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DVD / DMA
by BenEBoy 13 Dec '02

13 Dec '02

I was wondering if anyone could help me with the following please? I installed ogle a while back but the DVD playback kept jumping. On the assumption that this was ogle playing up I installed xine, and the test script that comes with it mentioned that my DVD player hadn't got DMA enabled. following the instructions to enable it just caused my system (SuSE 8.0) to fall over in a heap. There is no problem under windows though. I assume therefore that the mobo/dvd drive can't use DMA under linux (sorry, haven't got the make/models of them). Before I go out and buy a new motherboard/DVD drive, could the fault be anywhere else? Do I need to compile anything into the kernel perhaps? Sacrifice a chicken to a dark god? cheers, BenE -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- www.norwich-anarchists.org.uk Officially the best norwich based anarchist web site that has overly large jpegs

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Anyone Done The Cube Yet?
by Keith Watson 13 Dec '02

13 Dec '02

<QUOTE> Landscape-style engine that pretends to be an indoor first person shooter engine. Combines very high precision dynamic occlusion culling with a form of geometric mipmapping on the whole world for dynamic LOD for configurable fps & graphic detail on most machines. Uses OpenGL & SDL. </QUOTE> Homepage: <http://wouter.fov120.com/cube/index.php4> Keith

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Re: [Alug] Re: Welcome to the "main" mailing list (Digest mode)
by NuTTeR -- Not Entered -- 13 Dec '02

13 Dec '02

If your bying new hardware you shouldnt need to set IRQ's, DMA's or ioports's. Most pci and agp cards self configure so unless you still have a isa card youll be fine. Debian's a good distro but Mandrake is your easy as hell to install if you want the easyer then windows 98 install path. ----- Original Message ----- From: B.E.D.Ellis-00(a)student.lboro.ac.uk Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 12:48:56 +0000 (GMT) To: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk Subject: Re: [Alug] Re: Welcome to the "main" mailing list (Digest mode) > Quoting Paul <paul.corner(a)tesco.net>: > > > If you need any CDs of the various distros, you only have to ask - Most > > of us > > are only too willing to help out. > > I'm happy to download any ISOs etc I need from the net, I'm not in a rush to do > anything really. Thanks for the offer though. > > Quoting Tristan Scott <trs(a)scott998.freeserve.co.uk>: > > > Im running Gentoo. this is a good one if you're already into linux > > I'm not ^^ > > > This is irrelevent for a newbie tho, i suggest using some distro that > > holds your hand... what language(s) do you write in? gentoo obviously > > has a good build environment, but i dont know about the big distros... > > I think I'll stick with Debian unless someone has a good reason I shouldn't. > > I'm a decent programmer when it comes to java, c, c++, c#, php, VB, JavaScript > and most of their variations (such as ActionScript, VBScript, JSP, ASP, etc). > I've messed around with Assembly, OpenGL, DirectX, the WinAPI and > Sockets/Network programming but not done any major projects with them yet. > > I'm absololutly useless when it comes to hardware though. Only recently I'm > starting to come to grips with everything since I'm planning on buying a new > computer so been reading up on all the latest tech stuff. > I think I'll have the most trouble during installation when it asks for my > hardware settings (like an Interupts/DMA/etc). As for figuring out how to > install various packages, thats where I ring up a few friends and post to this > list. > > Cheers for the feedback, > > Ben "Losing broadband for a whole 2 weeks, how am I gonna survive?!?!?" > Ellis > > _______________________________________________ > main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > http://www.alug.org.uk/ > http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main > Unsubscribe? See message headers or the web site above! > -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://www.graffiti.net Powered by Outblaze

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Re: [Alug] Stupid Mistake #427 (one in a series of 1000's)
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 13 Dec '02

13 Dec '02

Keith Watson wrote: >Here's a neat way to trash your Debian installation. Use dselect to install and uninstall a few packages, when >dselect warns you >that you're about to uninstall the ncurses library just hit the return key (default answer is 'y'). Works a treat! >:o( Reminds me fondly of the time I typed "rm -r ./*" and missed out the full stop :-) Luckily I wasn't root at the time. >(I've also just realised that XFree86 is a pun on X386 - groan, never mind, I'll just keep banging the rocks >together). Heh. I hadn't noticed either. Ug ug. Next meeting anyone? January? Jenny.

