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DVD Playing
by Steve Fosdick 21 Jul '02

21 Jul '02

I remember a discussion at the last meet about playing DVDs and someone recommending Xine as a player. I have had a go at setting this up and it complains saying it won't play encrypted DVDs even with libdvdcss installed. Has anyone else got this working? If so what did you have do do? Steve.

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RE: [Alug] Networking Problem
by Jonathan Dye 21 Jul '02

21 Jul '02

Looks like my first email never made it so i'll try again. > Hi folks, > > I got a new PC today and have been busy beavering away > installing Linux on > its hard disk and setting it up to dual boot. Everything > seems to have gone > smoothly apart from my ethernet connection (Realtek RTL8139). I had lots of problems with my RTL8139 based board under kernels 2.4.3 to about 2.4.16. It all seems to be fine now I'm running 2.4.18. > Jul 13 22:15:16 chocchip kernel: 8139too Fast Ethernet driver 0.9.24 > Jul 13 22:15:16 chocchip kernel: eth0: RealTek RTL8139 Fast Ethernet at > 0xd4a16000, 00:10:dc:1f:95:78, IRQ 18 > Jul 13 22:15:16 chocchip kernel: eth0: Identified 8139 chip type > 'RTL-8139B' > Jul 13 22:15:16 chocchip kernel: eth0: Setting half-duplex based on > auto-negotiated partner ability 0000. I get this too even thought my card works fine. I got something slightly different with the broken drivers in the earlier kernels. Doing a diff between the earlier drivers and the one I have now shows that some code changed around this and the changelog says something about some cards being broken. JD _____________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses by the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service

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AHA!
by Kelly Ash 20 Jul '02

20 Jul '02

I am sending this from within LINUX!! Woooohoooo!! *bg* I had gone into the BIOS and made the first "boot-from" CD (It previously was floppy) in order to install from the CD's. When I couldn't get it to boot at all after the install (and it asked me to insert a non-existent floppy) I went back into the BIOS and changed to to boot first from the IDE and I am. Don't know if it was the right thing to do or not, hope someone tells me, but it worked and I'm now a happy camper 'cuz I can fiddle around with Linux the rest of this afternoon! I also had put the first CD back in before that and chose "Help" then picked re-install boot loader. But no, Steve, I don't know which one it uses (I'm guessing there's probably a way I can find out) it just goes along on it's own. In my reference book it says the two you mentioned, LILO and Grub but then tells me not to concern myself with it if I'm doing a 'recommended' install, which I did. Just off the bat, is there a way I can get another email address to use for Linux? I don't want to get my current mail here right at this point because of no HTML. Will get around to changing all that later. Steve- I'm in Caister (near Yarmouth)..... is there a "member" page on the ALUG site that I've missed where you could fill in this sort of info? I'm off to poke around **soo excited** and start my list of questions! Kelly

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Heeeelp!
by Kelly Ash 20 Jul '02

20 Jul '02

Anybody out there?? Hope so! It's me..Kelly...using an old hotmail addy for the moment. Did my install this morning, went smooth as far as I could tell. Got to the very end and I clicked "OK" to reboot. Supposedly I was supposed to get a choice of either Windows or Linux (If I haven't wiped out my Windows hd that is *g*). But all I get is a black screen with: MBR Error 3 MBR Error 3 MBR Error 1 Press any key to boot from floppy. As it zipped through the steps during the install it didn't ask me once to insert a floppy! If I click any key after the last bit up there I just get: 'MBR Error 2-Press any key to boot from floppy. I've got a number here somewhere that someone (would be nice if I could remember a name!) gave me in case of problems but will check back in email a couple times first even if I DO find it, lol. The cc's are to the only addy's I could find right now for ALUG, and ones I THINK I know. We'll see how close I get *g* Thanks! Kelly _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

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Meeting Report for 14 July 2002
by MJ Ray 19 Jul '02

