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project manager
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 07 Aug '02

07 Aug '02

Hi All, Has anyone any experience with "touxdoux" project manager - still in beta stages but by all accounts sort of usable? Can anyone recommend any other web-based free project management packages for linux? Thanks, Jenny.

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Re: [Alug] Still confused...
by Ricardo Campos 06 Aug '02

06 Aug '02

> It'll do me no good to add these sites into the software manager? Nope. > In either case I'm curious, what is "Relative path to synthesis or > hdlist"? I suspect it means the path to the actual files on the sever, or maybe an index of the files contained on the server. i.e. the index to tell your computer *Where* to look for them. (actually, by RTFM'ing I see that they do indeed have index files that end in .cz on the servers). So, recap: If you want to find rpm's on the net, then use these 2 links. i.e. go to these links in your web browser, find the rpm on the web site, and download it through the web browser. www.freshrpms.net (these may/may not work with mandrake very well) www.rpmfind.net Secondly, there is the mandrake software manager, which can automatically download a list of mirror sites from which you can find RPM's. This is probably your best option. I haven't used Mandrake for almost a year now, I don't remember the exact buttons to press, but I'm sure a little time spent on it will help you find it. If not, there is excellent documentation on the Mandrake website, you may have missed the section on installing packages in the User Guide the 1st time round. e.g. http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/doc/82/en/user.html/x11454.html#AEN11465 I think all I did was to add a security update source, and that had the other rpms on it as well. Try it, it's not going to hurt! http://www.mandrakeuser.org has lots of documentation that is worth reading. Once you read the manual and understand it, all you need to do is find some mirrors with rpm packages on, although IIRC, the security update did that for me. Ricardo -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Still confused...
by Kelly Ash 06 Aug '02

06 Aug '02

Okay, still not clear. Sorry. It'll do me no good to add these sites into the software manager? In either case I'm curious, what is "Relative path to synthesis or hdlist"? Kelly On Saturday 03 Aug 2002 7:24 pm, Ricardo Campos wrote: > > I tried to add the urls you suggested....unsuccessfully. > > I meant you to browse them in a web browser, rather > than the mandrake package manager.They are separate to > it.Sorry if I was unclear.Make sure to choose the > mandrake packages, rather than a different distro's > rpm's. > > > It asks for: > > > > Type of source - http > > New source name - (whatever) > > URL - url of source > > Relative path to synthesis or hdlist - ?????? > > I don't remember where it gets the lists of archives, > IIRC it retrieved them automatically. BJ? Any help on > this? Oo er don't remember think I added it manually. I does the security updat thing for you though. Have a look on the mdk web site for a list of mirrors. -- Cheers, BJ

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Re: [Alug] Getting programs to run
by Ricardo Campos 05 Aug '02

05 Aug '02

> I tried to add the urls you suggested....unsuccessfully. I meant you to browse them in a web browser, rather than the mandrake package manager.They are separate to it.Sorry if I was unclear.Make sure to choose the mandrake packages, rather than a different distro's rpm's. > It asks for: > > Type of source - http > New source name - (whatever) > URL - url of source > Relative path to synthesis or hdlist - ?????? I don't remember where it gets the lists of archives, IIRC it retrieved them automatically. BJ? Any help on this? -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Ethernet Cards
by Ian Douglas 05 Aug '02

