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Today's meeting
by jamie.french＠talk21.com 01 Dec '02

01 Dec '02

Hi Guys, Just wondering who's going to the meeting today and what is the topic? I am not sure if I am going due to the distance of the journey, I believe it is about 90 > 120 mins from Stowmarket, any1 confirm? If I don't attend hav fun and will look forward to seeing you all soon. Take Care, Jamie Best Regards, Jamie French -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com

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Epson Scanners
by BenEBoy 30 Nov '02

30 Nov '02

I nearly missed this in Linux Format today, so just in case any of you did too and haven't heard about from other sources... Epson have released the drivers / UI for their scanners again, in a more GPL friendly manner. http://www.epkowa.co.jp/english/linux_e/lsd_dwn_e.html And it works very well indeed too. All I need is to get my lexmark printer working properly (bought *just* before I decided to give linux a try) and I'll be a happy bunny -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- www.norwich-anarchists.org.uk Officially the best norwich based anarchist web site that has overly large jpegs

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Re: Gentoo
by john.seago＠dakings.fsnet.co.uk 29 Nov '02

29 Nov '02

If it was another packaging system you were looking for, as opposed to specifically wanting to install Gentoo, why not have a look at Slackware? Slackware specific packages install with pkgtool, every thing else is compled from source, (usually, > ./configure >make >make intall). Some find it difficult to begin with, but if I can manage to get it up and running, I'm sure that the vast majority of those subscribing to this list, can have a working installation in a shorter time than it takes me! -- John Seago

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Announce digest, Vol 1 #32 - 1 msg
by announce-request＠lists.alug.org.uk 29 Nov '02

29 Nov '02

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Gnome2 - Speed and Application Menu
by Steve Fosdick 27 Nov '02

27 Nov '02

Earlier today I found some Gnome 2 packages for Debian woody so I have now installed them. The first thing I notices is that Gnome 2 bucks the trend of later versions of software to be slower than their predecessors - Gnome 2 is noticably faster than Gnome 1.4. Then I discovered an interesting little problem. On my desktop machine all works correctly, but on my portable some of the items from the menu that pops up from the Gnome foot are missing, mostly those in the "Desktop Preferences" and "System Tools" categories. As both machine were configured with the same packages this seems very strange. Does anyone know where the config file and/or directory tree is for those menus in Gnome2 ?

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Re: Gnome2 - Speed and Application Menu (MJ Ray)
by tom potts 26 Nov '02

26 Nov '02

One of the major setbacks to introducing Linux is the 'lack of familiarity'. I spend my whole life rebuilding things that have been anihilated through an out of date key stroke or two or the associated hardware reconfiguration fist. One unwritten law of programs is however backward compatibility and while new releases should tend towards the accepted norms (How can we get Linux to blue screen regularly and then annex the toaster?) there should always be a 'dark age please' option for those of us who lived in them unless there is a REAL reason not to have one. Even the configuration tools should be user configurable! If there isnt one in Gnome2 think how you can use your old key setting and share that or have a polite pop at someone in the developers list. Tom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

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Re: [Alug] Mozilla 1.0 & Flash
by Alexis Lee 25 Nov '02

25 Nov '02

On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 11:35:34AM +0000, Adam Bower wrote: > Keith Watson wrote: > >I'm having problems viewing sites with Shockwave Flash graphics using > >Mozilla 1.0 running on a Debian Woody base. I've downloaded > >the latest Linux version for the Macromedia site and installed it in > >~$HOME/.mozilla/plugins but Mozilla just locks up when I try > >and load a .swf file. > > IIRC correctly there is a debian package for playing shockwave files, > try apt-cache search shockwave. Of course it may not be in Woody so you > may have to look at getting a couple of bits from testing. Try installing swf-player. It's a new package, so you'll have to get it from sid, but since it largely just bundles the mozilla plugin I'd expect it to be okay. Having said that, since it crashes rather than just not loading you may have a binary-compat issue or some other thing beyond my ken ;-) Alexis -- If you can smile when things go wrong, you have someone in mind to blame. Why isn't there an information line to ask when your lucky day is scheduled? Failure- When your best just isn't good enough.

