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Re: Sound (ALSA)
by MJ Ray 22 Jan '04

22 Jan '04

On 2004-01-22 13:54:03 +0000 Kevin Clarke <kg.clarke(a)virgin.net> wrote: > I am having no luck using ALSA and wondered if anyone could help? > Please let me know what you need to know and I will Email it to > you..... Distribution and version: Kernel version: (command "uname -a" should tell you if you don't know) Sound card model/type: Any error messages: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html may suggest other things that might be useful. Sent to ALUG and Kevin, as requested. -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only and possibly not of any group I know. Please http://remember.to/edit_messages on lists to be sure I read http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ gopher://g.towers.org.uk/ slef(a)jabber.at Creative copyleft computing services via http://www.ttllp.co.uk/

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Wanted: short talks, posters and demos on web software
by MJ Ray 22 Jan '04

22 Jan '04

As discussed at the last meeting, next month's ALUG meeting in King's Lynn will be on Wed 18 Feb and have the theme: "How The Web Works on GNU/Linux" It will be an introduction to using and creating web sites with GNU/Linux. If you can talk about something related to this for 5-20 minutes, prepare an A2 display or bring a demonstration system, please email me directly. We have some speakers, but I think it's still all quite flexible. You don't need to be a guru, just be willing to share your experiences. Plenty of help is available. Also, if you know that you want to come to the meeting (or help organise it!), please email me. Announcements of this meeting will appear in the town's libraries and computer shops this week. It will also be announced to web sites, mailing lists and newsgroups as normal. -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only and possibly not of any group I know. Please http://remember.to/edit_messages on lists to be sure I read http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ gopher://g.towers.org.uk/ slef(a)jabber.at Creative copyleft computing services via http://www.ttllp.co.uk/

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Sound (ALSA)
by David Templer 22 Jan '04

22 Jan '04

Hi , I am having no luck using ALSA and wondered if anyone could help? Please let me know what you need to know and I will Email it to you..... K.Clarke Arch 0.6 KDE 3.1 Linux user Please CC any replies to me thank you you :-)

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RE: [ALUG] favourite URLs
by Richard Lewis 22 Jan '04

22 Jan '04

>The bookmarks.html file is valid html so at the very least you can >display the bookmarks in Konqueror as a web page. >-- >Chris Green (chris(a)areti.co.uk) >Konqueror keeps its bookmarks in ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/bookmarks.xml. > >The XML element for a bookmark is like this: > ><bookmark icon="/path/to/icon.png" href="http://www.coolsite.net/" > > <title>Cool Site</title> ></bookmark> So you could use XSL to transform the Netscape HTML to Konqueror XML. Let me know if you need to do this and want some help! Cheers, Richard

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Announce digest, Vol 3 #2 - 1 msg
by announce-request＠lists.alug.org.uk 22 Jan '04

22 Jan '04

Send Announce mailing list submissions to announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to announce-request(a)lists.alug.org.uk You can reach the person managing the list at announce-admin(a)lists.alug.org.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Announce digest..." --------------.--------------------------------------------.------------ alug-announce | Newsletter of the Anglian Linux User Group | Weekly(ish) --------------'--------------------------------------------'------------ ** Please send articles for this letter to announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk ** *** Please send replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk, not announce... *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Today's Topics: 1. ALUG meeting in Norwich on sunday (Syd Hancock) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: Syd Hancock <syd(a)toufol.com> To: ALUG <main(a)lists.alug.org.uk> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 07:19:30 +0100 Cc: ALUG Announce <announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk> Subject: [Alug Announce]ALUG meeting in Norwich on sunday ALUG SUNDAY MEETING Next meeting in Norwich this coming weekend on sunday 25th=20 January. 2pm onwards in the Nelson Room at The Billy Blue Light=20 pub, Hall Road, Norwich.=20 The Billy is at the city end of Hall road and is not far from the=20 bus station, just off the inner ring road.=20 If coming north up the A140, Hall road is the first right just after=20 the first traffic lights off the A47. Keep going right to the end=20 as Hall Road is long. Detailed info including directions and a streetmap are on the=20 website here:=20 http://www.alug.org.uk/venues/bbl.html There is no specific topic or talk planned. Bring kit as this is a=20 general ALUG meet for installation, configuration and=20 sunday-afternoon-in-a-pub socialising :-) Bring extension leads etc if power is required as I don't yet know=20 what sockets etc are available. Room hire is =A315 so please bring a=20 bit of spare change towards the costs.=20 OTHER PLANNED MEETINGS Next Norwich sunday meeting is currently planned for the end of=20 April 2004. Current plans are to hold a full ALUG sunday meeting=20 every three months. Norwich monthly meetings continue on the second thursday of the=20 month and the current venue is the Forum coffee bar, 8pm. Next date=20 is 12th February. NOTE The webpages for meetings around the region have been extensively=20 reworked recently - many thanks, Mark.=20 Regards Syd --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Announce mailing list Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce End of Announce Digest

