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Virii...
by brettp＠users.sourceforge.net 19 Feb '02

19 Feb '02

OK, now this is possibly one of the strangest requests that you'll ever get... I want virii, basically so that I can test/play with this funky java ScannerDaemon thing that I want to plug in to our server (free virus scanner, yay!). So, all those "really fun" M$ viruses that we all get from time to time, please bounce a copy this way! (works mail server appears to be filtering the main culprits, damn!) so, brettp(a)users.sourceforge.net is the way to go (I use imap on it from work, given that it redirects to liunuxfreemail.com) Thanks guys (and gals), Brett - The totatally insane virus hunting mad fool - Parker

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IP_Tables rulesets
by Ricardo Campos 19 Feb '02

19 Feb '02

As I'm trying to rewrite my firewall script (last one on this system was autogenerated). I'm trying to find a suitable one to crib from. I am a standard dial-up user but with a fixed ip address (I use demon). Obviously I need to browse the net, check my pop3 mailbox etc. and the only services I need to listen on is port 21, IRC and Instant messaging (i.e AIM and MSN). I do no forwarding/masquerading, as I'm not on an internal network. If anyone would like to send me example scripts to this e-mail address, it would be greatly appreciated. TIA Ricardo -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Bit of fun: Your first Linux distro
by Martyn Drake 19 Feb '02

19 Feb '02

Hi folks, Just for a bit of fun (since it's Friday) - what was your very first exposure to Linux and what was your first distribution that you ever installed (and can you remember the kernel version?!). For me, I was about to head off to university and became very interested in UNIX (and in particular, Linux) since it was beginning to make a bit of a splash in various computer magazines at that time. I got hold of a copy of Yggrdrasil Linux which boasted that it had 0.93 (or was it 0.98, I can't remember) of the Linux kernel. I had a relatively new 486DX-33 computer at the time with 8Mb RAM and attempting to run XFree86 on it was incredibly slow. I managed to persuade the folks that I needed more RAM, and eventually ended up with 16Mb which made all the difference which meant that I had a working X-Windows box that did keep swapping it's memory to HD and slowing the thing down to a crawl. Ah - those were the days... (he says with a small tear in his eye..) Regards, Martyn -- http://www.drake.me.uk http://martyn.drake.me.uk http://www.alug.org.uk

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Re: FW: [Alug] Slackware 8 - Cups
by MJ Ray 18 Feb '02

18 Feb '02

John: > Yes it does, but both Chris and I had no success in getting it to work > that way. The Apsfilter list suggested taking out lpr and putting in LPrng > to overcome `permission problems' [...] I have vague memories of the permissions in /var/spool/lpd being wrong, but I don't remember the specifics. That advice about lpr and lprng smacks of "Sprained wrist? Amputate arm!" You should be suspicious that the adviser has some preference for LPRng. In any case, as you probably discovered, the same permission problems will probably recur. If you can uninstall all but one print server and then send us a "good bug report" in the style of http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html and we'll try to help. All other things failing, it's probably safest to go with one of the *lpr* packages, as more people use them. > All I wanted was a controllable system which I could use to produce copy > for publication, save my research notes and connect to the Internet, and > print out papers for Editors. then I found GNU/Linux, and now I'm > addicted, I've even spent a huge chunk of last years pocket money on new > computers, and probably more on a huge GNU/Linux library which I have yet > to understand. Funny. Most people find that GNU/Linux means that they don't have to buy new computers as often and that there is a lot of free documentation and help available online. Maybe this is the impact of the new popular "Linux" movement with less tradition of LUGgers helping one another and huge "desktop environments" eating all the resources? -- MJR

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Re: Fwd: Slackware 8 - Cups
by John Seago 18 Feb '02