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Mozilla 1.0 & Flash
by Keith Watson 25 Nov '02

25 Nov '02

I'm having problems viewing sites with Shockwave Flash graphics using Mozilla 1.0 running on a Debian Woody base. I've downloaded the latest Linux version for the Macromedia site and installed it in ~$HOME/.mozilla/plugins but Mozilla just locks up when I try and load a .swf file. >From what I've read it seems that this is a known problem. Before I move over to another browser, is anyone aware of any solutions or workarounds for this? Regards, Keith ____________ Live life as life lives itself. - Zen Proverb

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What is the best way to perform large downloads?
by Ian Douglas 25 Nov '02

25 Nov '02

Hi folks, I am having hassle downloading a 700MB ISO image. I tried last night and the download finished after retrieving only 490MB saying "Download Complete". I tried again this morning and it finished after retrieving only 331MB, again reporting "Download Complete". Firstly I am confused as to why both downloads finished prematurely without giving any error messages, but, secondly, I was wondering if there is a better way anyone could recommend to download this large file rather than simply clicking on it on the web page and letting Mozilla automatically handle the ftp download process as I do at present? Are there any tips and techniques more experienced ALUGers would like to share to help me download this large file successfully? Thanks, Ian. PS: Background info in case it is relevant: My PC is running Debian 3.0 with over 5GB free disk space and I am downloading over a dedicated 128kB NTL broadband link.

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Announce digest, Vol 1 #31 - 2 msgs
by announce-request＠lists.alug.org.uk 25 Nov '02

25 Nov '02

Send Announce mailing list submissions to announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to announce-request(a)lists.alug.org.uk You can reach the person managing the list at announce-admin(a)lists.alug.org.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Announce digest..." --------------.--------------------------------------------.------------ alug-announce | Newsletter of the Anglian Linux User Group | Weekly(ish) --------------'--------------------------------------------'------------ ** Please send articles for this letter to announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk ** *** Please send replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk, not announce... *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Today's Topics: 1. Fwd: [Fsfe-uk] New CLTC pages uploaded (MJ Ray) 2. Linux World comes to UK at the NEC Birmingham, Sept 2003 (MJ Ray) --__--__-- Message: 1 To: announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk From: MJ Ray <markj(a)cloaked.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 15:49:56 +0000 Subject: [Alug Announce] Fwd: [Fsfe-uk] New CLTC pages uploaded From: Paul Mobbs <mobbsey(a)gn.apc.org> Reply-To: mobbsey(a)gn.apc.org Subject: [Fsfe-uk] New CLTC pages uploaded Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:29:45 +0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, After a few months of just 'getting it right', the new web pages for the=20 Community Linux Training Centre are going up this evening. These are just the basic info - over the next few weeks we'll also try an= d get=20 the system documentation up - basically how we actually built a portable=20 network and 'Internet simulator'. Location: http://www.fraw.org.uk/cltc/ We've also been doing some travelling around the UK doing training worksh= ops=20 for public and private organisations, using the CLTc system. The 'CLTC=20 information manual', used at these workshops, form part of what's been=20 uploaded today. If anyone is interested in organising a training day with the system plea= se=20 get in touch for further details (unfortunately, we do have to charge, bu= t=20 not an awful lot). Feel free to tell friends. P. - - --=20 - - ------------------- "We are not for names, nor men, nor titles of Government, nor are we for this party nor against the other but we are for justice and mercy and truth and peace and true freedom, that these may be exalted in our nation= , and that goodness, righteousness, meekness, temperance, peace and unity with God, and with one another, that these things may abound." (Edward Burroughs, 1659 - from 'Quaker Faith and Practice') Paul Mobbs, Mobbs' Environmental Investigations, 3 Grosvenor Road, Banbury OX16 5HN, England tel./fax (+44/0)1295 261864 email - mobbsey(a)gn.apc.org website - http://www.fraw.org.uk/mobbsey.html public key - http://www.fraw.org.uk/keylist.html -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9yW2ptEaNwM05jx0RAtCzAJ45Hr3XveEiapB/3M9pxUhrU83W2QCePvsw P0L2HHWdAgy1HwGzafmFofg=3D =3DiKit -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Fsfe-uk mailing list Fsfe-uk(a)gnu.org http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/fsfe-uk --__--__-- Message: 2 From: MJ Ray <markj(a)cloaked.freeserve.co.uk> To: announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 22:00:08 +0000 Subject: [Alug Announce] Linux World comes to UK at the NEC Birmingham, Sept 2003 For more advance warning of this 3-4 Sept 2003 event, see the organiser's announcement at http://www.necgroup.co.uk/more/?m=linux -- MJR --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Announce mailing list Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce End of Announce Digest

