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Next Syleham meeting
by John Woodard 05 May '04

05 May '04

I have booked Syleham Village Hall for a Sunday meeting on 30th May. As per usual kit welcome; installs, trouble shooting and general prodding of bits that do not work will be available. More details to follow and I will try and find time to update the wiki real soon. Cheers, BJ

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Warning: Spam Blockers
by MJ Ray 04 May '04

04 May '04

If you install a challenge-response spam block and do not exempt the ALUG lists, I will unsubscribe you. You need to exempt the list and the address that sends subscription pings. So, if you send an email telling the list admins they must reply for you to get a service that you chose to subscribe to, I will verify your address and then reply by removing you. The list admins have enough to do already, without that. Challenge-response spam blocks are broken and a pain in the back side. Look up "C-R considered harmful" for some of the reasons. -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only and possibly not of any group I know. http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ for creative copyleft computing

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Odd Kmail behaviour
by Wayne Stallwood 04 May '04

04 May '04

I am getting a funny behaviour in the fancy headers of kmail. If I look at any post from MJ Ray with fancy headers enabled I get the text (Very poor) appended to the end of the from address So I looked at the full headers, and I see Organization: Very poor Very funny, but it had me baffled for a bit

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Travel share to AFFSAC
by MJ Ray 04 May '04

04 May '04

Hi all, The AFFS Annual Conference takes place in Birmingham on Saturday 15 May. Once again, it should be a collection of talks on free software applications and practical promotion. Some details are online at http://www.affs.org.uk/affsac.html and so is the sign-up form (hint hint, only 10 quid membership fee required, which should also include a year of newsletters). Someone would like to travel share from mid-Essex. If you can do that, please email me and I will put you in touch. -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only and possibly not of any group I know. http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ for creative copyleft computing

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Re: [ALUG] Hello! LUG in Chelmsford...
by Steve Purkiss 04 May '04

04 May '04

:0) Thanks for cheering me up while I figure out VMWare! Steve On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 12:49, Chris Walker wrote: > On Mon 03 May, Steve Purkiss wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Firstly a big "Hello"! I joined up recently after conversations with > > MJR. I investigated the old Essex LUG but that seems to be dead and > > buried, so I was thinking of setting up a Chelmsford LUG (comedy name > > yet to be thought up) > > Has to be LUGE with TUX sliding through the snow on one :-) > > Sorry. I'll get my coat.

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Accented characters
by Syd Hancock 04 May '04

04 May '04

What is the easiest way to get accented characters, specifically French, in apps running under KDE? In Open Office I can access them from Insert->Special Character but it is a bit long-winded. No idea how to get them in things like Kmail. Is there an equivalent of ALT+NumericKeypad codes, for example? Thanks Syd

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Hello! LUG in Chelmsford...
by Steve Purkiss 04 May '04

04 May '04

Hi, Firstly a big "Hello"! I joined up recently after conversations with MJR. I investigate the old Essex LUG but that seems to be dead and buried, so I was thinking of setting up a Chelmsford LUG (comedy name yet to be thought up) as I live near there (Gt. Waltham, grew up in Ford End, country boy really;) and am buying there soon. I'm having a meeting on Thursday at D-Place in Chelmsford from 6pm for the A12 business networking club which I run on Ecademy - feel free to join the online discussions/come along to the meeting at: http://www.open4.org/joinA12club (it's free) One of the other members has just started up a local mag "Parklife" being delivered to 10,000 residents of the new, mainly commuter estates of Chelmsford. We're having a feature on the club next month and organising a charity event for the summer, so I posted to the Linux Solution Providers list asking about installfests, and now I'm here. So, pointers please to setting a LUG up, offers of advice or help for the summer event - prob more of a demonstration of different systems (have MDK10 on my Tosh M30-604 laptop working /nearly/ fully now which looks good and impresses people), any other advice welcome. Thinking about handing out CDs of things like Knoppix, OpenCD, SUSE Live, etc. Hope you are all enjoying the long weekend hehe ;) Steve Purkiss Open for Organisations supporting open source software www.open4.org

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file size limits?
by Syd Hancock 03 May '04

03 May '04

What is the maximum size of an individual file on an ext3 formatted drive? Syd

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Thursday evening meeting in Norwich next week
by Syd Hancock 03 May '04

03 May '04

(I'm going to re-write and re-send from scratch and see what happens). The next 'second thursday' evening meeting in Norwich will be next week on Thursday the 13th of May at the City Gate, Derham Road, from about 8pm. Full details are on the ALUG website. The Norwich meetings and venues pages will be updated very soon. Syd

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test
by Syd Hancock 03 May '04

03 May '04

apologies. splodgeness abounds.

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Meeting in Norwich on 2nd May - brief report
by Syd Hancock 03 May '04

03 May '04

Excellent turn-out - AFAIR 14 people turned up, some for the first time, some from the first meeting five years ago. Lovely weather so we sat in the garden and made lots of noise. Many books were given away (thanks Steve aka 'brodders'), loads of old but useful kit was given away or sold very cheaply (thanks Laurie). Everyone seemed to have a great time and when I left at about half six it was still going. Adam, Bear, BJ, Brett, brodders, Doug (who needs some help with samba, slackware and XP), Eli (pronounced 'Ellie') James and Kaz (sp?) Jonathan 'noodles', Kirsten, Laurie, Mark, Syd. I think that's everyone accounted for. Syd

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 03 May '04

03 May '04

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.alug.org.uk in the #alug channel. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server irc.alug.org.uk" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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Who is coming on sunday?
by Syd Hancock 02 May '04

