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Nelson Court - location and parking
by Syd Hancock 27 Apr '04

27 Apr '04

I've been editing some alug meetings web pages which should be on the main site within the next day or two. I'd like to put some information about finding Nelson Court and what parking is nearby. There is map of the campus available as a PDF file but I haven't found it very helpful. Pleae can anyone who knows their way around UEA send me - or post here - some directions for finding Nelson Court and also what parking is nearby? Thanks Syd

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Dont forget: Five years of ALUG - this sunday 2nd May 2pm
by Syd Hancock 27 Apr '04

27 Apr '04

Brief reminder to all: ALUG will be five on the 2nd May 2004. To mark the occasion a 'special' sunday afternoon get-together will take place at 2pm that day at the 'City Gate', Dereham Road. Full address, photo, link to map etc here: http://www.norwichpubs.info/norwichpubs/pubpages/citygate.htm Full details etc appearing on an ALUG website near you very soon... Syd

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Newbie and upgrade of RH7.2
by Iain Downie 26 Apr '04

26 Apr '04

Hi Folks, I'm a newbie to ALUG, and relatively new to Linux too, so excuse me if this is a trivial question. I web develop for a research charity in Thetford, and have inherited a legacy linux server which handles all our online data collection (Java etc. connected to Oracle on Unix). However, we face a bit of a problem in that we run Oracle 9i Application Server on Red Hat 7.2. When some small things went wrong (or at least we could not explain), we approached Oracle for support, only to be told that they had stopped supporting this combination. As we have Oracle Support for other elements, we decided that it would be worth it upgrading the Red Hat to RH Enterprise Linux ES (small to medium servers). This way we will get two types of support. Question: How easy is it to upgrade (or migrate) to this new version? Will it involve wiping drive and starting afresh? Will we need to re-install 9iAS and all our web apps? Or is it really easy and I'm getting flustered over nothing? Hope someone can provide some opinions/feedback. Cheers Iain

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Kernel 2.6 rpm
by Nick Daniels 26 Apr '04

26 Apr '04

Hi I cannot download Kernel 2.6 as it is too big for my two hour cut off on my isp.(no resume). I have downloaded Kernel 2.6 RPM from Suse on a spare machine and everything seemed to work O.K. Yast autodetected my hardware and reconfigured it, every thing worked except the sound, although it reconised the soundcards I tried it was unable to configure them, it suggested the IRQ may be wrong. This is my first attempt to install a new kernel System Suse 9.0 pro 1.6 Ghz AMD Regards Nick Daniels

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 26 Apr '04

26 Apr '04

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.alug.org.uk in the #alug channel. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server irc.alug.org.uk" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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iptables & logs
by BenEBoy 24 Apr '04

24 Apr '04

Morning, I'm trying to track down an problem with my firewall (I'm trying to set up MASQ properly) and would like to log all traffic going through the firewall, whether it's dropped or not. Can someone tell me the appropriate command please? Secondly, I know it's simple, but I'll be damned if I can remember/find out how to do it. All the log entries from my firewall are going into /var/log/messages, but how can I set the 'puter up to put them in a file called /var/log/firewall? All the log entries start with 'FIREWALL'. cheers, BenE

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Re: Re: [ALUG] UEA (was: Another small hello...)
by syd＠toufol.com 24 Apr '04

24 Apr '04

> ATM, UEA is just one big, noisy building site! I don't what it'll be like at > the end of June.... Hmm, sounds interesting :-) Didn't know about that. What is being done to it? > What rooms do you normally use at UEA? Union House is fairly inaccessible ATM. No idea - don't know the place at all, sorry! Others do - where does ALUG usually meet? Syd

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Meetings page
by Kirsten Naylor 23 Apr '04

23 Apr '04

ALUG webmaster person/people: http://www.alug.org.uk/meetings/2004/ needs to be updated to reflect the current meeting plans. I assume Sunday 25th April has fallen by the wayside in favour of City Gate a week later. Also Sunday 27 June at UEA ought to be put in. /Kirsten

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[Alug Announce]Summaries: Meeting dates, EU Software Patents
by MJ Ray 23 Apr '04

