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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 14 Apr '03

14 Apr '03

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.alug.org.uk in the #alug channel. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server irc.alug.org.uk" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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Adding a udma-100 card?
by Syd Hancock 14 Apr '03

14 Apr '03

I have an udma-100 hard drive but the m/board supports only ata-33 (apologies if these are not the correct technical terms). Is a udma-100 card simply a hardware addition or will it need drivers and, if so, are these likely to be modules or will it require a kernel rebuild? If distro dependant, it is likely to be used with either mandrake 9.1 or knoppix. TIA Syd

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LinuxConf Australia (LCA) 2003 - CD-ROM available
by Steve Fosdick 13 Apr '03

13 Apr '03

I spotted on Debian Planet that a CD-ROM had been released of the papers and presentations at LCA-2003 and it looks pretty interesting. Below is list of the papers/presentations. I have downloaded a copy of the CD and if anyone wants a real CD-ROM copy I'd be happy to do one - please let me know. Otherwise see http://conf.linux.org.au/ Wednesday, 22nd January 2003 ============================ Welcome to Linux.conf.au 2003 PHP Introduction Rasmus Lerdorf PHP Advanced Rasmus Lerdorf Using autoconf, automake and friends. Malcolm Tredinnick The Unreliable Guide to Kernel Hacking Paul "Rusty" Russell Using Sweep: Fun with Scrubby Conrad Parker The Ins and Outs of PostgreSQL Gavin Sherry Thursday, 23rd January 2003 =========================== Reverse Engineering Techniques Andrew Tridgell My computer is bigger than yours! Martin Schwenke Making the right sort of difference: bugs Telsa Gwynne and what to do with them Sweep: Real-world audio editing on Linux Conrad Parker more, More, MORE! - Porting Hints and Horror Bdale Garbee Stories from the Debian Project ARQuake - Outdoor Augmented Reality Gaming Wayne Piekarski $100,000 OUT OF THE WINDOW? YOU Philip Hart CANNOT BE SERIOUS! Teaching Software Engineering using David Glance Open Source Software Dynamic Feedback in LVS Jeremy Kerr Pretend Systems doing real Work Dan Shearer Dynamic Probes - Debugging by Stealth Suparna Bhattacharya What is that CONFIG_HAMRADIO thing anyway? Hugh Blemings A Linux users guide to Ham Radio DHCPv6 for Linux Suresh Kodati Q&A Session Friday, 24th January 2003 ========================= Herding Wild Cats and Related Adventures Bdale Garbee An Inside Look at the Debian Project The Boston Consulting Group/OSDN Hacker Survey Jeff "Hemos" Bates initramfs, klibc and early userspace H. Peter Anvin Towards full NTFS semantics in Samba Andrew Tridgell Useful kernel audits Alan Cox Putting a filesystem into a device driver Greg KH PHP Printing with PDF Rasmus Lerdorf Biometrics and Linux Alexander Reeder Perdition: A Mail Retrieval Proxy Simon "Horms" Horman Zeroconf networking Brad Hards Problems in Open Source Licensing Jeremy Malcolm High Availability using Reliable Server Pooling Thomas Dreibholz Who wants another filesystem Neil Brown Saturday, 25th January 2003 =========================== Hacking the kernel and looking cool whilst Paul "Rusty" Russell driving a fast car distcc Martin Pool I'll Do It Later: Softirqs, Tasklets, Bottom Matthew Wilcox Halves, Task Queues, Work Queues and Timers The Linux Kernel Device Model Patrick Mochel Sequel Syndrome: The GNOME Project Grows Up Jeff Waugh Linux at the Little End of the World Malcolm Tredinnick EggMenu James Henstridge Katie, open-source revision control system Geoffrey D. Bennett Design of the Portable.NET Interpreter Rhys Weatherley Developing network applications under UNIX Adrian Chadd Debian Mini-conf ================ DPL State of the Nation Address Bdale Garbee Debian and Ham Radio Bdale Garbee Debian package cache with apt-cacher Jonathan Oxer "Hopefully enough stuff to fill the allotted Paul "Rusty" Russell time" FAI - unattended Debian installations Niall Young IPv6 in Debian Trent "Lathiat" Lloyd IPv6 Mini-conf ============== Writing IPv6 Network Applications Trent "Lathiat" Lloyd IPv6 Tunnel Broker Anand Kumria IPv6 for Everyone Anand Kumria Enabling a Campus LAN for IPv6 Grahame Bowland --- End ---

