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free wi-fi access this week
by Syd Hancock 29 Jan '04

29 Jan '04

BT is having a promotion this week, offering free wi-fi access at many hot spots. There are a 14 listed in Norwich alone, including the railway station (but not the library). Details and sign-up here: http://www.wirelessbroadbandweek.com/ Syd

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Why are do so many WebMail apps. use IMAP?
by Chris Green 29 Jan '04

29 Jan '04

I've been pottering about some ideas I have for making my mail systems work better together and one of the areas I've been looking at is WebMail applications. Why is it that so many of them use IMAP as the source of the mail they allow you to access? It seems pointless as the whole idea of IMAP is to provide remote access to your E-Mail. If you have a mail client which can read mail using IMAP then you don't need WebMail at all do you? Apart from anything else WebMail tends to be slower and is an unfamiliar interface. Some E-Mail clients even handle POP3 mailboxes 'remotely' quite successfully. (I think it's either xfmail or xcmail that does this) It would make much more sense if WebMail applications allowed you to access mailboxes that *aren't* normally readable remotely. I suppose that a WebMail application means it's easier to access your mail from somewhere that doesn't have your own MUA but that's about all it does. What I'd find really useful is a WebMail application that will let me read a tree of mbox mailboxes on a remote server. -- Chris Green (chris(a)areti.co.uk)

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cheap quality wi-fi cards on ebay
by Syd Hancock 29 Jan '04

29 Jan '04

Apologies to anyone who thinks this not appropriate. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3455233849&category=31… These are Cisco Aironet 340 cards, very good reputation. Well supported in linux: http://www.goonda.org/wireless/aironet/ (I have no connection with the seller BTW) Syd

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Bitmap Terminals
by Tarquin Mills 27 Jan '04

27 Jan '04

Linux can use dumb terminals and X terminals, but can it use any types of bitmap terminal, say with SVGALib producing the output? Are the any sources for cheap, small foot print ARM based single board computers? -- Tarquin Mills bmud (BitMap UNIX Display) Terminal

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Open source SQL decision
by Vasko Tomanov 27 Jan '04

27 Jan '04

I need to make a decision what SQL server to use the requirements are: 1. to have stored procedure 2. to be Open Source 3. To run on Linux and Windows Some suggestions ? Cheers Vasko

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Norwich sunday meeting report (brief)
by Syd Hancock 27 Jan '04

27 Jan '04

Four people turned up. We met. We chatted. We went home. See, I said it was a brief report :-) Brett Parker, Jonathan 'Noodles' McDowell, Ashley Howe and myself, Syd. Not sure why it was such a low turnout - maybe the time of year, maybe because there was no specific theme to attract people, maybe because people in the Norwich area are getting the linux socialising that they want from the evening meetings. And several of the regulars could not attend for various reasons otherwise it would have been quite a reasonable turn-out. We had a good old chat about many things, including MythTV, building a PVR, mini-itx and Shuttle boxes, and I at least found it interesting and informative. We also discussed possible venues for the thursday evening meetings and I will post separately about that. I have provisionally booked the room for three months' time, the last sunday in April (25th). Syd

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Re: [ALUG] Webmail clinet that supports local maildir mailboxes
by Matt Parker 27 Jan '04

27 Jan '04

On Mon, 2004-01-26 at 08:40, Chris Green wrote: > On Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 03:59:10PM +0000, Matt Parker wrote: > > On Fri, 2004-01-23 at 13:40, Chris Green wrote: > > > I'm looking for a webmail client that supports reading from a > > > hierarchy of maildir mailboxes on the server where it's installed. > > > > > > I normally read my mail by connecting to the server (using ssh) and > > > running mutt, this will remain my normal way of reading mail but > > > occasionally it's useful to be able to read it using webmail and I'd > > > like to do it using the same maildir hierarchy that I see (and > > > maintain) using mutt. > > > > > > I have found a few possibilities by searching but would appreciate > > > some feedback on whether they are any good, I've found:- > > > > > > NeoMail (appears not to be currently developed) > > > NwebMail > > > oMail-webmail > > > open-Webmail (seems the most likely candidate at the moment) > > > > > > > Personally I use IlohaMail (http://ilohamail.org/) and find it > > excellent. > > > ... but it doesn't work with a local mail spool, only POP3 and IMAP as > far as I can see. So install it on top of qpopper - http://www.eudora.com/qpopper/ - which does read your mail spool. You don't have to open up the POP3 port to your firewall if you're going to connect through localhost from the web mail. Matt -- http://www.mpcontracting.co.uk Experts in Java development and website design

