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install not recognising scsi hd controller
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 19 Nov '02

19 Nov '02

Hi list Idiotic question of the day. I'm trying to install debian woody onto a compaq proliant 1600, but it is falling over at the first stage of trying to recognise the hard drive. Compaq has an embedded scsi hard disk controller, which the install can't detect. Do I need to install modules from a floppy to take care of this? Thanks, Jen.

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modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-6
by Keith Watson 18 Nov '02

18 Nov '02

I'm getting this message when I boot my system. I think device char-major-6 is a printer attached via the parallel port (Is this correct?), which I don't have, mine is attached via USB and works fine. I presume modprobe is looking for a module and not finding it, I've read up on modprobe, et. al. but am none the wiser. Just as an aside I've recently rebuilt the kernel and decided to have everything built in rather than as modules. The configuration is specific to my system (single user, dial-up networking only) and the kernel is small enough that having bits of the kernel as loadable modules doesn't give me much. Is this a problem or can I safely ignore it? Being somewhat anally retentive it irks me that it's appearing, can I get rid of the message and how? Regards, Keith ____________ TWICE, adv. Once too often. Ambrose Bierce - The Devil's Dictionary

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Re: [Alug] Weekly IRC reminder
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 18 Nov '02

18 Nov '02

BT have, unbelievably, still not managed to come and fix our phone line after the storms three weeks ago, so if someone could woffle about motorbikes for at least ten minutes, then ask a few idiotic questions about linux in my place, I would be most grateful. Jen.

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 18 Nov '02

18 Nov '02

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.alug.org.uk in the #alug channel. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server irc.alug.org.uk" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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Problems with messages to Alug
by John Seago 17 Nov '02

17 Nov '02

My Son-in-law, Chris Drane, has been unable to get messages to the main list. Is this a problem due to his having changed ISP? -- John Seago

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re-partitioning a hard disk
by David Crease 16 Nov '02

16 Nov '02

Hello, I've been running a dual boot system (Win98 & Linux RedHat) for a couple of years. The system has a single hdd of 30Gb which I partitioned using FIPS when I installed Linux. I created two partitions for the Linux, one small for boot and one other, totalling about 5Gb. The Windows partition has never used more than 7 of the 25ish Gb allocated to it and I thought it would be a good idea to claim more for Linux use. Accordingly I ran FIPS this afternoon and created another 5Gb partition. Everything seems to function well with the original Windows and Linux partitions but when I tried to run cfdisk in Linux to format the new partition I got a fatal error. I tried fdisk and got something similar. They were unable to open hda. A careful re-reading of the FIPS documentation drew my attention to the following sentence :- "If you want to use the new partition under Linux, you may now change the system indicator byte with Linux' fdisk, then use MKFS." Clearly I cannot do that since fdisk and his brother will not run. Can I change the system indicator byte by editing a file, and if so will this get (c)fdisk working? Is there another route to formatting and pressing the new partition into service? Have I missed something very elementary? Should I go back to the abacus and master that before playing with big boys toys? On another but obviously not unrelated matter. I am very much in favour of some form of structured introduction to Linux and its many facets as proposed in recent communications to this list. I say that as one who is not an IT professional but a casual user. I am strongly attracted to the Free Software movement on philosophical grounds and because it provides an alternative to the highly unpalatable antics of the major players in the SOHO* industry. The rapid development of Linux is both exciting and overwhelming for people such as myself, and I suspect that it is people such as myself who will need to feel that Linux is not only a good thing but a straight forward thing to use, before it provides a major challenge to the present giants of the industry. But more of than anon if anyone wishes to pursue the matter with a mere foot soldier. The important thing is my poor marooned partition. Cheers Dave Crease PS * Isn't it odd how time changes the meaning of words. In the 1960s the anything related to SOHO was not for discussion in polite company! D

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Welcome to Linux sessions
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 16 Nov '02

16 Nov '02

MJRay wrote: >The next meeting is pencilled in for King's Lynn on 1 December, if that's OK >for people? After Christmas, I'd like to try to run "Welcome to Linux" >sessions, but there's no replies to the thread on the main list yet... 1 Dec is fine for me. Will it be in the same venue as last time? Is it okay to bring kit? Re. the Welcome to Linux sessions: http://linuxclub.il.eu.org/newcomers/timetable.html I wonder how many would turn up to the lectures? - it would be quite a lot of work and preparation if no-one were to show up. Wouldn't it basically mean just making the meetings more organised - we already have the meeting, the website advertising them, and informal talks. Jenny.