18 Feb '02

> I do not know where to go from here. Any help would be gratefull to me > as well as John Seago as I have got to install his printer as well. > > Some details of my system > > Slackware 8 > Kernel 2.4.17 > kde 2.2.2 > xfree86 4.2.0 > cups 1.1.14 > LPRng 3.8.5 > > Chris Drane > He's got to do mine as well as he's married to my Daughter, plus I've got a little out of balance with my drug regime,and reached the point where having successfully negotiated pressing enter to get Slackware to boot, It took me a very long time to remember how to log in. Severe vagueness has set in I'm afraid, I'll probably get a bit better when the warm weather comes. I am determined to learn this GNU/Linux thing, it's just the time scale gets longer every day, all I seem to learn is how much I don't know/need to learn. Still it keeps me busy. Some details of my system Slackware 8 Kernel 2.4.17 KDE 2.2.2 XFree 86 4.1.0 LPrng 3.8.5 lp (to be taken out) All the above handicapped by incompetent, drugged, vague operator, with short term memory loss. (It would be much easier if I could print out the Doc's How-to's etc., to follow the instructions, what's the bit that doesn't work, the printer!)

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RE: [Alug] php anyone?
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 18 Feb '02

18 Feb '02

Ted wrote: >BTW, I think it's time Jenny told in a bit more detail >what she needs to do when the web-page is accessed. >Is it any web-page, with a different action for each >web page? Or is it the same action for any access? >Is it simply access to the web-site as a whole? OK...the guy in despatch clicks a button in my ms access database (stop spitting) , which sends the out put in html format to the web directory. There is a link to this file from my intranet website so that anyone (and in particular my boss, who likes to keep a nice tight hold on credit matters) can scrutinise it with an eagle eye. If stuff is being omitted, I'll get my knuckles rapped. So it is just one page, I need to take the multiple pages access has generated and turn them back into one. This must be done before anyone accesses the page, but after the report has been run (daily). It seemed to me that when the page was accessed was a good trigger. If I can use the apache log file to trigger a script that does the appending, i would be delighted....but i now have half an hour left to mend this ugly oversight on my part ( I blame access) and don't know if I can understand this awk thing in that time. Mind you...or php...... (/me finds table and crawls under it with brown paper bag over head...) Now, how about if I try and use a file date changing as a trigger to run a file? So if the date on my html file changes (as the despatch guy sends a new one) it runs a script doing the appending...is *that* more simple? :-) Thanks all! Jen.

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Re: FW: [Alug] Slackware 8 - Cups
by John Seago 18 Feb '02

18 Feb '02

On Tuesday 19 Feb 2002 6:50 pm, you wrote >> This is odd. One or the other, not both. I'd go for the BSD-derived >> lpr, along with magicfilter or similar, as they're very very simple. >> LPRng is probably overkill for you. CUPS is nice when it works, but is >> a very monolithic solution. > > I seem to remember Slackware leaving an email about how to set up >> printing in the root mailbox after installation. Does it still? Yes it does, but both Chris and I had no success in getting it to work that way. The Apsfilter list suggested taking out lpr and putting in LPrng to overcome `permission problems', Slackware current has a Slackware package of LPrng to try to improve matters (for the same reason I presume), but in my case there have been that many ill informed attempts to get it to work, that I am seriously considering taking everything out and making a clean install, trouble is I lack not only the GNU/Linux experience but computing experience in general, (see previous post). All I wanted was a controllable system which I could use to produce copy for publication, save my research notes and connect to the Internet, and print out papers for Editors. then I found GNU/Linux, and now I'm addicted, I've even spent a huge chunk of last years pocket money on new computers, and probably more on a huge GNU/Linux library which I have yet to understand. -- John Seago Change is not synonymous with `progress'. PS there may be both a considerable delay in sending this and/or multiple posts again. Time to complain to BT about their Exchange again! John

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Subject: Re: [Alug] Bit of fun: Your first Linux distro
by John Seago 18 Feb '02

18 Feb '02

My Linux Notebook shows my first install was mandrake 8 on the 5th of the 7th last year, (this after two years of having Windows as an electric typewriter and nothing more; second-hand computer cheaper than new word processor). Moved up to 8.1 which showed every sign of becoming a Linux version of Windows by 8.2 so moved on to Slackware 8, which looks as if, if I live long enough I might just be able to catch up enough to be able to control it by the time I'm 70 or so. My insoluable problem, printing, it won't! But I'll have to get Chris my son-in-law to outline the problem. (I'm expecting his post to follow). John Seago

