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re:wireless networking
by tom potts 05 Feb '02

05 Feb '02

Further to other mailings how about a 'free' ISP? http://consume.net/ its off to a slow start but might be worth looking in to.. Tom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

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Trolltech competition
by Ian Thompson-Bell 04 Feb '02

04 Feb '02

I have just uploaded my beta software in the Trolltech competition to win a Sharp Zaurus. Has anyone else on the list entered? Ian

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wireless networking
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 04 Feb '02

04 Feb '02

Hi, last week on IRC there was someone by the nick of shadowtlx, who was interested in setting up a local wireless community network. Apologies with the delay in my writing this post for him/her as offered, I've been at home groaning with the 'flu all week. Shadowtlx lives in Norwich and is looking for people to build wireless networks with, using probably WIFI (IEEE 802.1lb) with wireless ethernet, i.e. a free internet, getting round problems of local loop (modems) being slow. A site has been registered as a speculative node on consume.net site, they provide software to run on the nodes. Anyone interested? Contact accus(a)btinternet.com (Hope I made sense of my scribbled notes there...it's all gobbledygook to me) Jen

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 04 Feb '02

04 Feb '02

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.openprojects.net in the #alug channel, you can take a look at www.openprojects.net to get more info on the openprojects network. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server uk.openprojects.net" or "/server eu.openprojects.net" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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KMail Problem
by Ian Bell 02 Feb '02

02 Feb '02

My emails to the group keep being intercepted by the moderator because Kmail is reporting my email address as a different one to the one I used when registering with the group. So I thought, no problem, just set up another identity in Kmail and use this whenever I post to the group. Just tried this and the moderator still intercepts. tried mailing myself and it seems no matter what identity I select, Kmail ignores it and uses the default. Is this finger trouble ot a bug in Kmail. Hopefully this will get straight through as I modified the default specially. Ian

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Re: [Alug] (RedHat) rsync-2.4.6-8 Update BROKEN
by MJ Ray 02 Feb '02

02 Feb '02

Simon: > James I believe was doing "the right thing" and I feel having a go at the > guy for being informative is bad form... Yes, in this case, I think it was probably right. > [...] I was under the impression that an open community was somewhere the > passage of information is accepted and not quashed.. I don't think you can draw that conclusion quite so generally. Yes, we love getting more information, but certain types of information have the potential to be very damaging if done in an uncontrolled manner. Generally, security alerts to this list are worse than useless, so they are "actively discouraged". In this specific case, there was probably justification for sending, though. > I'm sure that everyone has at sometime sent an e-mail that others have read > about before without getting this sort of reaction. Oddly enough, people don't tend to send me the typical junk "that others have read about before" any more. I wonder why ;-) -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] (RedHat) rsync-2.4.6-8 Update BROKEN
by MJ Ray 02 Feb '02

02 Feb '02

James: > I handed out a CD containing updates with this broken rsync on it at an ALUG > meeting, so in this instance I had a responsibility to warn the recipient, [...] Yes, in this case it probably was a good idea. In general, though, security alerts are best handled by people who can actually verify them. If you're relying on unsigned messages to open ALUG lists, you've got serious security problems already. In general, I beg everyone here to sign up to a security alert service from their service company, distributor or a recognised authority. -- MJR

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(RedHat) rsync-2.4.6-8 Update BROKEN
by James 01 Feb '02

