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Re: Re: [Alug] UEA Meeting - who's going
by Dryden 19 Nov '01

19 Nov '01

> I'll definitely be there, seeing as I live in Nelson Court anyway! > > There's a computer fair on in Norwich that day as well, so I'll no doubt > turn up with a freshly beefed up PC and a freshly lightened wallet ;-) > > Ta ta, > > Andrew WHere is the computer fair going to be? At the show ground (like always)? ********************************************************************** IMPORTANT: This email and its attachments are intended for the addressee only and may be confidential. If they have come to you in error you must take no action based on them nor must you copy or show them to anyone; please telephone us immediately. The contents of this email and attachments represent the views of the sender and are not necessarily the representative of the views of The College of West Anglia **********************************************************************

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UEA Meeting - who's going
by Ashley 19 Nov '01

19 Nov '01

I just released there is an ALUG meeting planned for next weekend at UEA. Is this still going ahead? Who's planning to attend? -- Ashley T. Howes PhD www.ashleyhowes.com "When all the animals of this world are gone, man will die of loneliness" ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 09:37:37 +0100 (BST) From: willaby(a)pgen.net To: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk Subject: [Alug] UEA Meeting booked. As per request. A room is booked at the UEA for 25th November, 2 - 6. Nelson Court B Common Room. Bye :) _______________________________________________ main(a)lists.alug.org.uk http://www.anglian.lug.org.uk/ http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main Unsubscribe? See message headers or the web site above!

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Re: [Alug] UEA Meeting - who's going
by MJ Ray 19 Nov '01

19 Nov '01

Pete: > Can some-one please give me directions on how to get to the meeting. http://www.alug.org.uk/venues/uea.html has details on UEA, but the update on http://www.alug.org.uk/ with details of this weekend's meeting won't appear until tonight, at best. -- MJR Anglian LUG http://www.alug.org.uk/ No ePatents http://petition.eurolinux.org/ FSF Europe http://www.fsfeurope.org/

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Re: [Alug] Apache mod_perl - Does it have the perl interpreter build into mod_perl or does it load it from elsewhere
by MJ Ray 19 Nov '01

19 Nov '01

Steve: > I have checked the docs that seem to come with the mod_perl > source but can find no instructions for the building of perl > itself, only the mod_perl module and apache. > Do you have a reference? Off the top of my head, I think it comes from the Apache guide to tuning mod_perl on their web site, but it was a long time ago. I hope that helps, but let us know how you get on. -- MJR Anglian LUG http://www.alug.org.uk/ No ePatents http://petition.eurolinux.org/ FSF Europe http://www.fsfeurope.org/

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Re: [Alug] lilo startup crash(mandrake 8.0)
by MJ Ray 19 Nov '01

19 Nov '01

> Finally i have a nice working email service that i can use > in collage(as you can tell from my email addy ;-). Cool. Got a room there we can use for the January meeting? ;-) > I have messed about with the config file for lilo [...] > Any one know what is wrong with this? In all likelihood, you goofed with the config, from the sounds of it. > ********************************************************************** > IMPORTANT: This email and its attachments are intended for the addressee only [...] Sorry, can you get another email address for your list subscriptions, please? I can't allow this kind of standards-breaching poop on the list, or we'll have to let everyone do it and double the amount of email we get. It's bad enough that certain email clients enjoy bloating the headers with useless guff... List config change: base64 bodies are now blocked, too. Please use PLAIN TEXT. Quoted-printable and 8bit are both allowed through. -- MJR Anglian LUG http://www.alug.org.uk/ No ePatents http://petition.eurolinux.org/ FSF Europe http://www.fsfeurope.org/

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Re: [Alug] UEA Meeting - who's going
by Peter Bassill 19 Nov '01

19 Nov '01

The non Base64 encoded version, dont ask me how it happened... It just did. Can some-one please give me directions on how to get to the meeting. Cheers Pete

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RE: [Alug] UEA Meeting - who's going
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 19 Nov '01

19 Nov '01

>can anyone tell me what to expect/what happens at the >meetings? If you have a brought along a box: rush in trailing wires, plug it all back together, network it up to any other boxes, and prepare to have your most tender secrets exposed to the anglian linux community ("What's THIS you've done to your php.ini file?") If you haven't: bring biscuits instead and eat them whilst watching everyone else being busy.

