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Apologies, Double Post
by John Seago 17 Dec '01

17 Dec '01

Imust apologise for double posting the same question to the list. I assumed as the first one did not appear in the next list, or the following one that it had not arrived, therefore I posted an ammended version on Sunday. I have found various suggestions for an /etc/fstab entry that will enable me to access, read and write to and from the floppy in various places on newsgroups and Slackware related sites, however none of them seem to actually work, (they probably do, I expect it's mainly incompetence on my part). John Seago

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Re: [Alug] Burning CDs
by Edenyard 17 Dec '01

17 Dec '01

On Sat, 15 Dec 2001 21:06:38 +0000, Andrew Bayliss wrote: > Main Menu -> Create CD -> Write Tracks -> Blank CD-RW (bottom right corner) > It's not exactly in the most obvious place I'll admit. This is in > 0.98alpha9. > Many thanks for that. In my rather flimsy defence, I tend to try all menu options and examine what they do, but I'm generally rather reluctant to go pressing a button labelled 'write' without having a good reason for doing so. Anyway - thanks again. It worked a treat! Gerald.

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Re: [Alug] Netscape 4.77 cache question
by Edenyard 17 Dec '01

17 Dec '01

On Sun, 16 Dec 2001 11:30:40 +0000, MJ Ray wrote: > Come on. A dead stoat can beat certain aspects of Netscape 4.77. Why not > compare it with Mozilla or Netscape 6 which has a little "offline browsing" > toggle? > Fair enough! You know that a lot of what I do is based either on laziness or ignorance and that's how I come to be using 4.77 - it came with slackware 8! I did install the Mozilla that came with same, but that seemed to take forever to load up and about the same time to actually do anything. If a Netscape 6 should come floating by, I'll have a go at that, but isn't it true to say that the higher a version number is, the slower it runs on old hardware? Don't forget I'm on an ex-skip P166MMX. before you groan and give up on me totally, let me tell you that this is quite an upgrade from my trusty 486DX4100 which I use for my work. I know, I know - there's really no hope for some of us, is there! Gerald.

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Re: [Alug] Mounting Devices as a user in Slackware (KDE)
by MJ Ray 16 Dec '01

16 Dec '01

> It worked nicely, emboldened by this success, and with my over confidence > fueled by prescription pain-killers, I extrapolated this from the above: > /dev/fd0 /home/john/fd0 ext2 noauto,user,ro 1 1 I have: /dev/fd0 /floppy auto defaults,user,noauto 00 Maybe you meant "auto" or "msdos" instead of ext2? ext2 can be used on floppies, but isn't very often. I think I usually run autofs to access the floppy, but this particular machine has avfs making floppies appear at /#a... I don't really recommend avfs for the masses yet. -- MJR

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Mounting Devices as a user in Slackware (KDE)
by John Seago 16 Dec '01

16 Dec '01

On Friday I wrote this into my /etc/fstab file: /dev/cdrom /home/john/cdrom iso9660 noauto,user,ro 0 0 It worked nicely, emboldened by this success, and with my over confidence fueled by prescription pain-killers, I extrapolated this from the above: /dev/fd0 /home/john/fd0 ext2 noauto,user,ro 1 1 (this latter 1 1 as access was denied otherwise), this succeeded in damaging the filesystem beyond what I could do to repair it. Is there an /etc/fstab entry which will enable me to access both the cd and the floppy as a user in KDE? Is this a question I need to ask on a specialist Slackware list? Many thanks for any advice you may wish to give. -- John Seago `change and progress are not necessarily the same things'

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Re: [Alug] Netscape 4.77 cache question
by MJ Ray 16 Dec '01

16 Dec '01

Edenyard: > A rare case of one up to the DOS browser, I suppose! Come on. A dead stoat can beat certain aspects of Netscape 4.77. Why not compare it with Mozilla or Netscape 6 which has a little "offline browsing" toggle? -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] ipchains replacement
by Richard Kettlewell 16 Dec '01