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 25 Nov '02

25 Nov '02

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.alug.org.uk in the #alug channel. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server irc.alug.org.uk" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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Test
by Keith Watson 23 Nov '02

23 Nov '02

Testing - please ignore. Keith

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Next meeting
by w0037109 22 Nov '02

22 Nov '02

When is the next ALUG meeting? I'm interested in Linux Lectures and I'm @ UEA Tim Neobard ------------- w0037109 SYS3 MSN:fallscrape@hotmail.com Tel: http://www.far2much.info 01603 492495 ICQ:63488574

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Re: [Alug] Diff SAMBA problem...
by MJ Ray 22 Nov '02

22 Nov '02

> > Please don't. http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ > This is a very useful reference, but it really only talks about standard > system files and directories, not about user areas. Indeed, but one suggestion was under /usr/share, which is mentioned in this document, so I thought it worth mentioning. Anyway, I doubt many people would think /usr/X11R6/lib was a good place for it ;-) -- MJR

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Diff SAMBA problem...
by Ricardo Campos 21 Nov '02

21 Nov '02

OK, I think that my previous problems were due to /home/ricardo not having the correct permissions. What is the easiest way to set up a shared dir on a linux box? where should I put it... in /home/ or /usr/share/ . If I want it available for all users to read/write to, what permissions do I need? They shouldn't need to execute programs from it, but must be able to play .avi and .mp3s from it. This dir should be available to local users running linux, as well as Windoze users over the network. TIA Ricardo

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Re: [Alug] Welcome to Linux sessions
by chards＠cix.co.uk 20 Nov '02

20 Nov '02

I'm interested in these too, depending on time and place. Colin

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Re. the Welcome to Linux sessions
by D Rothe 20 Nov '02

20 Nov '02

> Jenny_Hopkins wrote: > Re. the Welcome to Linux sessions: > http://linuxclub.il.eu.org/newcomers/timetable.html > I wonder how many would turn up to the lectures? - it would be quite a lot > of work and preparation if no-one were to show up. Wouldn't it basically > mean just making the meetings more organised - we already have the meeting, > the website advertising them, and informal talks. I think the lectures are a fantastic idea and I would definitely attend (as a relative newcomer to Linux I love the idea of having a time table of dedicated lectures where introductory Linux concepts and practices can be discussed and demonstrated; from my point of view this is far preferable to informal talks) I would be very happy to help with the meeting preparations. David

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Re: re-partitioning a hard disk
by David Crease 19 Nov '02

19 Nov '02

Steve Fosdick wrote: > One possibility would simply be permissions on the /dev/hda device file > - you are running fdisk and/or cfdisk as root aren't you? Thanks for the quick response Steve. That was the problem. I was so keenly observing the adage of "do not take the name of root in vain" that I had overlooked the need to be root to do serious stuff to the system. I managed to get there by myself at just about the time that you posted. I am using the new partition to creat a Linux from Scratch system. Has anyone experience of this? Dave Crease

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RE: [Alug] install not recognising scsi hd controller
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 19 Nov '02