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Re: [Alug] Full archives of ALUG since June 2000 now on-line!
by MJ Ray 18 Feb '02

18 Feb '02

Martyn: > we now have a complete set of articles posted to the ALUG mailing lists > since June, 2000. [...] I've just found and uploaded emails covering the period April 1999 to May 2000 (Martyn, this is the file alug-original.mbox.gz -- pipermail may not like them). This leaves most of 6th, 7th and 8th June 2000 missing, I think. If anyone has files covering the missing period, please can you offer them to Martyn or myself? Nearly a complete history now... you see, you should have paid that blackmail demand at the last meeting, BJ! ;-) -- MJR

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OT Small html question
by John Woodard 18 Feb '02

18 Feb '02

Sorry to go off topic but I wondered if some one of you web designers out there could answer me a small question. How can I get the alt property within an <img src=...> to be pre formatted or at least can I get line breaks in it? i.e. <img src="mypicture.jpg" alt="some preformatted text with line breaks in it"> -- Cheers, BJ

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ip_tables/ kernel modules
by Ricardo Campos 18 Feb '02

18 Feb '02

hmmm... consequences of compiling my new kernel... when I do $iptables -L even as root, it doesn't recognise that iptables is there, and asks if I need to insmod. I'm pretty sure I compiled iptables into my kernel. In fact I explicitly remember doing it. #insmod ip_tables returns: no module of that name found. #modprobe -l doesn't show it, or ip_chains either I'm pretty sure I did make modules and make modules_install (cos I typed module_install and had to retype). And I'm also sure I compiled it in with a Y rather than as a loadable module (M). Any ideas? I want my firewall back! :'( TIA Ricardo -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Re: [Alug] Slackware 8 - Cups
by MJ Ray 18 Feb '02

18 Feb '02

Chris: > [...] test print I get this error > > client-error-not-possible Sounds very much like one of the infamous "can't happen" errors. This means that something has made the program get into an error case that should be impossible to reach. Nice, huh? > cups 1.1.14 > LPRng 3.8.5 This is odd. One or the other, not both. I'd go for the BSD-derived lpr, along with magicfilter or similar, as they're very very simple. LPRng is probably overkill for you. CUPS is nice when it works, but is a very monolithic solution. I seem to remember Slackware leaving an email about how to set up printing in the root mailbox after installation. Does it still? -- MJR

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RE: [Alug] php anyone?
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 18 Feb '02

18 Feb '02

Ted wrote: >I'm beginning to realise (stupidly a bit too late) that >you may be operating entirely in a Windows environment >and not in a Unix/Linux one No, you were correct the first time, my web browser is apache running under linux. I just didn't understand what you posted, is all. I'm but a fledgling! The web pages, however, will be accessed from windows machines. I have a nice little bash shell script all ready to run, but am still struggling with the php to execute it. I'm about to cheat and set up cron to run it every half hour so i can go home. But thanks all. Help appreciated. Just frustrated at my own shortcomings. Jenny.

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Announce digest, Vol 1 #10 - 2 msgs
by announce-request＠lists.alug.org.uk 18 Feb '02

