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Announce digest, Vol 1 #23 - 3 msgs
by announce-request＠lists.alug.org.uk 23 Aug '02

23 Aug '02

Send Announce mailing list submissions to announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to announce-request(a)lists.alug.org.uk You can reach the person managing the list at announce-admin(a)lists.alug.org.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Announce digest..." --------------.--------------------------------------------.------------ alug-announce | Newsletter of the Anglian Linux User Group | Weekly(ish) --------------'--------------------------------------------'------------ ** Please send articles for this letter to announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk ** *** Please send replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk, not announce... *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Today's Topics: 1. Fwd: [Announcement] GLLUG - The Greater London Linux User Group (UK) - Meeting - 14th September (MJ Ray) 2. Fwd: [lugmaster] Embedded Linux Seminar (was Fwd: RE: UK Linux User Groups Contact Form) (MJ Ray) 3. Fwd: GNU Pins available again (MJ Ray) --__--__-- Message: 1 To: announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk From: MJ Ray <markj(a)cloaked.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 11:24:27 +0100 Subject: [Alug Announce] Fwd: [Announcement] GLLUG - The Greater London Linux User Group (UK) - Meeting - 14th September Potentially of interest to those in the south of the region. From: Colin Murphy <SpudULike(a)-blueyonder.co.uk> Subject: [Announcement] GLLUG - The Greater London Linux User Group (UK) - Meeting - 14th September Date: 12 Aug 2002 23:10:58 GMT That is right, your eyes do not deceive you, The Greater London Linux User Group is, at long last, going to have another meeting. The date for your diaries is Saturday 14th September 2002, 12noon until 5pm. Doubtless to say, there will also be a session in some pub afterwards, should you not be able to make it during the day. We will be meeting in the New Cavendish Street campus of Westminster University, this is in the shadow of the BT Tower, nearest tube stations are Great Portland Street and Goodge Street. You will find a map at [ http://www.wmin.ac.uk/static/maps.asp ] For this meeting, and all the future meetings, we have the use of the Universities 'large' lecture theatre, the network lab and the Multimedia lab. The large lecture theatre - Hopefully you will appreciate the use of this larger lecture theatre. For those that went last time, your comments and criticisms were justified about the smaller theatre being too small. We are still finalising the details of the talks, so these will be posted to the web site soon, <http://gllug.linux.co.uk>. The network lab - We will use the network lab, this month, for rolling demo installations. The multimedia room - This will be used as a chat area, away from the lectures. There are monitors, desks and power, so people are welcome to set up their own equipment here if they want. Hopefully we will have some BoaF groups form here. ******************************************** The GLLUG website, you remember - it's at http://gllug.linux.co.uk, has had a revamp. Do make sure you have a look, pass on your comments. ******************************************** The meeting after the next meet is booked for the 19th October 2002 -- Colin Murphy -SpudULike(a)blueyonder.co.uk --__--__-- Message: 2 To: announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk From: MJ Ray <markj(a)cloaked.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 12:08:06 +0100 Subject: [Alug Announce] Fwd: [lugmaster] Embedded Linux Seminar (was Fwd: RE: UK Linux User Groups Contact Form) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 07:52:14 +0100 From: "Mark Lewis" <mark(a)lug.org.uk> Subject: [lugmaster] Embedded Linux Seminar (was Fwd: RE: UK Linux User Groups Contact Form) hi all, long time no speak..... fiona has asked me to email this..... regards, mark *********** BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE *********** On 15/08/2002 at 14:19 fiona(a)feabhas.com <fiona(a)feabhas.com> wrote: >Hi Mark > >That would be great if you could pass it on to other Linux users. Is there >a problem with the email links on that site as I have had a couple of mails >returned. > >Seminar details > >We are holding the first Embedded Linux Seminar in the UK at the Madjeski >Stadium, Reading, Berks. Date: 31st October 02. At the moment we are >looking for anyone who may be interested in participating either speaking, >giving a paper and/or exhibiting. > >The day will comprise of various presentations and papers covering memory >and processor requirements; what "real-time" Linux is and is not; what >"small" Linux really means combined with a tabletop exhibition of various >embedded Linux environments and supporting tools. The cost of a tabletop is >£250.00, inclusive of 2 personnel, (no charge for speakers). Cost for >attendees is £65.00 and includes lunch and refreshments throughout the day. > >We have had a good response to the call for speakers and we have on board >Windriver, Hardhat, Toshiba, Microsoft, Allied Microsystems Corp, and >Xilinx to name but a few with many other interested parties. > >We do not have a direct UML link but if you go to our web www.feabhas.com, >it is headline news. > >Hope this helps. > >Best regards > >Fiona --__--__-- Message: 3 To: announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk From: MJ Ray <markj(a)cloaked.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 17:59:31 +0100 Subject: [Alug Announce] Fwd: GNU Pins available again Subject: GNU Pins available again From: "Georg C. F. Greve" <greve(a)fsfeurope.org> Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 15:52:54 +0200 Hi all, just a quick note for those who were unsuccessful in obtaining their "A GNU Head" Pin [1] (demand had briefly exceeded our supply): The new GNU Pins arrived! Just like the 2002 line of t-shirts, namely GNU Hurd * Yellow Hurd-spiral on black t-shirt. FSF Europe 2002 * Small FSF Europe logo pocket print on front, Back in three varieties: Plain GPL Preamble Large FSF Europe Logo ("Crew style") Available colors: Black and Ashe. they can be ordered at the FSF Europe office in Essen by email to office(a)fsfeurope.org or through fax to +49-201-860 42 81. Regards, Georg P.S. Prices are EUR 1.50,- for the pins, EUR 15,- for the t-shirts plus shipping (and potentially fees for "Nachname" in Germany). [1] http://www.gnu.org/graphics/agnuhead.html _______________________________________________ Discussion mailing list Discussion(a)fsfeurope.org https://mailman.fsfeurope.org/mailman/listinfo/discussion --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Announce mailing list Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce End of Announce Digest