23 Apr '04

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- ALUG: ---- 1. 5th Birthday Meeting at City Gate, Norwich, Sunday 2 May 2004 http://lists.alug.org.uk/main/2004-April/018432.html 2. Norwich UEA meeting, Sunday 27 June 2004 http://lists.alug.org.uk/main/2004-April/018481.html National: -------- 1. NotCon '04, Sunday 6th June 2004, Imperial College Union, London http://www.notcon04.com/ Proposals due by: Friday 14th May 2004 2. The EU Irish Presidency text rejects all amendments made by the European Parliament and pushes for direct patentability of computer programs, data structures and process descriptions. The Patent Department at Nokia is collecting signatures from top company executives for a "Call for Action" in favour of the Presidency text. http://www.ffii.org.uk/ http://swpat.ffii.org/ 3. Rally in Brussels on 14 April under the slogan "No Software Patents -- Power to the Parliament" http://demo.ffii.org/ was covered by some tv channels. -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only and possibly not of any group I know. Please http://remember.to/edit_messages on lists to be sure I read http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ gopher://g.towers.org.uk/ slef(a)jabber.at Creative copyleft computing services via http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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Hello
by Mark Nordhoff 23 Apr '04

23 Apr '04

HI all, iam new to LInux,having just installed Suse pro 9 on a dual boot with Win xp and i find it really good and much better than Windows and i just need more experience due to Bill Gates brainwashing!

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nVidia/Via AGP support not working
by Tristan Scott 23 Apr '04

23 Apr '04

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I have a via motherboard (on loan from work, mine's broke) and a nV ti 4400. AGP simple won't work. I have tried: Latest Gentoo stable drivers: (4496) Latest nVidia stable drivers (5336) These were supposed to fix some issues with via and agp. I have tried AGP: agpgart built in, nvidia drivers using mode 3 (try aggart then nvAgp) agpgart not built, nvidia drivers set to NvAGP mode 1 (nvagp only) or 3 (try agp, then nvidia) agpgart built as module, trying nvidia only (nope) then mode 3 again (loaded agpgart fine) The host bridge claims it's supported by agpgart and nvagp. now, debugging outputs: - -------lspci------- 00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8375 [KM266/KL266] Host Bridge 00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8633 [Apollo Pro266 AGP] 00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 80) 00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 80) 00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 80) 00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 82) 00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8235 ISA Bridge 00:11.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT8233/A/C/VT8235 PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06) 00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50) 00:11.6 Communication controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. Intel 537 [AC97 Modem] (rev 80) 00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev 74) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV25 [GeForce4 Ti 4400] (rev a2) - -------proc------- ~ cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/card Fast Writes: Supported SBA: Supported AGP Rates: 4x 2x 1x Registers: 0x1f000217:0x00000000 cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/host-bridge Host Bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8375 [KM266/KL266] Host Bridge Fast Writes: Not Supported SBA: Supported AGP Rates: 4x 2x 1x Registers: 0x1f000207:0x00000000 cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status Status: Disabled - -------XF86Config------- (clipped) Section "Device" ~ Identifier "ti" ~ Driver "nvidia" # Driver "nv" ~ #VideoRam 131072 # ---AGP--- # 0 = Off # 1 = NvAGP only # 2 = AGPGart only # 3 = Try AGPGart, then NvAGP - default Option "NvAGP" "1" # use AGPGart if poss. then use agpgart, if poss. Option "NoDDC" "false" Option "DPMS" Option "RenderAccel" "true" Option "AGPMode" "4" #Option "AGPFastWrite" "true" Option "EnableDepthMoves" "true" Option "EnablePageFlip" "true" Option "HWCursor" "true" Option "CursorShadow" "true" Option "Xinerama" "on" Option "TwinView" Option "SecondMonitorHorizSync" "30-95" Option "SecondMonitorVertRefresh" "60-100" Option "MetaModes" "1280x1024,1280x1024; 1024x768,1024x768; NULL,1280x1024; NULL,800x600" Option "TwinViewOrientation" "LeftOf" Option "ConnectedMonitor" "CRT, CRT" ~ # Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate EndSection - -------lsmod------- Module Size Used by nvidia 2068168 12 via_agp 5184 1 agpgart 26408 1 via_agp - -------dmesg------- (agpgart as module) Linux agpgart interface v0.100 (c) Dave Jones agpgart: Detected VIA PM266/KM266 chipset agpgart: Maximum main memory to use for agp memory: 690M agpgart: AGP aperture is 256M @ 0xe0000000 eth0: Setting full-duplex based on MII #1 link partner capability of 45e1. smbfs: Unrecognized mount option umask smbfs: Unrecognized mount option umask smbfs: Unrecognized mount option umask smbfs: Unrecognized mount option umask smbfs: Unrecognized mount option umask atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0x7a on isa0060/serio0). atkbd.c: This is an XFree86 bug. It shouldn't access hardware directly. atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0x7a on isa0060/serio0). atkbd.c: This is an XFree86 bug. It shouldn't access hardware directly. nvidia: no version magic, tainting kernel. nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel. 0: nvidia: loading NVIDIA Linux x86 NVIDIA Kernel Module 1.0-5336 Wed Jan 14 18:29:26 PST 2004 0: NVRM: not using NVAGP, AGPGART is loaded!! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAgl5LZZ4UfnGVIG0RAu2kAJ4zxvZXBMt5obo4zVI1WDlwxFZERACgh8iy nToYzVuJ16UsGfywZNUcsRg= =Ykvj -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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USB webcams
by Wayne Stallwood 23 Apr '04