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Fw: Re: [Alug] PCI ADSL modems
by Steve Fosdick 13 Apr '03

13 Apr '03

On Sun, 13 Apr 2003 00:44:27 -0000 MJ Ray <markj(a)cloaked.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > Steve Fosdick <lists(a)pelvoux.nildram.co.uk> wrote: > > Debian source, patched it, and build it into a binary package which > > I could install in place of the normal Debian one. It is working > > fine with both PPPoA for ADSL and standard dialup. > > Remember to mark the package as "hold" if you use apt-get at all. You > can do this through one of the front-ends (not sure whether dselect > can, though), or I think it's echo "pppd hold" | dpkg --set-selections > if you feel like brute force. You should check the fine manual before > believing me, though. I just checked in aptitude and it seems to have aquired hold status automatically, unless in a brief moment of inspiration I thought to do this myself. When building the package I did look to see if there was any easy way of setting the package version so it was obvious it was an unoffical package but I didn't see such a thing. Anyone know if this is easy? > Actually, I remember someone complaining on another IRC channel about > this problem, but I don't remember if there was another solution. > Such is the trouble with IRC for technical questions. My guess is that it is to do with the fact that the symbol is a BSS symbol rather than a normal text or data symbol, but that doesn't provide a solution. Actaully, since my last e-mail I have remembered another small issue with the Conexant Tigris drivers - one is supposed to be able to get status information from /proc/net/atm/CnxAdsl:0 but if I try to cat this file it dies with a segmentation fault with syslog indicating that a NULL pointer dereference is happening within the kernel. Kudos to Linus and the other kernel contributors that the kernel can recover from errors like this by killing the process that invoked the faulted code. This bug also doesn't seem to make any difference to the actual operation of the card and sufficient status information seems to be available from the /proc/CnxAdslDebugQuery file. Steve.

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Re: [Alug] PCI ADSL modems
by Steve Fosdick 13 Apr '03

13 Apr '03

On Sat, 12 Apr 2003 18:24:05 +0100 Jonathan McDowell <noodles(a)earth.li> wrote: > Update: I've just used these drivers with a Dabs Value PCI ADSL modem in > a Debian Woody box successfully. Main hassle was getting a version of > pppd that supports PPPoATM, but aside from that it wasn't too bad. I also have the Dabs Value PCI ADSL modem working. My kernel version is 2.4.20 and I didn't need to apply any kernel patches at all. The Debian atm-tools package supplies the necessary libatm.so. For me the two points of slight difficulty were: 1. The Debian ppp package doesn't support PPPoA. I was able to find a patch against the version of pppd used in Debian so I downloaded the Debian source, patched it, and build it into a binary package which I could install in place of the normal Debian one. It is working fine with both PPPoA for ADSL and standard dialup. 2. For some reason building the kernel pppoatm driver as a module didn't work because modprobe couldn't find the pppoatm_ioctl_hook symbol. I posted a separate message about this on 5th April. This is not a showstopper though as it works correctly with ATM support including PPPoA compiled into the kernel. Steve.

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SuSe 8.2
by Jamie French 12 Apr '03

12 Apr '03

Hi Guys, Hope all is well! I am looking to get hold of SuSe 8.2, largely for the inclusion of MainActor. Can anyone recommend a source to obtain a copy? Amazon do have it, but thought I would see if there are any other sources. Take Care, Jamie

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Re: [Alug] PCI ADSL modems
by Wayne Stallwood 12 Apr '03

12 Apr '03

On Sunday 02 March 2003 11:32, Chris Walker wrote: > I'm about to buy an ADSL modem - wymondham has been enabled at last - but > I'm confused about what to buy. I bought a conexant internal PCI ADSL modem a while ago as it advertised Linux compatability on the box and I was (at the time) fed up with the Alcatel Frog modem. However when I got it home I discovered that "Linux Compatable" meant a couple of kernel modules suppiled (no source) and only available for two kernels neither of which I wanted to run. Grrrrrr Even if it did have binary drivers for my kernel, I would be hesitant to use it as I would only ever be able to upgrade when they decide to complie new modules. So it sits unused and unwanted on my shelf.