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sed question
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 22 Aug '02

22 Aug '02

Hi all, Can anyone give me a hint as to why "sed s/word1/word2/g filename" displays the file 'filename' with word2 in place of word1 but the change isn't made permanent? Thanks, Jen

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Mandrake giveaway
by Malcolm Locke 22 Aug '02

22 Aug '02

I noticed the following being thrown out of the office adjacent to ours and, whilst I don't have use for them myself, figured I could find a worthy home for them. All are boxed and un-opened, and most appear to contain manuals. 5 x ProSuite edition 8.2 (8 CD's + 1 DVD) 3 x Standard edition 8.2 (3 CD's) 2 x Standard edition 8.1 (3 CD's) 1 x ProSuite edition 8.1 (9 CD's + 1 DVD) 1 x Power pack edition 8.1 (7 CD's) 1 x Standard edition 8.0 (3 CD's) If anyone would like to collect these from me near Sudbury and distribute them at the next meeting, or if anyone can suggest another worthy cause in the region, please let me know. Malcolm Locke

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RE: [Alug] Anybody using vnc?
by peter.salmon＠ipswich.gov.uk 22 Aug '02

22 Aug '02

##################################################################################### This email and any attachments may be confidential and/or privileged. Everything is intended for use of the addressee only. If you receive this message in error then you must not print it or pass it on to anyone else or use the information it contains. Please inform Ipswich Borough Council of the error by email or by telephoning (+44)(0)1473 432000. Please then delete all copies from your system. If you are not the intended recipient then you must not use the information in the message or attachments or allow anyone else to do so. Ipswich Borough Council reserves the right to copy and intercept all email and other data sent over its networks. Ipswich Borough Council cannot guarantee that this message has reached you complete and/or virus free and advises you to carry out appropriate virus checks. The Council does not accept any liability for any statements made which are clearly the sender's own and not made on behalf of the Council. ##################################################################################### From: John Woodard <mail(a)johnwoodard.co.uk> To: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 13:09:45 +0100 Subject: [Alug] Anybody using vnc? Is anybody using vnc? How do you set which window manager the server uses? -- Cheers, BJ A good webpage that explains a lot is: http://www.dit.gov.bt/~takeshi/material/linux/config/vnc-3.3.3r2_x86_linux_2 .0.html Regards, Peter Salmon Ipswich Borough Council Information Technology Room 1005 Civic Centre Civic Drive Ipswich Suffolk IP1 2EE United Kingdom * +44 (0)1473 433220 (Direct) (Internal ext 3220) Fax: +44 (0)1473 433898 * peter.salmon(a)ipswich.gov.uk <mailto:peter.salmon@ipswich.gov.uk>

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Re: [Alug] UEA, Norwich on the 1st September?
by Alexis Lee 21 Aug '02

21 Aug '02

> On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 01:22:45PM +0100, Alexis Lee wrote: > > I fancy a meeting on the 1st September. Not least so I can get my > > rustlefustlegrastlefstin GPG key signed. Hi people, (Well I assume you're all people...) Unfortunately, Room Bookings have all gone on holiday so the Conference Office are dealing with their work. This means booking Nelson Court Common Room B (which doesn't even have net access) would cost £157 for a day. So, I'm afraid that's the 1st Sept shot in the b*ks. I'll try and get a room when term starts. Alexis -- Sometimes the blind man sees clearest. Confidence is the feeling you get before you understand the problem. "I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have" - T Jefferson

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Anybody using vnc?
by John Woodard 21 Aug '02

21 Aug '02

Is anybody using vnc? How do you set which window manager the server uses? -- Cheers, BJ

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Re: [Alug] Anybody using vnc?
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 21 Aug '02

21 Aug '02

John Woodard wrote: >Is anybody using vnc? How do you set which window manager the server uses? I'm using vnc on windows box to view linux screen: had to install xvncserver, then access it using "run vncviewer" from windows, entering port [ipaddress]:1 - am prompted for password then it brings up screen using blackbox. How it works is a mystery to me, as I haven't done anything to the /etc/vnc.conf file at all. Doubt this helps, as always! Jenny.

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using the Xmono server
by Glen Tyler 21 Aug '02

21 Aug '02

I have a small i486 with a black and white screen. For obvious reasons I want to use the mono server in my xconfiguration, but I cannot seem to get it to work. The machine is running RH6.0 (thanks to who sent me the disc -Craig I think, but not sure), during install it always loads the SVGA server, due to the card definition (Cirrus Logic GD5422). However editing the X11 config file to remove all the screens that use the SVGA and VGA16 server result in the error - failure to connect to X server. I have Xmono installed. The reason I need the mono server is that under the lynx browser I cant see any of the links as the display is using a bpp depth of 8. any ideas? by the way I managed to get the LXF slackware 8.1 disc to install on my 486 with 16MB ram - now that is a distro! Glen

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RE: Project Managers
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 20 Aug '02

20 Aug '02

Keith Watson wrote: >Was this the sort of thing you were after? > >GRAN PM 1.6 >http://freshmeat.net/releases/93584/ Keith, that's the kind of thing, but I want it web-based as in on my own system. Shoot me if I'm wrong, but that one looks as if they hold your data and you access it via the internet. Thanks for the link, though. Keep them coming! I thought of writing my own but I doubt that will be happening in a hurry,as this week I appear to have the brain of an aphid. Jenny.

