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new member
by toby cockburn 20 Jan '03

20 Jan '03

Hello, I had been meaning to join alug for a while, but only just got round to it. Am interested in learning more about the O/S, although I first installed RH4.2 back in 98, I have been quite intermittant about developing my knowleadge, I would also like to pass on any of the small amount of knowledge I have to anyone who might need any assistance. I work in IT although unfortunatly not looking after any unices, but the bit mapped dungeon itself! Anyway thats it really. Toby

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Configuring ethernet IP information for eth0... fails
by Robert Stelmack 20 Jan '03

20 Jan '03

Configuration: RedHat 7.2, DELL Latitude Laptop CPi-A Problem: Configuring ethernet IP information for eth0... fails Ultimate goal: Local Area Network to share Linux files with Window/98 system PHASE I: Prepare ethernet communication Steps taken: Logged on as root: [root@localhost root]# ifconfig -a eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:50:DA:2F:33:E7 BROADCAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:4 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:4 collisions:0 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:2360 (2.3 b) lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:128 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:128 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 RX bytes:8324 (8.1 Kb) TX bytes:8324 (8.1 Kb) [root@localhost root]# ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.100 netmask 255.255.255.0 up [root@localhost root]# ifconfig -a eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:50:DA:2F:33:E7 inet addr:192.168.1.100 Bcast 192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 BROADCAST RUNNING MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:4 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:4 collisions:0 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:2360 (2.3 b) lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:128 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:128 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 RX bytes:8324 (8.1 Kb) TX bytes:8324 (8.1 Kb) [root@localhost root]# ping 198.168.1.100 PING 192.168.1.100 (192.168.1.100) from 192.168.1.100 : 56(84) bytes of data 64 bytes from 192.168.1.100: icmp_seq=0 ttl=255 time=487 usec Warning: time of day goes back, taking countermeasures. 64 bytes from 192.168.1.100: icmp_seq=0 ttl=255 time=487 usec <ctrl>c --- 192.168.1.100 ping statistics --- 2 packets transmitted. 2 packets received. 0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/mdev = 0.487/0.626/0.766/0.141 ms [root@localhost root]# ifdown eth0 [root@localhost root]# ifup eth0 Determining IP information for eth0... failed Cheers, Robert (Roger) Stelmack

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 20 Jan '03

20 Jan '03

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.alug.org.uk in the #alug channel. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server irc.alug.org.uk" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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exim
by BenEBoy 19 Jan '03

19 Jan '03

I'm about two steps from abandoning my SuSE linux install to my whizzy linuxfromscratch setup but I've hit a dead end. Exim just won't deliver mail properly... Everytime it gets mail it moans about not being able to get a lock on /var/mail/<whatever> (where I *plan* to store my messages), because of the 'permissions' and defers them. When installing exim I set up an 'exim' user and group and chown/chgrp 'ed /var/mail to that user (and the subdirectories) and in a fit of desparation did a chmod 666 without any success (that is the chmod worked but exim still didn't ::grin::) So....arrrggghhh! I've tried disabling locking altogether with no luck and I'm desperate. Can anyone help me pretty please? Cheers, BenE (also pine moans about /var/mail/<whatever> not being a 'selectable folder'. Maybe it's related??) ::sob:: -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- www.norwich-anarchists.org.uk Officially the best norwich based anarchist web site that has overly large jpegs

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Re: [Alug] exim
by BenEBoy 19 Jan '03

19 Jan '03

Subject: Re: [Alug] exim Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 21:46:37 +0000 From: BenEBoy <ben(a)psychoferret.freeserve.co.uk> To: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk On Thursday 16 January 2003 11:41, Richard Kettlewell wrote: > MJ Ray <markj(a)cloaked.freeserve.co.uk> writes: > > (it's late and I'm fuzzy on the exact meaning of the x bit for > > directories). <snippety snip> Yep, it was the permissions. Exim now works perfectly. Also, the pine problem I thought may have been related (the INBOX folder 'not being selectable') was down to the fact that pine wants it's 'folders' to have a header at the top (oh, and the fact it needs to be a file, rather than a folder...d'oh). Quickly sorted by copying one of the folders it's creates into /var/mail and renaming it. Just thought I'd mention that for future reference :-) cheers all, BenE (now on to fetchmail, I suppose) -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- www.norwich-anarchists.org.uk Officially the best norwich based anarchist web site that has overly large jpegs

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kppp gateway problem
by Ian Douglas 19 Jan '03