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Re:need help with sparcbook2...
by lea Gardner - Dennant 12 Apr '03

12 Apr '03

does anyone know of how to install a clean sunOS4 over the network onto a passworded sparcbook2? (network primarily runs windblows/disc-less linux at present, but will soon have running sun enterprise 450 server.) this one is baffling guys, so any help would be much appreciated <mailto:leagard@lycos.com> -- On Sat, 12 Apr 2003 06:25:11 main-request wrote: >Send main mailing list submissions to > main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > main-request(a)lists.alug.org.uk > >You can reach the person managing the list at > main-admin(a)lists.alug.org.uk > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of main digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: RAM Disks (Keith Watson) > 2. P2P Search Engines (BenE) > 3. Re: RAM Disks (xs(a)kittenz.org) > >--__--__-- > >Message: 1 >Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 20:13:13 +0100 >From: Keith Watson <kpwatson(a)ukfsn.org> >To: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk >Subject: Re: [Alug] RAM Disks > >On Mon, 7 Apr 2003 10:46:13 +0100 >xs(a)kittenz.org wrote: >> >> They are very fast, and their contents easily removed. This makes >> them good filesystems for /tmp. >> > >sounds interesting, can you point me in the direction of some material that >explains this in more detail? > >Cheers > >Keith > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 2 >Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 22:10:37 +0100 (BST) >From: BenE <mail(a)psychoferret.freeserve.co.uk> >Reply-To: mail(a)psychoferret.freeserve.co.uk >To: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk >Subject: [Alug] P2P Search Engines > > >(I hope this gets through, I've just installed/configured exim ::grin::) > >There's a thread on another list I'm on, with regards to the recent >google stories on the register, about open source search engines. Has >anyone had any experience of any? I notice theres a few about, but none >I've heard of. > >A few people have suggested that a peer to peer search engine might be a >good solution (mostly for decentralisation reasons). Does anyone have any >thoughts? Good? Bad? Impossible? It's certainly an interesting idea IMO. >Might be worth giving it a go to see if it's feasable. > >BenE > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 3 >Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 22:47:52 +0100 >From: xs(a)kittenz.org >To: Keith Watson <kpwatson(a)ukfsn.org> >Cc: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk >Subject: Re: [Alug] RAM Disks > >on Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 08:13:13PM +0100, Keith Watson wrote: >> On Mon, 7 Apr 2003 10:46:13 +0100 >> xs(a)kittenz.org wrote: >> > They are very fast, and their contents easily removed. This makes >> > them good filesystems for /tmp. >> >> sounds interesting, can you point me in the direction of some material that >> explains this in more detail? > >http://www.linuxfocus.org/English/November1999/article124.html is similar >to how I remember doing it with 2.2.x. It may have changed since >then. /usr/src/linux/Documentation/ramdisk.txt documents some >of it. > > > > >--__--__-- > >_______________________________________________ >main(a)lists.alug.org.uk >http://www.anglian.lug.org.uk/ >http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main > > >End of main Digest > ____________________________________________________________ Get 25MB, POP3, Spam Filtering with LYCOS MAIL PLUS for $19.95/year. http://login.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus&ref=lmtplus

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strange window maximising question
by BenEBoy 10 Apr '03

10 Apr '03

Evening all, I don't suppose anyone knows of a way to control the way a window maximises in X (using fluxbox to be precise)? I'm trying to find a way to make sure no windows obscures gkrellm on my desktop when maximised, so I can keep an eye on my new mail indicator (amongst other things). Conversely, I don't really want gkrellm to obscure other windows either. The man pages etc. didn't mention anything about this so I'm guessing it would involve hacking the X/fluxbox code. I thought I'd just check with you lot first, just in case theres a head slappingly simple solution ;-) Cheers, BenE

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FW: h323 and smoothwall
by Dave 10 Apr '03

10 Apr '03

Hi, I have Smoothwall gpl 1.0 firewall and behind it a mandrake box and a w***ows xp box (sorry) which I wish to have netmeetings on. I have found out that I need something called h232 but that's all I've found out. Any help would be great but please be gentle with me I can install linux from a disk and use vi and things but I'm not mr techy. Thanks Dave

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kernel upgrade problems
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 10 Apr '03

