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Announce: ALUG meeting 24th March
by John Woodard 19 Mar '02

19 Mar '02

The next Anglian Linux Users Group meeting will be on Sunday 24th March 2002 2:00pm - 6:00pm at AT Veterinary Systems Elmtree Business Park Elmswell Bury St. Edmunds Location can be found at: http://www.vetsystems.com/contacts/location%20map.htm Host for the meeting will be Rob Tillyard mailto:rob@vetsystems.com Normal warnings apply kit is brought at your own risk please label it to avoid confusion. More details in the wiki contrib area http://www.alug.org.uk/contrib/?Elmswell%20for%20March%2024th. I'll post this to the various relevant usenet groups over the next couple of days. -- cheers, bj

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March 24th Meeting.
by John Seago 19 Mar '02

19 Mar '02

Directions and a Map would be very helpfull. I'm planning on being there, but I may be a little late as I think I have to shoot, (archery), a league match on that Sunday, but I should be able to manage to get there about 14.30 > 14.45. -- John Seago Change is not a synonym for `progress'.

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March 24th Meeting.
by Robert Tillyard 19 Mar '02

19 Mar '02

Are we all OK for a March 24th meeting at Elmswell? This will be my first so is there anything I need to provide or do? Rob.

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Re: [Alug] March 24th Meeting.
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 19 Mar '02

19 Mar '02

Robert Tillyard <rob(a)vetsystems.com> wrote: > Are we all OK for a March 24th meeting at Elmswell? This will be my > first so is there anything I need to provide or do? I just realised I probably can't make it, although I will try my utmost. (Don't let that stop you, though....!!!) Jen.

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Re: [Alug] Port 5005
by Paul 18 Mar '02

18 Mar '02

Hi Richard Perhaps "enabling the port" was the wrong phrase. I haver the server app running on one machine and it accepts local connections without any problems. When the remote client attempts to connect, the connection is refused on port 5005. There is no firewall, and system security is as lax as I know how to make it. It could be a bug in the server/client software, I'm just working through the various possibilties at the moment. Regards, Paul. On Monday 18 March 2002 23:04, Richard Kettlewell wrote: > There's no such concept as "enabling" a TCP port.

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 18 Mar '02

18 Mar '02

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.openprojects.net in the #alug channel, you can take a look at www.openprojects.net to get more info on the openprojects network. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server uk.openprojects.net" or "/server eu.openprojects.net" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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Why won't RH 7.2 mount my CD?
by Andrew Wallis 17 Mar '02

17 Mar '02

Hi! I'm another newbie (to ALUG not Linux) and here I go starting with a plea for help! I've just updated one of my machines which previously ran RH 5.X then 6.0 to RH 7.3. Well, actually, I didn't update - as always I cleaned the disk right down, low-level formatted, re-partitioned and did a completely new installation. Most things run fine BUT I can't seem to mount a CD. I know there's nothing wrong with the drive because I did the installation from it! Here's the dirt: ####################################### [andrew.wallis]# cat /etc/fstab LABEL=/ / ext3 defaults 1 1 LABEL=/boot /boot ext3 defaults 1 2 none /dev/pts devpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0 LABEL=/home /home ext3 defaults 1 2 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 LABEL=/tmp /tmp ext3 defaults 1 2 LABEL=/usr /usr ext3 defaults 1 2 LABEL=/usr/local /usr/local ext3 defaults 1 2 LABEL=/usr/src /usr/src ext3 defaults 1 2 LABEL=/var /var ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/sda3 swap swap defaults 0 0 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom iso9660 noauto,user,kudzu,ro 0 0 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto noauto,user,kudzu 0 0 [root@vulpes]# mount /mnt/cdrom mount: /dev/cdrom: unknown device [root@vulpes]# ls -l /dev/cdrom /dev/scd0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Mar 5 19:15 /dev/cdrom -> /dev/scd0 [root@vulpes]# ls -l /dev/cdrom /dev/scd0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Mar 5 19:15 /dev/cdrom -> /dev/scd0 brw------- 1 andrew.w disk 11, 0 Aug 30 2001 /dev/scd0 [root@vulpes]# cat /proc/scsi/scsi Attached devices: Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00 Vendor: IBM Model: DGVS09U Rev: 03B0 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 03 Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 03 Lun: 00 Vendor: PLEXTOR Model: CD-ROM PX-32TS Rev: 1.02 Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 05 Lun: 00 Vendor: SONY Model: SDT-9000 Rev: 0123 Type: Sequential-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 ####################################### So you can see that the system seems to know the device is there but the /dev/scd0 device (11, 0) doesn't seem to be able to access it. I'm embarrassed to admit that I'm flummoxed. Any suggestions, please? Regards Andrew Wallis St Cross South Elmham HARLESTON