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lilo startup crash(mandrake 8.0)
by Dryden 19 Nov '01

19 Nov '01

Finally i have a nice working email service that i can use in collage(as you can tell from my email addy ;-). I have messed about with the config file for lilo (/etc/lilo.conf). this was so that i could added my new kernel as the default for startup but now my Linux box just freeze after the time to select an option is up. It will boot up fine if i stop the countdown and select my option. Any one know what is wrong with this? It seems to mount my hard disk drives in its freeze time as it checks my hard drives(with fsck) when i next boot it properly. If you need to see my config file ill put it on my site and post a link to it, just mail me back and ask. Dennis Dryden ********************************************************************** IMPORTANT: This email and its attachments are intended for the addressee only and may be confidential. If they have come to you in error you must take no action based on them nor must you copy or show them to anyone; please telephone us immediately. The contents of this email and attachments represent the views of the sender and are not necessarily the representative of the views of The College of West Anglia **********************************************************************

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RE: [Alug] UEA Meeting - who's going
by Peter Bassill 19 Nov '01

19 Nov '01

How does one get there? Can anyone give me directions please? -----Original Message----- From: Dryden [mailto:Ddryden@cmp.col-westanglia.ac.uk] Sent: 19 November 2001 13:03 To: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk Subject: Re: [Alug] UEA Meeting - who's going Ye ill try to come :) Itll be the first one ive been to... can anyone tell me what to expect/what happens at the meetings? ********************************************************************** IMPORTANT: This email and its attachments are intended for the addressee only and may be confidential. If they have come to you in error you must take no action based on them nor must you copy or show them to anyone; please telephone us immediately. The contents of this email and attachments represent the views of the sender and are not necessarily the representative of the views of The College of West Anglia ********************************************************************** _______________________________________________ main(a)lists.alug.org.uk http://www.anglian.lug.org.uk/ http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main Unsubscribe? See message headers or the web site above!

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Re: [Alug] UEA Meeting - who's going
by Dryden 19 Nov '01

19 Nov '01

Ye ill try to come :) Itll be the first one ive been to... can anyone tell me what to expect/what happens at the meetings? ********************************************************************** IMPORTANT: This email and its attachments are intended for the addressee only and may be confidential. If they have come to you in error you must take no action based on them nor must you copy or show them to anyone; please telephone us immediately. The contents of this email and attachments represent the views of the sender and are not necessarily the representative of the views of The College of West Anglia **********************************************************************

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re how do I
by tom potts 19 Nov '01

19 Nov '01

If you want to avoid the browser wrapping text in html the easiest way if to use the <pre> ...</pre> tags which displays any text in between "as is" - is short fro preformatted. If you are 'parsing' in log files to an html file then write "<pre>" to the output file and then copy the (I presume txt file) straight in (you might want to check for the </pre> tag and htmlise that just in case) and then slap the "</pre>" tag after it. Tom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

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Apache mod_perl - Does it have the perl interpreter build into mod_perl or does it load it from elsewhere
by Steve Fosdick 18 Nov '01

18 Nov '01

I have tried reading some of the mod_perl docs but didn't find the answer to this one... With a web server with mod_perl available, is the perl interpreter itself embedded in the mod_perl.so module, or does mod_perl.so load the perl interpreter from some external source, e.g. a libperl.so that is part of the systems normally perl installation. I am interested primarily to know if upgrading the perl version on a system using mod_perl will: a) cause the newer perl intrepreter to usedby Apache. b) break mod_perl by having perl modules that assume a recent version of the perl interpreter but actually get run under an older one in mod_perl. Does anyone know please? Steve.

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Gmix and Sound Card Identification
by Steve Fosdick 18 Nov '01

18 Nov '01

Hi, Does anyone please knoe gmix (the Gnome mixer) determines the type of sound card installed and which controls it has? Gmix used to be identify my card correctly as an ES1371 and offer me a record level control, but not gmix thinks it is a Tritech??? and offers no such control. In the absense of the control the record level seems to be set permanently to zero! Steve.

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Re: [Alug] Apache mod_perl - Does it have the perl interpreter build into mod_perl or does it load it from elsewhere
by MJ Ray 18 Nov '01

18 Nov '01

Steve Fosdick: > With a web server with mod_perl available, is the perl interpreter itself > embedded in the mod_perl.so module, or does mod_perl.so load the perl > interpreter from some external source, e.g. a libperl.so that is part of > the systems normally perl installation. "It depends." If you're just using the normal perl you get with most distributions, then I think mod_perl has most of the perl interpreter inside it. If you're using a perl built as the mod_perl docs instruct you to, then it's nearly all loaded in from a shared library. To be safe, recompile your mod_perl or install the two perls side-by-side. -- MJR

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I'm looking for suggestions
by bsamuels＠beenthere-donethat.org.uk 17 Nov '01