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satire is still dead
by Syd Hancock 26 Jan '04

26 Jan '04

Bill Gates to get a knighthood. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3428673.stm For contributions to British enterprise and poverty relief worldwide. What bollocks. Syd

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Webmail clinet that supports local maildir mailboxes
by Chris Green 26 Jan '04

26 Jan '04

I'm looking for a webmail client that supports reading from a hierarchy of maildir mailboxes on the server where it's installed. I normally read my mail by connecting to the server (using ssh) and running mutt, this will remain my normal way of reading mail but occasionally it's useful to be able to read it using webmail and I'd like to do it using the same maildir hierarchy that I see (and maintain) using mutt. I have found a few possibilities by searching but would appreciate some feedback on whether they are any good, I've found:- NeoMail (appears not to be currently developed) NwebMail oMail-webmail open-Webmail (seems the most likely candidate at the moment) Courier's sqwebmail is no good as it uses courier's silly non-directory based maildirs. Since my maildirs are created by procmail in what I regard as the sensible way sqwebmail won't read them. While I'm about it a good local GUI mail client that reads ordinary Unix mail spools as opposed to POP3 and/or IMAP would be useful too. -- Chris Green (chris(a)areti.co.uk)

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RE: [ALUG] satire is still dead
by Richard Lewis 26 Jan '04

26 Jan '04

>Bill Gates to get a knighthood. > >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3428673.stm > >For contributions to British enterprise and poverty relief >worldwide. > >What bollocks. > >Syd The article says he will not be 'Sir William' but will be allowed to use KBE after his name. Wouldn't it ironic if it was 'K/D/E'?! Or appropriate if it was KNOB... Richard

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 26 Jan '04

26 Jan '04

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.alug.org.uk in the #alug channel. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server irc.alug.org.uk" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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Re: Sound (ALSA)
by MJ Ray 25 Jan '04

25 Jan '04

On 2004-01-22 16:09:20 +0000 Kevin Clarke <kg.clarke(a)virgin.net> wrote: > Kernel is 2.4.24 Sound is onboard i810 ? ..... What distribution and version? Mandrake 9.1? Redhat 9.0? Something else? What errors are you getting? If no errors, what do you try that doesn't work? i810 should be fairly straight-forward for ALSA by now (if not perfect), so hopefully this is a simple problem. Please keep ALUG on the CC when you reply (use reply to all/group reply). -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only and possibly not of any group I know. Please http://remember.to/edit_messages on lists to be sure I read http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ gopher://g.towers.org.uk/ slef(a)jabber.at Creative copyleft computing services via http://www.ttllp.co.uk/

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ALSA v. the rest
by Syd Hancock 25 Jan '04

25 Jan '04

The recent thread about ALSA prompts me to ask something that I've wondered for some time. What are the differences and relative merits (or otherwise) of ALSA and other ways of producing sound in linux? Is that even an accurate description of ALSA etc? Syd

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FOSS for Libraries HOWTO
by MJ Ray 25 Jan '04

25 Jan '04

You may have read about Bob Kerr's work in getting CDs of Free and Open Source Software (FOSS) into libraries. Because he's moving on to other things, he has allowed me to take over maintenance of his guide and turn it into a HOWTO. I have made a small web page for this and put the latest copy (with source code) at http://www.affs.org.uk/~mjr/libraries/ ALUG is one of the first groups that I have mentioned this to. Please be gentle. Is it just me, or do you have to register to even look at the OO.org issue tracker now? I keep getting bounced to the login screen each session. I hate public bug trackers that do that. -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only and possibly not of any group I know. Please http://remember.to/edit_messages on lists to be sure I read http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ gopher://g.towers.org.uk/ slef(a)jabber.at Creative copyleft computing services via http://www.ttllp.co.uk/