01 Feb '02

Simon The rsync security fix released by RedHat was also broken :-( Many other distributions have yet to release any fixes at all. Make sure that you don't deploy the broken one from the update CD that I prepared (just) in time for the CLUG/ALUG Cheveley meet! (Best annotate the second 020126 Update CD with a warning) Here are the details of the new package: rsync-2.4.6-10; the full RHSA security notice is appended. It contains useful hints for running rsync to reduce security risks. The rsync included on the Update CD was the broken -8 version. This bugfixed release reached the European FTP mirrors when they synchonized in the early hours of this morning. --James -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [RHSA-2002:018-10] New rsync packages available Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 16:10 -0500 From: redhat-announce-list-admin(a)redhat.com Reply-To: redhat-announce-list(a)redhat.com To: redhat-watch-list(a)redhat.com CC: bugtraq(a)securityfocus.com, linux-security(a)redhat.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- Red Hat, Inc. Red Hat Security Advisory Synopsis: New rsync packages available Advisory ID: RHSA-2002:018-10 Issue date: 2002-01-23 Updated on: 2002-01-30 Product: Red Hat Linux Keywords: rsync signed unsigned daemon Cross references: Obsoletes: --------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Topic: New rsync packages are available; these fix a remotely exploitable problem in the I/O functions. These include the security patch from the recently released rsync-2.5.2. It is strongly recommended that all users of rsync upgrade to the fixed packages. 2002-01-28: There was an error in the original bugfix patch for the security problem - the new rsync could fail under some circumstances. This has been fixed in a new build. 2. Relevant releases/architectures: Red Hat Linux 6.2 - alpha, i386, sparc Red Hat Linux 7.0 - alpha, i386 Red Hat Linux 7.1 - alpha, i386, ia64 Red Hat Linux 7.2 - i386, ia64 3. Problem description: rsync is a powerful tool used for mirroring directory structures across machines. rsync has been found to contain several signed/unsigned bugs in its I/O functions which are remotely exploitable. A remote user can crash the rsync server/client and execute code as the user running the rsync server or client. The Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures project (cve.mitre.org) has assigned the name CAN-2002-0048 to this issue. All users of rsync should upgrade their packages. In addition rsync server administrators should consider using the "use chroot", "uid", and "read only" options, which can significantly reduce the impact of a security problem in rsync or elsewhere. Thanks go to Sebastian Krahmer for providing a patch for this vulnerability and to Andrew Tridgell and Martin Pool for their rapid response. 4. Solution: Before applying this update, make sure all previously released errata relevant to your system have been applied. To update all RPMs for your particular architecture, run: rpm -Fvh [filenames] where [filenames] is a list of the RPMs you wish to upgrade. Only those RPMs which are currently installed will be updated. Those RPMs which are not installed but included in the list will not be updated. Note that you can also use wildcards (*.rpm) if your current directory *only* contains the desired RPMs. Please note that this update is also available via Red Hat Network. Many people find this an easier way to apply updates. To use Red Hat Network, launch the Red Hat Update Agent with the following command: up2date This will start an interactive process that will result in the appropriate RPMs being upgraded on your system. 5. Bug IDs fixed (http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla for more info): 58874 - New rsync package corrupts files during transfer. 58878 - rsync segfaults 6. RPMs required: Red Hat Linux 6.2: SRPMS: ftp://updates.redhat.com/6.2/en/os/SRPMS/rsync-2.4.6-1.6.src.rpm alpha: ftp://updates.redhat.com/6.2/en/os/alpha/rsync-2.4.6-1.6.alpha.rpm i386: ftp://updates.redhat.com/6.2/en/os/i386/rsync-2.4.6-1.6.i386.rpm sparc: ftp://updates.redhat.com/6.2/en/os/sparc/rsync-2.4.6-1.6.sparc.rpm Red Hat Linux 7.0: SRPMS: ftp://updates.redhat.com/7.0/en/os/SRPMS/rsync-2.4.6-10.src.rpm alpha: ftp://updates.redhat.com/7.0/en/os/alpha/rsync-2.4.6-10.alpha.rpm i386: ftp://updates.redhat.com/7.0/en/os/i386/rsync-2.4.6-10.i386.rpm Red Hat Linux 7.1: SRPMS: ftp://updates.redhat.com/7.1/en/os/SRPMS/rsync-2.4.6-10.src.rpm alpha: ftp://updates.redhat.com/7.1/en/os/alpha/rsync-2.4.6-10.alpha.rpm i386: ftp://updates.redhat.com/7.1/en/os/i386/rsync-2.4.6-10.i386.rpm ia64: ftp://updates.redhat.com/7.1/en/os/ia64/rsync-2.4.6-10.ia64.rpm Red Hat Linux 7.2: SRPMS: ftp://updates.redhat.com/7.2/en/os/SRPMS/rsync-2.4.6-10.src.rpm i386: ftp://updates.redhat.com/7.2/en/os/i386/rsync-2.4.6-10.i386.rpm ia64: ftp://updates.redhat.com/7.2/en/os/ia64/rsync-2.4.6-10.ia64.rpm 7. Verification: MD5 sum Package Name -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3b33976775af0d04ce639915e5c7cb63 6.2/en/os/SRPMS/rsync-2.4.6-1.6.src.rpm 418e264b0ba45fb9d16deff259e462c4 6.2/en/os/alpha/rsync-2.4.6-1.6.alpha.rpm 441409bda25e79567d4a587994b84d76 6.2/en/os/i386/rsync-2.4.6-1.6.i386.rpm 35abb7066b5e5b7092465c33dd24085d 6.2/en/os/sparc/rsync-2.4.6-1.6.sparc.rpm ec10c0deb84328cc553449f4330f1cfd 7.0/en/os/SRPMS/rsync-2.4.6-10.src.rpm b756d3ddf8b2d34d5fe7c6b1a4c1d043 7.0/en/os/alpha/rsync-2.4.6-10.alpha.rpm 2e37e09c1f55d4d825e748a4a2005698 7.0/en/os/i386/rsync-2.4.6-10.i386.rpm ec10c0deb84328cc553449f4330f1cfd 7.1/en/os/SRPMS/rsync-2.4.6-10.src.rpm b756d3ddf8b2d34d5fe7c6b1a4c1d043 7.1/en/os/alpha/rsync-2.4.6-10.alpha.rpm 2e37e09c1f55d4d825e748a4a2005698 7.1/en/os/i386/rsync-2.4.6-10.i386.rpm 7895ca8e94476fe4868c07dad2f079ae 7.1/en/os/ia64/rsync-2.4.6-10.ia64.rpm ec10c0deb84328cc553449f4330f1cfd 7.2/en/os/SRPMS/rsync-2.4.6-10.src.rpm 2e37e09c1f55d4d825e748a4a2005698 7.2/en/os/i386/rsync-2.4.6-10.i386.rpm 7895ca8e94476fe4868c07dad2f079ae 7.2/en/os/ia64/rsync-2.4.6-10.ia64.rpm These packages are GPG signed by Red Hat, Inc. for security. Our key is available at: http://www.redhat.com/about/contact/pgpkey.html You can verify each package with the following command: rpm --checksig <filename> If you only wish to verify that each package has not been corrupted or tampered with, examine only the md5sum with the following command: rpm --checksig --nogpg <filename> 8. References: http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CAN-2002-0048 Copyright(c) 2000, 2001, 2002 Red Hat, Inc. _______________________________________________ Redhat-watch-list mailing list To unsubscribe, visit: https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-watch-list _______________________________________________ redhat-announce-list mailing list redhat-announce-list(a)redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-announce-list