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Re: [Alug] Synergy?
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 16 Nov '02

16 Nov '02

Keith Watson wrote: >Anyone on the list ever used Synergy < http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/doc-user.html> ? I've just read a short >write up <URL tba - >sorry> on it and it looks interesting. I've just installed this and am impressing people with the mouse moving from one screen to the other. I'm not entirely sure of its usefulness in daily life, I'll let you know if I have a "eureka, how did I live without this!" moment. My brother uses x2vnc, which is a similar project, and says it is the cat's bollocks; one keyboard, one mouse, and copy & paste between computers. Jenny.

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psDoom - kill processes via Doom
by Ashley T. Howes PhD 16 Nov '02

16 Nov '02

Just read about using Doom as a user interface to killing processes on your Linux box, and thought I would share this cool app with the group. Check it out at: http://psdoom.sourceforge.net Note: * wounding a process monster is equivalent to renicing it * keep shooting and you will kill the process Hmm, I wonder what the affect of the BFG as root would have ;) -- Ashley T. Howes Ph.D. http://www.ashleyhowes.com "When all the animals of this world are gone, man will die of loneliness"

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Saving /var/log/dmesg
by Paul 16 Nov '02

16 Nov '02

Hi Folks Having fun and games here trying to track down a bug that is causing my kernel to crash and do a cold boot. Much of the information I need is in the /var/log/dmesg (oops reports, etc), but this is overwritten on the next boot - Question: Is there any way of saving an old dmesg log at the next boot ? I've tried adding a "mv -f /var/log/dmesg /var/log/old-dmesg" to the end of rc.sysinit, but it copies the current dmesg log. Regards, Paul.

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LF January 2002
by John Sherman 15 Nov '02

15 Nov '02

Thanks to Ian,Syd and Adam for your replies will contact you soon with details or to let you know if I have obtained a copy Kind Regards John

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Samba 2.2.3a-6 not showing files
by N3tw0rkAng31B0y 14 Nov '02

14 Nov '02

I have a local guest account called winguest. winguest has a password via linux passwd and smbpasswd. I wish to share a directory called /home/ricardo/mp3 , and all the files and directories below it. At first, the directories and files were owned by ricardo, group ricardo and chmod'd 700. So... I created a group called winguest, added my normal linux user to it, and also the winguest account. I: chgrp -R winguest mp3/ chmod -R 770 mp3/ I can "see" the shares using gnomba on the local machine, but they are empty (i.e. reports as 0 files). The appropriate lines in my smb.conf are: [mp3] comment = mp3 files writable = yes path = /home/ricardo/mp3/ public = yes I suspect I have done something silly with file permissions, because in the /var/log/samba/log.pixiedust file (pixiedust being the samba server) I have: [2002/11/14 17:13:35, 0] smbd/service.c:make_connection(589) pixiedust (192.168.0.2) Can't change directory to /home/ricardo/mp3 (Permission denied) Using gnomba on my laptop, I get a different problem. When trying to access these files I get the following error: mounted on:>/tmp/PIXIEDUST_mp3< Gnome-Message: gnome_execute_async_with_env_fds: returning -1 There is no mention of the laptop being denied access in log.pixiedust. Any ideas?

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Linux Format January 2002 DVD
by John Sherman 13 Nov '02

13 Nov '02

Hi Has anyone an original copy of this DVD for sale as it is no longer available as a back issue. Thanks in hope John

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cuckoo's egg book loan
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 13 Nov '02

13 Nov '02

Hi list, I lent my copy of Cuckoo's Egg to someone at an alug meeting a while back, but can't remember who. Could you mail me off-list if you have it gathering dust on your shelf? Thanks, Jenny.

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Fwd: 88Mhz an' still chuggin via Syleham
by MJ Ray 13 Nov '02

13 Nov '02

Sent to wrong address. Please use main(a)lists.alug.org.uk Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 07:46:06 GMT From: fluff <fluff(a)zetnet.co.uk> Subject: 88Mhz an' still chuggin via Syleham Dear Egg Spurts - herewith the Debian3 installation saga, Episode 97. Despite successful restrarts with lilo/linux s/dselect/install, the process seems to fail when it gets to the request to acces the web to get the ibm.jdk files. I respond "no+return" but get the same loop. I have d/l the tgz files and burned to CD but can't get install process to look at cd-rom and since system doesn't seem to look at cd-rom, can't copy tgz file to /tmp! Have I invented perpetual emotion? Or as Chef Fourwalls says, "If we 'ad some eggs, we could have eggs and bacon, if we had some bacon." All help gratefully received -- David White in Norfolk, UK surrounding the Suffolk peninsula ô¿ô Zippily created with Zimacs 2.14