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Bash scripting
by Graham Trott 24 Jan '04

24 Jan '04

I have a requirement to process a folder full of files (converting .avi to .mp2 and .m1v, as it happens, en route to DVD authoring). To convert a single file I use the command line lav2wav +p foo.avi | mp2enc -V -o foo.mp2 I find the whole area of regular expressions etc confusing; is there a kind expert who could show how to get the above to work for all the files in a folder, such as for name in *.avi do (How would I do the above with each file?) done In particular, how do I match just the filename and leave off the extension? -- GT

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RE: [ALUG] I'm sure I've asked this before
by Ricky Bruce 24 Jan '04

24 Jan '04

im sure i remember alien as being very helpful when trying to deal with packages from other distros, but its been a while since i used it, check google. >From: beneboy <mail(a)psychoferret.freeserve.co.uk> >To: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk >Subject: [ALUG] I'm sure I've asked this before >Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 23:19:20 +0000 > > >If so, then apologies... > >Does anyone know of an easy way to extract the files from a .deb or .rpm? I >want to play around with winex, but the version which gets around copy >protection is only available as a debian or rpm package, and since I'm >using >LFS that isn't much use ;) From the depths of my memory I seem to recall a >program called rpm2gz but google only throws up one result for that can't >be >it... > >anyone? please? > >BenE > >_______________________________________________ >main(a)lists.alug.org.uk >http://www.alug.org.uk/ >http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main >Unsubscribe? See message headers or the web site above! _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool new emoticons http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/myemo

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Sunday's meeting attendance
by Syd Hancock 24 Jan '04

24 Jan '04

Who is intending to be at the meeting in Norwich on sunday? BTW it is possible that I will not be able to attend and I will not know this until saturday morning. Many apologies if this is the case and I certainly hope to be there. Is there a volunteer to collect in and pay the fifteen pounds room hire charge? Thanks Syd

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I'm sure I've asked this before
by beneboy 24 Jan '04

24 Jan '04

If so, then apologies... Does anyone know of an easy way to extract the files from a .deb or .rpm? I want to play around with winex, but the version which gets around copy protection is only available as a debian or rpm package, and since I'm using LFS that isn't much use ;) From the depths of my memory I seem to recall a program called rpm2gz but google only throws up one result for that can't be it... anyone? please? BenE

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Norwich meeting on Sun.
by Jenny Hopkins 23 Jan '04

23 Jan '04

> On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 06:42, Syd Hancock wrote: > > Who is intending to be at the meeting in Norwich on sunday? I can't make this one, I'm afraid - I have a karate grading from noon onwards on that day. Jen

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Re: Sound (ALSA)
by MJ Ray 22 Jan '04

22 Jan '04

On 2004-01-22 13:54:03 +0000 Kevin Clarke <kg.clarke(a)virgin.net> wrote: > I am having no luck using ALSA and wondered if anyone could help? > Please let me know what you need to know and I will Email it to > you..... Distribution and version: Kernel version: (command "uname -a" should tell you if you don't know) Sound card model/type: Any error messages: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html may suggest other things that might be useful. Sent to ALUG and Kevin, as requested. -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only and possibly not of any group I know. Please http://remember.to/edit_messages on lists to be sure I read http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ gopher://g.towers.org.uk/ slef(a)jabber.at Creative copyleft computing services via http://www.ttllp.co.uk/

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Wanted: short talks, posters and demos on web software
by MJ Ray 22 Jan '04

22 Jan '04

As discussed at the last meeting, next month's ALUG meeting in King's Lynn will be on Wed 18 Feb and have the theme: "How The Web Works on GNU/Linux" It will be an introduction to using and creating web sites with GNU/Linux. If you can talk about something related to this for 5-20 minutes, prepare an A2 display or bring a demonstration system, please email me directly. We have some speakers, but I think it's still all quite flexible. You don't need to be a guru, just be willing to share your experiences. Plenty of help is available. Also, if you know that you want to come to the meeting (or help organise it!), please email me. Announcements of this meeting will appear in the town's libraries and computer shops this week. It will also be announced to web sites, mailing lists and newsgroups as normal. -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only and possibly not of any group I know. Please http://remember.to/edit_messages on lists to be sure I read http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ gopher://g.towers.org.uk/ slef(a)jabber.at Creative copyleft computing services via http://www.ttllp.co.uk/