19 Nov '02

I wrote: >> Compaq has an embedded scsi hard disk controller, which the install can't >> detect. Keith Watson wrote: >What you have to do is add some parameters to the boot command. Thanks Keith. In fact it was more of a "oh my god, what a twat" moment again, as I see the boot option for scsi devices is there in front of me on the debian disk - >boot compact At least I've found out what one is now, with trawling about google and howto's for a morning. Ta, Jen

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install not recognising scsi hd controller
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 19 Nov '02

19 Nov '02

Hi list Idiotic question of the day. I'm trying to install debian woody onto a compaq proliant 1600, but it is falling over at the first stage of trying to recognise the hard drive. Compaq has an embedded scsi hard disk controller, which the install can't detect. Do I need to install modules from a floppy to take care of this? Thanks, Jen.

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modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-6
by Keith Watson 18 Nov '02

18 Nov '02

I'm getting this message when I boot my system. I think device char-major-6 is a printer attached via the parallel port (Is this correct?), which I don't have, mine is attached via USB and works fine. I presume modprobe is looking for a module and not finding it, I've read up on modprobe, et. al. but am none the wiser. Just as an aside I've recently rebuilt the kernel and decided to have everything built in rather than as modules. The configuration is specific to my system (single user, dial-up networking only) and the kernel is small enough that having bits of the kernel as loadable modules doesn't give me much. Is this a problem or can I safely ignore it? Being somewhat anally retentive it irks me that it's appearing, can I get rid of the message and how? Regards, Keith ____________ TWICE, adv. Once too often. Ambrose Bierce - The Devil's Dictionary

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Re: [Alug] Weekly IRC reminder
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 18 Nov '02

18 Nov '02

BT have, unbelievably, still not managed to come and fix our phone line after the storms three weeks ago, so if someone could woffle about motorbikes for at least ten minutes, then ask a few idiotic questions about linux in my place, I would be most grateful. Jen.

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 18 Nov '02

18 Nov '02

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Problems with messages to Alug
by John Seago 17 Nov '02

17 Nov '02

My Son-in-law, Chris Drane, has been unable to get messages to the main list. Is this a problem due to his having changed ISP? -- John Seago

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re-partitioning a hard disk
by David Crease 16 Nov '02

16 Nov '02

Hello, I've been running a dual boot system (Win98 & Linux RedHat) for a couple of years. The system has a single hdd of 30Gb which I partitioned using FIPS when I installed Linux. I created two partitions for the Linux, one small for boot and one other, totalling about 5Gb. The Windows partition has never used more than 7 of the 25ish Gb allocated to it and I thought it would be a good idea to claim more for Linux use. Accordingly I ran FIPS this afternoon and created another 5Gb partition. Everything seems to function well with the original Windows and Linux partitions but when I tried to run cfdisk in Linux to format the new partition I got a fatal error. I tried fdisk and got something similar. They were unable to open hda. A careful re-reading of the FIPS documentation drew my attention to the following sentence :- "If you want to use the new partition under Linux, you may now change the system indicator byte with Linux' fdisk, then use MKFS." Clearly I cannot do that since fdisk and his brother will not run. Can I change the system indicator byte by editing a file, and if so will this get (c)fdisk working? Is there another route to formatting and pressing the new partition into service? Have I missed something very elementary? Should I go back to the abacus and master that before playing with big boys toys? On another but obviously not unrelated matter. I am very much in favour of some form of structured introduction to Linux and its many facets as proposed in recent communications to this list. I say that as one who is not an IT professional but a casual user. I am strongly attracted to the Free Software movement on philosophical grounds and because it provides an alternative to the highly unpalatable antics of the major players in the SOHO* industry. The rapid development of Linux is both exciting and overwhelming for people such as myself, and I suspect that it is people such as myself who will need to feel that Linux is not only a good thing but a straight forward thing to use, before it provides a major challenge to the present giants of the industry. But more of than anon if anyone wishes to pursue the matter with a mere foot soldier. The important thing is my poor marooned partition. Cheers Dave Crease PS * Isn't it odd how time changes the meaning of words. In the 1960s the anything related to SOHO was not for discussion in polite company! D

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