16 Dec '01

Laurie Brown <laurie(a)brownowl.com> writes: > Ian Douglas wrote: >> Thanks for the advice and offer of help. Unfortunately, as I >> mentioned, I am a bit of a newbie and have not fully found my way >> around the ALUG website, nor its terminology, yet. What exactly is >> the "ALUG lists passim" you refer to? > > Hi, Ian: my pleasure. "Passim" is old-fashioned shorthand (Latin, > actually) for "in the past" or "previous/ly". It means: look in the > archives! It means "here and there" or "throughout", nothing to do with the past. -- http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/

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Mounting Devices as user in Slackware 8
by John Seago 16 Dec '01

16 Dec '01

Yesterday I wrote this into my /etc/fsatb file: /dev/cdrom /home/john/cdrom iso9660 noauto,user,ro 0 0 It worked nicely, emboldened by this success, and with my over confidence fueled by prescription pain-killers, I extrapolated this from the above: /dev/fd0 /home/john/fd0 ext2 noauto,user,ro 1 1 (this latter 1 1 as access was denied otherwise), this succeeded in damaging the filesystem beyond what I could do to repair it. Is there an /etc/fstab entry which will enable me to access both the cd and the floppy as a user? Is this a question I need to ask on a specialist Slackware list? Many thanks for any advice you may wish to give. -- John Seago `change and progress are not necessarily the same things'

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Re: [Alug] redirecting into a command...
by MJ Ray 16 Dec '01

16 Dec '01

Simon: > rsh -l<login-name> <router-ip> sh ver "rsh -l login ip" on its own should get you a login shell. rcp is the usual way to copy files across, but "cat srcfile | rsh -l login ip 'sh cat >destfile'" should work if you have to. Hope that helps. -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] Netscape 4.77 cache question
by Edenyard 16 Dec '01

16 Dec '01

Many thanks to Ricardo and Ian for suggesting to set "Compare pages = NEVER". This seems to improve the situation but not cure it in all cases. It still seems as though it doesn't know where to look when it finds the modem not connected. A rare case of one up to the DOS browser, I suppose! Gerald.

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Burning CDs
by Edenyard 15 Dec '01

15 Dec '01

Having now managed to install my CD-RW drive and load up cdrecord 1.10 in Slackware, I've started to fiddle with actually making CDs. I downloaded Xcdroast and managed to get it to run, but I can't find any buttons at all that erase a previously recorded CD-RW disk and it seems that Xcdroast won't just simply write the new files to a previously recorded CD-RW disk. Am I missing something obvious? Is Xcdroast the best front-end for the CD-writing process? I picked it because I could get a .TGZ file already to install in Slackware. (Alright - call me chicken!) As always, all advice very gratefully received! Gerald.

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Re: [Alug] ipchains replacement
by Laurie Brown 15 Dec '01

15 Dec '01

Ian Douglas wrote: >>Laurie Brown wrote: >>I've done a fair bit of work on firewalls, and ALUG lists passim >>have a few examples. Shout if you need help. >> > > Hi Laurie, > > Thanks for the advice and offer of help. Unfortunately, as I mentioned, I > am a bit of a newbie and have not fully found my way around the ALUG > website, nor its terminology, yet. What exactly is the "ALUG lists passim" > you refer to? Hi, Ian: my pleasure. "Passim" is old-fashioned shorthand (Latin, actually) for "in the past" or "previous/ly". It means: look in the archives! Actually, the 'Net is the resource you need. I'll expand when I answer your other post. Cheers, Laurie. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Laurie Brown laurie(a)brownowl.com PGP key at http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371 ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [Alug] ipchains replacement
by MJ Ray 15 Dec '01

15 Dec '01

Ian Douglas: > The kernel I am using is 2.4.10 and I am wondering if this error message is > hinting that ipchains has now been superseded. Is there a modern > replacement for ipchains? If so then what is it and where could I find some > info on setting it up to protect my PC? Yes, there's iptables for 2.4.x (sure you can't upgrade from .10 yet?) and there should be guides to using it in pretty much the same places that tell you how to use ipchains for 2.2.x, I think. -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] Laptop error message
by MJ Ray 15 Dec '01