18 Feb '02

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MobiliX response online (MJ Ray) 2. Alan Cox talking in Swansea (MJ Ray) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: MJ Ray <markj(a)cloaked.freeserve.co.uk> To: announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 14:05:16 +0000 Subject: [Alug Announce] MobiliX response online ------- Forwarded Message Reply-To: Werner Heuser <wehe(a)mobilix.org> To: list-obelix-en(a)snafu.de Subject: Obelix versus MobiliX: Legal Response Online Now Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:25:38 -0100 In the conflict between Obelix and MobiliX, the legal response of the lawyers Jaschinski Biere Brexl (JBB) is online now. In November 2001 Werner Heuser, owner of the Opens Source project MobiliX - UniX on Mobile Computers (http://mobilix.org) was charged by "Les Editions Albert Rene", which is owner of the trademark "Obelix". The charge aimes on a deletion of the trademark "MobiliX" and a compensation fee. Also every commercial use of the name "MobiliX" will be forbidden. Every offense can be charged with up to 250.000 Euro or as a substitute with six months prison. Werner Heuser has taken the lawyers Jaschinski Biere Brexl (JBB) (http://www.jbb-berlin.de) to represent him in court. His lawyers had to work out the legal response until January 21st 2002. The legal response (PDF, 22 pages in German) is online (http://mobilix.org/mobilix_asterix.html) now. The document describes the origin of the names Obelix (from "obelisk") and MobiliX (from "mobil" and "UniX"). Many wellknown names are used to show how widespread the suffix "ix" is in the IT business, e.g. often UniX derivates are named by this scheme. This is followed by an analysis of the pronounciation and spelling of the words Obelix and MobiliX, and whether they can be mistaken from members of the IT business or not. As a conclusion the charge is considered void. Since the suffix "ix" is widespread in the IT community, it seems possible that even more projects will be charged. This case is very important for the Free Software community, too. Therefore the lawyers Jaschinski Biere Brexl (JBB) have agreed to make the legal response public. The MobiliX (http://mobilix.org) site is dedicated to Mobile UniX systems. It leads you to a lot of useful hands-on information about installing and running Linux, BSD and other UniXes on laptops, PDAs and other mobile computer devices. Werner Heuser offers his Linux-HOWTOs and his book "Linux on the Road" there. Besides his work for MobiliX he is a Debian GNU/Linux maintainer. - -- |=| Werner Heuser = Keplerstr. 11A = D-10589 Berlin = Germany |=| <wehe_AT_mobilix.org> T. 0049 - (0)30 - 349 53 86 |=| http://MobiliX.org UniX on Mobile Systems: HOWTOs,Software |=| http://Xtops.DE Laptops+PDAs pre-installed with UniX |*| This is no time for phony rhetoric -- Lou Reed _______________________________________________ Discussion mailing list Discussion(a)fsfeurope.org http://mailman.fsfeurope.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discussion ------- End of Forwarded Message -- MJR --__--__-- Message: 2 From: MJ Ray <markj(a)cloaked.freeserve.co.uk> To: announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 21:17:06 +0000 Subject: [Alug Announce] Alan Cox talking in Swansea Possibly of interest to someone on this side of the country. Replies not to me, please. ;-) ------- Forwarded Message Subject: [uklugs] Linux Public Lecture in Swansea Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 11:30:33 -0000 Reply-To: "Margaret Day" <m.day(a)swan.ac.uk> Hi I work in the Dept of Computer Science at University of Wales Swansea. On 5 March 2002 we're hosting a public lecture, sponsored by BT Ignite, where Alan Cox of Red Hat will be presenting a talk entitled "Doing things differently - Linux past, present and future". It will be a view of the history of the Linux operating system, and the free software movement behind it. An assesment of where Linux is now, and a look into the future needs and challenges of the operating system. As a 'public' lecture we'd like to advertise this to as wide a group as possible and I was wondering if we could use your distribution lists? I saw from your website that there are 4 contacts within Wales that I guess I could forward the info to, but I'd be grateful for your advice as to the best way to get this info out to any interested parties. Look forward to hearing from you Kind regards Margaret Day IT Network Wales Dept of Computer Science University of Wales Swansea 01792 295881 ------- End of Forwarded Message -- MJR --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Announce mailing list Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce End of Announce Digest

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Slackware 8 - Cups
by Christopher Drane 18 Feb '02

18 Feb '02

This one has got me confused. I have installed Cups 1.1.14 on Slackware 8 to try and get my printer working ( Samsung ML1210 ). Using Konqueror to set up cups http//localhost:631/ I have installed my printer and it shows it as working, but it prints nothing. When I try a test print I get this error client-error-not-possible I do not know where to go from here. Any help would be gratefull to me as well as John Seago as I have got to install his printer as well. Some details of my system Slackware 8 Kernel 2.4.17 kde 2.2.2 xfree86 4.2.0 cups 1.1.14 LPRng 3.8.5 Chris Drane

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Full archives of ALUG since June 2000 now on-line!
by Martyn Drake 18 Feb '02

