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Re: [Alug] OKIOFFICE 84
by MJ Ray 26 May '02

26 May '02

> Oh dear, this does pose a problem. Well tried the generic PCL and PS no > luck, then tried oki4w still no luck. This could be the deciding point of > not using Linux as my desktop :( I will plod on trying to find a solution, > which may be hard as a newbie. Any thoughts guys please shout, and no one > say buy a new printer, it ain't a possibility. Cheers for your time Mark. I assume it's too late to return the thing as "not fit for purpose" or some such? I see you're already active on the linuxprinting.org lists. I guess you probably checked cups.org and found no drivers available there either. Are you able to see on the device or in the manuals if the printer part is the same as any other standalone printer? What bad output did you get with your tests? If no output, are you sure it's actually communicating with the printer? Worst case scenario, does anyone know if it's possible to talk to this thing via a Windows system? It's a shame, but I'd hate to see it stop you using GNU/Linux at all. Actually, it's not a shame: it's a bloody nuisance. You should be very very angry about these devices. It's not like we're short of printer protocols. -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] debian upgrade woes-FIXED! (ish)
by Ricardo Campos 26 May '02

26 May '02

>Unfortunatly, stable softwares are way behind the > latest. So the > path goes like this: > > Stable > Testing > Unstable Can I rename them Stable > ConfuZing > Unusable ???????? teehee ;-) OK, so I'm typing this on my now half-testing, half stable debian box. It's taken me 12 hours!!! I NEVER want to go through that again. Anyhoo, this is what I did: I looked at www.moof.org.uk, it gave me some ideas. It wasn't the config at all. dist-upgrade had removed various packages, seeming almost f***ing randomly. The clue was all the "rc"s dpkg -l gave. I actually totally reinstalled stable, and tried again. This time I just updated bits and bobs, I kept the output of my old dpkg -l on a floppy, and compared to the new (also broken) system. To cut a very long story short, I manually installed all the "rc"d packages beginning with the letter x! It also removed all gnome packages, xdm etc. grrr and humbug. But now I have x working. :D Now to get some apps working... Many thanks to all& their suggestions! -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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OKIOFFICE 84
by Jamie French 25 May '02

25 May '02

Well guys, I am defeated. I found some drivers for GDI printers, OKI4LINUX, but I could not get my printer to even blink. So back to windoze :( Take Care, J

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Mandrake with Nvidia
by Jamie French 24 May '02

24 May '02

Hi All, I heard someone saying they where experiencing issues with mdk and nvidea at the Sylham meeting, I think it may on been BJ's son? I have attached a URL which may or may not help. http://www.linuxnewbie.org/nhf/intel/distros/mandrake/mdk_nvidia.html Take Care, J

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Install day 2k2 - first report
by MJR-mobile 24 May '02

24 May '02

We've just counted up & we think we had 12 people. One install took place and there were at least 2 new faces. More when I get home! MJR -- MJR

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RE: [Alug] OKIOFFICE 84
by Jonathan Dye 24 May '02

24 May '02

> -----Original Message----- > From: Jamie French [mailto:jamie.french@talk21.com] > Sent: 24 May 2002 10:47 > To: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > Subject: [Alug] OKIOFFICE 84 > > > Hi Guys, > > Well I have finally ditched XP and replaced with SuSe 7.3. > One problem I am > having is with an OKIOFFICE 84 printer. I can't find the > printing languages > it supports thus I can not get it working. I just wondered > if anyone else > out there has experience of OKI printers or some pointers. > As we speak I am > reading through O'Reilly Running Linux, though I better do > some work :) I assume your have checked out www.linuxprinting.org > > Take Care, > > J > JD _____________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses by the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service

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OKIOFFICE 84
by Jamie French 24 May '02

24 May '02

Hi Guys, Well I have finally ditched XP and replaced with SuSe 7.3. One problem I am having is with an OKIOFFICE 84 printer. I can't find the printing languages it supports thus I can not get it working. I just wondered if anyone else out there has experience of OKI printers or some pointers. As we speak I am reading through O'Reilly Running Linux, though I better do some work :) Take Care, J

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LXF28 - iTouch keys?
by Alexis Lee 24 May '02

24 May '02

Hi, Has anyone got their Logitech iTouch keys working? I have, except that they only work if xev has the focus. Graa. Alexis -- "I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have" - T Jefferson "It doesn't matter who you vote for. The government always gets in." "Only that in you which is me hears what I am saying" - Baba Ram Dass

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Mindterm/ SSH
by Ricardo Campos 24 May '02