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RE: [ALUG] favourite URLs
by Richard Lewis 21 Jan '04

21 Jan '04

>Can I somehow transfer all the favourite bookmarks I've set up in Netscape >7.1 and copy them all to a location so that they will appear ready to go in >Konqueror? I was thinking there may be a folder in Koquerer where I just need >to copy these URLs. I've tried finding them in Netscape without success, and >I also don't know where to place them in Konqueror to make them work. Konqueror keeps its bookmarks in ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/bookmarks.xml. The XML element for a bookmark is like this: <bookmark icon="/path/to/icon.png" href="http://www.coolsite.net/" > <title>Cool Site</title> </bookmark> It also has a <folder> element for defining folders in the favourites menu. That might be helpful?? Cheers, Richard

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favourite URLs
by Bryce Martin 21 Jan '04

21 Jan '04

Can I somehow transfer all the favourite bookmarks I've set up in Netscape 7.1 and copy them all to a location so that they will appear ready to go in Konqueror? I was thinking there may be a folder in Koquerer where I just need to copy these URLs. I've tried finding them in Netscape without success, and I also don't know where to place them in Konqueror to make them work. -- Bye, Bryce.

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Free to a good home
by Wayne Stallwood 21 Jan '04

21 Jan '04

I am starting to have a clearout of some old junk. I think I have offered this to the group before, but this really is the last time before it goes in the skip. HP Deskjet 640c Old now but works fine under Linux using either the Parallel or USB interface, comes with a USB lead, but sorry I don't have a spare Parallel port one. No idea how much ink is in the cartridges, and a vague suspicion that the replacements will cost more than the printer is worth. But I just powered it up and it works fine. If anybody in the Bury St Edmunds area wants to come and take it off my hands I'll even make them a cup of tea.

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3d nvidia graphics support
by Bryce Martin 19 Jan '04

19 Jan '04

I'm using SuSE 9 and my PC has an nVidia MX400 graphics card. My system doesn't have 3d graphics hardware support. This is because SuSE has stopped shipping with this feature, but the manual says you can still download this feature. But I've been to the nvidia site and can't find a driver that will do the job. Does anyone know what to do to get 3d graphics support for SuSE 9? -- Bye, Bryce.

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 19 Jan '04

19 Jan '04

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.alug.org.uk in the #alug channel. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server irc.alug.org.uk" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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Re: [ALUG] Re: Finesko & Firkin Pub
by MJ Ray 19 Jan '04

19 Jan '04

On 2004-01-18 14:51:44 +0000 Chris Walker <linux(a)wymondham.demon.co.uk> wrote: > Take a look at http://www.norwichpubs.info/norwichpubs/centpubf.htm > for info Does anyone have a way to contact the owner of that site without using a BraveNet address harvester? -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only and possibly not of any group I know. Please http://remember.to/edit_messages on lists to be sure I read http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ gopher://g.towers.org.uk/ slef(a)jabber.at Creative copyleft computing services via http://www.ttllp.co.uk/

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ALUG meeting in Norwich on sunday
by Syd Hancock 19 Jan '04