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Sendmail, Milter, Spamassasin and Sophpos.
by Douglas Willis 20 Aug '02

20 Aug '02

Has anyone implemented a mail scanning and spam filtering gateway using sendmail, milter? If so what were your mail issues? -- Douglas Willis (ddw(a)nerc-bas.ac.uk) British Antarctic Survey High Cross, Madingley Road Cambridge, CB3 0ET, United Kingdom tel: +44 1223 221400, fax: +44 1223 362616

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RE: Project Managers
by Keith Watson 20 Aug '02

20 Aug '02

Was this the sort of thing you were after? GRAN PM 1.6 http://freshmeat.net/releases/93584/ GRAN PM is Web-based project management software, which includes a task management system, bug tracking software, and employee timesheet tracking. It makes it easy to identify program bugs and enhancements, identify important items that need to be brought to the attention of management, detect resource conflicts and scheduling problems, and provide clear reports on the status of all projects and tasks. Keith ____________ Since it is no part of the words we unthinkingly use, it leaves no trace in the things we say. Dogen

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OEone's Linux desktop experiment enters a new phase
by Keith Watson 20 Aug '02

20 Aug '02

Although it's not strictly GPL, an interesting bit of software if only because they're trying to break out of the Windows/Mac model. I'm not that sure they've succeeded. See this newsforge article: <http://newsforge.com/newsforge/02/08/11/2231241.shtml?tid=26> Keith ____________ Do not fear the arising of thoughts - only be concerned lest your awareness of them be tardy. Zen Saying

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Re: [Alug] Debian CDs
by NuTTeR -- Not Entered -- 20 Aug '02

20 Aug '02

>I have Woody and DemoLinux CDs images, but no burner at present. When I >do, >I can also do blanks+postage-price distribution for ALUGgers. Taking a few >CDs to meetings is a good idea. There's always some willing victim^Wuser. >MJR I dont mind who dose them but im quite happy to pay or supply the media(cd'z) for a copy of debian 3.0. I Would like the first few(or all cds :-) as i dont ever get a internet connection on my Linux PC. Oh and if any1 will do the debian hurd on cd ill be even happyer :). It'll have to be at a meeting due to my lack of trust for the mail system(last debian cd i was sent got mashed up in the post). Dennis -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://www.graffiti.net Powered by Outblaze

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lm_sensors, sensord and temperatures
by bsamuels＠beenthere-donethat.org.uk 19 Aug '02

19 Aug '02

I have, at last, managed to get lm_sensors working on my Tyan Thunder K7 dual processor board and I am monitoring the results with Gkrellm. This gives me two levels of warning. (1) Chips are getting hot - sound the alarm and (2) Turn the thing off before it cooks. Can anyone tell me what temperature values I should set for these and ditto for the chassis temperature? As I have also managed to get this machine to turn itself off after shutting down (shutdown -h now) I can also set Gkrellm to activate this at the higher temperature of the two levels. I can also run sensord to log temperature levels but have had to disable it because it keeps logging a chassis intrusion detection alarm. Although the board has a header for this it is not connected. Anyone know a way of disabling this? Many thanks Barry Samuels

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Re: [Alug] sed question
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 19 Aug '02

19 Aug '02

Many people wrote: >Safety feature! > >sed s/word1/word2/g filename > filename.with-alterations Aaaaah! Thanks, all. Much obliged! Jenny.

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E-Mail Chess
by Keith Watson 19 Aug '02

19 Aug '02

Are there any chess players out there? I'm looking for software that supports the playing of chess games via e-mail. There's quite a list on Sourceforge and Freshmeat. Any feedback on the relative merits or personal experiences of chess software for GNU/Linux would be appreciated. Keith ____________ The beginning of wisdom is calling things by their right names. Chinese Proverb

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Linux Standard Base Specification
by Keith Watson 19 Aug '02

19 Aug '02

I've just been reading a Newsforge article about the above <http://newsvac.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=02/08/16/1952202> and wondered if anyone has taken the time to read through the formal specification for the above? It seems a great idea but I found the volume of input a bit overwhelming. It there a "LSB for Dummies" out there somewhere? Keith ____________ Is there life before death? Zen saying