19 Jul '02

ALUG met on Sunday 14th July at the North Lynn Discovery Centre in King's Lynn. Attendees included John Woodard, Jen Hopkins, johnboy(!?), Keith Watson, Dave Griffiths, Dennis Dryden, MJ Ray, Brett Parker, James Taylor & Karen Maltby. Kit Debugging --------------------- USB mice - can anyone help get a wireless Logitech iTouch black mouse working? Alug promo - what should we do different? --------------------- * Announce meetings to local papers * List more in linux mags * More themed meetings * Future meetings: - Bbq@Syleham - Edu or dev?@Elmswell: ask Rob - Install@uea: ask James or David * New venue? Watch this space Printing info --------------------- * MJR gave a short talk off the top of his head: details to be added to the web site contrib area. Ipaq speech synth demo --------------------- * Thanks to Jen for bringing the ipaq, and Dennis for use of his laptop Adjourned to a local(ish) beer garden for drink and chat =========================

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Re: [Alug] Meeting Report for 14 July 2002
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 19 Jul '02

19 Jul '02

MJRay wrote: >ALUG met on Sunday 14th July at the North Lynn Discovery Centre in King's >Lynn. Attendees included John Woodard, Jen Hopkins, johnboy(!?), Keith >Watson, Dave Griffiths, Dennis Dryden, MJ Ray, Brett Parker, James Taylor & >Karen Maltby. Also Steve Fosdick valiantly appearing from the other side of the globe in time for the pub. Jen.

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Poloshirts & Sweatshirts
by Keith Watson 19 Jul '02

19 Jul '02

I'm not sure if this is the appropriate list or should go on the social list, sorry if it's wrong. At work we've recently been in contact with a company in Dereham that does promotional logos on sweatshirts etc. Just out of curiosity I asked how much they would charge to put Tux and the words "ALUG Anglian Linux User Group"** on a garment. Assuming no copyright restrictions in using Tux, for embroidered artwork, they quoted £14 for poloshirts and £15 for sweatshirts with a minimum order of 10 garments, mixture's are possible (e.g. sizes and polo/s + sweat/s). Any interest? Keith ____________ The natural order of things includes us, and its laws are our laws. We are an endless moving stream in an endless moving stream. Jisho Warner ** I suppose that should really be AGLUG - Anglian GNU/Linux User Group!! :o)

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GIMP Print Anyone?
by Keith Watson 19 Jul '02

19 Jul '02

1st thanks for the advice on how to get my Canon S400 up and running at the last meeting. Lots of useful ideas. I still haven't quite got beyond the printer, whenever I print something, going through a couple of head cleaning cycles and then going back to sleep but I have uninstalled CUPS, installed a 'proper' copy of Ghostscript, and also PDQ and Magicfilter. I like PDQ, especially xpdq. I not sure that mf is giving me anything at the moment but I'm keeping it by, just in case :o). At present reading up on how fonts are handled within X, Gnome, Ghostscript, etc. because I'm pretty sure they aren't set up correctly. OK, to get the point at last. While browsing around the printing projects on SourceForge I came across Gimp-Print <http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net/index.php3> which seems to be one of the few that supports the S400 directly instead of as a BJC600. I've got hold of a copy and I'm going to give it a try. Anyone else ever used it? Incidentally there's an article on LinuxPlanet that mentions it <http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/opinions/3689/1/> Regards, Keith ____________ 'If there is a better solution...find it.' - Thomas Edison

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Networking Problem
by Ian Douglas 18 Jul '02

18 Jul '02

Hi folks, I got a new PC today and have been busy beavering away installing Linux on its hard disk and setting it up to dual boot. Everything seems to have gone smoothly apart from my ethernet connection (Realtek RTL8139). My routing table is as follows: Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 0.0.0.0 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 If I try and ping any other hosts I get "Destination Unreachable" errors: PING suzy.suseland.net (192.168.3.61) from 192.168.3.70 : 56(84) bytes of data.