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Stupid Mistake #427 (one in a series of 1000's)
by Keith Watson 13 Dec '02

13 Dec '02

Here's a neat way to trash your Debian installation. Use dselect to install and uninstall a few packages, when dselect warns you that you're about to uninstall the ncurses library just hit the return key (default answer is 'y'). Works a treat! :o( (I've also just realised that XFree86 is a pun on X386 - groan, never mind, I'll just keep banging the rocks together). Keith ____________ Life is a mystery to be lived, not a problem to be solved. Zen Saying

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Re: [Alug] Linux booting from second ide controller?
by NuTTeR -- Not Entered -- 12 Dec '02

12 Dec '02

Thanx girls/guys ill try it out with a second hard drive. Using the NT bootloader seems abit piontless and harder then lilo sorry if there's nothing wrong with using lilo on the win2000 mbr then itll do that and install debian or Mandrake on my second hard drive. Maybe it was the hurd that has a problem witht booting from the second ide controller... wouldnt supprise me as it cant support over 2Gb hard disc partitions, ill try installing that on the second one as well just for fun =). Ill tell you how i get on. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martyn Drake" <linux(a)drake.org.uk> Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 12:23:16 -0000 To: "NuTTeR -- Not Entered --" <uknutter(a)graffiti.net> Subject: Re: [Alug] Linux booting from second ide controller? > It's always worth investing in a copy of Partition Magic > (http://www.powerquest.com). That way, you can always resize partitions to > your hearts content without having to wipe and the re-intall operating > systems all day long. > > I've not had any problems with booting Windows 2000 or Windows XP with Lilo, > and neither have I had a problem in the past of installing Linux on the > second hard drive and booting it from the first (as part of Lilo). > > Regards, > > Martyn > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "NuTTeR -- Not Entered --" <uknutter(a)graffiti.net> > To: <main(a)lists.alug.org.uk> > Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 12:57 PM > Subject: [Alug] Linux booting from second ide controller? > > > > Hi, > > Ive just got a new computer with win 2000 installed. Its also got alot of > specialist software and device drivers(not avalible for linux) so im keeping > it(i also like it its the only version of windows i can say that about). > > > > So my problem is that i dont want to re-install windows 2000 on a smaller > partition unless i have REALY have to. If there were a version of fips or > somthing similare then id maybe resize it so i could fit a smallish "/boot" > partision. The boot partition needs to be in the first 8 Gig if i remember > correctly or is that just older computers/drives? I do have a spare hd lying > around not doing much but i seem to remember theres a problem getting linux > to boot fromt he second ide controller, am i wrong? > > > > Also is there anyproblems booting win2000 with lilo? Same as win98 right? > > > > Thanx girls/guys =) > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > > Get your free email from http://www.graffiti.net > > > > Powered by Outblaze > > > > _______________________________________________ > > main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > > http://www.alug.org.uk/ > > http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main > > Unsubscribe? See message headers or the web site above! > > > -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://www.graffiti.net Powered by Outblaze

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RE: [Alug] RH 7.3 Install
by Andrew Wallis 09 Dec '02

09 Dec '02

Not sure what your problem is but I suggest you enter the SCSI BIOS at boot-up and carry out a complete low-level format of the disk from there (and verification / re-mapping of faulty sectors) if you have the time. Then re-try your installation. BTW, I always do this before a new installation in case any new bad sectors have turned up. Regards Andrew Wallis Fox Cottage Fox Hill St Cross South Elmham HARLESTON IP20 0NX UK phone: +44 (0) 1986 782283 mobile: +44 (0) 7860 217025 SMS via email: mailto:+447860217025@mmail.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > Message: 2 > From: jamie.french(a)talk21.com > To: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 22:53:26 GMT+00:00 > Subject: [Alug] RH 7.3 Install > > > Hi Guys, > > After downloading RH7.3 and conducted a linux mediacheck when at > partitioning stage I receive the following error > "Partition table on device sda was unreadable. Initialize this > drive Yes/No." > By selecting Yes the following error occured "no valid devices > were found to create new filesystems". Thus the system kills > sessions and reboots. > > By checking system messages (ctrl+alt+F4) at various points I can > determine that the SCSI card and devices where detected. > > Though after receiving the final error messege the following > system message appears a number of time "parity error detected in > data-in phase". > > Please bear in mind this machine has been running SuSe without > any difficulties. > > Machine Spec: > > Supermicro P6SBU > 196MB > Onboard AIC-7890 SCSI ULTRA2/LVD > Seagate 9GB LVD > > Any help would be great as I am trying to learn this sh*t. > > Take Care, > > Jamie > > Best Regards, > > Jamie French