23 Apr '04

Me and Charles Garcia-Tobin (also on this list) were wasting a Sunday afternoon mucking about with Gnome Meeting last weekend. It is mostly working quite well as far as Audio and Text go, but we now need to both get affordable USB webcams to complete the picture. Any other ALUG'ers out there running USB webcams on Linux ?, which ones have good compatability, we are not over concerned with performance (this is for Gnome Meeting after all) but something that is nice and easy to get working and currently available would be good. I did have a really nice 3Com Office Connect camera. But when I tried it a year ago it was no fun getting it to play with Linux (and anyway it seems to have gone missing now)

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LVM
by Craig 23 Apr '04

23 Apr '04

Anyone here using LVM? I'm pondering to set one up one day but then again after reading some horror stories of data disappearing randomly etc begun to put me off. Just wondering what everyone's thoughts on this and what are you using it for right now? C

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Archive CDs
by MJ Ray 23 Apr '04

23 Apr '04

Debian 2.0 and 2.1 CDs (one binary and one source) available free to good home. Old, so collector interest only, I guess. Contact me today, or they get recycled. -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only and possibly not of any group I know. http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ gopher://g.towers.org.uk/ slef(a)jabber.at

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ALUG UEA meeting - sunday 27th June 2pm
by Syd Hancock 23 Apr '04

23 Apr '04

Nelson Court at UEA has been booked for the afternoon of sunday 27th June. Many thanks to Eli for getting on the case extra fast. This is a preliminary announcement - full details and reminders etc later. Eli - have you introduced yourself to the group yet? Syd

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UEA meeting - sunday 27th June 2pm
by Syd Hancock 22 Apr '04

22 Apr '04

Nelson Court at UEA has been booked for the afternoon of sunday 27th June. Many thanks to Eli for getting on the case extra fast. This is a preliminary announcement - full details and reminders etc later. Eli - have you introduced yourself to the group yet? Syd

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Difficulty using procmail
by Graham Trott 22 Apr '04

22 Apr '04

I'm trying to filter out the tidal wave of spam, now reaching 100 a day on one mailbox, by using bogofilter as part of a procmail filter. My mailserver is postfix, set to invoke procmail by having main.cf contain the line mailbox_command /usr/bin/procmail I set up /etc/procmailrc to contain the following: -------------------------------------------------------------------- # Pass all mail through bogofilter :0fw | bogofilter -u -e -p # If bogofilter failed, return the mail to the queue. # The MTA will retry to deliver it later. :0e { EXITCODE=75 HOST } # File the mail to "spam-bogofilter" if it's spam. :0: * ^X-Bogosity: Yes, tests=bogofilter spam-bogofilter -------------------------------------------------------------------- which according to the bogofilter manual should send all spam to "spam-bogofilter". But it doesn't. The messages get delivered to the user's mailbox without spam-bogofilter ever getting written. The messages themselves contain the X-Bogosity headers and are correctly classified as being spam or not, so it appears either the last rule isn't being reached or isn't operating correctly. I find the procmail syntax pretty impenetrable; can anyone help deduce what's going wrong? -- GT

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Re: Re: [ALUG] Re: Re: [ALUG] UEA (was: Another small hello...)
by syd＠toufol.com 22 Apr '04

22 Apr '04

Kirsten Naylor <wildduck(a)wildduck.org.uk> wrote on 22.04.2004, 12:28:21: > On Thu, 2004-04-22 at 07:44, Syd Hancock wrote: > > to book Nelson Court for the > > afternoon of sunday 28th June. > > 28th of June is a Monday. Drat - so it is! How did that happen? Oh well, sunday 27th June... Syd

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Hi there a small hello from a new member....
by Robert Frusher 22 Apr '04

22 Apr '04

Hi there, My name is Robert Frusher and have joined the mailing list, I live in King's Lynn Norfolk, presently driving buses for a living... I'm probably not quite a newbie of Linux as I have been using it on and off for about five years. Have had many problems and solved some of them. I was pointed to the group and mailing list by Nick, from Home and Business computing in Lynn. I use both Windows XP and Slackware Linux, the latter more often than not because of what I use my computer for - Web, Email, Software Development and Databases... (I have a degree in computer software engineering I like to keep up with it) Expect some questions, and if I see anything that I may be able to help with I will give it a shot. Robert Frusher