10 Apr '03

Hi, list. I've been trying to upgrade my kernel for what seems like months now. It has an ancient old 2.2.18pre21 kernel, and I've been trying many times to compile 2.4.19. I've tried from a fresh confi, from the 2.2.18pre21 config, removing apm and vari0us bits and bobs. But all that happens if I try and boot into it is that it gets as far as "loading linux......................." then reboots back to the startup. 2.2.18pre21 still boots just fine from lilo. on IRC it was suggested I look in lilo.conf for lines like "initrc", I looked and there are none. I spent a while last night looking at the differences between all the files I could find relevant to the two kernels, like permissions gone wrong, missing links, but can't find any. Any ideas, anyone? It's a pretty old box now, but i didn't think backwards compatability was a problem. Thanks, Jenny

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Re: [Alug] FW: h323 and smoothwall
by jamie.french＠talk21.com 10 Apr '03

10 Apr '03

I don't know about Richard Morrells antics against ALUG, though I was on the receiving end of vicious verbal abuse for using the GPL version of smoothwall within their IRC channel. Basically he claimed we are a bleeders, sucking to company dry ?? Oh well ditched them rather quickly and got myself a router, but it was a good product which served me well. Shame it was let down by it's founders. Take Care, Jamie > Ian Douglas <alug(a)k1ngph1cher.com> wrote: > behind a Smoothwall 1.0. (Don't worry - ALUGers are usually quite tolerant > of our newbie foibles! ;-) > >But... but... but... but... Smoothwall! Fancy supporting the man who >wanted to kill ALUG. I guess he's left that project now, but I'd still >use IPcop in prefernce until they disown him. > >Do we have many gnomemeeting users in the group? > >MJR > > > >_______________________________________________ >main(a)lists.alug.org.uk ><a Target='_new' Href='http://talk21.btopenworld.com/redirect.html?http://www.alug.org.uk/'>http://www.alug.org.uk/</a> ><a Target='_new' Href='http://talk21.btopenworld.com/redirect.html?http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailma…'>http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main</a> >Unsubscribe? See message headers or the web site above! Best Regards, Jamie French -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com

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short shpiel...
by lea Gardner - Dennant 10 Apr '03

10 Apr '03

the reason that i am interested in linux is that i am sick of the half-assed coding, mundane, not so powerful windblows. yes it serves a purpose for some (and i certainly get a lot of stick from friends because of my penguinian persuasion), however, i find that many "tools of the trade" are already within linux/unix. i do not have to buy thirdparty stuff. many extra bits are freely d/l-able. (and when leading a "scouting mission" on a network, linux quite frankly kicks the pants off of any windblows box!) there are many many different flavours of linux to choose from too, which means in turn that maybe for a specific task, you could switch to a particular type/version that is better suited to the task in hand. blah blah...(list is near endless!) ____________________________________________________________ Get 25MB, POP3, Spam Filtering with LYCOS MAIL PLUS for $19.95/year. http://login.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus&ref=lmtplus

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Re: [Alug] FW: h323 and smoothwall
by Ben Norcutt 10 Apr '03

10 Apr '03

Sorry I don't know the background to this wantign to kill ALUG statement but I presume you are talking about Richard Morell well he's now resigned from the company and is pursuing other projects. IPcop, *spit*, hmm Cheers, Ben

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Attention web editors and any others
by MJ Ray 09 Apr '03

09 Apr '03

Now that the Makefile seems to be working, I've uploaded another copy of the ALUG website source to http://www.alug.org.uk/alug-web-20030409.tar.gz Feel free to download it. You probably need GNU shellutils and textutils, but most distributions install them by default. To actually build a copy of the site, you'll need xsltproc from libxslt. Could anyone who has their name as the author of a page please either check/update it and then run "make patch", or tell me that they no longer wish to own that page. Anyone who wants to add a page to the web site, please let me know. We probably should move any mature pages out of the wiki and into the main site. My next tasks are: update the layout files; check and update my own pages, the same as everyone else does; make sure all pages have someone looking after them. The owners that I have listed are: ./articles/2001a/lpr2fax.xml: <author >MJ Ray</author> ./articles/2001a/meeting20011.xml: <author >BJ</author> ./articles/2001a/linuxday.xml: <author >MJR</author> ./articles/2001a/meeting20012.xml: <author >BJ</author> ./articles/2001a/ircnames.xml: <author >Jenny Hopkins</author> ./articles/2001a/alugfaq.xml: <author >Current maintainer Adam Bower</author> ./articles/2001a/venuereq.xml: <author >Adam Bower</author> ./articles/2001a/promoart.xml: <author >MJR</author> ./articles/2001a/bestmeat.xml: <author >Alexis Lee</author> ./articles/2001a/refs.xml: <author >Jenny Hopkins</author> ./articles/2001a/refs.xml: <author >Alexis Lee</author> ./articles/2001a/refs.xml: <author >Jenny Hopkins</author> ./background/contacts.xml: <author >MJ Ray</author> ./background/submissions.xml: <author >ALUG Webmaster</author> ./background/cvs-access.xml: <author >MJ Ray</author> ./background/xml-formats.xml: <author >MJ Ray</author> ./background/jobs.xml: <author >Alexis Lee</author> -- MJR http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ IM: slef(a)jabber.at This is my home web site. This for Jabber Messaging. How's my writing? Let me know via any of my contact details.