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Mandrake 8.2 beta 1
by Martyn Drake 01 Feb '02

01 Feb '02

Just in case nobody has spotted it yet, but Mandrake has now released beata 1 of version 8.2. I'm currently downloading the ISOs and would be willing to burn CDs from these for those that would like them (£1.50 per CD plus £1.50 P&P). In other news, thanks to Rackspace, I have negotiated the rental price of the server that ALUG and it's mailing lists sit upon at a special discounted rate which is easily afforable for me. Many thanks to John Spears at Rackspace for arranging this for me. Regards, Martyn

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Web site contrib area live
by MJ Ray 31 Jan '02

31 Jan '02

Hi all, Some of the changes to the ALUG web site have now gone live. There is now a Wiki-based contrib area. You too can edit and contribute to the site at http://www.alug.org.uk/ -- all I ask is that you add your name to the page that you edit (probably at the end) and that you play with the "sandbox" area of the site and not with the main pages. If you hit any problems, email me and I'll restore it from the backups, or something like that. Thanks, -- MJR

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Python help needed
by Paul 31 Jan '02

31 Jan '02

Hi Folks Are there any python experts in the Norwich area who would be willing to give me a hand with some small .py scripts - I'm not an expert with this language, but I need to get stuck into a project that uses some, and could do with a bit of initial guidance/help. Regards, Paul. P.S. I'll buy the beers.