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Any old harddrives?
by Keith Watson 19 Aug '02

19 Aug '02

I'm putting together a scratch system for a friend of mine with somewhat limited means. To date I've got everything but a hard drive. Has anyone got an old 2Gb, 3Gb or similar sized hard drive going spare? (and before you ask, yes it will have GNU/Linux as one of the boot options, depending on the size of the disk, but I'm also looking at supplying a Knoppix CD) Keith ____________ This ain't no technological breakdown, this is the Road to Hell. Chris Rhea - Road To Hell

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 19 Aug '02

19 Aug '02

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.alug.org.uk in the #alug channel. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server irc.alug.org.uk" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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QEmacs, a surprising editor
by MJ Ray 16 Aug '02

16 Aug '02

I just downloaded and installed the qemacs editor. (Debian: apt-get install qemacs.) If you open an HTML file with it, it renders it and lets you edit the rendered version a bit. You can get at the source for more serious changes with M-x xml-mode, but it surprised me that a sub-200k editor contains an CSS-based HTML renderer. Amazing, eh? It also can edit utf-8 (multilingual) with a variety of input methods taken from Yudit. It's still early days for this editor (and I've filed some bugs against it), but it's quite promising and I thought I'd let you all know. QEmacs is at http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemacs/ Yudit is at http://www.yudit.org/

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Can't start Gnome-terminal with non-root user.
by Keith Watson 14 Aug '02

14 Aug '02

I finally got round to setting up another user account (other than root) on my scratch built system. Most things are working except for Gnome-terminal. It starts fine for root but crashes with a message about changes to the 2.2.x kernel and checking ptys. Given that it works fine for root I think this is a red-herring. I think this is a file permissions problem. I've scanned round the web and found a couple of hits that suggested some file permissions that need to be set. I've checked these and they are ok. Any suggestions for how I might go about tracking this down (and yes I know I could cure this by installing a 'proper' distro, but what will I learn from that? - don't answer that, it's rhetorical :o) ) ____________ BAROMETER, n. An ingenious instrument which indicates what kind of weather we are having. Ambrose Bierce - The Devil's Dictionary ____________ Hey, I found out how to get rid of all the crap our e-mail system added to the end of the message! :oD

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Announce digest, Vol 1 #22 - 4 msgs
by announce-request＠lists.alug.org.uk 13 Aug '02