05 Aug '02

Most of my little network uses old 10BaseT network cards however I recently purchased a 10/100 hub and notice that the latest network cards I have ordered are also rated 10/100. I was therefore wondering a few things: Firstly, are 10MHz and 100MHz (on a 10/100 NIC) two discrete speeds or could the NIC/hub pair negotiate an intermediate speed if that is all my dodgey D.I.Y network cabling can handle? (i.e. is it possible for a 10/100 link to run at say 50MHz?) If so then is this intermediate speed negotiated only when the link is first made or will it dynamically drift higher and lower from minute to minute? Secondly, to satisfy my curiosity, I was wondering if anyone could recommend any little Linux programs which I can run in the background to dynamically monitor the speed at which my PC's network card is actually running. Thirdly I notice a couple of the latest NIC's I have ordered (3Com905CX-TX-M) are "managed" and "offer complete PC management". This has captured my imagination as I had always considered network cards to be pretty dumb, boring things. Could anyone guide me to something which could give me a crash course in remote NIC/Hub interrogation as (to me at least)(and yes, I know I need to meet more people and get a life!) this sounds quite an interesting and exciting concept. Finally, does using "managed" network cards within a network mean that my network's security is about to become non-existent? (i.e. if a hacker managed to gain access to my network but couldn't hack into my PC could he, for example, in frustration, remotely configure all my "managed" NIC's to do silly things making my network unusable?) Ian.

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 05 Aug '02

05 Aug '02

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.alug.org.uk in the #alug channel. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server irc.alug.org.uk" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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Re: [Alug] Choice of E-mail Clients + Stuff
by Ricardo Campos 04 Aug '02

04 Aug '02

> Interesting - I can't find any option for spell checking and yet one of the "suggests" dependancies on the Debian package is the apsell spell checker. Strange. IIRC (I might not!) Sylpheed doesn't have this option, but the "bleeding edge" version sylpheed-claws does. (apt-get install sylpheed-claws) Check the sylpheed homepage, it'll probably have more accurate info. Ricardo -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Does anyone want...
by Wechsler 04 Aug '02

04 Aug '02

Linux Magazines 1 (Oct 2000) ,2,3,5 ? Linux Answers Premiere Issue? Linux Format 1 (May 2000) -> 12? before they get dumped in the recycling bin. Free to anyone who'll take them - drop me a line. Wechsler

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Re: [Alug] Choice of E-mail Clients + Stuff
by Ricardo Campos 04 Aug '02

04 Aug '02

> 1) > What security precautions should I be taking now I can connect to the > internet? Can anyone recommend some useful resources I should study? Any > basic initial measures I should take? If u have a 2.4 kernel, use Gnome and want a quick and dirty firewall setup (using iptables), then I'd highly recommend firestarter. > 2) > Is it worth reviewing the PPP and IP setups with a view to optimising the > modem performance? or are any improvements likely to be marginal? Marginal. If you look through the ALUG archives, there should be some e-mails I did regarding "MTU", lowering the MTU and MSS to about 570 can improve performance, albeit marginal. You notice it with pictures etc. > 3) > Can anyone recommend some mail clients that work with Gnome? There seem to > be loads on Sourceforge and Freshmeat. Some guidance with narrowing down > the list would be most helpful. Sylpheed is my favourite for speed and simplicity. > 4) > I'd also like to migrate my existing M$ Outlook mailbox over to the new > client. Has anyone ever done this? Is it possible? Very probably, haven't done it myself tho. Maybe Evolution can do it? -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Possible Meeting Venue
by Keith Watson 03 Aug '02

03 Aug '02

'Der Management' at Kewill have given a provisional OK to ALUG using the training room here at Stalham Staithe for the odd meeting. We need to check out the insurance position but we have run similar events here in the past apparently so with luck and a fair wind.... Our training room has the usual complement of white boards and flipcharts plus we can borrow an OHP and a display projector if required. It's quite large and can take up to 30-40 people (but 20 is comfortable). There is internet access available. Tea/Coffee facilities are also available on site. The Swan and the Maid's Head in Stalham are within about 5 minutes walk So... is this of any interest? Regards, Keith ____________ A ship in the harbour is safe... but that's not what ships were made for. ____________ PS. sorry about all this crap but it's added by the corporate e-mail system. Senior Analyst - Kewill Systems, E-Commerce Division Tel: +44 (0)1692 583735 Tel(S/Board): +44 (0)1692 582720 Fax: +44 (0)1692 581017 Email: mailto:Keith.Watson@kewill.com Web site: http://www.kewill.com This email and any files transmitted with it is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Kewill Systems plc. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager.