15 Dec '01

Ian Douglas: > means so I can learn how to interpret it myself rather than bother you guys > again? Oh yeah -- the other way to find out what it means is to figure out what is happening to trigger it... eg, in this case, it says apm, so does it coincide with the system suspend or something? -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] box crash question
by David Fairey 14 Dec '01

14 Dec '01

> Two questions: > 1. why would this happen? (answer 42 or fish?) > > 2. I have to re-enter all the network card stuff manually > insmod rtl8139 > route add network stuff > restart samba daemons > etc etc > each time the box restarts...a).why doesn't the rtl8139 module get > discovered automatically (it is in etc/modutils) and b)can I add all this > stuff to a startup script in debian? If you add "rtl8139" to the end of the "/etc/modules" file it should load the module everytime the machine boots. Then rest of the boot scripts will startup ifconfig and route before samba does. (Assuming you have all the correct entries in /etc/network/interfaces file for eth0). D.

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box crash question
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 14 Dec '01

14 Dec '01

Hi all, When I came in yesterday morning my box had done some form of crash. Couldn't telnet in, keyboard wouldn't respond, nothing. After nasty reboot and messy things I checked all the log files but could find nothing unusual, last /var/log/messages showed a check at 8.15 am then nothing. The box has a ups connected to give it back-up power so can't have been due to a power blip. Two questions: 1. why would this happen? (answer 42 or fish?) 2. I have to re-enter all the network card stuff manually insmod rtl8139 route add network stuff restart samba daemons etc etc each time the box restarts...a).why doesn't the rtl8139 module get discovered automatically (it is in etc/modutils) and b)can I add all this stuff to a startup script in debian? (Three questions cleverly disguised as two) Thanks, Jenny.

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Re: [Alug] Netscape 4.77 cache question
by Ricardo Campos 14 Dec '01

14 Dec '01

>When I click on the entry in > the hotlist sometime later after having hung up the modem line, I > should get the page back because it's been found in the cache. But it > doesn't. I just get the error box with the unreachable host message. Try Edit>Preferences>Cache. Under "Compare the page in the cache to the page in the network"- what does it say? Choose NEVER, I think the default is "Automatically". Why it doesn't just display the old page, I don't know. (So this might not be the answer, or maybe a bug) I've noticed that the cache seems to make less of a difference than in IE 5 on a M$ machine, at least in it's default configuration. Oh, the things we put up with for our love of Linux! ;) Ricardo "There are several codes, and I know several of them." -Mr. Precise. http://www.rscampos.net -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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redirecting into a command...
by Simon 14 Dec '01

14 Dec '01

Helppp.. Hi Guys, I'm trying to update a router config from a file remotely using rsh.. I know I get a connection as rsh -l<login-name> <router-ip> sh ver works.. But I want to update a few lines for the config, can someone give me a few pointers on how to either redirect or parse or whatever I need to do to get the data out of the file and into the router using rsh (preferably). Simon "It's hard to be fit as a fiddle when you're shaped like a cello"

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Re: [Alug] Laptop error message
by MJ Ray 14 Dec '01

14 Dec '01

Ian Douglas: > <1>Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address [...] > Firstly, does anyone know what is causing this repeated error message and > what I can do to cure it. That's a kernel fart, I think. My normal solution is to rebuild a kernel that's better suited to my hardware, and/or upgrade the kernel to a less buggy one. > Secondly, if I come across an error message like this in the future could > anyone recommend any info anywhere which would help me understand what it > means so I can learn how to interpret it myself rather than bother you guys > again? Your best bet is to search mailing lists and/or newsgroups on google and see what people like the kernel developers have said about the error. You'll probably have more luck searching on the interesting parts of the message like "Bad EIP" than "Null pointer..." which is quite a common error. Hope that helps. -- MJR

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Laptop error message
by Ian Douglas 14 Dec '01