13 Aug '02

Send Announce mailing list submissions to announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to announce-request(a)lists.alug.org.uk You can reach the person managing the list at announce-admin(a)lists.alug.org.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Announce digest..." --------------.--------------------------------------------.------------ alug-announce | Newsletter of the Anglian Linux User Group | Weekly(ish) --------------'--------------------------------------------'------------ ** Please send articles for this letter to announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk ** *** Please send replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk, not announce... *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Today's Topics: 1. Bletchley Park trip - 18th August? (MJ Ray) 2. In memoriam, Edsger W. Dijkstra, 1930-2002 (Keith Watson) 3. Fwd: [peterboro] Month of August and PLUG meeting (MJ Ray) 4. modem needed (Jenny Hopkins) --__--__-- Message: 1 To: announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 15:40:40 +0100 From: MJ Ray <markj(a)cloaked.freeserve.co.uk> Subject: [Alug Announce] Bletchley Park trip - 18th August? ------- Forwarded Message Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 00:35:38 +0100 From: Alasdair G Kergon <agk(a)oxlug.org> Subject: [lugmaster] FW: Bletchley Park trip - 18th August? See forwarded message below - people from other LUGs are welcome too, not just Greater London, so please circulate this! Contact Richard directly to arrange times to meet etc. Bletchley Park, including the computer museum, is well worth a visit. (Indeed you need more than one visit to take everything in.) Photos I took last time I went: http://sparky.ox.compsoc.net/~agk/Photos/Compsoc/Bletchley_Park/ [If travelling by train, be aware of the replacement buses at weekends. You want Bletchley station, a few miles South of Milton Keynes. If coming through London, you might find a combination of a travelcard with a Silverlink-only ticket from "Boundary Zone 6" to Bletchley works out cheaper than a through ticket.] Alasdair - ----- Forwarded message from Richard Cohen <richard(a)vmlinuz.org> ----- Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:01:19 +0100 (BST) From: Richard Cohen <richard(a)vmlinuz.org> Subject: [Gllug] Bletchley Park trip - 18th August? To: gllug(a)linux.co.uk Yes, I know it's short notice... For a couple of years, there have been discussions of a possible GLLUG picnic at Bletchley Park, a genuine geek pilgrimage site - all credit to John Hearnes, who's proposed and pushed the idea in the past... I'm proposing that if you're not doing anything else next Sunday (the 18th), we get together there for the GLLUG picnic '02. Why that date? Three reasons come to mind: They're having an Airbourne Forces weekend that weekend, which means paratrooper and commando displays, and a WWII overflight on the Sunday; It's the same weekend as the Picn*x11 Linux picnic (www.linuxpicnic.org) in California - if we decide on that date quickly, we should be able to get some publicity out of that; No time like the present - the weather is pretty variable at the moment, so thats no help in picking a date, and I know people will be on holiday, but at least if we pick a date, it might actually *happen* this year! Apparently there might be engineering works which would affect the trains, but barring that, I propose those who want to take the train meet at Euston at maybe 11ish on the Sunday, and those who want to go under their own steam aim to meet us there at around 12? I've called and provisionally booked us in - I can call and cancel if no-one else