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Re: Using NTL Broadband with Linux (Ian Douglas)
by David Howe 03 Aug '02

03 Aug '02

> It might be worth digging a bit deeper into the > 'contract' > The reason why they dont like you to use Linux is > becaus Linux tends to use Masquerading rather than the > Proxy that is common with W$. NO, accoring to the Telewest Blueyonder installer (who was a cool techy not just a jobsworth) that installed mine its because Microsoft own 26% of NTL and therefore just "don't support" Linux. http://www.xciv.org/byhsi/ is a handy link too >> I think the sales rep said they currently recommend "Terayon TeraJet >> 21= > 0" >> cable modems. NTL provide you with a Motorola Surfboard cable modem - this is a good thing if you're technically minded becuase there are plenty of resources on the net to tell you how to get a little more than you're paying for out of your modem (I know a 15 year old kid in Essex on NTL getting 2GB) but of course this is not something I would condone ;) I myself have Telewest Blueyonder connected to an old piece of junk 133MHz Intel running as a smoothwall router www.smoothwall.org - I let the installer set up on a pc with windows on it then transferred the NIC to the crappy box and installed smoothwall to maintain the MAC address. Best regards, Dave

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24/7 dialup access
by Ashley 03 Aug '02

03 Aug '02

I have at last decided to change from metered dialup access to unmetered. Can anyone recommend a good isp with reliable connection, no engaged tones, etc. I'm using pipex atm, which have given me very few problems, but with the problems of their parent company Worldcom... -- Ashley T. Howes Ph.D. http://www.ashleyhowes.com "When all the animals of this world are gone, man will die of loneliness"

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Re: [Alug] Using NTL Broadband with Linux
by Laurie Brown 03 Aug '02

03 Aug '02

Ian Douglas wrote: > > I currently have a spare hard disk with windoze already installed on it > which I can temporarily put in the firewall PC for the registration process. That'll work... It will make things simpler. > I think the sales rep said they currently recommend "Terayon TeraJet 210" > cable modems. I know nothing about those. You'd better be sure they do RJ45! > Found the DHCP Mini-HowTo. Will print it out and start reading it later > today. DHCP is easy, frankly. The firewall needs to run dhcpcd (the client) to talk to NTL. My IP address has only changed once in more than a year. One of the good things about dhcpcd is it polls NTL every 3 hours and renews the lease so it never expires. > The NTL sales rep eagerly rang back last night, still as clueless as before, > but this time he offered me free installation if I signed up there and then > so I went ahead and booked it up for 14 August. From what I could gather > all the engineer will do is install a cable modem socket, give me a list of > companies from whom I can obtain a modem, then disappear out of the door. > If I want him to bring a modem with him and setup my PC for me (Windoze PCs > only) then there is a £50 installation charge. I chose the D.I.Y route. I rent my CM from NTL, a decision made because I knew that new models were being deployed in some places and I wanted a free upgrade. I got a new one! The engineers were very helpful, put the cable end where I wanted it, made me up an extra long cable for inside, and dropped off the CM. I did the rest. It isn't worth £50! > Thanks for all your help and advice Laurie, My pleasure. I wish I had more time to help more. I'm in Ipswich, BTW. Cheers, Laurie. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Laurie Brown laurie(a)brownowl.com PGP key at http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371 ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [Alug] Getting programs to run
by Ricardo Campos 03 Aug '02

03 Aug '02

> Where do I > go searching for these missing files? Heh, I'm SO glad I use a non-rpm based distro. try freshrpms.net and www.rpmfind.net Or use the mandrake package manager. Remember u can add internet sites as sources to it. Ricardo -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Getting programs to run
by Kelly Ash 02 Aug '02