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New to linux
by D & C Cooper 13 Nov '02

13 Nov '02

Why I'm getting involved in linux: It looks fun. It looks like it works better than WinXX whatever. It looks like WinXX whatever is only going to get worse! Dave Cooper

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Greetings!
by Steve Engledow 11 Nov '02

11 Nov '02

Hello again, Further to my previous post, I would like to make it obvious that I do not dislike Norwich Union or my job. I just like the word crappy. (Might have been the bad weather too) I thank you. *bows* Steve

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 11 Nov '02

11 Nov '02

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.alug.org.uk in the #alug channel. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server irc.alug.org.uk" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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Greetings!
by Steve Engledow 09 Nov '02

09 Nov '02

Hello everybody, I finally got round to joining the ALUG mailing list. Some of you might remember me from UEA (Mark, Andrew, et al). Currently doing a crappy job for crappy pay with crappy Norwich crappy Union (isn't everybody). Well, that's me done. May the source be with you. Steve.

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Announce digest, Vol 1 #30 - 2 msgs
by announce-request＠lists.alug.org.uk 09 Nov '02

09 Nov '02

Send Announce mailing list submissions to announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to announce-request(a)lists.alug.org.uk You can reach the person managing the list at announce-admin(a)lists.alug.org.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Announce digest..." --------------.--------------------------------------------.------------ alug-announce | Newsletter of the Anglian Linux User Group | Weekly(ish) --------------'--------------------------------------------'------------ ** Please send articles for this letter to announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk ** *** Please send replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk, not announce... *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Today's Topics: 1. Fwd: FSFE France enters Free Software Gaming (MJ Ray) 2. Syleham Meeting Report (MJ Ray) --__--__-- Message: 1 To: announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk From: MJ Ray <markj(a)cloaked.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 22:51:24 +0000 Subject: [Alug Announce] Fwd: FSFE France enters Free Software Gaming From: Loic Dachary <loic(a)gnu.org> Subject: FSFE France enters Free Software Gaming Reply-To: loic(a)gnu.org Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:23:38 +0100 Hi, I attached the press release published a few minutes ago. Although it only concerns a french non profit with a french company, I though you'= d be interested to hear about it. If you think appropriate to publish it=20 somewhere I would not mind, on the contrary ;-) Cheers, --- [ An online version of this release is available at http://france.fsfeurope.org/news/article2002-10-27-01.en.html ] FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Media contact: Lo=EFc Dachary, loic(a)gnu.org FSFE France enters Free Software Gaming Nevrax, the video game company releasing NeL under the GNU GPL decided to outsource the Free Software community management to FSFE France. The fifteen developers working on NeL at Nevrax will continue to operate under high pressure to meet their deadlines while FSFE France will be in charge of connecting them with the Free Software world. NeL is an essential component of any 3D games. It provides the 3D graphics engine, networking and artificial intelligence that are necessary to develop multiplayer online games. It ultimately intends to compete with high end proprietary middlewares and largely intersects with Free Software libraries such as Crystalspace or Ogre. FSFE France first became involved in the gaming field by helping with the release of Blender under the GNU GPL. "We are now working to make sure games can be produced and distributed in freedom." says Lo=EFc Dachary, FSF speaker, "Game developers who have the courage to endorse Free Software as a moral principle should know about NeL". Since it is released under the GNU GPL, it guarantees the contributors and authors that it won't be abused by proprietary software vendors. People are welcome to use NeL and build on it as long as they are willing to participate to the Free Software movement. Nevrax's engineers have been developing NeL during the past three years. The company was seduced by the Free Software philosphy and acknowledged that a service based business model is compatible with it. "We are about to release our first game based on NeL." says Daniel Miller, Nevrax CTO, "We need to rely on the FSFE France to interface between our overloaded staff and the Free Software community." Nevrax decided to move the NeL CVS tree and the mailing lists to Savannah, the development hosting facility of the GNU project, so that the Free Software community benefits from an integrated contributive environment. Those interested in improving NeL are encouraged to subscribe to the NeL mailing list. For more information please visit http://nongnu.org/projects/nel/ About FSFE France The FSFE France is a non-profit organization dedicated to all aspects of Free Software. Access to software determines who may participate in a digital society. Therefore the freedoms to use, copy, modify and redistribute software - as described in the Free Software definition - allow equal participation in the information age. Creating awareness for these issues, securing Free Software politically and legally, and giving people freedom by supporting development of Free Software are central issues of the FSFE France. About Nevrax Nevrax is a specialist in the development of massively multi-user online worlds and a fervent believer in Free Software. It currently has teams developing a leading edge Free Software technology platform called NeL, and a state of the art massively multiplayer online role-playing game called Ryzom. Details on NeL can be found at www.nevrax.org. Details on Ryzom can be found at www.ryzom.com. --=20 Loic Dachary http://www.dachary.org/ loic(a)dachary.org 12 bd Magenta http://www.senga.org/ loic(a)senga.org 75010 Paris T: 33 1 42 45 07 97 loic(a)gnu.org GPG Public Key: http://www.dachary.org/loic/gpg.txt _______________________________________________ Friends mailing list Friends(a)fsfeurope.org http://mailman.fsfeurope.org/mailman/listinfo/friends --__--__-- Message: 2 From: MJ Ray <markj(a)cloaked.freeserve.co.uk> To: announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 23:17:20 +0000 Subject: [Alug Announce] Syleham Meeting Report Well, despite my protestations, it was actually a remarkably nice day to go to Syleham, with the low autumn sun keeping us warm as we looked out over the fields from the village hall. It also dazzled us, but closing the curtains soon sorted that one out! Rather a surprisingly poor turnout (and where were you?), but quite a few pieces of kit to install, fix or experiment on and quite a lot of interesting discussion. Thanks to John, John, Colin, David and Brett for turning up. Two debian installations took place, including one "bend to fit" install onto a machine that just won't boot from CD and has a processor slow enough that the install didn't finish before the meeting... here's hoping it resumes neatly! Demonstrations of DemoLinux and Knoppix were run on a Dell Laptop. To some people's surprise, they both worked fine, although DemoLinux didn't autodetect the country it was in (should it?) and Knoppix complained bitterly about trying to start OpenOffice. Both of these CDs are available to take away now, if anyone wants them. The meeting concluded with handing out of AFFS information packs (www.affs.org.uk) the ceremonial filling of the beer glass and some coloured lights and beeping as we tried not to set off the alarms as we left. The next meeting is pencilled in for King's Lynn on 1 December, if that's OK for people? After Christmas, I'd like to try to run "Welcome to Linux" sessions, but there's no replies to the thread on the main list yet... -- MJR --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Announce mailing list Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce End of Announce Digest