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Re: [Alug] Wireless networking
by NuTTeR -- Not Entered -- 09 Dec '02

09 Dec '02

I think one of the linux mags had an artical about wirless cards atm :). i didnt see anything about attaching external antennas though sorry. It did how every say its a download and recompile stuff setup as no distros support the newer cards verymuch/atall. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: Simon Jude <S.Jude(a)uea.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 19:44:43 +0000 (GMT) To: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk Subject: [Alug] Wireless networking > Hi, > Does any anybody have any experience of wireless networking kit and linux? > In particular can anybody suggest any cards that have the facility to plug > in external antennas (SMA connectors) and that are reasonably priced? > > Simon > > > > > _______________________________________________ > main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > http://www.alug.org.uk/ > http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main > Unsubscribe? See message headers or the web site above! > > -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://www.graffiti.net Powered by Outblaze

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Re: [Alug] RH 7.3 Install
by NuTTeR -- Not Entered -- 09 Dec '02

09 Dec '02

Well if you recompile your kernel and leave in only the devices that are needed + turn on the arch optimizations you should be able to see the difference. I know i can on my laptop when i fiddle around with the kernel options anoth ;).But on my laptop i find kde and gnome to slow any way(iceWM is the only way unless showing ppl that linux is user freindly). Window decorations, desktop backgrounds, ... do make a differnence as well but most of it is down to ram size and what your trying to fit in there i think. Ive always found debian to run very cuclutered and things like SuSe, Mandrake(9.0 seemed better then 8.*) to be bloated. Dennis > Unneeded service installations aside, should there really be that much > difference between different distributions anyway. I know some complie their > packages with Pentium optimisations and others not, but no-one really does > any heavy optimisation on the kernel do they ? > > Or is it just things like default themes that are making all the difference ? -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://www.graffiti.net Powered by Outblaze

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RE: [Alug] Woody
by franardia＠the-fastest.net 09 Dec '02

09 Dec '02

Thank you everyone, very much. (Also for the welcomes... :D) This combination worked perfectly: > >> (Hold down CTL + ALT + F1 if you are stuck on the blank Xwindow > >> screen, this will bring you to a log-in console on tty1, then, as > >> root, type > > > > dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 # XFree86 4.x I have another question, if that is not too much asking (I truly am a newbie in search of liberation from MS enslavement). I have installed windowmaker as a window manager, but the thing is that it is started "on top" of Gnome 1.4. I tried following some advice given on the debian website, but I couldn't get rid of gnome at startup. Where do I make gdm not start so I can use wmaker instead? Thank you for ANY help, as usual. Francesco. PS I would be interested in attending some meeting, or perhaps at least over IRC (I am in Essex, with no transport, so I don't know how I could get to attend a meeting, which is where IRC would come in useful...:)). On Wed, 4 Dec 2002 16:13:34 -0000, "Jonathan Dye" <jonathan.dye(a)automationpartnership.com> said: > MJ Ray wrote: > > Jenny_Hopkins(a)toby-churchill.com > > <Jenny_Hopkins(a)toby-churchill.com> wrote: > >> Have you tried logging in to a console and rerunning XF86Setup? > >> (Hold down CTL + ALT + F1 if you are stuck on the blank Xwindow > >> screen, this will bring you to a log-in console on tty1, then, as > >> root, type > > > > dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 # XFree86 4.x > > dpkg-reconfigure xserver-svga # XFree86 3.x usually > > > > may be preferable in some circumstances. > > Might be worth doing an > > apt-get install read-edid > > first and then the reconfigure should hopefully detect the resolutions > your > monitor supports automatically (if it's not ancient). > > JD > > _____________________________________________________________________ > This message has been checked for all known viruses by the > MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service > > _______________________________________________ > main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > http://www.alug.org.uk/ > http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main > Unsubscribe? See message headers or the web site above! > -- http://fastmail.fm - Consolidate POP email and Hotmail in one place