19 Jan '04

ALUG SUNDAY MEETING Next meeting in Norwich this coming weekend on sunday 25th January. 2pm onwards in the Nelson Room at The Billy Blue Light pub, Hall Road, Norwich. The Billy is at the city end of Hall road and is not far from the bus station, just off the inner ring road. If coming north up the A140, Hall road is the first right just after the first traffic lights off the A47. Keep going right to the end as Hall Road is long. Detailed info including directions and a streetmap are on the website here: http://www.alug.org.uk/venues/bbl.html There is no specific topic or talk planned. Bring kit as this is a general ALUG meet for installation, configuration and sunday-afternoon-in-a-pub socialising :-) Bring extension leads etc if power is required as I don't yet know what sockets etc are available. Room hire is £15 so please bring a bit of spare change towards the costs. OTHER PLANNED MEETINGS Next Norwich sunday meeting is currently planned for the end of April 2004. Current plans are to hold a full ALUG sunday meeting every three months. Norwich monthly meetings continue on the second thursday of the month and the current venue is the Forum coffee bar, 8pm. Next date is 12th February. NOTE The webpages for meetings around the region have been extensively reworked recently - many thanks, Mark. Regards Syd

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Re: [ALUG] Re: Finesko & Firkin Pub
by Matt Parker 18 Jan '04

18 Jan '04

On Sun, 2004-01-18 at 14:51, Chris Walker wrote: > If you want a pub for a meal, take a look at the Kings Head on Hall Rd. You > can order a meal from the bar and they will have it delivered, a curry is not > available but a chinese or fish & chips are. The pub then provides cutlery, > plates and condiments. Curry is available now - there's a new Indian Takeaway opened just round the corner on Queen's Road - Saffron I think it's called. I was at the King's Arms just last night and I would definitely recommend it for a meeting (and not just because I live about 5 mins walk away!!) I should hopefully be able to make the 25th January meeting wherever it is. Matt -- http://www.mpcontracting.co.uk Experts in Java development and website design

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RPM resource for SuSE users
by Graham Trott 18 Jan '04

18 Jan '04

In case other SuSE users haven't seen it, there's a very good SuSE-only RPM resource at http://packman.links2linux.org/ I've found it particularly useful for multimedia applications and GUI front-ends. Such as dvd:rip and kino, the latter being a video editor I found impossible to compile from source. -- GT

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Re: Finesko & Firkin Pub
by Bryce Martin 18 Jan '04

18 Jan '04

On Sat, 2004-01-17 at 11:26, Bryce Martin wrote: > Brett Parker and I visited the Reindeer (or Finesko & Firkin) pub on Thursday > evening this week to see what it was like as an alternative venue to the > Forum Bar. In our opinion the Reindeer is totally unsuitable and could not be > used to host a meeting of alug. > In our humble opinion it would be far better to continue using the Forum Bar. Just out of interest for what reasons was it not suitable? Adam ................ We thought it was unsuitable because of load music, very poor lighting (too dark), and finally poor or unsuitable seating and general layout of seating. I think it would be difficult to get everyone around one table, and you can't really bring tables together like you can at the Forum Bar to expand seating as more people arrive. But importantly the atmosphere was just completely wrong for a meeting (of alug). Just a thought. We left the Firkin pub pretty quickly and went across the road to the City Gate Weatherspoon pub. It has the right atmosphere for a meeting in my opinion. The seating and lighting are very good and tables can be brought together. There is no music but the place has a lively congenial atmosphere. As an added bonus you can get a curry if you're hungry. -- Bye, Bryce.

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Finding website owners
by Syd Hancock 18 Jan '04

18 Jan '04

Is it possible to find the name of the owner of a .com domain? I tried whois on internic but that only shows the registraar. The domain I'm interested in is 01508broadband.com which is apparently a campaign for our local exchange (which is great) but has no named contact (which is puzzling). BTW here is a site with a *lot* of info for anyone following the broadband saga - for example here is the page for our exchange: http://www.samknows.com/broadband/detail.php?exch=4553 Graphs, stats, links... and lots of good info on the opening page. Syd

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Thoughts on dial-up ISPs?
by Edenyard 18 Jan '04

18 Jan '04

Does anyone on here still use dial-up ISPs? I've been using Onetel but I'd like to give them the Big 'E', so I've been looking out for a replacement. Any ideas? I happened across an outfit called Highstream and they actually acknowledge the existence of Linux, which seems somewhat unusual. Has anyone ever heard of them? Thanks for any ideas! Gerald. P.S. Before anyone asks: I live in the half of the Martlesham Heath estate that CAN'T get broadband....