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ADSL
by Jamie French 08 Nov '02

08 Nov '02

Hi Guys, I wondered if u would mind helping me out. Basically have a Smoothwall firewall, which works great but I have to reduce the number of PC's I have, being kicked out of my office for my new son. Been looking at routers in the price range of £100 > £150 but they don't seem to provide the flexibility of Smoothwall, for example the Solwise SAR 715 does not really provide true DMZ functionality. A router with a firewall, ids, port forwarding, dmz and nat functionality would be great, thus wondered what u guys use with your ADSL?? By the way, ditched BTO today after three days of no service, again. Migrating to Nildram :) Take care and thank you, Jami

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Re: A tale about Mandrake 9 and a mouse
by David Howe 08 Nov '02

08 Nov '02

I have exactly the same problem with Mandrake 8.2 downlaod edition which I am running but only when the mouse is plugged in as USB - if I plug the same mouse in the PS2 port it doesn't happen. I have no idea why and desite paying money to join the spectacularly useless Mandrake Club thing for extra support nobody has come up with an answer yet. Dave

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mail@remartincomms.co.uk
by John Woodard 07 Nov '02

07 Nov '02

test

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hdds.
by Craig 07 Nov '02

07 Nov '02

On the same request someone else mentioned.. I need a spare hdd as well! 2gig to 4 gigs please! This 540mb is getting really bad on the router!! -- (o_ .----------------------------------------. //\ | Craig Butcher | http://www.wizball.co.uk| V_/_ | - Using Gentoo GNU/Linux - | `----------------------------------------'

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Any Spare Hard Drives....
by mtm＠sys.uea.ac.uk 07 Nov '02

07 Nov '02

I'm after a smallish (4-6 Gb), cheap hard drive. Anybody got one gathering dust that they could part with? Ideally Norwich area. -- >==============================================================< Michael Morton | Need a job! School of Information | (pretty please) Systems, University | http://www.sys.uea.ac.uk/~mtm/work of East Anglia, Norwich | >==============================================================<

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