17 Nov '01

I want to upgrade my relatively elderly machine ( dual 233 Mhz pentiums) but it will probably mean that I won't be able to use my ISA modem as there are no ISA slots on modern boards. I want to avoid using an external modem. So I'm thinking of using an even older machine as a firewall/gateway into which I can fit my modem and a network card and then connect to the internet via that. I am running KDE 1.something and use a little utility called kpppload which displays a small window showing transfer rates in figures and as a graph continuously updated. I would feel lost without this as, if transfers stop, this little window tells me at a glance that rates are down to zero and it gives an indication if transfer rates are slower than they should be. If I set up this gateway as proposed it will not have X and therefore no little kpppload window. Is there any way of displaying data transfer rates on a standard console in a similar fashion (the graph is not essential) ? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Barry Samuels

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Translating source code
by Paul 17 Nov '01

17 Nov '01

Hi Folks Reading through a source file in preparation to port the code, I find half the comments are in Italian (I think). My knowledge of foreign languages is worse than C++, so I ran some of it through one of the free translation sites. Barely readable, and I *think* I now understand the comments but.... /* Se e' il primo ingresso nella procedura e ho letto un solo byte, allora e' arrivato lo 0x0F di risposta all-inizializzazione del touch controlloer */ /* Sto gia' leggendo un pacchetto normale */ Fed into www.freetranslations.com and it becomes: /* If it is the first entrance in the procedure and I have read an alone one byte, then is arrived the 0x0F to answer all-inizializzazione of the touch controlloer */ /* I Am gia' reading a normal packet */ Ain't Linux fun <g> Regards, Paul.

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SE30
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 17 Nov '01

17 Nov '01

Has anyone ever heard of an SE30? It's a tiny old all-in-one mac, with monochrome display and a 40M hard drive. My bro' is interested in installing linux on it. Then using to send/ receive mail. Possible? Jen.

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Re: [Alug] How do I...
by MJ Ray 16 Nov '01

16 Nov '01

> I'm trying to parse some info into a webpage from the logfiles. > which I 'm not having too many problems with. My problem is how do I add a > <BR> at the end of each line or prevent the browser from wrapping the > text.. What language, please, or do you mean wrap='soft' on a textarea? -- MJR

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How do I...
by Simon Parkes 16 Nov '01

16 Nov '01

Hi guys.. I'm trying to parse some info into a webpage from the logfiles. which I'm not having too many problems with. My problem is how do I add a <BR> at the end of each line or prevent the browser from wrapping the text.. Simon

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Re: [Alug] Linux server distro's
by Ricardo Campos 16 Nov '01

16 Nov '01

> FYI, it is possible to get broadband connections with RJ-45 presentation, > rather than USB Yup, they've asked for RJ45 instead. > Furthermore, check with the broadband provider if you can host the specific > services you need on their network. I would guess they block port 80 (for > web servers) at a minimum. Turns out they're ditching that idea anyhoo, it's just going to be a Debian based *internal* fileserver, and a router for the broadband conn. As a side note, I have in my grubby little hands, an 18GB SCSI Hard drive and an Adaptec AHA-2940U2W SCSI card, only the connector on the HD doesn't seem to fit any of the cables we have. It's about 2 1/4 inches wide (5.5cm), and very thin. It's wider than a normal High Density Male 68 pin. Does anyone recognise this kind of connection? We have no documentation (hell, we don't even know where it came from) and it's not the normal kind of connector I'm used to! >:-/ Ricardo -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Re: [Alug] Windows XP and Linux - dual boot
by Ricardo Campos 16 Nov '01

16 Nov '01

> Does anyone have experience in dual booting between Windows XP and Linux? I > understand it is not possible to resize a NTFS partition (so I'll have to > use partition magic to do it), but what about configuring Lilo? If it's anything like NT4/5, you'll probably need to install LILO on hda6, or wherever your root partition is. Darned NTLoader! I use xosl ( www.xosl.org ) to get round this- it's a truly lovely program, but as it's not in the least bit confusing it's not in all people tastes >;) I boot into XOSL, then choose Linux, or, if I *REALLY HAVE TO*, into Win98 or Windows 2000. The downside is that you'd need to create a partition for it lie on if your primary partition isn't FAT/FAT32(the documentation's really good but I don't have to hand). Again, Partition Magic or somesuch maybe needed. I found an article on dual booting Linux with Windows 2000 pro, and the issues surrounding NTFS and linux booting (no mention of partitioning: http://www.littlewhitedog.com/reviews_other_00011.asp Ricardo PS. I tried Windows XP at my friends house, and it gave me nightmares about giant Mickey Mouses taking over the world-they had the Bill's face and big ears. bluurgh! It really makes me want to puke! And all that registration s**t! AAAARGH!!!! Anyhoo, aren't there lots of lovely Macs at Turton? Much nicer! (When I win the lottery, I think I'll buy a G4) -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Re: [Alug] SE30
by syd＠toufol.com 15 Nov '01

15 Nov '01

As far as I remember the SE30 was one of the early 68000 Macs. In which case probably only mklinux is likely to support it. Having said that, the SE30 is very underpowered, possibly the equivalent of a 286, and may not be particularly useful for anything. The classic all-in-one cases do make very good aquariums and plant display cases though - plenty of web sites around to help with that :) Syd >Has anyone ever heard of an SE30? It's a tiny old all-in-one mac, with >monochrome display and a 40M hard drive. >My bro' is interested in installing linux on it. Then using to send/ >receive mail. Possible? >Jen. > > >_______________________________________________ >main(a)lists.alug.org.uk >http://www.anglian.lug.org.uk/ >http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main >Unsubscribe? See message headers or the web site above!