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RMS Lecture
by Earl Brannigan 30 Jan '02

30 Jan '02

Hi all, just to let you know, I intend to attend the RMS lecture at Queen Mary's University. Hopefully I will be joined by two colleagues. I shall be setting off from Sawston Cambs at 5:00pm, anyone needing a lift is welcome, but you'll have to get here. I have confirmed 3 places for the lecture although it is poss that one colleague may pull out. Thus I can take at least 2 Lugites along (FCFS) but poss more. If you have any contact with CamLug please feel free to forward this mail to them, may be that someone from that neck of the woods would use the lift, being nearer. Cheers Earl ******************************************** Earl Brannigan, Linden House Software LTD, 82 High Street, Sawston, Cambridgeshire CB2 4HJ www.lindenhouse.co.uk Tel : 01223 834383 ********************************************

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RMS in London
by Earl Brannigan 29 Jan '02

29 Jan '02

whoever it was..thanks for the post on the RMS lecture. Anyone hoping to attend, any restrictions on who may attend? I dunno, with RMS and Tony Benn on the road you'd think that there are people around who are interested in personal freedom from corporate tyranny. But that could never be.... Cheers Earl ******************************************** Earl Brannigan, Linden House Software LTD, 82 High Street, Sawston, Cambridgeshire CB2 4HJ www.lindenhouse.co.uk Tel : 01223 834383 ********************************************

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PCMCIA-CS Resources
by James 28 Jan '02

28 Jan '02

More on that interesting (but failed) attempt to get a Debian 2.2.18pre kernel Toshiba Laptop to talk with its PCMCIA network card at the ALUG Chevely meet last Sunday... First: an interrupt clash problem. Resolving that didn't help. One interesting workaround not tried was a recompile of the stock kernel / pcmcia-cs, including the ``irq_mode=0'' hack for PCI TI bridges (older versions of pcmcia-cs). Should have looked at the more recent release notes: (ain't hindsight wonderful!) The current version of PCMCIA-CS code on sourceforge is 3.1.31 (1st Jan 2002) Too recent for the 2.2.20 kernel.org kernel, even if it had been included... Not being PCMCIA orientated, I wasn't aware that this stuff is not a regular feature included with the kernel.org kernels. But - I expect to be futzing around with a Dell 2500 PCMCIA NIC "Real soon" - so thanks to all those that advised. Forewarned is forearmed... Here is a compendium of useful resources, found from: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=PCMCIA+Linux+Kernel+patch&btnG=Google+… Linux Kernel PCMCIA support resources; see: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/kernel/pcmcia/ ( Text Listing of contents follows ) pcmcia-cs-?.?.?.tar.gz PCMCIA Card Services for Linux. If there are several versions here, the latest may not be stable yet. CHANGES History of changes to pcmcia-cs package PCMCIA-HOWTO How to install and configure Linux PCMCIA support SUPPORTED.CARDS Listing of all cards supported by the current release. diffs/pc-?.?.?-?.?.?.diff.gz Patches for the PCMCIA package. These patches exclude some things in the doc subdirectory, because PostScript and dvi files are hard to patch efficiently. OLD/ Various past versions of the PCMCIA package. NEW/ Things that have not been thoroughly tested yet. doc/ Formatted (dvi and PostScript) versions of the PCMCIA-HOWTO and the Linux PCMCIA Programmer's Guide. contrib/ Drivers contributed by other people, which are not included with the core PCMCIA distribution. extras/ Extra packages that add functionality to the PCMCIA package. Currently, this directory contains the Forms Library (a GUI toolkit used by the PCMCIA control panel utility "cardinfo"). Other interesting links and information: Juan-Mariano de Goyeneche's Links to Key Documents for understanding the Kernel http://jungla.dit.upm.es/~jmseyas/linux/kernel/hackers-docs.html SWSUSP Suspend (no need of APM) and PCMCIA Warning / gcc version sensitivity http://falcon.sch.bme.hu/~seasons/linux/swsusp.html The PCMCIA-CS sourceforge direct links: http://sourceforge.net/projects/pcmcia-cs/ http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=2405&release_id=67945 http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=67945 ( Contents here as plain text ): Release Name: 3.1.31 Notes: This release has some fairly important bug fixes. Most important, if you run an SMP kernel, then the 3.1.28 and 3.1.29 releases were completely broken for you. This is fixed in 3.1.31, as is a bug that prevented PnP BIOS support from working with SMP kernels. This release should also no longer require the ``irq_mode=0'' hack for PCI card readers using TI CardBus bridges. Unfortunately, the hack is still required for Ricoh bridges because the interrupt tests done in the i82365 driver did not seem to always correctly deduce the right way to handle interrupts for these bridges. I've also added a few more sanity checks to the Configure script to catch more common errors. Changes: [01-Jan-02] Version 3.1.31 -- Changed cardmgr, cardctl to report their version info, not the version of the kernel PCMCIA drivers, on 2.4.* kernels. -- Changed i82365 module to always trust irq probe on TI bridges. -- Added tests to Configure script for 2.4 kernel debug options. -- Added 'realclean' target to top level Makefile. -- Added Nextcom NC5310B support to fmvj18x_cs, from Komuro. -- Added tests for 'gcc' and 'make', and sanity checks for module install directory, to the Configure script. -- Fixed CardBus CIS memory window management bug, from Rick Sulack. -- Fixed memory_cs driver to not oops when a block erase is attempted on a non-block-oriented memory card. -- Fixed HWADDR parsing in network script to be language independent. -- Fixed 'probe' to check alternate location for ISA card readers. -- Fixed bad SMP breakage introduced in 3.1.29 release. -- Fixed PnP BIOS support to work on SMP kernels. -=-=-=-=- Anyone care to contribute additional links to material they found to be useful when fixing up PCMCIA issues? --James