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Warchalking!!
by Keith Watson 18 Jul '02

18 Jul '02

Following on from the discussions about wireless devices at the last meeting, here's some Computing articles that may be of interest; Chalk symbols expose London's wireless points <http://www.networknews.co.uk/News/1133055> WLAN hackers chalk up attacks <http://www.itweek.co.uk/ITWeekopinion/1133308> Keith ____________ Stand still. The trees ahead and the bush beside you are not lost. Albert Einstein

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Isdn anyone?
by tom potts 17 Jul '02

17 Jul '02

I've got ISDN at home which I normally access through my NT box as I've never managed to get it to work under RH7.2/Mandrake/Suse or others. My NT box self destructed last nite (well its 9 year old harddrive did) so I wish to get up on ISDN. I've hunted high and low for FAQ's etc but the only two I've found dont seem to work. Better still does Freesco have support for ISDN? Or maybe ADSL cos I might upgrade so I Consume theneighbourhood Cheers Tom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

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blackbox automatic startup
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 17 Jul '02

17 Jul '02

Hi All, I want blackbox to start automatically when i run startx. I tried putting exec blackbox in various .xsession and .xinitrc files to no avail. So then I found myself trawling about places like /etc/X11/Xsession.d (in debian) looking at how variables are called, all very entertaining but I'm sure there is an easier way. Like "bbconf", except that didn't do anything either. Creating a file called .xsession in my home directory and putting exec blackbox in doesn't help. Help! Nothing helps! Any ideas? Thanks, Jenny.

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Re: [Alug] blackbox automatic startup
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 17 Jul '02

17 Jul '02

Adam Bower wrote: >X is evil :) it is not meant to be understood. Anyhow create the file .xinitrc >and add the one line exec blackbox and then change the permissions on the file >to read and execute for just you and then try startx. That did the job just beautifully, thanks Adam! I hereby nominate you as the phone support for the group (/me runs). Jenny.

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RE: [Alug] blackbox automatic startup
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 17 Jul '02

17 Jul '02

Keith Watson wrote: >> I want blackbox to start automatically when i run startx. I tried putting >> exec blackbox in various .xsession and .xinitrc files to no avail. > >Are you using Gnome or KDE? (or just the basic XFree86?) and, if so, are you >using something like Enlightenment or Sawfish on top of that? I *think* wmaker. I don't fully understand x and xservers, having been pretty much a cli luddite till now. Endeavouring to learn. Thanks, Jen.

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RE: [Alug] blackbox automatic startup
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 17 Jul '02

17 Jul '02

Ricardo wrote: >If you wanted to boot directly into X, then I would say >install GDM, but I guess that's not what you want? No, just for blackbox to start when I type startx. I think it is just to do with putting "exec blackbox" in the right file, but the one the helpful goole doc suggested isn't there (.xinitrc in home directory type stuff). At the moment when I startx I get a grey background with an xterm window, nothing else, until I type the appropriate window manager in the xterm. When I said earlier "I don't fully understand x..", by the way, I meant "I have absolutely no idea how x works" ;-) Jen.

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Re: [Alug] A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing
by Kelly Ash 17 Jul '02

17 Jul '02

Installing should not be too scary or such a big problem, especially as you have a new drive to put linux onto, there is very very little chance of dataloss etc. what OS are you going to dual boot Linux with? Windows NT/2000/9x? >>>Win98se Also if you do find it scary can you not make one of the Alug meetings where somebody will quite happily install (well try ;)) linux for you... If not where in the world are you as somebody could perhaps come and help you in person. (btw i just had a thought, could we not offer some kind of telephone helpline to people who are stuck 50% of the way through an install?) >>>Appreciate the thought, don't feel quite so nervous now. Was mainly worried about doing something wrong and then not having ANY puter to work with until I'd figured it out. And, btw, I'm near Yarmouth :-)

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Boot Loaders
by Keith Watson 17 Jul '02

17 Jul '02

As I'm booting from 2 disks hda=Windows and hdb=GNU/Linux, can I solicit views on what boot loaders are out there and which are suitable for this sort of configuration? Keith ____________ COMMERCE, n. A commercial pursuit. A commercial pursuit is one in which the thing pursued is money. Ambrose Bierce - The Devil's Dictionary --- This message has been scanned for computer viruses and none have been detected. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.375 / Virus Database: 210 - Release Date: 10/07/2002

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Dual Booting Win2K and Linux
by Kelly Ash 17 Jul '02

17 Jul '02

That would be great, thanks!