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Finesko & Firkin Pub
by Bryce Martin 17 Jan '04

17 Jan '04

Brett Parker and I visited the Reindeer (or Finesko & Firkin) pub on Thursday evening this week to see what it was like as an alternative venue to the Forum Bar. In our opinion the Reindeer is totally unsuitable and could not be used to host a meeting of alug. In our humble opinion it would be far better to continue using the Forum Bar. -- Bye, Bryce.

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Mozilla - two questions
by Chris Green 16 Jan '04

16 Jan '04

A couple of simple questions about mozilla (I'm running version 1.4 at the moment):- Is there a list of the 'about:*' things that you can enter as URLs anywhere? They are incredibly useful but I can't remember them. The only one I can remember is "about:plugins" Sort of follows on, where/how does mozilla decide what file type suffixes it recognises? My mozilla at work recognises .jfif files but my copy at home doesn't. I've searched Google for the above and I've looked at www.mozilla.org but haven't had much joy. -- Chris Green (chris(a)areti.co.uk)

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Re: my recent mozilla query
by Chris Green 16 Jan '04

16 Jan '04

If you remember yesterday (I think) I asked about what 'about:' URLs were available in mozilla. Well the latest version of mozilla (1.6) has 'about:about' which lists them all for you - they must have heard me! :-) -- Chris Green (chris(a)areti.co.uk)

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Server side (CGI, perl, etc.) photo album application
by Chris Green 16 Jan '04

16 Jan '04

Can anyone recommend a CGI (or other) server side application for managing images (and possibly text documents)? What I want is a very simple way to be able to navigate a hierarchy of directories with photos in them without having to (re)write HTML whenever pictures are added or moved around. The directory hierarchy will provide all the indexing I want. E.G. I want a directory hierachy on my web server with the top level directory called, say, "pictures". I will then create subdirectories under "pictures" such as "dogs", "horses", "housesInFrance", etc. I want the server side script to enable me to navigate the directories easily, so when I go to http://www.my.server/pictures I would expect to automatically see a link to "dogs", and if I navigto "dogs" I want to see the pictures that are in that directory. Thinking about it I doubt if this can be done dynamically but a script to autogenerate all the required linking HTML would be OK, it can be run whenever the picture hierarchy is changed. I suppose even more wonderful would be a way to 'drop' images and such onto a web page and they will be FTPed up to the server and added to the phot album - however that does seem a little too good to be true. -- Chris Green (chris(a)areti.co.uk)

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problem with command line arguments
by Vasko Tomanov 15 Jan '04

15 Jan '04

1. The code lives in a library 2. The library that it lives in does not include the main() function because that will be in the users code. 3. The users code in this case is wxWindows based and so the main() function isn't actually written by the user anyway, but this is a side-issue and I don't want the library to assume that the user is wxWindows-based 4. There is no main() function available for the user to customize. This means that there is no main() function, so how can the user store the argv[] somewhere? 6. But I need to have available for my part of code all the command line arguments Some Ideas ?

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Re: [ALUG] SuSE Update
by Wayne Stallwood 15 Jan '04

15 Jan '04

On Thursday 15 January 2004 10:28, Graham Trott wrote: > Ah, it must be that I have my system set for daily auto update, so I > already have it. On this system uname -a is reporting > > Linux main 2.4.21-166-athlon #1 Thu Dec 18 18:24:05 UTC 2003 i686 athlon > i386 GNU/Linux > > which is some way beyond the 144 you were offered. > > -- GT Ok thanks to those kind souls who responded I have solved this problem. It would appear that YaST had gotten itself all confused, the clue was why was my system trying to download a older kernel version than the one that is currently available. Surely it didn't need to install the patches incrementally when it looks like the patch is the whole kernel ? Then I noticed that the progress bar was going up to 14% downloaded very quickly and then I was getting the error. It turns out that had been halfway though downloading 144 when it was interrupted somehow, when it was trying to resume the download it was failing (for whatever reason). So by using lsof to find out where YaST hides it's download cache I was able to delete the partially downloaded kernel and then bingo on the next try YaST offered 166. New problem became obvious though, Why does my system report linux 2.4.21-166-default #1 Thu Dec 18 18:23:14 UTC 2003 i686 athlon i386 GNU/ Linux Yet YaST said it was downloading the Athlon kernel, it's been saying default ever since I upgraded from 8.0 (which admittedly was running a kernel I had recompiled)