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penguin case
by John Seago 28 Jan '02

28 Jan '02

I am afraid that I have unfortunately forgotten the name of the person who was interested in this. A picture is available here:- http://www.colorcase.com/products/case/penguin/penguinbig.jpg and details here:- http://www.colorcase.com/products/case/penguin/penguin.html John Seago

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 28 Jan '02

28 Jan '02

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Announce digest, Vol 1 #9 - 2 msgs
by announce-request＠lists.alug.org.uk 27 Jan '02

27 Jan '02

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Forwarded message about Sheffield Linux Seminar (markj(a)cloaked.freeserve.co.uk) 2. RMS talking in London, 12 Feb (MJ Ray) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: markj(a)cloaked.freeserve.co.uk To: announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 12:05:15 +0000 Subject: [Alug Announce] Forwarded message about Sheffield Linux Seminar Organization: Sheffield Linux User's Group Subject: Linux Seminar Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 10:05:45 +0000 Reply-To: Richard Ibbotson <richard(a)sheflug.co.uk> Hi Just a quick note to explain about our seminar in February. If you would like to know about Samba 2.3 then you might like to come along and ask Jeremy Allison some questions. You might also want to talk to Georg Greve who is the president of the European Free Software Foundation. For more info have a look at.... http://www.sheflug.co.uk/seminar.html There will also be several other speakers who can probably give you some interesting facts. Although the whole thing is free and lunch will be served you will need to use the online registration form so that we can understand how many people will be coming along for lunch..... http://www.clubukonline.co.uk/local-events/Linux/linux.html we find that for some reason just the Netscape browser refuses to look at this page but I'm fine with Opera, Konqueror and Mozilla. Thanks -- Richard www.sheflug.co.uk --__--__-- Message: 2 From: MJ Ray <markj(a)cloaked.freeserve.co.uk> To: announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 10:57:16 +0000 Subject: [Alug Announce] RMS talking in London, 12 Feb It looks as though I'll be there, as there's a possibly interesting (to me) conference in London that day. -- MJR Reply-To: Alex Hudson <home(a)alexhudson.com> To: FSFE-UK <fsfe-uk(a)gnu.org> Subject: [Fsfe-uk] [Fwd: [Gllug] Talk by Richard Stallman in London, 12 Feb] For those unaware, QMUL = Queen Mary, University of London, in the East end. I don't know if I'll be going yet - I'm going to try - if there are any fsfe-uk'ers going I might try harder ;) I know it's preaching to the converted, but hey. Alex. - -----Forwarded Message----- > Tuesday, 12 February at 7pm > Skeel lecture theatre, the people's palace > QMUL Mile End Campus > http://www.qmul.ac.uk/travel/mileend.shtml > > RICHARD STALLMAN, software hacker (in the "geek" sense), founder of the > Free Software Foundation and of the GNU Project, and principal author of > some of the most important GNU software, will briefly be in London in > February. We are fortunate enough to have him come to Queen Mary, > University of London, at short notice to give a public lecture on > "Copyright vs Community in the Age of Computer Networks". > > Stallman has a long-held belief that software should be free in the same > way that mathematical knowledge has traditionally been free--this is > manifested in the GNU General Public Licence (and friends) and "copyleft". > > In order that we may gauge numbers, if you wish to attend the lecture > please contact Sue White: suew/rms(a)dcs.qmul.ac.uk or 020 7882 5217. > > > Lecture Abstract: > > Copyright developed in the age of the printing press, and was designed > to fit with the system of centralized copying imposed by the printing > press. But the copyright system does not fit well with computer > networks, and only draconian punishments can enforce it. > > The global corporations that profit from copyright are lobbying > for draconian punishments, and to increase their copyright powers, > while suppressing public access to technology. But if we > seriously hope to serve the only legitimate purpose of > copyright--to promote progress, for the benefit of the > public--then what must be done is either to reduce copyright > powers or effectively eliminate them, depending on the kind of > work. Governments must now protect the public's right to copy. > > > Background URLs about the GNU project, "GNU/Linux" and free software: > > http://www.uk.gnu.org/ > http://www.uk.gnu.org/philosophy/philosophy.html > http://www.uk.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html > http://www.uk.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-for-freedom.html > http://www.uk.gnu.org/philosophy/free-doc.html > http://www.uk.gnu.org/licenses/licenses.html > http://www.uk.gnu.org/copyleft/copyleft.html > http://www.uk.gnu.org/gnu/manifesto.html > http://www.uk.gnu.org/gnu/thegnuproject.html > http://www.uk.gnu.org/gnu/linux-and-gnu.html > http://www.uk.gnu.org/gnu/why-gnu-linux.html > > Richard Stallman's personal web page: > > http://www.stallman.org/ - -- Gllug mailing list - Gllug(a)linux.co.uk http://list.ftech.net/mailman/listinfo/gllug ------- End of Forwarded Message -- MJR --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Announce mailing list Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce End of Announce Digest