18 Feb '02

I have now integrated the old ALUG archives (when ALUG's mailing list was hosted on rabbit.stu.uea.ac.uk) into the current set of archives so that we now have a complete set of articles posted to the ALUG mailing lists since June, 2000. HTDig will soon pick up the additional articles and index them, so the archive will shortly be fully searchable! What's been integrated? All of the articles for the main discussion list and the announcement list between June 2000 and August 2001 when we were hosted on rabbit.stu.uea.ac.uk. Can I search the ALUG archives as well as browse them? Yes, simply visit http://www.alug.org.uk/search, or http://lists.alug.org.uk/search. The entire ALUG web site is archived, along with the announce, main, and social lists. Any complaints, problems, or funny jokes - please feel to forward them to me and I'll try and fix things ASAP. Regards, Martyn -- http://www.drake.me.uk http://martyn.drake.me.uk http://www.alug.org.uk

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RE: [Alug] php anyone?
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 18 Feb '02

18 Feb '02

This is all because msaccess outputs reports in html as separate pages and names them filePageTwo.html, filePageThree.html etc etc. The output html files are then sent to the web server, but the page I link from has the file link simply as "file.html" and thus other files are not displayed. of course, i could have a row of links, but they are not always needed and I think this is messy and could lead to misinformation if old data is displayed. So I've been doing the cat filePagetwo >> file.html up till now. Dearest of Teds - thanks for all that, I must admit to being a bit overwhelmed though. I was thinking to run a bit of php code when the page was accessed, to trigger the cat file2 >> file. The $bigfile = join(file("filename1"), file("filename2")); print $bigfile; suggested by Brett does exactly what I need....I just need to figure out how to run the damned thing now! (I do need to find out how to trigger a script when web page is accessed though, as I need to delete appended pages so they won't be appended the next day (if there is a page two one day but not the next the old page two will append when we don't want it).) Grateful thanks all. Jen.

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Re: [Alug] ip_tables/ kernel modules/GCC!
by Ricardo Campos 18 Feb '02

18 Feb '02

> Install the compat-egcs packages from the RH7.2 CD, and then edit the > Makefile replacing CC = gcc with CC = egcs. The other alternative is to grab > the 2.95 sources and compile your own gcc. I did a $find / | grep egcs and came up with egcs in /usr/bin and in the /usr/lib/gcc-lib I had a egcs-2.9.1.66 folder. Does this mean I need not bother with installing the compat-egcs. Would I totally screw things up if I did: #mv gcc gcc.bak #ln -s gcc egcs #mv g++ g++.bak #ln -s g++ egcs++ so that when I compile other things from source they'll automatically use egcs as well? Or am I trying to be too clever? lol Ricardo -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Re: [Alug] php anyone?
by Brett Parker 18 Feb '02

18 Feb '02

On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 03:32:54PM +0000, Jenny_Hopkins(a)toby-churchill.com wrote: > > This is all because msaccess outputs reports in html as separate pages and > names them filePageTwo.html, filePageThree.html etc etc. The output html > files are then sent to the web server, but the page I link from has the > file link simply as "file.html" and thus other files are not displayed. of > course, i could have a row of links, but they are not always needed and I > think this is messy and could lead to misinformation if old data is > displayed. So I've been doing the cat filePagetwo >> file.html up till > now. > Dearest of Teds - thanks for all that, I must admit to being a bit > overwhelmed though. I was thinking to run a bit of php code when the page > was accessed, to trigger the cat file2 >> file. The > $bigfile = join(file("filename1"), file("filename2")); > print $bigfile; > suggested by Brett does exactly what I need....I just need to figure out > how to run the damned thing now! > (I do need to find out how to trigger a script when web page is accessed > though, as I need to delete appended pages so they won't be appended the > next day (if there is a page two one day but not the next the old page two > will append when we don't want it).) You never actually need to generate the static page, also, if you *really* want to cheat, upload the files to a different directory (one that you know will only hold them) then using a small php script in the webtree concat all the files together and splat them out the other end, this has the down side of server load but the plus side of ease... <?php $content = ""; $d = dir("/path/to/files/"); while ($entry = $d->read()) { if ( filetype($entry) == "file" ) { $content = join($content, file($entry)); } } print $content; ?> as always - this is more or less off the top of my head, and hasn't been tested at all, I think that should work and will go > 2 files, not sure if the order will be correct thou. Would be more than happy to think some more about it if you want to go that route. Cheers, Brett

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php anyone?
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 18 Feb '02

18 Feb '02

Can anyone help me with a bit of php? I need to append the copntents of one file on to another when a web page is accessed. Cron is no use as the timing isn't fixed. I can append a line of text so far, but not the contents of a file, and as I'm away for the rest of the week and have been doing this manually till I find the fix, I'm panicking! - - help! Cheers, Jenny.