can make it, or if it's a silly idea, or I can call and confirm if there's going to be 10-15 people or more there. I'd want to know by, say, Tuesday next week... We can discuss it on-list, or on my Wiki (@wiki.vmlinuz.org) - if you're a confirmed yes, add your name to the BletchleyParkInterestList there. For what it's worth, I'd say families are welcome - trying to make it *slightly* less geeky :-) For anyone who doesn't know about Bletchley Park (shame on you!) there's oodles of info at www.bletchleypark.org.uk - yes, it's a pretty crappy-looking site, but remember to hold your complaining off until we get there... There would be an entrace fee of £6 (£5 concessions) and they don't do group prices :-( Let's make it happen this year! :-) Cheers Richard - -- Gllug mailing list - Gllug(a)linux.co.uk http://list.ftech.net/mailman/listinfo/gllug - ----- End forwarded message ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------- The UK Lugmaster Mailing List http://www.lug.org.uk/lugmasters/lugmaster.php - ---------------------------------------------------------------- ------- End of Forwarded Message --__--__-- Message: 2 Reply-To: <keith.watson(a)kewill.com> From: "Keith Watson" <keith.watson(a)kewill.com> To: "ALUG Announce \(E-mail\)" <announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 13:15:27 +0100 Subject: [Alug Announce] In memoriam, Edsger W. Dijkstra, 1930-2002 A bit of sad news, http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/UTCS/notices/dijkstra/ewdobit.html Regards, Keith --__--__-- Message: 3 To: announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk From: MJ Ray <markj(a)cloaked.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 22:41:08 +0100 Subject: [Alug Announce] Fwd: [peterboro] Month of August and PLUG meeting Apologies for being slow forwarding this on. Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2002 21:22:35 +0100 From: Ben Hayes <Ben(a)benhayes.uklinux.net> Subject: [peterboro] Month of August and PLUG meeting Reply-To: peterboro(a)lists.lug.org.uk I know that this is a bit early but could everyone pencil in their diaries the next PLUG meeting which will be held on 29 August at 7:30 p.m. The meeting will be held at my work location. For those who have not come before, the address is as follows: Misys Insurance Management Ltd 7 North Street Cavell Court Peterborough We are located across from the Westgate parking lot and a few doors down from Bogarts Pub. My work has free, secure parking for those who will be driving. *** You should mention that you are going on the PLUG mailing list and get Ben's phone number to get in. *** Mark (from Quarello) will be doing a talk on Apache and PHP configuration. At some point over the next next month or two, Mark will doing a talk on PHP (this is a lead up to the PHP talk). Steve Gallagher is on holiday and will not be back until the 19th of this month. I, unfortunately, will be away on training from the 12th - 25th of August (MCSE Boot Camp). If anyone needs to contact me, please give me a call on my mobile. I will give you a call back whenever I can. Cheers Ben --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 23:02:57 +0100 To: announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk From: Jenny Hopkins <jenny(a)trx850.uklinux.net> Subject: [Alug Announce] modem needed If anyone has a spare modem they would be interested in selling, please could they contact me off-list? The last thunderstorm we had here took both of mine out :-( Cheers, Jenny. --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Announce mailing list Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce End of Announce Digest