14 Dec '01

Hi folks, I am a newbie user and have recently installed Linux on my laptop (IBM Thinkpad 560E). (Is this the first sign of Linux addiction??). The installation appears to have gone smoothly, however, I recently issued a "dmesg" command to look up some boot details and found it contained the following error message repeated several times: Code: Bad EIP value. <1>Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 000002bb printing eip: 00000008 *pde = 00000000 Oops: 0002 CPU: 0 EIP: 0050:[<00000008>] EFLAGS: 00010216 eax: 0000530a ebx: 00000001 ecx: 00000000 edx: 00000000 esi: 000000ff edi: 00000292 ebp: 00000000 esp: c3bebec4 ds: 0058 es: 0000 ss: 0018 Process apm (pid: 3059, stackpage=c3beb000) Stack: 00480026 c3bebf28 00000000 c0110813 00000010 c3bebf28 00000292 00000018 00000018 c3bebf66 000000ff ffffffff ffffffff c0110000 40100000 c0110a7f 0000530a 00000001 00000000 c3bebf28 c3bebf2c c3bebf30 c3bebf34 c3bebf38 Call Trace: [<c0110813>] [<c0110000>] [<c0110a7f>] [<c01117b6>] [<c014e838>] [<c01324d6>] [<c0106e63>] Firstly, does anyone know what is causing this repeated error message and what I can do to cure it. Secondly, if I come across an error message like this in the future could anyone recommend any info anywhere which would help me understand what it means so I can learn how to interpret it myself rather than bother you guys again? Ian.

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duel displays???
by Dryden 13 Dec '01

13 Dec '01

Can i just use two gfx cards connected up to different monitors... or do i need a duel head card like some of the matrox ones. Its just ive got 2 gfx cards and i would like to use them in X when im debuging programs. will i have problems if they are different cards with diff memory etc...? ********************************************************************** IMPORTANT: This email and its attachments are intended for the addressee only and may be confidential. If they have come to you in error you must take no action based on them nor must you copy or show them to anyone; please telephone us immediately. The contents of this email and attachments represent the views of the sender and are not necessarily the representative of the views of The College of West Anglia **********************************************************************

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Netscape 4.77 cache question
by Edenyard 13 Dec '01

13 Dec '01

Am I the only one for whom the Netscape V4.77 (Linux) cache doesn't seem to work? I have disk cache set to 20Mb, RAM cache set to whatever it came with, and the correct subdirectory in the home directory but it doesn't work as expected. I assume that, when I visit a site, the page that I look at is stored in the cache. When I click on the entry in the hotlist sometime later after having hung up the modem line, I should get the page back because it's been found in the cache. But it doesn't. I just get the error box with the unreachable host message. Maybe I've completely mis-understood how it's meant to work. But this is the way my little old DOS graphical browser works. Thanks for any ideas! Gerald.

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Everybody's Linux
by Laurie Brown 13 Dec '01

13 Dec '01

This looks worth a look: http://www.elxlinux.com See this write-up first: http://www.desktoplinux.com/articles/AT2800785910.html One plus seems to be that they appear to have used KDE, but included the Gnome libraries so GNUCash and Galeon work. Cheers, Laurie. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Laurie Brown laurie(a)brownowl.com PGP key at http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371 ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [Alug] Some advice or pointers please...
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 13 Dec '01

13 Dec '01

Simon wrote: I need a \"web based\" PIM/scheduler/calender type piece of software, anyone know of a good multiuser environment type application ?? I don't suppose this is anywhere near the mark, is it? (Way off knowing me, but I'm trying to be helpful before drinking sufficient black sweet coffee to get brain cells stirring in any kind of coherent fashion.)(We should all be hibernating anyway; ridiculous idea, getting up and going out at this time of year). http://www.zend.com/zend/tut/calendar-ver7f.php Jenny

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Re: [Alug] RE: Website
by MJ Ray 13 Dec '01

13 Dec '01

John: > yes, see: http://phpwiki.sourceforge.net Talk about hiding its light under a vat of very thick concrete! I can't find a feature list for this (including, most importantly, does it do versioning?) and the docs dir in CVS is empty. Or am I just looking in the wrong place? -- MJR

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