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past meetings
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 08 Apr '03

08 Apr '03

Here's a tricky one, but can all members who have hosted a meeting over the last two years (since Nov 2001) try and remember the date, venue and a very rough overview of who turned up and what took place? Send to me off list. Ta Jen

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 07 Apr '03

07 Apr '03

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Fw: Kernel Symbol and Sysmap Trouble
by Steve Fosdick 06 Apr '03

06 Apr '03

Here are an interesting couple of problems I am having with kernel symbols I am hoping someone may be able to help me with. 1. Symbol Not Found. Having selected basic ATM and IP over ATM to be built into the kernel and PPPoA to be built as a module and building and installing both kernel and modules, when I try to install the pppoatm module I get an unresolved symbol error for pppoatm_ioctl_hook. Having checked the source pppoatm_ioctl_hook is defined in net/atm/common.c like this: #if defined(CONFIG_PPPOATM) || defined(CONFIG_PPPOATM_MODULE) int (*pppoatm_ioctl_hook)(struct atm_vcc *, unsigned int, unsigned long); EXPORT_SYMBOL(pppoatm_ioctl_hook); #endif As my .config file contains: CONFIG_PPPOATM=m I would expect the symbol to be defined and if I run 'nm' on common.o I find the line: 00000000 B pppoatm_ioctl_hook So the symbol is definitely there. Is the B for BSS segment and is that why it isn't found? If I select pppoatm to be built into the kernel the symbol is resolved correctly. 2. System.map does not match kernel data. After building a kernel and installing it, running LILO and installing the modules, sometimes I get errors about System.map not matching the kernel data. The last example is having build pppoatm into the kernel and I got the following errors during startup: {pppoatm_ioctl_hook} {pppoatm_ioctl_hook_R__ver_pppoatm_ioctl_hook} /boot/System.map-2.4.20 does not match kernel data On a machine at work I often get a similar warning about the System.map not matching kernel data when running the ps command though when the machine is first booted this problem rarely happens, it only appears after some time. Any guesses? Steve.

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Advert! Hardwares To Go!
by Craig 04 Apr '03

04 Apr '03

Okay, here we go: Hitachi GD-7500 DVD-ROm 4X = �15 Liteon CDRW 32x12x40x = �20 Unbranded 4x4x24x CDRW(!) = �10 2x 256mb PC133 = �25 each 10 gig Matrox hdd = �20 41.1gig IBM 5400RPM hdd = �50 Geforce 3 ti200 DDR 64mb AGP = �45 Geforce 2mx 32mb AGP = �20 Matrox 4mb Mytisque PCI = �5 Creative Soundblaster AWE64 ISA = �5 Duron 800mhz (Including Heatsink) + Chaintech CT-7AJA2 (onboard cmedia 8738) + ATX Mini-Tower Case + MS Intellimouse Explorer 2 button optical PS2/USB = �100 AMD K2(?) 350Mhz + VA-503+ mobo + AT Full Tower case + AT keyboard. �60 17" Hansol 710P monitor = �80 TV card (Bt848AKPF as it says on the chipset) PCI = �10 Let me know if you are interested to buy them. Also, spread the word if you know someone looking for some hardwares as well. Just anything to get them off my hands for them to be in use rather than collecting dust! And yes, they all work under GNU/Linux ;) -- (o_ - Craig Butcher //\ - IT Technician / Unix Support MTH/ENV @ UEA V_/_ - http://www.wizball.co.uk