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Dual booting Win2K and Linux
by Keith Watson 17 Jul '02

17 Jul '02

Kelly, I have a PDF entitled as above that may be of help to you as it uses Mandrake in the examples. As it is just under 1Mb if you'd like a copy I'll send it directly to you (and anyone else who's interested). Is there an area on the ALUG site I could post it? Keith ____________ AIR, n. A nutritious substance supplied by a bountiful Providence for the fattening of the poor. Ambrose Bierce - The Devil's Dictionary --- This message has been scanned for computer viruses and none have been detected. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.375 / Virus Database: 210 - Release Date: 10/07/2002

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Re: [Alug] UDMA100 problem solved
by Ricardo Campos 17 Jul '02

17 Jul '02

> The problem I was having, that my machine hung in the BIOS when I added a > UDMA100 disk is now solved. Yes, I fitted a UDMA100 disk last night and it seemed to work fine. Except, perhaps, that cfdisk thought it only had 8 gig (as opposed to 80). the Bios seems to think it's 200Gig too. Weird. fdisk knew the score, though. Interestingly, the second HD on that IDE channel was showing signs of temporarily hanging, but then that was *that other OS*, which I did an emergency install of until I get my Debian disks back. -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Mail spool dir...
by Simon 17 Jul '02

17 Jul '02

Hi everyone, Been a while since I last posted a question where the answer is probably obvious!! MTA is Sendmail... OK, whats the file limit in directories if there is one, just my mail spool directory is huge!! There's around 5500 files in there. None of the users have shell accounts all pop3.. I was wanting to know as I've just been informed that because "the powers that be" like the way the system works with so little downtime, we're going to bin Notes (about time too) and migrate another 3000 onto the system. The current Notes server only sends and recieves around 60k messages per day, so will take the Linux box upto around 90k messages per day. I want to stick with Sendmail as I know it better than other MTA's, just want to make sure Sendmail will not have any problems with this sort of use. Bandwidth isn't an issue (which is nice to say!) got a dedicated 4mb pipe for it... TIA Simon

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Re: [Alug] Mail spool dir...
by Simon 17 Jul '02

17 Jul '02

Hi Raphael, On Wednesday 17 July 2002 8:03 am, Raphael Mankin wrote: > On 17-Jul-2002 Simon wrote: > > Thanks for the helpful reply Raphael... > > > > yes it is Linux not DOS, I didn't realise that Sendmail can run in DOS... > > If it was DOS would I have posted to ALUG??? > > Actually sendmail *does* run in DOS. Believe it or not.# OK... Live and learn.... > > > Please don't bother replying unless it's constructive.. > > That is my point. This is Linux. It does not matter how many files you > have; DOS gets its twickers in a nist after a while. Oh but it does..... > > > I was simply enquiring if there was a per directory file limit as I > > believe there is a > > maximum file size limit... > > Nope. You obviously did not follow my style of humour. But never mind, I'm > used to it. Sorry, didn't get the humour side.. <appology>sorry</appology>.. > > > Also with regard to the MTA user limit, this was more making sure that > > Sendmail would not have > > any problems... Again Raphael, thanks for the informative reply... > > > > Sometimes you wonder why people bother asking questions on mailing > > lists... Replies like > > this sure don't help.... > > > > Simon > > > > On Wednesday 17 July 2002 7:40 am, Raphael Mankin wrote: > >> On 17-Jul-2002 Simon wrote: > >> > Hi everyone, > >> > Been a while since I last posted a question where the answer is > >> > probably obvious!! > >> > > >> > MTA is Sendmail... > >> > > >> > OK, whats the file limit in directories if there is one, just my mail > >> > spool directory is huge!! There's around > >> > 5500 files in there. None of the users have shell accounts all pop3.. > >> > I was > >> > >> ^^^^^^^^^ > >> > >> So? This is Linux, not DOS. > >> > >> > wanting to know as I've just been > >> > informed that because "the powers that be" like the way the system > >> > works with so little downtime, we're going > >> > to bin Notes (about time too) and migrate another 3000 onto the > >> > system. > >> > > >> > The current Notes server only sends and recieves around 60k messages > >> > per day, so will take the Linux box > >> > upto around 90k messages per day. I want to stick with Sendmail as I > >> > know it > >> > >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >> > >> So what of it? That is only 1/sec. > >> > >> The only question is, have you got enough disk space if all the users go > >> on holiday and do not collect their mail for 2 or 3 weeks? > >> > >> > better than other MTA's, just > >> > want to make sure Sendmail will not have any problems with this sort > >> > of use. Bandwidth isn't an issue > >> > (which is nice to say!) got a dedicated 4mb pipe for it... > >> > > >> > TIA > >> > > >> > Simon > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > >> > http://www.alug.org.uk/ > >> > http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main > >> > Unsubscribe? See message headers or the web site above!