02 Aug '02

I've loaded a program on here from a CD and was using KDE. Although it showed up in my packages I can't figure out how to get it to run! I was going to try 'run' but I'm not sure what to type in. I tried just the name of the program but that didn't work. I'm using Gnome more and more, think I like it better, and Gnome shows an icon for the program but when I click on it nothing happens. What've I done or not done properly? Also, when you're installing a program and it states you need other files, does that mean for certain that they aren't on here? Where do I go searching for these missing files? Thanks, moving along in baby steps *g* Kelly

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Choice of E-mail Clients + Stuff
by Keith Watson 02 Aug '02

02 Aug '02

Canon S400 printer now works a treat. The combination of Gimp-Print + CUPS + espgs will cope with an amazing list of different printers (espgs is a specially tweaked version of ghostscript that 'knows' about CUPS and Gimp-Print supplies all the printer definitions). More good news after visiting www.linmodems.org I discovered that the chipset in my internal modem card (not a 'proper' modem but a so-called winmodem) is one that has a set of Linux drivers available (I have the Lucent chipset see http://www.heby.de/ltmodem) After studying the Linmodem, Modem and PPP howto's, I installed PPP and the drivers plus the Gnome PPP application and applet and (after an initial bit of hassle with PAP) it now all works a treat!! I was able to happily dial into my ISP and browse the web with Opera. :o) :o) :o) Interestingly I think web browsing seems faster under GNU/Linux than it is under Windows(2K). Perhaps there's just less OS overhead getting in the way?. Now the questions; 1) What security precautions should I be taking now I can connect to the internet? Can anyone recommend some useful resources I should study? Any basic initial measures I should take? 2) Is it worth reviewing the PPP and IP setups with a view to optimising the modem performance? or are any improvements likely to be marginal? 3) Can anyone recommend some mail clients that work with Gnome? There seem to be loads on Sourceforge and Freshmeat. Some guidance with narrowing down the list would be most helpful. 4) I'd also like to migrate my existing M$ Outlook mailbox over to the new client. Has anyone ever done this? Is it possible? Regards, Keith ____________ The little things in life are as interesting as the big ones. Henry David Thoreau

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Re: lists.alug.org.uk mailing list memberships reminder
by Ian Douglas 01 Aug '02

01 Aug '02

On Thursday, August 01, 2002 6:54 AM, <mailman-owner(a)lists.blackcatnetworks.co.uk> wrote: <snip> > If you have questions, problems, comments, etc, send them to > mailman-owner(a)lists.blackcatnetworks.co.uk. Thanks! </snip> blackcatnetworks ??? Ian.

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Re: Using NTL Broadband with Linux
by tom potts 01 Aug '02

01 Aug '02

It might be worth digging a bit deeper into the 'contract' The reason why they dont like you to use Linux is becaus Linux tends to use Masquerading rather than the Proxy that is common with W$. With Proxy they can tell how many PC's you are using on the inside at any time. Its not so easy with Linux routing/firewall so you may actually be in breach of their T&C's using it and you may be cut off as a result! That may be 'urban paranoia' but, as Laurie said, they all seem to insist on w$ on the inside. This may be due to the fact the sales staff are taps but with consume.net ramping up I think not. Can anybody get copies of the contracts for these things - they're not easy to find online? Tom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

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DVD Hardware Decoders
by Daniel Simpleman 31 Jul '02

31 Jul '02

I have a P821 DVD Decoder card which is based on the ALI M3309 chipset and I was wondering if its compatible for linux its old (1999) and they dont make anymore drivers for it. They did not even make any linux drivers. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

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Using NTL Broadband with Linux
by Ian Douglas 31 Jul '02

31 Jul '02

Are there any ALUG members on the list who have their Linux network connected to the internet via NTL Broadband? An NTL sales rep rang me last night trying to get me to sign up for their broadband service. Unfortunately I think he was just reading a pre-prepared script as he was unable to answer many technical questions. In particular he was adamant that their cable modem box needed to be connected to a PC running Windows 98 or higher (*NOT* Linux). Has anyone managed to get round this as I would prefer my firewall (the PC on my network which will actually be connected to the NTL box) to continue to be Linux based rather trying to find a Windows based solution. Ian.

