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Request for Sunday
by John Woodard 14 May '02

14 May '02

I could use some help getting a Linux box to talk to a Windows box. I have no real experence with samba so some help setting it up would be great. -- Cheers, BJ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.361 / Virus Database: 199 - Release Date: 07/05/2002

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A few Questions
by David Freeman 13 May '02

13 May '02

Hi peeps, Got a couple of questions I need help with: Why is it every so often the process Kupdated runs for a few seconds and takes 99% CPU usage? If I have a phone with an IR modem built in, How do I use this with a Laptop running linux? Also if the deal I have on the phone gives me free WAP can I use this free WAP as net time via the modem thingy? On the linux install day is there anychance of a webcam being set up? I will be in canterbury on the day and can't get to Norwich (start work next day) and it would be nice to be able to kinda take part, if remotely. Anyone Else going to the Linux Beer Hike? And finally, why did I get a job programming in FORTRAN? AdvTHANKSance D - Mind gone funny

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Re: [Alug] Re: What the postman brought
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 13 May '02

13 May '02

>> As with the other stuff, I'll make sure it gets to the next ALUG. Do we >> want to give away some of this stuff in Install Day competitions, or what? > >Raffles tickets? We could have a "colour the penguin" competition. ;-) Races to see who can network up their computer first at the install day starting from scratch, with different categories for laptop, distribution. Pin the pimple on bill gates? Jen.

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 13 May '02

13 May '02

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.openprojects.net in the #alug channel, you can take a look at www.openprojects.net to get more info on the openprojects network. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server uk.openprojects.net" or "/server eu.openprojects.net" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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WineX
by Craig 12 May '02

12 May '02

Anyone here subscribed to them and tested their WineX binaries? What are your views on it? Just the fact I have installed most games like Half Life, Half Life: Blue Shift, Carmaggedon etc in Wine. No problems so far! -- (o_ .----------------------------------------. //\ | Craig Butcher | http://www.wizball.co.uk| V_/_ | - Using Debian GNU/Linux - | `----------------------------------------'

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UEA 9th June
by david casal 11 May '02

11 May '02

Ok after chasing room bookings and the conference office: it seems elizabeth fry is closed at weekends so security wouldn't be happy for us to be in there. common room A at nelson court and constable terrace's main common room were available though, so I booked constable terrace. It's big and close to a car park, and it's ground floor. No network. Final? dc david casal --0+ --- d.casal(a)uea.ac.uk --9+ --- www.ariada.uea.ac.uk/~dcasal --)+

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Install days promotion
by John Woodard 11 May '02

11 May '02

I have announced the install days on the following Usenet groups: alt.uk.local.e-s-s-e-x free.uk.talk.ipswich free.uk.talk.norwich uk.comp.os.linux uk.local.east-anglia uk.local.essx If anybody can think of any others that might be relevant please post the name here. The following is the message that I posted: ********* ALUG LINUX INSTALL DAY(s) * Tired of unstable systems that lock up just when you're doing something really important? * Fed up paying out for software upgrades that don't live up to expectations? * Want more control over your computer? * Heard about Linux but unsure about how to try it? As part of Linux Install Day 2002 (http://www.linuxinstallday.org) Anglian Linux Users Group are holding two days to showcase Linux. We can help you install it on your computer, answer your questions, or you can just come along and see what Linux can do for you. The meetings are:- 19th May at Syleham Village Hall, Nr. Eye Suffolk 9th June at the University of East Anglia, Norwich Please visit our website for more information and directions: http://www.alug.org.uk ********* Cheers, BJ

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Re: [Alug] New Member
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 11 May '02

11 May '02

>I expect I will be asking questions in the main, but i might be able to >answer some ! > >Cheers Phil Shaw 8-) I thought you were telling us you were 8 yrs old then, and was about to be truly impressed ;-) Jenny.

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Announce digest, Vol 1 #16 - 4 msgs
by announce-request＠lists.alug.org.uk 10 May '02