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RE: [Alug] Newsforge: NVIDIA's Latest Drivers and the Quadro FX
by Simon Jude 03 Apr '03

03 Apr '03

On Thu, 3 Apr 2003, Adam Bower wrote: > > But how well does it compare to one of the SGI VAN (visual area network) > systems, this sounds as though it is trying to compete with it. If SGI had > given you a quote then you would probably be looking at just over a million > quid for a similar system, possibly 400k second hand and thats without > support! > Yep! Exactly the original plan from about 5 years ago was for an SGI at about 400K. Evidently they quoted 1 million plus for a system for one uni and another company wheeled in a couple of PC image generators that had better performance!! We recently saw an SGI Onyx system down at BP research which wasn't too impressive!! Sorry to go a bit off topic!!!

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RE: [Alug] Newsforge: NVIDIA's Latest Drivers and the Quadro FX
by Adam Bower 03 Apr '03

03 Apr '03

> -----Original Message----- > From: Simon Jude [mailto:S.Jude@uea.ac.uk] > One the subject of Nvidia graphics cards and drivers, here at > work we are > in the process of purchasing a new VR lab. One of the PC > image generator > systems we have been shown is basically a cluster of PCs that does > parallel rendering and uses Nvidia GeForce 4 cards with one > or two tweeks > of the chips and drivers...Now for the amusing bit...for > these tweeks to > what are basically fairly standard PCs we have been quoted > 100K for one > system and 140K for a one with more rendering power. I think > I am in the > wrong business!!! But how well does it compare to one of the SGI VAN (visual area network) systems, this sounds as though it is trying to compete with it. If SGI had given you a quote then you would probably be looking at just over a million quid for a similar system, possibly 400k second hand and thats without support! > > Oh and as for support...we were quoted 20K per year for this > system!!! ;-) Commercial support isn't cheap though, 20k per year is less than the cost of 1 fairly well trained monkey... Again if it was SGI you would probably be paying about 10x as much (I won't dare compare SGI with monkeys, one of the two would get very offended) Adam

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RE: [Alug] Newsforge: NVIDIA's Latest Drivers and the Quadro FX
by Adam Bower 03 Apr '03

03 Apr '03

> Seeing it is there in gentoo.. I am going to test it out right now on > this laptop :) Is this a precursor to "For Sale - 1 used laptop, works well except screen or graphics card broken, has nvidia chipset....." ;) Adam

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Newsforge: NVIDIA's Latest Drivers and the Quadro FX
by Keith Watson 03 Apr '03

03 Apr '03

<QUOTE> http://newsvac.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=03/04/02/201255 Augustus writes "LinuxHardware.org just published a review looking at NVIDIA's latest driver. "Monday, NVIDIA took the next step in their strive to own the Linux video market with the release of their 1.0-4349 drivers. These drivers represent a first in the Linux driver market, a utility that not only installs the drivers on any distribution, but also keeps the driver up-to-date. We now take a look at this new utility and the drivers themselves. ... </QUOTE> anyone tried the new NVIDIA driver installer yet? Keith ____________ 'I always use the word impossible with the greatest caution.' - Wernher Von Braun

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RE: [Alug] Allow to sell?
by Adam Bower 03 Apr '03

03 Apr '03

> -----Original Message----- > From: Craig [mailto:craig@wizball.co.uk] > Couldn't actually think of a better subject. However, I have a few > hardwares to sell off and thought this would be the ideal place? Just > want to double check before I post another message with hardwares to > sell! Ummm, we did have an FAQ on this... I can't remember what it was though and as the site is still half down its a bit hard to tell you :) Anyhow I think it was along the lines of "selling stuff is fine but it must be GNU/Linux related or hardware must be compatible with GNU/Linux (or free software) and put ADV or advert in your subject line and make sure it is obvious that you are selling stuff." Don't send it more than once either, if you do then I will boil or barbecue you depending on what my mood is at the time :) Adam

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Allow to sell?
by Craig 03 Apr '03

03 Apr '03

Couldn't actually think of a better subject. However, I have a few hardwares to sell off and thought this would be the ideal place? Just want to double check before I post another message with hardwares to sell! -- (o_ - Craig Butcher //\ - IT Technician / Unix Support MTH/ENV @ UEA V_/_ - http://www.wizball.co.uk

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