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Re: [Alug] Debian rsync update has problems!
by MJ Ray 27 Jan '02

27 Jan '02

> A disturbing report about problems with the Debian rsync > security update http://lwn.net/daily/ ... But no details seen. Details are thin on the ground. Allegedly, there is data corruption involved, but there is no reference about that on the debian lists that I have spotted. If anyone feels like doing a test... > Anyone on the list know exactly what the problem with it is? > LWN is not a source prone to spreading FUD. LWN have just done exactly that by posting rumours without reference or an apparent reason for withholding such a reference. Extremely bad journalism. -- MJR

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My neighbour's modem again SOLVED!
by bsamuels＠beenthere-donethat.org.uk 26 Jan '02

26 Jan '02

It was Steve Fosdicks suggestion of trying ps -ef that showed up the following: root 2487 1 0 20:09 ttyS0 00:00:00 /sbin/getty -w 115200 ttyS0 Commenting out the appropriate line in /etc/inittab solved the problem. Thanks for all your suggestions - we got there in the end. Barry Samuels

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Debian rsync update has problems!
by James 26 Jan '02

26 Jan '02

A disturbing report about problems with the Debian rsync security update http://lwn.net/daily/ ... But no details seen. I'm a RedHatter - but the Debian types using rsync should exercise caution with this update. Anyone on the list know exactly what the problem with it is? LWN is not a source prone to spreading FUD. --James

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My neighbour's modem again
by bsamuels＠beenthere-donethat.org.uk 26 Jan '02

26 Jan '02

I posted in the middle part of January about my neighbour's external modem that wouldn't dial out and failed with "NO CARRIER". This was running under Progeny Debian. The latest development is that we have discovered that it will dial when running in Single User mode on his machine but not otherwise. It will also work perfectly on my machine running either Debian 2.2 or the same version of Progeny that I've installed on his machine and with a simple ATZ initialisation string. Does this give any clues as to why it won't work on his machine? All advice gratefully received. Barry Samuels

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Update/Sources CD(s) available
by James 26 Jan '02

