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Some advice or pointers please...
by simon＠sparksy.org.uk 12 Dec '01

12 Dec '01

Hi guys, I need a \"web based\" PIM/scheduler/calender type piece of software, anyone know of a good multiuser environment type application ?? Simon

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Re: [Alug] Web site
by Dryden 12 Dec '01

12 Dec '01

> Proposal: > - Move the ALUG web site to static core and a Wiki > Your options: > - Idly support this move (most people) > - Pledge to help maintain the wiki when it's online > - Mutiny (feel free) It sounds cool to me. Ill even try and help if i can... well ill do more then i do on the list but thats not hard. What about just adding a fourm to the site? Sorry i wasnt at the last meat... i got the bus times wrong for the X94 and would of been kinda L8 =P. ********************************************************************** IMPORTANT: This email and its attachments are intended for the addressee only and may be confidential. If they have come to you in error you must take no action based on them nor must you copy or show them to anyone; please telephone us immediately. The contents of this email and attachments represent the views of the sender and are not necessarily the representative of the views of The College of West Anglia **********************************************************************

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Re: [Alug] RE: Website
by MJ Ray 12 Dec '01

12 Dec '01

Ricardo: > Could the same be done with php? Would it require too much setting up? If you mean "are there wikis in php", I would expect so almost certainly. If you mean "can we allow arbitrary php in a wiki-style system", then hahahahahahaha no. > Could we use some kind of php Nuke/postnuke solution? (I might be missing > something here) I have one under development that we could use, but I didn't see ALUG as being that sort of site. Indeed, the Zope edition of the site had a squishdot which did SFA for its whole life. > Are these valid alternatives? It really depends on what we want out of it, > surely? It doesn't seem to clear to me what we actually want from the > site. Other than the basic info, it's no longer clear to me. I think it's to have some sort of "infobase" that we can store useful bits of info in easily for other group members. If we could attach files to it, it would get the suckers off the mailing list for good ;-) > We *should* consider some restriction IMHO, as there are plenty more > scriptkiddies and other destructive vermin than there are responsible > people... Pessimist. I disagree (about the numbers, not the need for some authentication). -- MJR

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RE: [Alug] Web site
by Peter Bassill 12 Dec '01

12 Dec '01

Hi all >OK, as part of my policy of announcing things about 17 years before I'll get >time to do it, I'm going to make the following proposal: > >Proposal: > - Move the ALUG web site to static core and a Wiki > Good Proposal >Your options: > - Idly support this move (most people) Sorry, I can idly support anything, i dont have enough blood in my caffine system > - Pledge to help maintain the wiki when it's online Pledge? Pledge? Like what americans do. Ill help support it yes. > - Mutiny (feel free) Is Mutiny not a hanging offence still? >Vote now :-) >-- >MJR Pete B Linux Maintainer / Developer and all round caffine addict

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RE: Website
by Ricardo Campos 11 Dec '01

11 Dec '01

Looked at Wiki-wiki. Looks like complete anarchy. I like it. ;-) Could the same be done with php? Would it require too much setting up? Could we use some kind of php Nuke/postnuke solution? (I might be missing something here) Are these valid alternatives? It really depends on what we want out of it, surely? It doesn't seem to clear to me what we actually want from the site. We *should* consider some restriction IMHO, as there are plenty more scriptkiddies and other destructive vermin than there are responsible people... Ricardo -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Re: [Alug] Web site
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 11 Dec '01

11 Dec '01

MJRay wrote: >Proposal: > - Move the ALUG web site to static core and a Wiki >Background information: > http://c2.com/cgi/wiki >Rationale: > - We're not keeping an up-to-date site > - People bitch at me variously about XML and CVS > - People bitched at me about Zope > - People will still bitch about the Wiki, but at least we should get an > up-to-date web site with no barrier to entry at all. aaaaaaww.. I was looking forward to having to learn CVS sometime. I vote: always do everything the hard way wherever possible! Why make life easy. >Your options: > - Idly support this move (most people) > - Pledge to help maintain the wiki when it's online > - Mutiny (feel free) However, as learning cvs may be several years away on the scale of things, I'll help maintain with wiki, yes. I've given the url the most cursory of glances, being pretty hectic today, but am I right in thinking *anyone* can change stuff - aren't we asking for it? ps. Can I mutinise, as well, just for fun? Jenny. >Vote now :-) --

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Re: [Alug] Web site
by MJ Ray 11 Dec '01

11 Dec '01

Peter: > Pledge? Pledge? Like what americans do. Ill help support it yes. No, all your furniture polish are belong... > Is Mutiny not a hanging offence still? Only if there are sufficient people left to oppose you. -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] Next meet?
by MJ Ray 11 Dec '01