02 May '04

(I sent this on friday and only just noticed that it was not posted so I'm sending it again even though it is almost redundant now). So who is planning to come to the 5-year bash today? Also there was talk a few weeks ago of contacting original members to see if they could come, did anyone do that? Syd

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URI for today's meeting in Norwich
by Syd Hancock 02 May '04

02 May '04

http://www.alug.org.uk/meetings/2004/05-02Sun.html Syd

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irc.alug.org.uk DNS mapping
by Brett Parker 30 Apr '04

30 Apr '04

It appears that someone has changed the DNS mapping for irc.alug.org.uk to point at alug.org.uk rather than an OFTC server... Anyone know who, or why? I wouldn't have noticed but I use that to connect to oftc usually ;) Cheers, -- Brett Parker

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RE : USb web camera
by Robert Frusher 29 Apr '04

29 Apr '04

With regards to the webcam.... I have a Labtec USB webcam that costs 20 quid from PC world etc. After a little googling I managed to download a driver for a Logitech webcam which is basically the same. I can get a stream from the camera now using gmplayer, and camorama. But apart from that it is pretty useless in Linux. I want a plugin for Gaim to play with MSN video messenging.... Rob

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Listing?
by John Seago 29 Apr '04

29 Apr '04

I looked here, http://lugww.counter.li.org/addgroup.cms to see if we, (ALUG) were listed, under the heading East of England, only Bedfordshire appears. Perhaps someone with the necessary authority should consider listing us? -- John Seago

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Fwd: Re: Join ALUG
by Syd Hancock 29 Apr '04

29 Apr '04

I've received the following email from "brodders" <brodders(a)mcmail.com> >> I'm trying to dispose of about 60 Computer Science books from the 80's to 90's. These are engineering related rather then C++ etc, so we're into the world of Systems Analysis, Z, complete systems engineering, databases, networking, all sorts. Pretty old stuff nowadays but much relevant if you're into doing things professionally. Can I give them away?? Well, libraries & the uni don't want them so it's skipping time. ALUG people can take their pick, if they want... << Please reply directly to brodders for more info. He is intending to be at the meeting on sunday afternoon at The City Gate. Syd

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Linux Audio Developers Conference
by MJ Ray 29 Apr '04

29 Apr '04

This conference starts today and is available online as audio+webcam+IRC if you can't travel to Karlsruhe in time. There's an interesting-looking session at 12 noon tomorrow (assuming those are CET times) about debugging ALSA and Bob Ham talks at 15h. Maybe see you on IRC, if freenode doesn't free its nodes. -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only and possibly not of any group I know. http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ for creative copyleft computing

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Nelson Court - location and parking
by Syd Hancock 27 Apr '04

27 Apr '04

I've been editing some alug meetings web pages which should be on the main site within the next day or two. I'd like to put some information about finding Nelson Court and what parking is nearby. There is map of the campus available as a PDF file but I haven't found it very helpful. Pleae can anyone who knows their way around UEA send me - or post here - some directions for finding Nelson Court and also what parking is nearby? Thanks Syd

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Dont forget: Five years of ALUG - this sunday 2nd May 2pm
by Syd Hancock 27 Apr '04

27 Apr '04

Brief reminder to all: ALUG will be five on the 2nd May 2004. To mark the occasion a 'special' sunday afternoon get-together will take place at 2pm that day at the 'City Gate', Dereham Road. Full address, photo, link to map etc here: http://www.norwichpubs.info/norwichpubs/pubpages/citygate.htm Full details etc appearing on an ALUG website near you very soon... Syd

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Newbie and upgrade of RH7.2
by Iain Downie 26 Apr '04

26 Apr '04

Hi Folks, I'm a newbie to ALUG, and relatively new to Linux too, so excuse me if this is a trivial question. I web develop for a research charity in Thetford, and have inherited a legacy linux server which handles all our online data collection (Java etc. connected to Oracle on Unix). However, we face a bit of a problem in that we run Oracle 9i Application Server on Red Hat 7.2. When some small things went wrong (or at least we could not explain), we approached Oracle for support, only to be told that they had stopped supporting this combination. As we have Oracle Support for other elements, we decided that it would be worth it upgrading the Red Hat to RH Enterprise Linux ES (small to medium servers). This way we will get two types of support. Question: How easy is it to upgrade (or migrate) to this new version? Will it involve wiping drive and starting afresh? Will we need to re-install 9iAS and all our web apps? Or is it really easy and I'm getting flustered over nothing? Hope someone can provide some opinions/feedback. Cheers Iain

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Kernel 2.6 rpm
by Nick Daniels 26 Apr '04

26 Apr '04

Hi I cannot download Kernel 2.6 as it is too big for my two hour cut off on my isp.(no resume). I have downloaded Kernel 2.6 RPM from Suse on a spare machine and everything seemed to work O.K. Yast autodetected my hardware and reconfigured it, every thing worked except the sound, although it reconised the soundcards I tried it was unable to configure them, it suggested the IRQ may be wrong. This is my first attempt to install a new kernel System Suse 9.0 pro 1.6 Ghz AMD Regards Nick Daniels

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 26 Apr '04

26 Apr '04

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.alug.org.uk in the #alug channel. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server irc.alug.org.uk" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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iptables & logs
by BenEBoy 24 Apr '04

24 Apr '04

Morning, I'm trying to track down an problem with my firewall (I'm trying to set up MASQ properly) and would like to log all traffic going through the firewall, whether it's dropped or not. Can someone tell me the appropriate command please? Secondly, I know it's simple, but I'll be damned if I can remember/find out how to do it. All the log entries from my firewall are going into /var/log/messages, but how can I set the 'puter up to put them in a file called /var/log/firewall? All the log entries start with 'FIREWALL'. cheers, BenE

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