19 Jan '03

Hi, I normally access the internet via a gateway on my network via my ethernet card, however, I have recently had a few occasions when I needed to temporarily access an alternative ISP using a modem. To keep things simple I thought I would use kppp to setup the dial-up connection. The modem connects to the dial-up ISP ok, establishes a ppp link, and correctly modifies /etc/resolv.conf to point at the dial-up ISP nameservers, however I cannot ping, or reach anything over the link. If I run tcpdump I instead see that the data is still being routed through my ethernet card rather than now going through the modem. i.e: [ian@swan ian]$ ping 80.225.253.50 PING 80.225.253.50 (80.225.253.50) from 192.168.1.232 : 56(84) bytes of data. --- 80.225.253.50 ping statistics --- 90 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss If I run netstat I see: [ian@swan ian]$ netstat -rn Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 80.225.252.38 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 40 0 0 ppp0 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 40 0 0 eth0 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 40 0 0 lo 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 40 0 0 eth0 192.168.1.1 is my ethernet network's internet gateway machine. If I manually delete this gateway entry in the routing table and add my ptp partner I get: [ian@swan ian]$ netstat -rn Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 80.225.252.38 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 40 0 0 ppp0 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 40 0 0 eth0 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 40 0 0 lo 0.0.0.0 80.225.252.38 0.0.0.0 UG 40 0 0 ppp0 and can happily access the internet: [ian@swan ian]$ ping www.bbc.co.uk PING www.bbc.net.uk (212.58.224.56) from 80.40.6.31 : 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from www10.thdo.bbc.co.uk (212.58.224.56): icmp_seq=0 ttl=250 time=178.495 msec I noticed that the kppp dial-up configuration screens have a "gateway" tab. I have set this to "Default Gateway" rather than "Static Gateway" and have also selected "Assign the default route to this gateway". Question: What silly thing am I doing wrong (or have misconfigured) to prevent kppp changing the default gateway route from the ethernet card to the modem? Thanks, Ian. PS: In case it is relevant the PC involved is running Mandrake 8.2 and kppp version 2.0.9.

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Linux Standards Base
by Ricardo Campos 17 Jan '03

17 Jan '03

In compiling my report about Linux for uni, I have merely skirted around the topic of LSB. I notice, for example, that there are only a few distros that have LSB compliance. I guess that the LSB is a good idea (in theory), since Linux has gone the way UNIX did by diversifying (perhaps too much)... Does anyone have any thoughts on this? It seems, also, that compliance means that RPM needs to be used? (That's insane IMHO, but I haven't tried APT-RPM). Any thoughts oh wise ones? ;)

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Problem No. 347 - Remote printing - any more offers? (Update)
by bsamuels＠beenthere-donethat.org.uk 14 Jan '03

14 Jan '03

Some extra information which, I think, may answer one of my own questions. I have just connected my laptop to the network and tried to print to the same remote printer. This works perfectly well. I also see in lpr.log: machine1 lpd[28252]: machine3.mynetwork requests recvjob timicrol machine1 lpd[28252]: reading df file for timicrol machine1 lpd[28252]: finished reading df file for timicrol machine1 lpd[28252]: reading cf file for timicrol machine1 lpd[28252]: finished reading cf file for timicrol I don't see this when trying to print from the Mandrake machine (Machine2) so I suspect there is nothing going to the remote host (Machine1). Anything I could try on the Mandrake machine to try and sort this? (Anyone have a steam roller ?) Barry Samuels

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Re: [Alug] locations
by Matt Parker 13 Jan '03

13 Jan '03

On Sunday 12 Jan 2003 1:06 pm, Chris Walker wrote: > Can somebody give me a pointer to where kscd stores the freedb data for CDs > please? I have around 200 audio CDs which I have already fetched details on > another OS and I'd like to have the same details available in Linux but > would prefer not to have to download them all again. > > Oh. It's Mandrake 9 in case it's important. > > TIA. locate kscd gives:- /usr/share/apps/kscd/cddb /usr/share/apps/kscd/cddb/blues /usr/share/apps/kscd/cddb/classical /usr/share/apps/kscd/cddb/country /usr/share/apps/kscd/cddb/data /usr/share/apps/kscd/cddb/folk /usr/share/apps/kscd/cddb/jazz /usr/share/apps/kscd/cddb/misc /usr/share/apps/kscd/cddb/newage /usr/share/apps/kscd/cddb/reggae /usr/share/apps/kscd/cddb/rock /usr/share/apps/kscd/cddb/soundtrack The format is this (with the filename being the same as the disc ID):- # xmcd CD database file # Generated: Mon Jan 13 21:01:53 2003 by KSCD # Copyright (C) 1997-1999 Bernd Johannes Wuebben. # Copyright (C) 1999-2001 Dirk Foersterling. # # Track frame offsets: # 200 # 27797 # 50962 # 72812 # 97517 # 118302 # 145365 # 188035 # 211805 # 233550 # 253700 # # Disc length: 3382 seconds # # Revision: 8 # Submitted via: Kscd 1.3.3 # DISCID=990d330a DTITLE=Loop / A Gilded Eternity TTITLE0=Vapour TTITLE1=Afterglow TTITLE2=The Nail Will Burn TTITLE3=Blood TTITLE4=Breathe into Me TTITLE5=From Centre to Wave TTITLE6=Be Here Now TTITLE7=Shot with a Diamond TTITLE8=The Nail Will Burn (Burn Out) TTITLE9=Arc-Lite (Sonar) EXTD=BMG/Beggars Banquet/RCA 2061-2-H\n(c) 1990 Beggars Banquet\n\n EXTT0= EXTT1= EXTT2= EXTT3= EXTT4= EXTT5= EXTT6= EXTT7= EXTT8= EXTT9= PLAYORDER=