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the last meeting / linux lectures
by David Eisenhart 09 Dec '02

09 Dec '02

Having expressed great interest in the proposed Linux lectures my apologies for not making it to the last meeting to contribute to the discussion. (I have unfortunately just got back from being away). If its not too late to throw in an idea:- maybe materials and ideas from the LFS project could be usefully drawn upon throughout the lecture series (not necessarily the whole thing of course, but appropriate selected bits). This could cut down on preparation time and also provide a body of available, quality written materials. David Eisenhart

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 09 Dec '02

09 Dec '02

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.alug.org.uk in the #alug channel. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server irc.alug.org.uk" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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Wireless networking
by Simon Jude 06 Dec '02

06 Dec '02

Hi, Does any anybody have any experience of wireless networking kit and linux? In particular can anybody suggest any cards that have the facility to plug in external antennas (SMA connectors) and that are reasonably priced? Simon

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Soundcards, MIDI, Wavetables + Audigy 2
by Matt 06 Dec '02

06 Dec '02

Hi! Im Matt, and I'm new to ALUG Hi everyone! I was wondering if any one knows about support for the "Audigy 2" soundcard from Creative Labs. Ive looked around, but can find only mentions of the "Audigy" (original). If this is out of the question, does any-one know of a soundcard which has Wavetables, MIDI and Sythesiser support under linux. Im intending to build a new PC and wish to have a fully supported soundcard so I get my moneys worth! Any help welcome Matt

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Linux replacement for NetMeeting
by Ian Douglas 06 Dec '02

06 Dec '02

Hi, I do not see my brother much. As he has recently brought himself his first computer I am getting him a webcam for Christmas. I would therefore like to get my PC set up and ready for the expected excited phone call and our proposed live video linkup on Christmas Day - sorry guys but this project's deadline is not negotiable ;-) My brother (who is very new to computers) will be using the webcam bundled "Microsoft NetMeeting" on his Windows only PC at his end. Will I have to also boot into Windows and use NetMeeting my end or is there a Linux equivalent (I run Debian 3.0) I can use? I also have a more computer literate friend who lives some distance away from me who runs Linux like myself. Is there a NetMeeting type program (even if it is not compatible with NetMeeting itself) which two remote Linux users can use to videoconference over the net? TIA, Ian.

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RE: [Alug] Woody
by Jonathan Dye 04 Dec '02

04 Dec '02

MJ Ray wrote: > Jenny_Hopkins(a)toby-churchill.com > <Jenny_Hopkins(a)toby-churchill.com> wrote: >> Have you tried logging in to a console and rerunning XF86Setup? >> (Hold down CTL + ALT + F1 if you are stuck on the blank Xwindow >> screen, this will bring you to a log-in console on tty1, then, as >> root, type > > dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 # XFree86 4.x > dpkg-reconfigure xserver-svga # XFree86 3.x usually > > may be preferable in some circumstances. Might be worth doing an apt-get install read-edid first and then the reconfigure should hopefully detect the resolutions your monitor supports automatically (if it's not ancient). JD _____________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses by the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service

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Re: [Alug] Woody
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 04 Dec '02

04 Dec '02

>Hello everyone, > I have joined the list not long ago. My name is Francesco, foreign > student here in the UK. Welcome to the list. >I have made a mistake during installation at basically "monitor setup" >stage so now when the X server starts (at the login screen) nothing is >displayed and the monitor goes blind just giving some frequency values >and a NOT SUPPORTED message (I figured the selected resolution and >frequency match cannot be handled my thge stupid monitor..). Do you know >if that can be fixed without having to reinstall the whole system again? >Many thanks for ANY help/opinions. Have you tried logging in to a console and rerunning XF86Setup? (Hold down CTL + ALT + F1 if you are stuck on the blank Xwindow screen, this will bring you to a log-in console on tty1, then, as root, type XF86Setup). Jen.