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Re: [Alug] Mail spool dir...
by Simon 17 Jul '02

17 Jul '02

Thanks for the helpful reply Raphael... yes it is Linux not DOS, I didn't realise that Sendmail can run in DOS... If it was DOS would I have posted to ALUG??? Please don't bother replying unless it's constructive.. I was simply enquiring if there was a per directory file limit as I believe there is a maximum file size limit... Also with regard to the MTA user limit, this was more making sure that Sendmail would not have any problems... Again Raphael, thanks for the informative reply... Sometimes you wonder why people bother asking questions on mailing lists... Replies like this sure don't help.... Simon On Wednesday 17 July 2002 7:40 am, Raphael Mankin wrote: > On 17-Jul-2002 Simon wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > Been a while since I last posted a question where the answer is > > probably obvious!! > > > > MTA is Sendmail... > > > > OK, whats the file limit in directories if there is one, just my mail > > spool directory is huge!! There's around > > 5500 files in there. None of the users have shell accounts all pop3.. I > > was > > ^^^^^^^^^ > > So? This is Linux, not DOS. > > > wanting to know as I've just been > > informed that because "the powers that be" like the way the system works > > with so little downtime, we're going > > to bin Notes (about time too) and migrate another 3000 onto the system. > > > > The current Notes server only sends and recieves around 60k messages per > > day, so will take the Linux box > > upto around 90k messages per day. I want to stick with Sendmail as I know > > it > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > So what of it? That is only 1/sec. > > The only question is, have you got enough disk space if all the users go on > holiday and do not collect their mail for 2 or 3 weeks? > > > better than other MTA's, just > > want to make sure Sendmail will not have any problems with this sort of > > use. Bandwidth isn't an issue > > (which is nice to say!) got a dedicated 4mb pipe for it... > > > > TIA > > > > Simon > > > > _______________________________________________ > > main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > > http://www.alug.org.uk/ > > http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main > > Unsubscribe? See message headers or the web site above!

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ALUG Helpline for stucj users
by Ben Norcutt 17 Jul '02

17 Jul '02

Yes putting peoples phone numbers isn't a great idea but we could use the YAC number I set up for publicity purposes ages ago or even sign up for a new one takes minutes online. This could be redirected via the web interface to people that want to help out on a daily/weekly rota. Cheers, Ben

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UDMA100 problem solved
by Raphael Mankin 17 Jul '02

17 Jul '02

The problem I was having, that my machine hung in the BIOS when I added a UDMA100 disk is now solved. My primary disk did not like co-existing with anything else at all. I discovered this when I got hold of another old-style disk *and* swappped the IDE cable. Remove the old primary - all is fine; put it back - only one disk can be connected. All is now sweetness and light. -- Nothing propinx like propinquity. Mark Twain Raphael Mankin E-Mail: raph(a)panache.demon.co.uk ----------------------------------

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