10 May '02

Send Announce mailing list submissions to announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to announce-request(a)lists.alug.org.uk You can reach the person managing the list at announce-admin(a)lists.alug.org.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Announce digest..." --------------.--------------------------------------------.------------ alug-announce | Newsletter of the Anglian Linux User Group | Weekly(ish) --------------'--------------------------------------------'------------ ** Please send articles for this letter to announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk ** *** Please send replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk, not announce... *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Today's Topics: 1. Fwd: clug [sgibson(a)Oxfam.org.uk: [ecampaigning] The Community Linux Mobile Training Centre Proposal] (MJ Ray) 2. Fwd: [uklugs] A question about training....I would appreciate some feedback. (MJ Ray) 3. Linux Install Day 2002 -- Your LUG Needs YOU! (MJ Ray) 4. Fwd: [Alug] Weekly IRC reminder (MJ Ray) --__--__-- Message: 1 To: announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk From: MJ Ray <markj(a)cloaked.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 17:29:56 +0100 Subject: [Alug Announce] Fwd: clug [sgibson(a)Oxfam.org.uk: [ecampaigning] The Community Linux Mobile Training Centre Proposal] Maybe of interest to ALUG too. Sorry if you've seen it already. ----- Forwarded message from mobbsey(a)gn.apc.org ----- Hi all, I thought I'd alert you to a thing I'm working up with the Free Range Network - "The Community Linux Mobile Training Centre". I thought some you might like to give it a little publicity to help get the project working, and then perhaps even hire it out one day! The project proposal is at: http://www.fraw.org.uk/archive/rangers/cltc/cltc_proposal.html Basically we wanted to develop a mobile ICT training centre that could operate in a community centre, or in the middle of a field at gatherings sich as Glastonbury or the Big Green Gathering. This proposal is what we came up with. We've tried to get funding from funding bodies for four years, but they really have problems funding something as vague as 'training people to do anything they want to do'. If you'd like more details please get in touch. P. --__--__-- Message: 2 To: announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk From: MJ Ray <markj(a)cloaked.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 23:32:59 +0100 Subject: [Alug Announce] Fwd: [uklugs] A question about training....I would appreciate some feedback. Can you help this chap with his market research? Thanks, MJR From: "Robert Chapman" <robertc(a)dircon.co.uk> Subject: [uklugs] A question about training....I would appreciate some feedback. Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 17:12:32 +0100 Reply-To: "Robert Chapman" <robertc(a)dircon.co.uk> I won't be so brazen as to say who I work for but for about 8 months we have been "gently" advertising Linux training courses. Firstly LCA and more recently LPI. However no one really seems at all interested in it. If you go to a search engine and type "linux training" we come out near the top or at the top! So it can't be that people aren't finding us. So my question to the Linux community is (and if your members could be forwarded this email I would be grateful) : Why is this? Thanks for listening and hopefully responding, Robert. --__--__-- Message: 3 To: announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk From: MJ Ray <markj(a)cloaked.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 21:53:43 GMT Subject: [Alug Announce] Linux Install Day 2002 -- Your LUG Needs YOU! Hi Announce subscribers, Organisation for this year's Linux Install Days is going ahead at a furious pace. ALUG is running events on both the 19th May at Syleham near Diss and 9th June at UEA Norwich. Some details can be seen at http://www.alug.org.uk/contrib/?LinuxInstallDay2002 and the national event site is http://www.linuxinstallday.org/ If you want to see what GNU/Linux can do, please come along to one of the events and introduce yourself to us. If you want help with installing on a computer you're bringing, please fill out the help request form at http://www.linuxinstallday.org/ Also, I'm asking for your help in making this event a success. The first date is now only about ten days away, so we need to start getting information out to libraries, offices, computer shops and local noticeboards. You can download PDFs of posters and leaflets at the web site. Please add a note if you start publicising the event, so we know who's active in each area and try to cover most of them. Help is needed at the actual events, too. If you're good at installing GNU/Linux onto systems, especially if you've experience at dual-booting, then please make yourself known, either on the main(a)lists.alug.org.uk list, or just to the venue organiser. Thanks for reading, -- MJR ,---------------------------------------------------- | Q. Do you need a net-based application developing, | or advice and training about web technology? | A. I suggest you try http://www.luminas.co.uk/ --__--__-- Message: 4 To: announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk From: MJ Ray <markj(a)cloaked.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 22:44:27 +0100 Subject: [Alug Announce] Fwd: [Alug] Weekly IRC reminder Maybe some Announce subscribers won't have seen this before? From: Neill Newman <neill(a)entora.co.uk> Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 06:00:01 +0100 This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting Monday at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.openprojects.net in the #alug channel, you can take a look at www.openprojects.net to get more info on the openprojects network. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server uk.openprojects.net" or "/server eu.openprojects.net" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!) --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Announce mailing list Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce End of Announce Digest

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New Member
by Philip Shaw 10 May '02

10 May '02

Hello all I have been playing with Linux on and off for 3 years or so, on older machines in the main. But have now decided to make the switch from Windows, as far as possible! Have just purchased SuSe Linux 7.3 and am slowly getting up to speed. I am currently looking into using as intranet server, for windows networks, i am therfore working with Apache, PHP, Perl, Samba ..... I expect I will be asking questions in the main, but i might be able to answer some ! Cheers Phil Shaw 8-)