11 Dec '01

Syd: > OK, so what is a suitable date? I like the look of the 20th. Any objections? 13th is probably too early for long holidayers (eg students)? -- MJR

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Web site
by MJ Ray 11 Dec '01

11 Dec '01

OK, as part of my policy of announcing things about 17 years before I'll get time to do it, I'm going to make the following proposal: Proposal: - Move the ALUG web site to static core and a Wiki Background information: http://c2.com/cgi/wiki Rationale: - We're not keeping an up-to-date site - People bitch at me variously about XML and CVS - People bitched at me about Zope - People will still bitch about the Wiki, but at least we should get an up-to-date web site with no barrier to entry at all. Your options: - Idly support this move (most people) - Pledge to help maintain the wiki when it's online - Mutiny (feel free) Vote now :-) -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] Next meet?
by MJ Ray 11 Dec '01

11 Dec '01

Simon: > Must get the heating sorted though.... May be able to get a dial-up > connection sorted this time as well. I'm quite happy to travel to Cheveley again, picking up anyone who wants to be collected from Ely or Newmarket stations (I don't think that's too much of a route detour). I would like to see us use a venue in King's Lynn in February if possible. The venue I'd been thinking of is not open at weekends, though, so if someone else in KL has a venue we can use, please mail me now ;-) -- MJR

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RE: [Alug] Next meet?
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 10 Dec '01

10 Dec '01

Simon P wrote: >I can get one together in Cheveley again ..... Cheveley is always excellent for me, I'm only ten minutes from there. It was a fine room, too, and the Cambridge bods can join us again. Jenny.

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Linux & the job market
by Ricardo Campos 10 Dec '01

10 Dec '01

I just had an interview with a recruitment agency up North, and we went over my technical skills. One thing that I found interesting was that although I have 2 years M$ experience, they talked almost exclusively about my involvement with Linux (which I casually mention on my CV in 'personal interests'). Unfortunately, with the economy taking such a nosedive, there were no jobs to offer me, but still, it's an encouraging thought. Seems there are a lot of ISP's in that area, and they want people with Linux/Unix/Solaris experience/knowledge. So, if you are a newbie like me, there's yet another reason to keep plugging away at this wonderful OS... Ricardo -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Next meet?
by Syd Hancock 09 Dec '01

09 Dec '01

I assume that ther will not be a December meeting but maybe we should start thinking of when/where in January. Any offers or suggestions? Syd

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Debian Cover CD/Programming Tool
by tom potts 07 Dec '01

07 Dec '01

Seomeone recently mentiond problems with a Debian Magazine Cover CD. Does anybody know of a recent one that I might be able to track down? Another one for some oldies out there - has anyone seen a programming tool for console that works a bit like M$ old C4 (Editor/compiler/linker/make/debugger) all in text? Thanks Tom ________________________________________________________________ Nokia 5510 looks weird sounds great. Go to http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/nokia/ discover and win it! The competition ends 16 th of December 2001.

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AMANDA, SAMBA and win 32
by Ricardo Campos 07 Dec '01

07 Dec '01

Has anyone on-list actually used AMANDA to back up Win NT clients over a LAN? Thing is, we currently use Veritas Backup Exec, and it's dead expensive, and not backwards compatible. It needs to back up _open_ SQL databases, Lotus Notes databases, hidden shares, the lot. It *appears* that it can backup open files, but I'm not wholly convinced!Anyone with experience? This is mission-critical stuff! Ricardo -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Looking for software
by Paul 07 Dec '01

07 Dec '01

Hi Folks I'm looking for a tool that I can draw a number of boxes on a canvas, enter text in the boxes and then draw a rat's nest of connecting lines between them. Easy enough so far, but I also want to be able to drag these boxes complete with text around on the screen and have any interconnecting lines "rubber band". i.e. I don't want to have to redraw the connections each time a box is moved. Does anyone know of such a program that will run under KDE or even Gnome ?? Regards, Paul.

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Linux advocacy in The Register.
by Laurie Brown 07 Dec '01

07 Dec '01

I don't know how many in here read The Register, but IMO, it's compulsory reading for any professional (or serious) IT people. Anyway, this is a good article on Linux advocacy, and one I found brought me up a bit short in one respect (Too clever? Moi?). It's worth noting that although the author talks of StarOffice 5.2, the new V6 is much, much better... http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/23245.html Cheers, Laurie. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Laurie Brown laurie(a)brownowl.com PGP key at http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371 ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [Alug] Security
by MJ Ray 06 Dec '01

06 Dec '01

Adrian: > So the bottom line is that OpenSSH has vulnerabilities too. Oh, I'm quite sure it does, but most of them are limited impact and they are generally different to the ones afflicting the non-free ssh server. -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] Security
by MJ Ray 06 Dec '01