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Re: [alug social] Re: [Alug] Debian CDs
by Adam Bower 12 Aug '02

12 Aug '02

On Mon, Aug 12, 2002 at 01:02:26PM +0100, Alexis Lee wrote: > On Sun, Aug 11, 2002 at 10:51:40PM +0100, Adam Bower wrote: > > I have all 4 Hurd CDs but there is one slight problem and that is my > > CD-Burning machine just died..... but when it is working i will be > > able to start doing CDs again and things..... > > I know! > Why don't you just email them to me, then I can burn them for you! well I have dsl so i could theoretically upload them at 288 kbit/s and seeing as I downloaded them at 5 kByte/s it could be lots faster for you to get them that way as the mirror was rather slow (and based in hungary) or i could of course mail them as uunecoded in multiple mail messages to the list ;) Adam -- "Step away from the Cathedral, This Bazaar is loaded" jabberid = quinophex(a)jabber.earth.li

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Need advice for laptop install
by kmweb 12 Aug '02

12 Aug '02

Hello, I have a laptop with windows Home-XP (Which I find the most irritating of all the Windows OS's that I've ever used), the laptop has a 18 Gig disk drive. I want to repartition the drive, to keep the XP in a half the drive and install Linux on the other half. I'm not a Linux expert but want to use the laptop to get further Linux experience. In the past I have purchased various partition software manager's each time Microsoft changed something but having done that 3 times now I wonder if there is any alternative (My latest version was partition magic 4.0 which won't handle the new format NTFS that XP has been loaded with). Can anyone suggest any free software or any techniques for safely repartitioning the Laptop without reformating the existing XP partition? Thanks Karl Middleton

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RE: [Alug] Can't start Gnome-terminal with non-root user.
by Keith Watson 12 Aug '02

12 Aug '02

> From: xs(a)kittenz.org [mailto:xs@kittenz.org] on Friday, August 09, 2002 11:09 AM > > on Fri, Aug 09, 2002 at 11:07:34AM +0100, Keith Watson wrote: > > Most things are working except for Gnome-terminal. > > > > It starts fine for root but crashes with a message about > changes to the > > 2.2.x kernel and checking ptys. > > Under unices that lack a /dev/ptmx-like system of > psuedo-terminal allocation, > generally root privileges are needed to fully acquire a pty > (because it must > chown and chmod the tty device.) You may want to check you > have support for > unix98 ptys in your kernel and a /dev/ptmx. This also > requires glibc>=2.1. > I guess if you are using devfs this should not be an issue.. > I think you've put your finger on the hole in my set-up, I've just popped over to Richard Gooch's site and read the Devfs FAQ <http://www.atnf.csiro.au/~rgooch/linux/docs/devfs.html>. I think I need to regen the kernel with devfs support and implement devfs. Thanks! Keith ____________ Where does a wise man look for pebbles? On a beach. Where does the wise man hide a leaf? In a forest. G.K. Chesterton

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