26 Jan '02

Now taking requests for CLUG and ALUGers that want RedHat 7.2 Updates but don't want to spend three days downloading them from a dial-up connection... Non RedHatters may still find stuff of interest on it, and can copy that from the CDs I will bring with me, if they don't want the RedHat rpms. So it may be worth your time to skim this post. Email me no later than 2100 this evening to get me to burn additional copies for pickup at CLUG CB2 or ALUG Cheveley. One 680Megabyte CD that I collated two weeks ago has been vastly exceeded by another 502 Megabytes of various bug and security fixes [1] - original posting ref I have also included the rysync update; this made it out to the distribution update FTP sites in the early hours of this morning. But AFAIK email list notifications have not been posted yet. Of particular note: I have included OpenSSH v3 rpms in addition to the RedHat production releases that only patched 2.9 Note also that the there are brand new install floppy images, this corrects a problem with some SCSI and RAID situations. I was unable to find any mirrorsites that had actually updated their image directories, even though they had synchronized with all the new rpms in most cases. New XFree / KDE / KOffice rpms feature. Anyone that wants more detail about the security and bugfixes in production updates: hop over to https://www.redhat.com/support/errata/rh72-errata.html Finished downloading all the updates around midday; now I have plenty of room on the second CD to include the most recent sendmail and apache tarballs for the more adventurous. I'll probably include the newest LSM selinux patches and the most recent kernel.org sources as well. apache 1.3.23 was released on 24th January, but it may be a while before the various distributions package it, as the most recent work has been focussed almost entirely on security related stuff. The latest sendmail tarball of 8.12.2 will be included (fixing the zombie processes that occurred woth the first 8.12 release) I will certainly bring two CD master copies with me. And additional copies for those that ask for them in advance. If anyone else wishes me to burn them a set of two CDs, please email me directly no later than 2100 this evening. Replacement with good quality 80m (700M) blank CDrs acceptable, discretionary tips from the less employment challenged are always welcome but entirely optional <G>. I'll be compiling the CDs later this afternoon, but obviously won't have time to do thorough checking of all the rpms (other than a crude md5 listing for later comparisons). So feedback from folks that use this stuff would be much appreciated, before I go through the process of re-spinning an installation CD. Then separate updating on new installations becomes much less of a burden. Longer term, as part of selinux work: I'll probably try to integrate filesystem crypto, IDS (snort), and various other goodies to bring it in line with the custom 6.2 distro that was commisioned for a commercial project last year. Place your orders! See you all on Sunday. --James [1] -------- Original Message -------- Subject: RedHat 7.2 Updates Anyone? Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 13:31:40 +0000 From: James <jtl1listmail(a)bigfoot.com> Organization: James - (jtl1-BF)

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My email block this W/E
by Ted.Harding＠nessie.mcc.ac.uk 26 Jan '02

26 Jan '02

Hi Folks, If anyone was thinking of emailing me about a lift to ALUG (or for any other purpose), please be aware that nessie.mcc.ac.uk (the machine that receives my email) will be down for most of the weekend (it seems it has already started) for a complete software upgrade. While I can still send mail, incoming mail will be queued and delivered in due course; but I won't be seeing it until nessie is back up again. Meanwhile, if needs be you can try phoning 01353 676 367 Sorry for any inconvenience, Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <Ted.Harding(a)nessie.mcc.ac.uk> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 167 1972 Date: 26-Jan-02 Time: 13:23:00 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------

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My email block this W/E
by Ted.Harding＠nessie.mcc.ac.uk 26 Jan '02

26 Jan '02

Chère Edith, If you were thinking of emailing me this weekend, please be aware that nessie.mcc.ac.uk (the machine that receives my email) will be down for most of the weekend (it seems it has already started) for a complete software upgrade. While I can still send mail, incoming mail will be queued and delivered in due course; but I won't be seeing it until nessie is back up again. Meanwhile, if needs be you can try phoning 01353 676 367 Sorry for any inconvenience, Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <Ted.Harding(a)nessie.mcc.ac.uk> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 167 1972 Date: 26-Jan-02 Time: 13:31:27 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------

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Dialler for X
by Edenyard 25 Jan '02

25 Jan '02

Dear Listers, Does anyone have any suggestions for me regarding a PPP dialler that will run under X? I've been persevering with Kppp for a while now, but it doesn't seem terribly stable and I'd really like to get rid of the bloat of KDE. I don't use it at all except for Kppp (much prefer icewm!), so it seems rather a waste of space to keep it just for a dialler. I've heard of Wvdial, but I understand that it's not a graphical dialler. Are there any others that you could recommend? Many thanks for any clues! Gerald.

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