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Re: [Alug] input /output error on smbmounted directory
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 18 Feb '02

18 Feb '02

Steve Fosdick wrote: >In Linux, when you try to umount a filesystem and Linux says it's busy >that means that a Linux program has a file open on the filesystem >concerned. Often this is a program which was started with it's current >directory on that filesystem. > >Have a look at the fuser command which can tell you which processes have >files open on a filesystem so you can close them down or kill them off. >Once you have no Linux processes with files open on the filesystem then >you should be able to umount it. This is still causing problems. Anytime I try and gain information about this samba-mounted share, (including the fuser or umount commands) I simply get "Input/output error". I wondered if the fault lies in me changing the share to "full share" from "read only" from the windows side of things,while it was still mounted. (Changing it back doesn't make a difference). Jenny.

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 18 Feb '02

18 Feb '02

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.openprojects.net in the #alug channel, you can take a look at www.openprojects.net to get more info on the openprojects network. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server uk.openprojects.net" or "/server eu.openprojects.net" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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Re: [Alug] Bit of fun: Your first Linux distro
by willem koopman 17 Feb '02

17 Feb '02

I'm only a young whippersnapper(17), and learnt how to use a computer with a 386 dx 44(Which is still around somewhere with Doom2 yeah!).and Win 3.1 when I was 11. As my dad has been in the computer world for 25+ years he had been using Linux since 0.9X (with a smug smile as well) He always used to tell me that MS was really a load of poopoo. I upgraded computer and os to MS win 95. Then I dicovered the joys of Linux. The one thing that attracted me to linux was The Gimp. My first linux distro was Redhat 6.2 Ahhh the memories; trying desperatly to compile some game or other and wondering what the hell this make and make install buisness was about. one other thing that stick out in my mind is my dad showing me this thing called the world wide web, This must have been when I was about nine/ten. Ahh the halowed sounds of a 14.4k modem :) PS Who is the youngest person on this list?

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Re: [Alug] Contributions
by MJ Ray 17 Feb '02

17 Feb '02

Ricardo: > I thought I'd add some reviews of that kind, cos newbies tend to want to know > that they can do in Linux the same things they used to do on the Mac/Windows > - at least it was a major consideration for me when switching over. [...] Of course, the more long-time GNU/Linux users among us have trouble remembering what seemed particularly important to be able to do on the Mac/Windows systems we may have used before. How about opening this out into a challenge: Q - Got a task you don't know how to do under GNU/Linux? A - Ask ALUG! Oh wait, that'll be this mailing list then ;-) -- MJR

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Contributions
by Ricardo Campos 17 Feb '02

17 Feb '02

I've just added reviews for Downloader for X and Audiogalaxy Satellite in the Software Directory for the ALUG website (!!HINT!!) I thought I'd add some reviews of that kind, cos newbies tend to want to know that they can do in Linux the same things they used to do on the Mac/Windows- at least it was a major consideration for me when switching over. I also browsed the site before I joined ALUG/installed Linux after following a link from Linux Format... It's be nice to see other reviews on the site, I'm sure veterans and newbies alike could contribute something (hell, I'm a newbie)... (hinthint). It's dead easy, ya know! ;-) Ricardo ------------------------------------------- "Surely this monstrous hybrid comes not from a mother's womb but from an Ephialtes, an Incubus, or some other horrendous demon, as though spawned in a putrid and venemous fungus, son of Fauns and Nymphs, more Devil than man." -Athanasius Kircher, Mundus Subtarraneus, Amsterdam, 1665, pp.279-280 http://www.rscampos.net Check my online diary out: http://www.rscampos.net/blog.html -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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