24 May '02

OK. I need to give SSH access to my machine to about 10/20 people. They mostly use windows, some use Mac, and some sensible ones use GNU/Linux. Most are not "technically disposed". My basic idea is to use Java for them to do this- there is no xserver on this machine btw. MindTerm springs to mind... however the source code is no longer available. I would accept a BSD or (l)GPL license, however, looking at the freshmeat page:- "the license of the SSH2 package has not been decided and hence the license of MindTerm v1.99 can't be GPL (or anything else for that matter) until this is decided. The license will be decided before the end of this year, until then the v1.99 will be a demo with a restricted license and no source code will be made available. All code up to and including v1.2.1 is and will of course be GPL." ( http://freshmeat.net/projects/mindterm/?topic_id=913 ) All source code and previous versions have been removed. However, MacSSH is SSH2 only, and has been released under GPL: http://pro.wanadoo.fr/chombier/ I would like advice on this subject. Should I just implement SSH v1 and thus be able to go via the Java route, or should I wait for a Java SSH2 client. Hmm. I'm a little confused. -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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RE: [Alug] Mindterm/ SSH
by Jonathan Dye 24 May '02

24 May '02

> -----Original Message----- > From: Ricardo Campos [mailto:corez23@linuxmail.org] > Sent: 24 May 2002 10:44 > To: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > Subject: [Alug] Mindterm/ SSH > > OK. I need to give SSH access to my machine to about > 10/20 people. They mostly use windows, some use Mac, and some > sensible ones use GNU/Linux. Most are not > "technically disposed". > > My basic idea is to use Java for them to do this- > there is no xserver on this machine btw. MindTerm > springs to mind... however the source code is no > longer available. [...] Doesn't webmin have a java ssh applet? Maybe it would be worth looking at that as I assume the code for that is GPL along with the rest of webmin. JD _____________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses by the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service

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mmap() question
by Paul 23 May '02

23 May '02

Hi Folks playing around with a PCI IO card that has four seperate blocks of registers on board. One block is mapped to IO space and can be read without any trouble. The remaining blocks are all mapped to memory with the mmap kernel call. Now for the problem - If I try to read from a nonexistant register, the computer locks up completely. Although I have some data on the card, there is holes in the register map for optional plug in modules. Trouble is, I do not know where all these holes are... Question - Is there a nonblocking call that I can use to read from the PCI card without locking up the system ? Regards, Paul.

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[craigo@wizball.co.uk: Re: [Alug] debian upgrade woes]
by Craig 23 May '02

23 May '02

(Forgot to stick this on ALUG.. fingers went off and emailed Ricardo instead!) On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 01:00:22PM +0000, Ricardo Campos said: > Thanks for the help guys, I've been given enough info to > really have a good go at it. I'll keep you posted! > > As an aside, obviously this dist-upgrade thing isn't > very reliable. Is there any way I can gather info and > send it on to the deb developers so they might be able > to sort it out? Please do keep us posted. Btw, this what I normally do on most machines $ apt-get update $ apt-get upgrade then $ apt-get dist-upgrade Works for me 100% all the time for some weird reasons. I must been doing something right... (o_ .----------------------------------------. //\ | Craig Butcher | http://www.wizball.co.uk| V_/_ | - Using Debian GNU/Linux - | `----------------------------------------'

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Re: [Alug] debian upgrade woes
by Ricardo Campos 23 May '02

23 May '02

People on ALUG wrote: >Lots of handy hints! ;) Thanks for the help guys, I've been given enough info to really have a good go at it. I'll keep you posted! As an aside, obviously this dist-upgrade thing isn't very reliable. Is there any way I can gather info and send it on to the deb developers so they might be able to sort it out? -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Printing
by John Seago 23 May '02

23 May '02

Please ignore my request for help, I have recompiled my kernel, deleted the existing /etc/printcap and re-run apsfilter setup, and somehow managed to get everything working. Now all I have to do is work out what went wrong the first time! -- John Seago

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debian upgrade woes
by Ricardo Campos 23 May '02

23 May '02

Oh, it's hard to say where to start on this one.... I upgraded from Debian 2.2r3 to testing (woody) and am having the following problems since my apt-get dist-upgrade. 1st off, it's screwed my keymap, so I cannot seem to find a combination to produce the pipe symobol | (very annoying!) 2nd, it (rather predictably) screwed my X configuration. It seems that X4.1.0 no longer supports the S3 server. (mine's a S3 trio 64+ to be exact). However, dpkg -l shows that I have two xserver-common packages, one 3.3.6, one 4.1.0 . the xserver-s3 package is still version 3.3.6, as is xserver -vga. There may be others, since I cannot dpkg -l | more ! XF86Config brings no joy- it appears to produce a 3.3.6 style config, and XF86Setup segfaults immediately. I'm new to the debian packaging system, so erm... help???? My first choice is to fix the console's keymap. Then I probably want to uninstall X completely and grab Xfree86 3.3.6 of my install CD's again, and then resolving the conflicts this will cause is another question entirely.... *eep* Ricardo -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Re: [Alug] debian upgrade woes]
by Craig 23 May '02