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IEEEE 1394
by Vasko Tomanov 22 Apr '04

22 Apr '04

I have a problem with FireWire Disk, I can't mount it ? or I don't know how to do this ? The FireWire card and RH 9.0 recognize it well, but I can't mount the hard disk attached to the firewire card some suggestions ? HowTo ? Cheers Vasko

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Norwich sunday meetings - another suggestion
by Syd Hancock 21 Apr '04

21 Apr '04

A couple of people have said that they can book a room at UEA, which has always been a popular choice of venue. Since the upcoming 'anniversary' get-together at the start of May has already been discussed and arranged, and since it seems best to keep that as more of a social than a technical event, I suggest that we have another sunday meet in Norwich, at UEA, to bring kit along etc, farly soon. I propose the last w/e in June, i.e sunday 28th June. Does this clash with any other planned events, local or national? As always, comments welcome especially anyone who can say that they intend to be there. Syd

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Gentoo 2004.0 LiveCD install
by Glen Tyler 21 Apr '04

21 Apr '04

I was so impressed with Gentoo 1.4 that I decided to upgrade and bought the 2CD set of 2004.0, but despite what it says in the install guide such as "if you don't have a working network connection, you have to install a portage snapshot provided by one of or liveCDs" -I did :-) As I want to start at Stage1 I need to run the bootstrap script, but I get to that point the install fails as emerge tries to download another version of portage from the Gentoo Mirrors. I've tried the Gentoo forums, but there does not seem to be much about this, other than 'use a network connection' or 'use Stage3'. As the documentation says that it can be done (although its not the default method) then I assume that they know what they're saying. Is there a way I can stop emerge doing this, or at least show it where I've put the sources? Thanks again Glen

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Re: [ALUG] Just installed Debian
by Steve Engledow 21 Apr '04

21 Apr '04

> when I issue # dpkg-reconfigure noflushd I get this > ;Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server > Xlib: No protocol specified > > dpkg-reconfigure: cannot connect to X server :0.0 Just means your X session isn't allowing requests from any user other than the one that started the session. Very sensible really. If you do an 'xhost +' before su-ing you'll be ok. Cheers, Steve P.S. MJR, thanks for being patient. Think I've tamed the beast that is yahoo mail now. Got to better than Outlook though ;)

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Re: [ALUG] Just installed Debian
by Steve Engledow 21 Apr '04

21 Apr '04

> Then you can try running the reconfigure again. > But now when I issue # dpkg-reconfigure noflushd I get this > ;Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server > Xlib: No protocol specified > > dpkg-reconfigure: cannot connect to X server :0.0 > I've also seen this kind of thing when trying to run X programs from a console in which I've su'ed to root. Any ideas what might be going on here? Just means your X session isn't allowing requests from any user other than the one that started the session. Very sensible really. If you do an 'xhost +' before su-ing you'll be ok. Cheers, Steve P.S. Third time of sending due to Yahoo's irritating love of HTML mail. Maybe it'll even work this time ;)

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Just installed Debian
by Richard Lewis 20 Apr '04

20 Apr '04

Dear ALUG, I've recently installed Debian "testing" on my laptop over the Internet. Its all very shinny and nice (with kernel 2.6, KDE 3.1.5 etc.) and I've almost got everything I want working. There are one or two things that I hope someone might be able to help with though: 1) When the system boots it attempts to connect to the network through eth0. This is fine when I'm on campus and plugged into the network, but when I'm at home it adds about a minute onto the bootup time and achieves nothing (I've not network at home). Is there a way of making this optional at bootup? 2) One of the packages didn't configure properly at installation time: noflushd. I tried # dpkg-reconfigure noflushd and got this: debconf: unable to initialize frontend: Kde debconf: (Can't locate Qt.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.3 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.3 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/FrontEnd/Kde/Wizard.pm line 7.) debconf: falling back to frontend: Dialog /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: noflushd is broken or not fully installed Any ideas what might be wrong? Or if it matters? (I'm not even sure what its for; $ apt-cache search noflushd gives: "allow idle hard disks to spin down"). 3) The last distro I was using was MDK9.2. My new Debian system seems to be quite short of fonts in comparison; particularly ones that work well as KDE fonts (for menus, buttons etc.). Where do linux fonts come from and how do they work? Are there any sources of free fonts? Thanks in advance, Richard

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