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My Turn For An Intro
by Matt Parker 16 Mar '02

16 Mar '02

Hi, Well, finally got round to subscribing. Been using Linux since RedHat 6.2, but my distro of choice at the moment is Mandrake. My name is Matt Parker (though on Usenet I'm known as Cowboy Bob - don't ask unless you're into a certain US post-punk band with an infamous name - if you are then you already know!!). I work as a Senior Java Developer at a company that makes software for the advertising industry in Diss, Norfolk - though I live in Norwich. I did my stint at the UEA doing my Comp Sci masters thesis with active shape models as part of the, now famous, VisiCast project. At work I develop on Solaris, so together with that and my couple of years Linux experience I hope I can help some of the newbies out and maybe learn a thing or two for the "old" masters. Matt

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Re Welcome to ALUG
by Colin Davis 15 Mar '02

15 Mar '02

Thank you for your welcome mail, in fact since i joined i have been supprised by the activity. This being the first mailing list i have joined. Whilst not completely to new to computing i started playing around with the Acorn Electron ( perhaps a blast from the past). Then came a break for a few years. i started again in 1994 and have been using the dare i say it, the microsoft system. I had read a lot about Linux and started to get a hankering to try it out. My son who had recently installed Linux on his computer, The Mandrake 7.1 variation. Gave me a copy as a present. Due to pressure of work i have not yet had time to get really into it although i have read and purchased a number of books on elementary Linux. I could not hack it in 24 Hours as the title of one book suggested. Here i am a newboy or not so new really, wishing to learn something about the system. Without pushing my luck on the length of correspondence allowed could one of you learned gentlemen help. My system recently got its knickers in a twist so i decided to format the hard drive and start again, something i have done in the past. What is did not even think about at the time was that i would lose contact with my Linux partition. The system was dual booted via GRUB so i could either go into Windows or Linux. Now i can only get into windows which is not what i want. How can i format all of my hard drive and repartition the drive to enable me to reinstall Linux. Colin Davis

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richard stallman thing
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 15 Mar '02

15 Mar '02

Sorry if it has been mentioned in a post and I've missed it, but is anyone going to this? http://www.fipr.org/stallman.html Jen.

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Richard Stallman in Cambridge
by mtm＠sys.uea.ac.uk 15 Mar '02

15 Mar '02

Just saw that Richard Stallman is going to be in Cambridge next Monday afternoon (25th) to give a talk about software patents. I'm sure it'll be of interest to people on this list who can make it. htto://www.fipr.org/stallman.html -- >==============================================================< Michael Morton | Cthulhu loves me, this I know. School of Information | In my dreams he tells me so, Systems, University | And when the stars are finally right, of East Anglia, Norwich | He will give you such a fright. >==============================================================<

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Problem with linux mandrake 8.1 box on boot
by Ashley ＠ Turton 15 Mar '02