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Re: [Alug] What the postman brought
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 09 May '02

09 May '02

MJRay wrote: >I believe this is the start of the Install Day material. With regards to >install day: who's done what for publicity so far? Who can do what between >now and Monday? Please add details to the page at >http://www.alug.org.uk/contrib/?LinuxInstallDay2002 > >We need to get this message "out there" pronto! Has anyone volunteered the box running "Server tools - Samba, network audio?, should we have 1 linux box being an infrastructure box running things like DHCP, DNS, router etc. etc. to make setup easier? " yet? I can bring my laptop with *working* pc card running samba, but it doesn't run DNS, DHCP or the like. Colleges are probably the best place for postering, I'll put some up at Anglia polytech. Jen.

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Re: [Alug] Allegro Install Howto
by Dryden 09 May '02

09 May '02

To compile an allegro program do this: gcc -c mytest.c -o mytest.o gcc -o mytest mytest.o `allegro-config --libs` Remember there backticks(things below esc on this keyborad). :) Also for stuff like this check out www.allegro.cc ... its forums are very helpfull. Or try to RTFM!!!!!!!!!!! Dennis Dryden -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Simpleman <reknaw_2000(a)yahoo.com> To: ALUG <main(a)lists.alug.org.uk> Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 18:01:34 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Alug] Allegro Install Howto I successfully installed Allegro in Windows and got it working just fine. The only problem is trying to install it for linux. Im getting problems when trying to compile the programs. Its like it cant find the libraries needed. A good tutorial might help me out... ...Daniel Simpleman __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ main(a)lists.alug.org.uk http://www.anglian.lug.org.uk/ http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main Unsubscribe? See message headers or the web site above! ********************************************************************** IMPORTANT: This email and its attachments are intended for the addressee only and may be confidential. If they have come to you in error you must take no action based on them nor must you copy or show them to anyone; please telephone us immediately. The contents of this email and attachments represent the views of the sender and are not necessarily the representative of the views of The College of West Anglia **********************************************************************

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Red Hat 7.3 is out
by Martyn Drake 09 May '02

09 May '02

Hi folks, You've all probably seen it by now, but Red Hat has officially released version 7.3 of their latest distribution (which they've called Valhalla). Regards, Martyn

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Re: [Alug] Red Hat 7.3 is out
by MJ Ray 09 May '02

09 May '02

Raphael Mankin: > On 07-May-2002 Adam Bower wrote: > > ummm, maybe you didn't know but the Redhat 7.3 CD .isos are *not* gpl, > > they are trying to do nasty things to restrict people selling them on > > cheap. Although user groups are still allowed to distribute them. The > Such restriction are likely to fall foul of various EU directives as well as > UK 'unfair restraint of trade' provisions. As I understood it, the ISOs are GPL, but you can't describe them as "RedHat" because that trademark is being enforced very heavily. I wonder if we'll start to see people offering "a certain RPM-based distribution 7.3" or similar soon. You probably know that I'm not a great fan of that distribution and I'm not exactly unhappy to see its owners doing things to harm its share of the GNU/Linux market. -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] Perl variables and decimal please... Help
by xs＠kittenz.org 08 May '02

08 May '02

on Wed, May 08, 2002 at 01:18:52PM +0100, Richard Kettlewell wrote: > Why not: > > $a = int(100 * $a)/100.0; Because that truncates the number; it doesn't round. Plus seems to be slower than sprintf(), especially with a high enough number of decimal places required. Implementing it as a generic "reduce to n d.p." would probably require one exponent to an unknown, and not base 2, so probably not terribly easy for a compiler or interpreter to optimize. (afaik) > > Which will work, but personally I would try to avoid reducing the > > number of decimal places that are stored in the variable and instead > > do the reduction when the variable was printed, i.e. use sprintf and > > printf for printing the values. Sure, and printf is synonymous to print sprintf(). (It would seem fairly logical for printf to feed the value of sprintf() into print() and not interpret the values itself.)