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Thanx 4 the help
by nicky 15 Nov '01

15 Nov '01

thx 4 the help with the netwotking issue ppl. now you are going to hate me....! all i need working now is my USB. in mandrake 8.1 it is supported but i prefure mandrake 8.0 and it dose not seem to work. is there a way i could use the USB support from MDK 8.1 cd rom to alow my USB to work under MDK 8.0 i have got 2 linux books but they seem to hard to follow as they dont seem to cover what i want hardwhere wise. nicky

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RE: [Alug] Linux server distro's
by Chris Glover 15 Nov '01

15 Nov '01

Hi Ricardo, www.scan.co.uk is the URL you need. Goto products and then hard drives, and scroll down to near the bottom, you'll find it listed as a SCA to 68pin/50pin Combo Converter. Scan charge £10 for delivery, so it might be worth you're while looking at the today only page as well :-) Word of warning, Scan are great on price, but hopeless if you want to send anything back. It took a month to get some faulty Ram exchanged, but I have bought lots of other stuff with no problem. If you're interested in setting up software RAID, it's fairly easy to do. Just partition the disks you want to RAID with partition type fd (Linux RAID autodetect) and create /etc/raidtab. Mine looks like this :- raiddev /dev/md0 raid-level 0 persistent-superblock 1 chunk-size 16 nr-raid-disks 2 nr-spare-disks 0 device /dev/sda1 raid-disk 0 device /dev/sdb1 raid-disk 1 Where sda1 and sdb1 are the SCSI disks, but you can use IDE disks, or even a parallel port Zip drive (OK, I was bored!). Then type mkraid /dev/md0 then mkfs -t ext2 /dev/md0 Assuming you have the correct module for your SCSI card loaded, it should detect the raid array at boot up. If not type raidstart /dev/md0 Hope that helps Chris Chris *************************************************************************** E Mail Chris(a)glovercc.clara.co.uk WWW http://www.glovercc.clara.co.uk ICQ 18054759 Someday, we'll look back on this, laugh nervously and change the subject. -Anon > -----Original Message----- > From: Ricardo Campos [mailto:corez23@linuxmail.org] > Sent: 15 November 2001 09:07 > To: chris(a)glovercc.clara.co.uk > Subject: RE: [Alug] Linux server distro's > > > > If the connector on your SCSI drive is a very long thin one > that looks like > > a flat printer cable connector, it is probably an SCA > connector. Scan sell > > SCA to 50/68pin SCSI adapters for approx. #15 plus VAT > > You got it- I just d/l the manual from the IBM site (god bless > the internet), and indeed it appears to be an 80 pin SCA-2 > connector. Sounds just right. What's the URL for Scan ? That's an > amazing price, especially if the cables support LVD (and > apparently they don't all do that). I can't seem to find that > kind of cable elsewhere-although I've only had a cursory look for 20 mins. > > Thanks for the help! > Ricardo > -- > > Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org > > > Powered by Outblaze > >

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Linux server distro's
by Ricardo Campos 14 Nov '01

14 Nov '01

Hi all. I had an amazing time last weekend talking to some friends who are programmers. (One programs PS2 games for SONY, the other is porting "a web browser" to work on "a portable device"- all very hush-hush). Obviously, I thought- Linux needs these guys (well, guy and girl). Anyhoo, they asked me to find out some info for them in regards to Linux servers, as they are getting broadband internet soon. It's roles would be: firewall/router and MP3 file server (they also make music). I guess they may want to serve MP3's using an FTP package, and resumable downloads may be a priority, as they would be serving dial-up users. I would imagine they would use a dedicated server, of minor spec (their last one was called Plank, and in fact, really was a plank of wood with a motherboard nailed onto it!). Not sure whether it's ADSL or Cable they're going for, but I suspect that the connection will be USB, which would necessitate a higher kernel version than most reliable/stable distro's supply be default. (They have UNIX experience, compiling a new kernel shouldn't be a problem for them). Given these requirements, does anyone have any suggestions/opinions? I'm telling them to look at Smoothwall, Engarde, E-Smith, Trustix and Immunix, at the end of the day they'll have to decide... Ricardo PS. Sorry I can't change my line wrapping, I use web-based mail, although I have asked the provider if they can... -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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