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USB Camera
by James Green 15 Jan '04

15 Jan '04

Hi all, I was given a USB camera for Christmas. It is not supported by the latest gphoto2, however a not dissimliar sounding model is. I cannot get gphoto2 to recognise the camera, although 'lsusb' sees it, as for 'usbview' as a "Trust 715 LCD Powerc@m Zoom". This thing can be treated as a removable USB Mass Storage Device. Yet I cannot even mount. cdrecord --scanbus lists it as: scsibus2: 2,0,0 200) 'Trust ' '715 LCD POWERC@M' '1.00' Removable Disk Could someone lend me some clue as to how to at least mount the camera as a disk drive so I can get the photos on it? I might poke the gphoto2 folkes about experimenting with drivers too. Thanks, James

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FW: [Sheflug] The Economics of Open Source Software - Prospects,
by Ted.Harding＠nessie.mcc.ac.uk 15 Jan '04

15 Jan '04

This just arrived from Shef-lug. I probably won't be able to go along to it (unfortunately -- it would be interesting to observe the audience). However, maybe someone might manage it ... I was going to froward it to Clug too, but can't find their address for the moment ... Cheers, Ted. -----FW: <20040114220107.GA1354(a)lagodelbonso.demon.co.uk>----- Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 22:01:07 +0000 Sender: shef-lug-admin(a)list.sheflug.org.uk From: Simon Brown <simon(a)cliffestones.demon.co.uk> To: "shef-lug(a)list.sheflug.org.uk" <shef-lug(a)list.sheflug.org.uk> Subject: [Sheflug] The Economics of Open Source Software - Prospects, Pitfalls and Politics [tbm(a)cyrius.com] >From debian-uk, food for thought? > MICROSOFT RESEARCH LECTURE > This is a PUBLIC lecture > ________________________________ > > TITLE: The Economics of Open Source Software - Prospects, Pitfalls and > Politics > SPEAKER: Dr Stefan Kooths > INSTITUTION: University of Muenster > HOST: Alexander Braendle, University Relations > DATE: 15 January 2004 > TIME: 13:30 - 14:30 > MEETING ROOM: Lecture Theatre > ADDRESS: Microsoft Research Ltd, 7 J J Thomson Avenue (Off Madingley > Road), Cambridge > > Open Source Software does not represent a suitable alternative to the > commercial software market from an economic point of view, neither in > terms of creating value-added nor in terms of economic efficiency. OSS > does not create any new value-added potential, and offers only a > fraction of the opportunities of the commercial market. The impact of > OSS on sales and employment are therefore less than the effects of > commercial software. Furthermore the de facto free availability of > GPL-licensed software, and hence the lack of a market price, have > far-reaching economic consequences that are elaborated in the > presentation. As far as packaged software is concerned its free > availability very much limits the creation of profits, income, jobs or > taxes. The loss of turnover in the area of software sales cannot be > fully recovered with services linked to the software. So-called > complementary OSS-business models work in the smaller customized > software sector only. The incomes earned there are substitutive and not > additional to those created in the commercial software sector. The lack > of cost-reflecting prices for GPL-licensed standard software also has > consequences for the market process as the pricing mechanism is > associated with an important information and coordination function in a > market economy. If there is no price, and hence no decisive guide figure > for a market, it is, for example, more difficult to identify customer > requirements. Further problems can be identified when it comes to the > allocation of resources, productivity-oriented factor compensation and > incentives for innovations. The lower value-added potential and the > reduced efficiency of coordination are weighty economic arguments. They > demonstrate quite clearly that the promotion of open-source software > cannot be an economically justifiable role for the state. ___________________________________________________________________ Sheffield Linux User's Group - http://www.sheflug.co.uk/mailfaq.html GNU the choice of a complete generation. --------------End of forwarded message------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <Ted.Harding(a)nessie.mcc.ac.uk> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 167 1972 Date: 14-Jan-04 Time: 23:44:11 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------

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