23 May '02

On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 10:40:29PM +0000, Ricardo Campos said: > Oh, it's hard to say where to start on this one.... That's okay.. have a cup of tea. I'm sitting here, dogtired :( > I upgraded from Debian 2.2r3 to testing (woody) and am having the following > problems since my apt-get dist-upgrade. Uh oh. > 1st off, it's screwed my keymap, so I cannot seem to find a combination to > produce the pipe symobol | (very annoying!) I can't remember how to do this one, I remember fixing this ages ago when I installed debian on this new machine last year. > 2nd, it (rather predictably) screwed my X configuration. It seems that X4.1.0 > no longer supports the S3 server. (mine's a S3 trio 64+ to be exact). However, > dpkg -l shows that I have two xserver-common packages, one 3.3.6, one 4.1.0. > The xserver-s3 package is still version 3.3.6, as is xserver -vga. There may > be others, since I cannot dpkg -l | more ! Install either xserver-s3, xserver-s3v or xserver-svga instead. I remember I had that problems on the laptop a while ago. See if that helps. > XF86Config brings no joy- it appears to produce a 3.3.6 style config, and > XF86Setup segfaults immediately. Try running xf86cfg instead in console. I'm sure this should help out.... > I'm new to the debian packaging system, so erm... help???? When you installed Debian first time. You are set to 'stable' version of Debian. Unfortunatly, stable softwares are way behind the latest. So the path goes like this: Stable > Testing > Unstable As you know already you switched to Testing ;) To update to the latest packages, do: $ apt-get update then $ apt-get upgrade (most people do apt-get dist-upgrade, it is sometimes well known to screw up big time..) > My first choice is to fix the console's keymap. Then I probably want to > uninstall X completely and grab Xfree86 3.3.6 of my install CD's again, and > then resolving the conflicts this will cause is another question entirely.... Try my suggestion above. HTH -- (o_ .----------------------------------------. //\ | Craig Butcher | http://www.wizball.co.uk| V_/_ | - Using Debian GNU/Linux - | `----------------------------------------'

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Printing
by John Seago 22 May '02

22 May '02

I made an attempt to transfer my archive to a larger partition, somewhere in the process of which partition was which, I managed to reformat the wrong partition and lost all my data, (luckily my address book was in the process of being sent back to me by Email). Having through incompetance messed things up, I reinstalled tidying up my partitions at the same time. Having got everything back to normal I went through the same process of setting up Apsfilter that I used succesfully last time, but on trying to produce a test page, or print from it I get `deamon not present' . I need to restart the process but despite searching with Google, and reading the manual I can't find a way to do this that I understand, Any help will be greatly appreciated. -- John Seago

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Re: crappy ide for /boot and swap
by tom potts 21 May '02

21 May '02

'by putting in a crappy old IDE disk that contained /boot and the swap partition, and used the raid for everything else. It's been running 3 weeks without problems (well no ones asked me to mend it!)' --------------- you may find that using a crappy old IDE may slow the system down considerably if it starts paging a lot. You might find it interesting to make a swap partition on your big disk and then try doing something that swaps a lot to test which swap is faster - worth an afternoons playing as it can make a hell of a difference! Tom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

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Re: [Alug] ALUG website
by Ricardo Campos 21 May '02

21 May '02

> But feel free to look? > > http://www.wizball.co.uk/linux_article.php?id=17 I've linked to it on the ALUG site. ;) Ricardo -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Announce digest, Vol 1 #17 - 3 msgs
by announce-request＠lists.alug.org.uk 21 May '02