15 Mar '02

Hope someone can advise on the following. I went to boot one of our linux mandrake 8.1 boxes today and received the following error messages: Loading reiserfs module Mounting /proc filesyste, Creating root device Mounting root filesystem hda5: bad access: block=128 count=2 end_request: I/O error, dev 03:05 (hda), sector 128 read_super_block: unable to read superblock on dev 03:05 read_old_super_block: try to find super block in old location hda5: bad access: block=16, count=8 end_request: I/O error, dev 03:05 (hda), sector 16 read_old_super_block: unable to read superblock on dev 03:05 mount: error 22 mounting reiserfs flags Freeing unused kernel memory: 708k freed Kernel panic: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel I appears the partition hda5 has become corrupt somehow. Is there a way to repair it without reinstalling. I am keen to get the files of the partition if possible. Ashley

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Re: [Alug] backup puzzle
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 14 Mar '02

14 Mar '02

>> Just a thought, in a cron job, where does stdout go and can it fill up??? >> Chris Allen wrote: >Usually defaults to /var/log/messages. Maybe you'll see an error there. >You might want to change it to: >tar -cvzf $OF /var/www/ /home/cvs > /tmp/some_logfile 2>&1 Interesting! There is a series of log files started called panic, which list a panic because exim.conf file can't be opened, each time at exactly when my backup is set to run. I haven't yet got exim set up correctly running and haven't had time to look at it. I've done the above to trap the error messages that can't get through. I'll keep you posted on the breathtaking results. (I assume that if the logfile doesn't exist it will be created? And I'll just blindly trust you on the "2>&1" thing.....) Thanks! Jenny.

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Re: [Alug] jre for debian
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 14 Mar '02

14 Mar '02

Another quick Q on this, if I may?: Can I add this to an apt-sources list that is currently pointing to testing? Andrew savory wrote: ># - jdk >deb http://www.mirror.ac.uk/sites/ftp.blackdown.org/java-linux/debian potato non-free > >Then apt-get update and apt-get install j2sdk1.3 or j2re1.3 depending on >whether you want the developer kit or just the runtime. Thanks, Jenny

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Re: [Alug] Problem with linux mandrake 8.1 box on boot
by Ricardo Campos 14 Mar '02

14 Mar '02

> hda5: bad access: block=128 count=2 > end_request: I/O error, dev 03:05 (hda), sector 128 > read_super_block: unable to read superblock on dev 03:05 > read_old_super_block: try to find super block in old location > hda5: bad access: block=16, count=8 > end_request: I/O error, dev 03:05 (hda), sector 16 > read_old_super_block: unable to read superblock on dev 03:05 > mount: error 22 mounting reiserfs flags Are you sure it's meant to be on hda5? Other than that, this says to me that there is something to do with ReiserFS (i.e. it messed up the unmounting)- hence why ME can boot and linux cannot. perhaps boot onto a gnu floppy like Tomsrtbt http://www.toms.net/rb/ and fsck hda5, although I'm not sure if it supports reiserfs, since I do not use Reiserfs myself. Ok, so it's a stab in the dark.... Ricardo -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Re: [Alug] jre for debian
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 14 Mar '02

14 Mar '02

Andrew Savory wrote: >vi /etc/apt/sources.list and add: > > ># - jdk >deb http://www.mirror.ac.uk/sites/ftp.blackdown.org/java-linux/debian potato non-free > >Then apt-get update and apt-get install j2sdk1.3 or j2re1.3 depending on >whether you want the developer kit or just the runtime. That's brilliant, thanks! I wonder if the alug website would benefit from a list of similar type links to add to apt sources for debian users? Jenny.

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jre for debian
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 14 Mar '02

14 Mar '02

Hello list, Before i go to the bother of downloading this java runtime environment j2re-1_3_1_02-linux-i386.bin and installing it, can anyone tell me if there is a handy equivalent debian package ready to just rock 'n' roll? The wealth of possibilities in the packages has confused me somewhat. Thanks, Jenny.