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Re: [Alug] Perl variables and decimal please... Help-- Sorted, thanks
by Simon 08 May '02

08 May '02

On Wednesday 08 May 2002 5:18 pm, Richard Kettlewell wrote: > Steve Fosdick <fozzy(a)pelvoux.demon.co.uk> writes: > > On Tue, 07 May 2002 11:01:54 xs(a)kittenz.org wrote: > >> on Tue, May 07, 2002 at 10:30:22AM +0500, Simon wrote: > >>> It's gotta be easy, but I can't find it... How do I reduce > >>> the number of decimal places in a variable ??? <snip> > > $a = int(100 * $a)/100.0; > > > Which will work, but personally I would try to avoid reducing the > > number of decimal places that are stored in the variable and instead > > do the reduction when the variable was printed, i.e. use sprintf and > > printf for printing the values. > > Indeed. </snip> Perfect... thanks

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Javascript, perl script, anyscript help please....
by Simon 07 May '02

07 May '02

Hi Guys, I'm looking for a method of scrolling a HTML page up and down without user intervention... I know of the window.scroll method in Javascript, but I can only get it to scroll down... The purpose is so a page with monitoring data (MRTG graphs) can gently scroll up so all the graphs are displayed over a period of time... Any ideas ??? Simon

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Perl variables and decimal please... Help
by Simon 07 May '02

07 May '02

Hi Guys, It's gotta be easy, but I can't find it... How do I reduce the number of decimal places in a variable ??? Simon

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re javascript scrolling
by tom potts 07 May '02

07 May '02

window.scrollTo(x, y); with x and y set to 0 should take you back to the top. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

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Any "expect" gurus out there?
by Andrew Wallis 07 May '02

07 May '02

I have a shell script which runs an expect script which, in turn, connects to my router and reboots it. I've had something very like it for ages but I've had a problem ever since a recent upgrade to RH7.2. Basically, the script works fine in the foreground; it works fine under "at now +1 minute"; it works fine under "batch" BUT it always fails when run under cron. The relevant output from failed jobs looks like: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- spawn telnet my-router Trying 192.168.0.254... Connected to my-router. Escape character is '^]'. Password: Connection closed by foreign host. send: spawn id exp3 not open while executing "exp_send -s -- $arg" (procedure "send" line 3) invoked from within "send -- "X"" (file "/usr/local/sbin/reboot_router.exp" line 53) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- which seems to show that the telnet session is spawned OK and opens the connection (the "Password: " string comes from the router) but then as soon as expect tries to send the first character of the password, it finds that the telnet session has been closed! Any ideas, please? PS. Yes, I know all of the security risks in embedding passwords in scripts and in using telnet rather than ssh! Regards Andrew Wallis Fox Cottage Fox Hill St Cross South Elmham HARLESTON IP20 0NX UK tel: +44 (0)1986 782283 mobile: +44 (0)7860 217025 SMS via email: mailto: +447860217025(a)mmail.co.uk

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Allegro Install Howto
by Daniel Simpleman 06 May '02

06 May '02

I successfully installed Allegro in Windows and got it working just fine. The only problem is trying to install it for linux. Im getting problems when trying to compile the programs. Its like it cant find the libraries needed. A good tutorial might help me out... ...Daniel Simpleman __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 06 May '02

06 May '02

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Re: [Alug] Javascript, perl script, anyscript help please....
by MJ Ray 06 May '02

06 May '02

> Thanks Mark, > The links were fine, but there was no scrolling, well not the type I'm > looking for.... Pages like the news stories work by scrolling a frame, I think, but it seems to be broken in Mozilla (again). Not sure if they're using window.scroll, but hey ho, it was an idea. -- MJR

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UEA on the 9th June - Talk on Visual Effects
by Martyn Drake 05 May '02

05 May '02

Hi, I'm able to make it to the UEA on June 9th to do this talk on Linux in the post-production and visual effects industry if we've got a room booked for that date (I seem to remember a room in the ARTS building has been reserved). Is this okay with everybody? Regards, Martyn

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SCSI Install probs
by Ricardo Campos 04 May '02

04 May '02

I'm trying to install Debian on a box with a SCSI HD. Unfortunately, I'm having a few problems... I'm having probs with the HD. I get these messages when I boot from the debian rescue floppy: (scsi0): detects card OK, then says:- scsi: <fdomain> Detection failed (no card) scsi0 <Adaptec AHA-294x Ultra2 SCSI host adapter> scsi : 1 host. (gives correct details of HD) scsi: detected 1 SCSI disk in total. sda: Spinning up disk... not responding sda: READ CAPACITY failed Partition check: sda:SCSI disk error : host 0 channel 0 id 0 lun 0 return code = 28000002 [valid=0] Info fld=0x0, Current sd08:00: sense Key Not Ready Additional sense indicates Logical unit not ready cause not reportable scsidisk I/O error: dev 08:00, sector 0 unable to read partition table. I have a few jumpers I have not set (i.e off), but could if needed. These are: MTR -RMT Start DLY: Start Delay SYN: Synchronous LED: LED Any ideas? -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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