06 Dec '01

Earl: > SSH - Anything pre 2.0 is vulnerable to a crc32 exploit yielding root > priveliges - upgrade now (30% of SSH Servers are still vulnerable to this > over 1 year since it was first made public). Can you tell me whether openssh versions are also vulnerable? I think http://www.linuxsecurity.com/ is another useful site. -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] Looking for software
by MJ Ray 06 Dec '01

06 Dec '01

Andrew wrote: > I believe Dia may be close to what you are looking for, try > http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia/ I second that. Dia is really quite a nice program for that sort of thing. -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] fetchmail
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 05 Dec '01

05 Dec '01

Doing it the manual way like this brings up the same errors I was getting last night using the fetchmail I'd just created. My account is trx850.uklinux.net USER trx850 +OK trx850 selected PASS Blahpootle -ERR cucipop: Invalid password or username (check case) I don't need to be old Sherlock to see the password is wrong. It's the one uklinux gave me when I asked them last week (after forgetting it, ha!); maybe they told me wrong, I'll get back to them. LATER This is what UK Linux Support said >I've taken a look through our logs and cannot find any dialin failiurs last dialin was about 10:20 on the 4th. >We've had some "glitches" recently, so I've manually update the your password on the servers. So it can't be the password after all. Well then, I'm stumped. Mark: fetchmail -vvv shows the usual cucipop: Invalid password or username - authorization failure message before quitting. If password isn't wrong, maybe username is some other variation on the possible theme.. Tell you what - this is a jen-being-thick-over-email problem not really a linux one, so I'll shut up now. Thanks for the hints. I'll get there! Jen

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fetchmail
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 05 Dec '01

05 Dec '01

Hi All, Look out, I'm in Full Posting Mode today! :-) Thanks to fetchmailconf and Adam's sample .fetchmailrc I have finally got a vague grasp of fetchmail. I got it to go and get mail from my freeserve account nae bother, but am having more difficulty with the new uklinux account. Does anyone have an account with uklinux and also have a fetchmailrc file they could send me a sample of the lines to put in for them? I've tried many flavours of insert but when it gets as far as the server I am turned down on username or password not valid. I'm being dense somewhere. Thanks, jen.

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Security
by Alexis 05 Dec '01

05 Dec '01

Does anyone know of any attacks which can be made against a machine which only has ports for HTTP and SSH open? Assuming I don't have any silly CGI going on. I'm only considering attacks which give the attacker a foothold. Fx. flooding doesn't count. Thanks, Alexis

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Missing Network Card Library?
by Ian Douglas 05 Dec '01

05 Dec '01

After sitting confused and bewildered as my free Debian cover disk CD asked an apparently never ending series of questions I have finally managed to successfully load it onto a spare disk to try out in my PC. Being very much a Linux newbie and feeling proud and confident after this mammoth achievement I thought I would try installing a network card by hand so I could start to learn a little more about how Linux is configured and works behind the scenes. I eagerly took my PC case apart and excitedly inserted an ancient SMC-Ultra 16 card, then, looking at my notes, saw they said I should login as root, change into the /lib/modules/"kernel version"/net directory, check the file "smc-ultra.o" exists, then issue the command: insmod ./smc-ultra.o before adding "smc-ultra" to /etc/modules, inserting some entries into /etc/network/interfaces and restarting /etc/init.d/networking. However, when I tried the above insmod command I got four error messages: ./smc-ultra.o: unresolved symbol ei_open ./smc-ultra.o: unresolved symbol ethdev_init ./smc-ultra.o: unresolved symbol ei_interrupt ./smc-ultra.o: unresolved symbol NS8390_int My notes, nor my little Debian text book, do not explain these errors, though flicking through other parts of the book I can see hinted after a similar error message that it may be due to "missing libraries". This would not surprise me as it is my first installation of Debian and it is highly likely that I omitted to install something I should have installed. I therefore have a series of questions, as, if I continue to experiment by trying things out by hand (rather than using any easy graphical tools) I think this may be a common problem I will come across. Am I correct in thinking that these errors are due to a "missing library"? If so then how do I determine the name of the library that is missing? Once I know it's name then how do I know where to look for it / discover what package it is included in so I can install it? Finally, if the program I wanted to install was a bit more obscure than a simple network card driver, so it was not supplied on the installation CD, where would be the best place to search on the internet for "libraries"? Sorry if these questions seem a bit stupid to you guys with experience but I guess you were newbies too yourselves many years ago, so please have patience. Ian.

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Re: [Alug] Evolution 1.0 out
by Ricardo Campos 04 Dec '01

04 Dec '01

>"I tried Evolution for three > months and it ate my inbox". Me too, only after 2 days! Hence my previous "mail clients" post, and the insistence that it does mail, and not all the other bells-and-whistles. Although saying that, Mozilla messenger did this as well. Luckily there was nothing too important in there! -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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