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(no subject)
by tom potts 14 Mar '02

14 Mar '02

Hi, Im trying to get an Accura ISDN Terminal Adapter (external/serial port) functioning with RH7.2. Any tips/drivers anyone? Cheers Tom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

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Help needed to compile a C app.
by Paul 13 Mar '02

13 Mar '02

Hi Folks I'm fast running out of time trying to get a bunch of stuff ready for a conference in about six weeks time. In an attempt to convert a group of M$ devotees to the wonderfull world of penguins, I have hit a brick wall. I have a C/C++ application that I have been told will compile and run in a Microsoft environment - Whilst I can compile and test it under Linux, I don't have the tools for MS. Is there anyone in Norwich willing to attempt a compile for a W95 platform ? I have all the sources on a CD along with Tcl/Tk for the GUI frontend. I know it's a bit like asking CAMRA to drink larger.... Regards, Paul.

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Re: [Alug] backup puzzle
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 13 Mar '02

13 Mar '02

Chris Allen wrote: >On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 10:29:43AM +0000, Jenny_Hopkins(a)toby-churchill.com wrote: >> >> >> Interesting! There is a series of log files started called panic, which >> list a panic because exim.conf file can't be opened, each time at exactly >> when my backup is set to run. > > >It could well be that this is cancelling the entire cron job including >your backup. Yes. Excellent. Having somewhere for the 'v' option to send the output to has made the cron task happy. (As in >tar -cvzf $OF /var/www/ /home/cvs > /tmp/some_logfile 2>&1) I guess I had two ways of mending this then, what I did which was to give a file for the v output to go to, or remove the 'v' option, as someone else suggested. Now to the task of finding how to do a rotating cron thing that deletes the backup files when they are more than a week old, and my box backs up using a simple file at no cost. Unspoken dig at the extremely expensive backup software our ntserver runs. But it does have a *lovely* gui. (sarcasm intended). Thanks to all for help. Jenny.

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Mandrake financial status
by Ian Thompson-Bell 12 Mar '02

12 Mar '02

I just received an email from Mandrake saying they are in financial difficulties. They seem to be desparately asking people to sign up to the Mandrake Club a $5 a month. -- Ian

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Announce digest, Vol 1 #14 - 1 msg
by announce-request＠lists.alug.org.uk 12 Mar '02

12 Mar '02

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Xv
by Ricardo Campos 12 Mar '02

12 Mar '02

This may be a little silly but- anyone know how to take a screenshot of a desktop that has an Xv application (i.e. Ogle) playing on it? As Xv runs ontop of the desktop, you just get a blue screen normally. Minor problem, but annoying. ;) Ricardo -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Linux Web awards
by Ricardo Campos 12 Mar '02

12 Mar '02

Linux Format did a poll to see what their readers felt were the best internet applications. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15903 Just thought you might be interested! Ricardo -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Announcing a new subscriber
by peter.salmon＠ipswich.gov.uk 12 Mar '02

12 Mar '02

Dear penguinophiles, I have just subscribed to ALUG. I have been burrowing at Ipswich for less than three years after heady life in the City and academia (a kind of nut). I may not count as a true linutter as I support but three Linux servers which are RedHat 6.2 amidst a seething mass of Unix and M$NT but I am actively promoting the obvious & self evident advantages of Linux from within. I have successfully migrated a couple of Informix database systems and over 150 users from unix to linux and use Samba to seamlessly link & transfer data to and from M$NT servers and mainframe (ICL Trimetra). I am about to attempt installing Samba on a SCO unix server. I have just started a new project to create a linux based database system with web browser form access. Unfortunately the rapid and reliable linux server will be clamped to an ISS Web server servicing the users. Most of the difficulties I've experienced in implementation have taken much web searching and experimentation to resolve. There is an awful lot of information available but rarely an answer specific to my proble. Still I've learned a lot in experimenting and am willing to throw in my thruppenceworth if I can help. Regards, Peter Salmon Ipswich Borough Council Information Technology Room 1005 Civic Centre Civic Drive Ipswich Suffolk IP1 2EE United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0)1473 433220 (Direct) Fax: +44 (0)1473 433898 Email: peter.salmon(a)ipswich.gov.uk Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.

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