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Sound (ALSA)
by David Templer 22 Jan '04

22 Jan '04

Hi , I am having no luck using ALSA and wondered if anyone could help? Please let me know what you need to know and I will Email it to you..... K.Clarke Arch 0.6 KDE 3.1 Linux user Please CC any replies to me thank you you :-)

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RE: [ALUG] favourite URLs
by Richard Lewis 22 Jan '04

22 Jan '04

>The bookmarks.html file is valid html so at the very least you can >display the bookmarks in Konqueror as a web page. >-- >Chris Green (chris(a)areti.co.uk) >Konqueror keeps its bookmarks in ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/bookmarks.xml. > >The XML element for a bookmark is like this: > ><bookmark icon="/path/to/icon.png" href="http://www.coolsite.net/" > > <title>Cool Site</title> ></bookmark> So you could use XSL to transform the Netscape HTML to Konqueror XML. Let me know if you need to do this and want some help! Cheers, Richard

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Announce digest, Vol 3 #2 - 1 msg
by announce-request＠lists.alug.org.uk 22 Jan '04

22 Jan '04

Send Announce mailing list submissions to announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to announce-request(a)lists.alug.org.uk You can reach the person managing the list at announce-admin(a)lists.alug.org.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Announce digest..." --------------.--------------------------------------------.------------ alug-announce | Newsletter of the Anglian Linux User Group | Weekly(ish) --------------'--------------------------------------------'------------ ** Please send articles for this letter to announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk ** *** Please send replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk, not announce... *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Today's Topics: 1. ALUG meeting in Norwich on sunday (Syd Hancock) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: Syd Hancock <syd(a)toufol.com> To: ALUG <main(a)lists.alug.org.uk> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 07:19:30 +0100 Cc: ALUG Announce <announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk> Subject: [Alug Announce]ALUG meeting in Norwich on sunday ALUG SUNDAY MEETING Next meeting in Norwich this coming weekend on sunday 25th=20 January. 2pm onwards in the Nelson Room at The Billy Blue Light=20 pub, Hall Road, Norwich.=20 The Billy is at the city end of Hall road and is not far from the=20 bus station, just off the inner ring road.=20 If coming north up the A140, Hall road is the first right just after=20 the first traffic lights off the A47. Keep going right to the end=20 as Hall Road is long. Detailed info including directions and a streetmap are on the=20 website here:=20 http://www.alug.org.uk/venues/bbl.html There is no specific topic or talk planned. Bring kit as this is a=20 general ALUG meet for installation, configuration and=20 sunday-afternoon-in-a-pub socialising :-) Bring extension leads etc if power is required as I don't yet know=20 what sockets etc are available. Room hire is =A315 so please bring a=20 bit of spare change towards the costs.=20 OTHER PLANNED MEETINGS Next Norwich sunday meeting is currently planned for the end of=20 April 2004. Current plans are to hold a full ALUG sunday meeting=20 every three months. Norwich monthly meetings continue on the second thursday of the=20 month and the current venue is the Forum coffee bar, 8pm. Next date=20 is 12th February. NOTE The webpages for meetings around the region have been extensively=20 reworked recently - many thanks, Mark.=20 Regards Syd --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Announce mailing list Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce End of Announce Digest

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RE: [ALUG] favourite URLs
by Richard Lewis 21 Jan '04

21 Jan '04

>Can I somehow transfer all the favourite bookmarks I've set up in Netscape >7.1 and copy them all to a location so that they will appear ready to go in >Konqueror? I was thinking there may be a folder in Koquerer where I just need >to copy these URLs. I've tried finding them in Netscape without success, and >I also don't know where to place them in Konqueror to make them work. Konqueror keeps its bookmarks in ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/bookmarks.xml. The XML element for a bookmark is like this: <bookmark icon="/path/to/icon.png" href="http://www.coolsite.net/" > <title>Cool Site</title> </bookmark> It also has a <folder> element for defining folders in the favourites menu. That might be helpful?? Cheers, Richard

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