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Problem No. 347 - Remote printing - any more offers?
by bsamuels＠beenthere-donethat.org.uk 13 Jan '03

13 Jan '03

My problem is still there. Everything I have tried hasn't worked. The machine from which I am trying to print (Mandrake 9.0) says that the remote host refused to accept the control file but the remote host (Debian Testing) doesn't show any signs of access or attempted access in the logs. Stopping the firewall on the remote host makes no difference. Is there any way that I can find out on which machine the problem lies? All other network functions perform properly. I think that the Mandrake machine is lying to me but I can't prove it. Barry Samuels

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 13 Jan '03

13 Jan '03

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.alug.org.uk in the #alug channel. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server irc.alug.org.uk" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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Problem No. 347 - Remote printing
by bsamuels＠beenthere-donethat.org.uk 12 Jan '03

12 Jan '03

Well - it feels like that sometimes. I have two machines networked. Machine1 (Debian Testing) has two printers - one on the parallel port and one on a USB port. I want to be able to print from Machine2 (Mandrake 9) to Machine1 but when I try I see a message in the logs 'Remote host did not accept the control file'. I see this whichever printer I try and use so I assume the problem is on Machine1 but I don't know how to correct it. Machine1 does have an /etc/hosts.lpd with the following entry: machine2.mynetwork There is an iptables firewall running (Endoshield) but I have tried after shutting down the firewall to no avail. All other networking functions correctly. Any advice would be appreciated. Barry Samuels

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Problem installin Videolan Client
by celldee＠tiscali.co.uk 12 Jan '03

12 Jan '03

Hi all, I'm having trouble installing Videolan Client. I'm using Redhat 8.0 (2.4.18-19). I've installed packages for libdvdcss,libdvdread and libdvbpsi but when I try to install the vlc packages with the command 'rpm -Uvh vlc-0.4.6-1.i586.rpm vlc-mad-0.4.6-1.i586.rpm vlc-gnome-0.4.6-1.i586.rpm' I get the following error message :- error: failed dependencies: liba52.so.0 is needed by vlc-0.4.6-1 libavcodec.so is needed by vlc-0.4.6-1 libmad.so.0 is needed by vlc-mad-0.4.6-1 Can anyone help me out ?

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Re: NTL broadband
by tom potts 11 Jan '03

11 Jan '03

Its superb but theres a few hitches Linux wise.. 1) You can only register using a windows box and IE5/5.5 and no firewall running! Once up and running turn off the modem for an hour or two and then you can DHCP on using Linux but make sure your firewalls tight and you passwords are shadowed - I left mine unsecure to see what happened and got hacked pretty quickly one an attempted takeover and once sendmail was so busy I had to cold boot! 2) I get 1.5M UDP (mainly who-has) on my port per week so watch out what you do with a tcpdump output on a small router. 3) I had to have the engineers round 3 times to get it sorted properly. Warning: With 600k you can browse everything useful in about a week! And those nasty sites with splash screens everywhere can download too fast for you to stop them so be ready to CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE Tom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

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wireless networking
by simon 11 Jan '03

11 Jan '03

Thanks to everyone who replied to my wireless network questions the card is up and running. I brought a DLink DWL-500 which has the prism2 chipset which seems to be the most supported chipset. Here's somethings I found useful. There is a RedHat RPM for setting up wireless network cards which was handy it can be found at prism2.unixguru.raleigh.nc.us and includes all the documentation as well. http://jgo.local.net/LinuxGuide/linux-ethernet.html for the basics of which scripts to edit to get your network going. Once again thanks Simon

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Knoppix problem
by bsamuels＠beenthere-donethat.org.uk 10 Jan '03

10 Jan '03

I seem to be having problems with the ALUG mailing list. The message that I last sent wasn't returned to me as it usually is and I have received no mail from ALUG since. I see on the ALUG site archives that my message is there together with two replies for which I thank the people concerned. As far as the SCSI modules go I really can't remember if the module offered was ncr53c8xx.or sym53c8xx.o but it was the only one offered. SCSI adapters in both machines are Symbios adapters. Barry Samuels

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Linux Anti-virus software.
by Robert Tillyard 10 Jan '03

10 Jan '03

Does anyone know of a reasonably priced anti-virus product for Linux? Ideally we would want incoming and outgoing mail scanned and if possible HTTP/FTP downloads. This is for Red Hat 7.3 to protect PCs that will be using it as a mail/proxy server. Regards, Rob.