21 May '02

Send Announce mailing list submissions to announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to announce-request(a)lists.alug.org.uk You can reach the person managing the list at announce-admin(a)lists.alug.org.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Announce digest..." --------------.--------------------------------------------.------------ alug-announce | Newsletter of the Anglian Linux User Group | Weekly(ish) --------------'--------------------------------------------'------------ ** Please send articles for this letter to announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk ** *** Please send replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk, not announce... *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Today's Topics: 1. Fwd: [lugmaster] Birmingham Linux Expo cancelled (MJ Ray) 2. Fwd: Jabber service (MJ Ray) 3. Fwd: [peterboro] May PLUG meeting (MJ Ray) --__--__-- Message: 1 To: announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk From: MJ Ray <markj(a)cloaked.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 00:49:06 +0100 Subject: [Alug Announce] Fwd: [lugmaster] Birmingham Linux Expo cancelled Subject: [lugmaster] Birmingham Linux Expo cancelled From: Denny <denny(a)btsuck.org> Date: 10 May 2002 22:13:25 +0100 For those who don't read NTK or get the news another way: http://www.linuxexpobirmingham.com/ It's definitely NOT happening now. Regards, Denny -- Don't believe the hype. --__--__-- Message: 2 To: announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk From: MJ Ray <markj(a)cloaked.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 22:24:55 +0100 Subject: [Alug Announce] Fwd: Jabber service From: Neil Darlow <neil(a)darlow.co.uk> Subject: Jabber service Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 14:21:58 +0100 Hi All, Those of you suffering Micro$oft-phobia, but who need to converse with their MSN Messenger handicapped buddies, might find this useful. I have a Jabber server, with MSN Messenger transport, running at darlow.co.uk which I would be happy for LUG members to use. The server name is: darlow.co.uk and it accepts plaintext connects on port 5222 and SSL-encrypted connects on port 5223. There are a number of Jabber clients for Linux of which gabber seems to be the most popular but I have had some success using the gaim multi-protocol IM client also. You'll need either a Hotmail/MSN e-mail account or an ordinary e-mail account registered with Microsoft Passport to use the MSN Messenger Transport but for general Jabber IM or use of the chatrooms you only need to create an account on the server. Please feel free to pass this offer on to your LUG members. Regards, Neil Darlow M.Sc. -- Beds Lugmaster --__--__-- Message: 3 To: announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk From: MJ Ray <markj(a)cloaked.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 17:03:48 +0100 Subject: [Alug Announce] Fwd: [peterboro] May PLUG meeting For more information, join the peterboro LUG list. Lifts available from/to King's Lynn. See some of you there, perhaps. Subject: [peterboro] May PLUG meeting From: Ben Hayes <Ben(a)benhayes.uklinux.net> Date: 15 May 2002 21:35:49 +0100 The PLUG meeting will be held on May 23rd at 7:30p.m. The address of the meeting is as follows: Misys Insurance Management Ltd, 7 North Street, Cavell Court, Peterborough For those whom have never been, we are located across the Westgate parking lot and about 3 doors down from Hobart's Pub (I think this is the name of it). We have secure parking for those attending so there isn't a need to pay for parking. [...] The topic is a continuation of last month PostgreSQL which was hosted by Steve Gallagher. Graham will be giving us an advanced insight into PostgreSQL (and maybe some DBA tips - hint). --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Announce mailing list Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce End of Announce Digest

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Red Hat 7.0 is mad about the number "40"
by Douglas Thompson 20 May '02

20 May '02

Hi all, I've just installed RedHat 7.0 On my 256MB-RAM 1200MHZ-AMD-ATHLON-TBIRD 38.9GB-HDD. When I rebooted, 40 cept on flashing across the screen. Nothing happened after 20mins, so I installed SuSE 8.0 over it. Anybody know how to stop those 40s? (They came up as soon as LILO started). --- DougT

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Video editing with Linux
by Jamie French 20 May '02

20 May '02

Hi Guys, I have a DV camera and looking to edit recorded material via the PC. I have seen many packages within my price range, for instance Pinnacle, though it appears only to be Windoze based. This is ok, but I would really like the option to utilise Linux as well. Software doesn't seem to be a problem under Linux but the hardware does. If anyone has any experience or references I would really appreciate the help. I just don't need any more dependencies on Windoze, especially XP :) Take Care, J

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Syleham
by Jamie French 20 May '02

20 May '02

Hi Guys, It was good to meet with you all at Syleham today and look forward to further meetings. Take care, Jamie

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ALUG website
by Ricardo Campos 20 May '02

20 May '02

I just put 2 tips in the ALUG website, some stuff on disk usage using du and df (cos everyone should have em as opposed to Gnome/KDE specific progs), and also getting a USB CD-Writer to work. I also cleaned up the events page, putting the last two in the "past events section", and indeed the future events part seems a bit sparse! Anyone fancy offering a venue for the Summer BBQ? ;) (tummy rumbles...) -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 20 May '02

20 May '02

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.openprojects.net in the #alug channel, you can take a look at www.openprojects.net to get more info on the openprojects network. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server uk.openprojects.net" or "/server eu.openprojects.net" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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