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Woody
by franardia＠the-fastest.net 04 Dec '02

04 Dec '02

Hello everyone, I have joined the list not long ago. My name is Francesco, foreign student here in the UK. I am a Linux newbie I must say, and I am desperately trying to do away with M$... I had Woody installed until a few days back on my second HDD and reinstalled it today after some serious hardware problems(all was working fine anyway until then). I have made a mistake during installation at basically "monitor setup" stage so now when the X server starts (at the login screen) nothing is displayed and the monitor goes blind just giving some frequency values and a NOT SUPPORTED message (I figured the selected resolution and frequency match cannot be handled my thge stupid monitor..). Do you know if that can be fixed without having to reinstall the whole system again? Many thanks for ANY help/opinions. Francesco -- http://fastmail.fm - One of many happy users: http://www.fastmail.fm/docs/quotes.html

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RH 7.3 Install
by jamie.french＠talk21.com 04 Dec '02

04 Dec '02

Hi Guys, After downloading RH7.3 and conducted a linux mediacheck when at partitioning stage I receive the following error "Partition table on device sda was unreadable. Initialize this drive Yes/No." By selecting Yes the following error occured "no valid devices were found to create new filesystems". Thus the system kills sessions and reboots. By checking system messages (ctrl+alt+F4) at various points I can determine that the SCSI card and devices where detected. Though after receiving the final error messege the following system message appears a number of time "parity error detected in data-in phase". Please bear in mind this machine has been running SuSe without any difficulties. Machine Spec: Supermicro P6SBU 196MB Onboard AIC-7890 SCSI ULTRA2/LVD Seagate 9GB LVD Any help would be great as I am trying to learn this sh*t. Take Care, Jamie Best Regards, Jamie French -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com

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Urgent Help
by jamie.french＠talk21.com 03 Dec '02

03 Dec '02

Hi Guys, Hope you all had fun yesterday, unfortunately I was unable to attend due to family constraints. I have just been approached with a job that requires Redhat 7.x experience, I have used Redhat many moons ago and the grey cells are a bit clouded, as many of you know I use SuSe. So what is the best way I can learn Redhat in the next few days i.e. book recommendations with good references to administration for corporate networks ... The book also needs basics as well. Thanks in advance, Jamie Best Regards, Jamie French -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com

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Re: [Alug] Urgent Help
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 02 Dec '02

02 Dec '02

Jamie: O'Reilly books are always pretty excellent., try a book from them on basic administration, then get a red-hat specific book to go with it? http://www.oreilly.com/ http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000066TFZ/ref=er_ra_acc_dp_b/026-… Jen.

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Urgent Help
by jamie.french＠talk21.com 02 Dec '02

02 Dec '02

Hi Guys, In my plight to renew and train grey matter, has any1 used this book? Sounds good and may get me out of a pickle. http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0130084662/qid=1038835931/sr=2-3/r… Take Care, Jamie Best Regards, Jamie French -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com

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Yesterday's meeting.
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 02 Dec '02

02 Dec '02

Hi, Did tremendous things re. the introduction to linux lectures take place? I ended up with two children and no transport (well, no I had the bike, but three is a bit of a squash) yesterday as Mossey needed the car for the day, bah. I'll *never* get my modem working. :-( Jen.

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 02 Dec '02

02 Dec '02

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Gentoo questions..
by Paul 01 Dec '02

01 Dec '02

Hi Folks After installing RH8.0 over the weekend and getting really (and I mean *really) **** off with yet another compiler producing broken binaries, I think it's about time to look at another linux base. Some questions for the Gentoo experts (cos gentoo.org times out on me). Do I need an existing linux install as I would with Linux From Scratch ? What compiler does it use ? Does the gentoo CD come with sources for useable desktop environments such as KDE ? How long would it take to build a working system (complete with X and KDE) on a Duron 800MHz box ? Regards, Paul.

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