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Paintball?
by MJ Ray 09 Jan '03

09 Jan '03

Would any members of ALUG be interested in paintball matches against other LUGs? It's currently being discussed by some LUGs, although mostly they seem to be from the Midlands area at the moment. We're a big mailing list... must have some good shots out there, surely? -- MJR http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ IM: slef(a)jabber.at This is my home web site. This for Jabber Messaging. How's my writing? Let me know via any of my contact details.

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Knoppix problem
by bsamuels＠beenthere-donethat.org.uk 09 Jan '03

09 Jan '03

I have recently acquired a Knoppix CD. Neither of my two computers will boot from a CD so I made a boot floppy from the knoppix image provided. Booting from machine 1, a dual CPU with 512MB ram and all SCSI devices produces the message 'Can't find KNOPPIX file system, sorry' and I find I'm dumped into a *very* restrictive shell which, although it includes 'insmod', doesn't include 'ls' which is not very helpful. Insmoding the correct SCSI module gets me precisely nowhere and 'lsmod' produces nothing. Trying the 'expert' boot gives me a list of SCSI modules and having selected the appropriate module I get the same result. Booting from machine 2 with 128MB ram and also all SCSI gets me into the full Knoppix system without any problems. Although both machines use the same SCSI module, ncr53c8xx, one of the differences is that Machine 1 has a dual channel SCSI adapter which is fairly modern and Machine 2 has a single channel adapter which is some years old. Anyone have any experience of this? Regards Barry Samuels

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Realplayer plugin for Mozilla uses 98% CPU!
by N3tw0rkAng31B0y 09 Jan '03

09 Jan '03

I use Mozilla 1.0 on Debian Woody. I have installed RealPlayer8, and can run realplay fine. However, when I visit a website (such as the Radio 1 site, which is WHY I installed it, having used Windows for a project, I got rather addicted to John Peel's show again ;) ), realplay uses up to 98% of the CPU, meaning I have to kill the process. Typing about:plugins in the address bar gives: <snip> File name: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/rpnp.so Mime Type Description Suffixes Enabled audio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin RealPlayer Plugin Metafile rpm Yes <snip> So it seems to be installed OK. Anyone else found this? Anyone had any luck with RealOne (the newer one?) I can't seem to find ANY plugin bundled with it. It's quite irritating. Specially cos my housemate oversaw both install processes... "so it took u about 3 minutes in Windows, and a whole night and it still doesn't work in Linux..." (Nelson from the Simpsons laugh) "...HAAA HAAA!" grrrr. lol Ricardo

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[newsforge daily] January 06, 2003 : Microsoft Belgium's GPL attack refuted in detail
by Keith Watson 07 Jan '03

07 Jan '03

<http://newsvac.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=03/01/06/1023218> leonbrooks writes "Recently, images from a presentation by Microsoft Belgium were published on the web. The presentation made some startling (for Microsoft) concessions to Open Source, then set about FUDding the GPL into the ground. I whacked together a point-by-point answer to the anti-GPL FUD and here it is." <http://cyberknights.com.au/articles/areas-for-concern.phtml> Keith

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[XPOST] Newsforge: Linux myths that never die
by Keith Watson 06 Jan '03

06 Jan '03

"- by John Fitzgibbon - As a long-time Microsoft Windows user who recently switched almost exclusively to Linux, I'd like to share a few observations on the transition... " <http://newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=03/01/04/1221251> Keith

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 06 Jan '03

06 Jan '03

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.alug.org.uk in the #alug channel. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server irc.alug.org.uk" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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RF and isdn
by tom potts 05 Jan '03

05 Jan '03

theres a 'dedicated' group www.consume.net and their mailing list will give you more sugestions than you can cope with. isdn - try typing 'isdn4linux' in the saerch box on http://www.redhat.com/mirrors/LDP/ but it almost seems to be old technology already! Tom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

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wireless PCI cards
by simon 05 Jan '03

05 Jan '03

Hi I'm looking to add a wireless PCI card to my network. Can anyone suggest a good product to buy that will work with SUSE 8.0. Thanks Simon

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