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OFTC down?
by John Woodard 29 Jul '02

29 Jul '02

I cannot get any response from the OFTC web site or irc server, does anybody know something that I don't? -- Cheers, BJ

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installing from cover CDs
by Glen Tyler 29 Jul '02

29 Jul '02

Hi All, I know that cover CD's seem to cause much furrowing of brows but..... Although I have been toying with linux for nearly a year, I have just used RedHat up until now. So I thought that I might get a lightweight distro from the covers of Linux Format. Gentoo and The LRS distros look interesting, but how are they installed? If I burn the iso image onto CD what do I do next?. When I installed RedHat I remember that I had to make a floppy with the boot image to launch the installer, but where would I get that from for these OSs? Although I've looked at the disc and mags there does not seem to be an idiots guide to this (which is what I need). I like to find things out for myself if possible - but don't know where to go from here. what I need is a simple instruction list something like.. 1) burn the gentoo iso image file onto a CD 2) get *****.*** file onto a floppy from??? 3) boot using floppy 4) mount CD 5) start install can anyone help? Thanks Glen

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 29 Jul '02

29 Jul '02

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.openprojects.net in the #alug channel, you can take a look at www.openprojects.net to get more info on the openprojects network. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server irc.alug.org.uk" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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Some networking questions
by John Woodard 28 Jul '02

28 Jul '02

The story so far.... OK so as some of you are aware I have a multi box, multi OS network at home running various Unix, Win 3.11, 9x and NT systems which consists of between 2 and 8 nodes at any one time at the moment. The network will never have more than 10 boxes (rash statement I know). I have loads of questions about the best way to get this up and running so here is some info to give some background on what I have and what I need. The LAN is connected to the outside world via an ISDN router which has a fixed IP address of 192.168.0.50 the rest of the nodes have fixed addresses in the range 192.168.0.0 to 192.168.0.10 and a sub net mask of 255.255.255.0. The Win boxes can all see each other and can print to each others printers via MS file and Printer sharing. One Linux box can be seen the Windows boxen via a very rudimentary Samba set up but Linux cannot see, share files or print to the Win boxen. The *nix boxes can all ping one another but I don'tknow how to share files or printers between them. What I'd like to do is have one Linux box as my gateway to the net acting as a mail server, firewall and maybe a web cache for all the other nodes on the LAN and to be able to print and share files from/to any box or printer. I'm presuming that because its just a small workgroup peer to peer network that I won't be needing a DNS server an will keep the IP addresses staticly assigned. What is the best way to setup a mail server, I have multiple accounts? Fetchmail/sendmail or are there better alternatives? What is the easiest way to share files between Linux boxes? -- Cheers, BJ

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xterm meta key
by Adrian F. Clark 26 Jul '02

26 Jul '02

Please save from tearing out what little hair I have left! I'm trying to make a Debian (woody) installation let me delete the previous word in an xterm (using tcsh) by typing meta-backspace, i.e. just like the Emacs keystroke. But it's not playing ball. It's actually pretty weird as I've never had this trouble under RedHat or SuSE (or SunOS, come to that). Relevant information: o xrdb -query reports (among other things) xterm.eightBitInput: true o I have no bindkey commands in my .cshrc and no ~/.tcshrc file o A short Tk script shows that backspace generates keycode 22 I thought I'd just need to say bindkey "M-^H" backward-delete-word in my .cshrc but that doesn't work. Any suggestions? ..Adrian -- Dr Adrian F Clark WEB: http://esewww.essex.ac.uk/~alien/ EMAIL: alien(a)essex.ac.uk TEL: +44 1206 872432 FAX: +44 1206 872900 PAPER: VASE Lab, Dept ESE, University of Essex, Colchester, CO4 3SQ, UK

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