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ISP's
by John Seago 24 Oct '01

24 Oct '01

Thanks for that, unfortunately I tried Freeserve and whilst the 1616 number downloaded into my Windows partition, i was told, (by the call centre operator), to delete it as it was being withdrawn, and woe, woe, its not just BT that's affected by their exchange, Freeserve doesn't work either! Unless 25 attempts to connect, (auto dialed continuously at 35sec. intervals), wasn't a fair trial. John Seago

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locked directories -please help!
by Ricardo Campos 24 Oct '01

24 Oct '01

I can't access my cd-rom or floppy drive. In konqueror it says "you do not have enough permissions to read file:/mnt/cdrom. In the terminal I get: [ricardo@Azathoth /mnt]$ cd cdrom/ bash: cd: cdrom/: Input/output error and even as root: [root@Azothoth /mnt]# cd cdrom/ bash: cd: cdrom/: Input/output error In Konqueror, it is also described as a "locked directory". (It even has a big lock icon, just so you know!). [ricardo@Azathoth /mnt]$ ls -al total 32 drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4096 Oct 23 22:21 ./ drwxr-xr-x 18 root root 4096 Sep 17 18:30 ../ drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Oct 23 22:23 cdrom/ drwxrwxr-x 2 root root 4096 Oct 23 22:22 disk/ drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Oct 23 22:23 floppy/ drwxrwxrwx 11 root root 8192 Dec 31 1969 win_c/ drwxrwxrwx 27 root root 12288 Dec 31 1969 win_d/ here's my fstab file: /dev/hda6 / ext2 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /mnt/cdrom /mnt/cdrom supermount =iso9660,dev=/dev/cdrom 0 0 /mnt/floppy /mnt/floppy supermount fs=vfat,dev=/dev/fd0 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat user,exec,umask=0,codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0 /dev/hda8 /mnt/win_d vfat user,exec,umask=0,codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0 In /dev/ I have these permissions: [root@Azothoth /dev]# ls -l cdrom lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 Sep 10 16:09 cdrom -> hdc [root@Azothoth /dev]# ls -l hdc brw------- 1 ricardo cdrom 22, 0 Apr 14 2001 hdc [root@Azothoth /dev]# ls -l fd0 brw-rw---- 1 ricardo floppy 2, 0 Apr 14 2001 fd0 It does not allow root to change the permissions on hdc, fd0, /mnt/cdrom or /mnt/floppy. I'm stumped. They work in Windows (i.e. the hardware's OK), and I haven't changed anything (doing all the changes on my RH laptop- IceWM rules, btw, Owen ;-). What's going on? The same problem occurs in KDE, Gnome, Afterstep, Icewm and Blackbox. (Didn't try in Enlightenment, but somehow I doubt it is WM-specific!!!). Please help! :( Apologies for such a long e-mail, but I wanted to give as much info as possible. PS I think Mozilla did something weird with the formatting... "There are several codes, and I know several of them." -Mr. Precise. http://www.rscampos.net -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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ISP's
by John Seago 23 Oct '01

23 Oct '01

Does anyone on the list know of a reliable ISP providing unmetered access still using an 0800 dial in number? I ask as BT have changed me over from 08005879089 to 08089933004, despite knowing since May that the exchange I connect through will not connect the 08089933XXX number sets as it has not been modernised to do so. The 0800 ISP I had used since the number change, Nutshell, went belly up and ceased operating, I am therefore limited to pay-as-you-go through the mutual.net. Thanks in advance for any and all suggestions. John seago

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Re: [Alug] backing up whole directories/ X4.1.0
by markj＠cloaked.freeserve.co.uk 22 Oct '01

22 Oct '01

> Obviously > cp /etc/X11/ /etc/Xll.bak/ > doesn't work- there must be a simple way on the command line- anyone know it? Have you tried giving cp the -R flag? I usually use -Rpd (recurse, preserve, dereference) when making backups like that. See the man page for sure. MJR

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Re: [Alug] backing up whole directories/ X4.1.0
by Ricardo Campos 22 Oct '01

22 Oct '01

I ranted:- >Obviously > cp /etc/X11/ /etc/Xll.bak/ > doesn't work- there must be a simple way on the >command line- anyone know it? Oh, of course, use tar and gzip:- tar cvfp - /usr/X11R6|gzip -9 > X11R6.backup.tar.gz (posted cos I thought it might not be obvious to other newbies on the list- and so others don't have to reply to that part of the previous post- unless you think I'm wrong) Ricardo "There are several codes, and I know several of them." -Mr. Precise. http://www.rscampos.net -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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backing up whole directories/ X4.1.0
by Ricardo Campos 22 Oct '01

22 Oct '01

I got Xine working (at last), but the performance is terrible for a system with 750 Mhz processor, 256MB RAM, 32MB Geforce2 card- well, terrible compared to Vidoelan on Win2k. I'm running it off X3.3.6, so I'm thinking that maybe an upgrade to 4.1.0 would improve performance? I *have* got the nvidia drivers installed. In the install notes, it says to backup your existing X installation. Which folders would these be, I can think of: /usr/X11R6/ /etc/X11/ But I'm sure there are some libraries too. Does anyone know where they are?(This is on my Mdk8.0 box) The other problem is how can you back up a whole directory. Obviously cp /etc/X11/ /etc/Xll.bak/ doesn't work- there must be a simple way on the command line- anyone know it? Can anyone see any pitfalls? Like, would I have to reinstall Xine, or the nvidia drivers? That would be a pain, it took me long enough to get Xine working in the first place. Ricardo "There are several codes, and I know several of them." -Mr. Precise. http://www.rscampos.net -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 22 Oct '01

22 Oct '01

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.openprojects.net in the #alug channel, you can take a look at www.openprojects.net to get more info on the openprojects network. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server uk.openprojects.net" or "/server eu.openprojects.net" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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Re: [Alug] pcmcia/eth0
by Ricardo Campos 21 Oct '01

21 Oct '01

> > *DOES* shut down as well, using: > > shutdown -h now > > Erm, what command were you using? shutdown -h now The problem's solved. I issue that command, it kills the TERM signal, it says "Going into maintenance mode", then hangs for a bit (well, it *IS* only a 486) and then shuts down. I personally created an alias for the command (I couldn't find any other aliases), so it's all OK. Of course, I can't actually use the laptop for squat until I get my PCMCIA card working, but then I have a stack of HOWTO's (PCMCIA, Net, some other misc stuff) next to me to keep me going. If I fail with that, then it maybe another e-mail to you guys, failing that M$ windows is going back on. :( No use having a computer that is no use! :-/ -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Re: [Alug] OHP or some kind
by MJ Ray 21 Oct '01

21 Oct '01

oms101(a)freeuk.com writes: > thanks for having a look maybe I shall just do hand outs then We should ask the Union if theirs (which has been free when I've used it in the past, with a deposit required) can be taken out of their building. -- MJR Do you need advice about the Internet or particular net services? Why not talk to my employers? See http://www.luminas.co.uk/ for details.

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Red Lodge
by John Woodard 21 Oct '01

21 Oct '01

Do we have a confirmation of the date and time for the Red Lodge meeting yet? Cheers, BJ

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Re: [Alug] Fwd: Re: The Penguin danced this evening-
by MJ Ray 21 Oct '01

21 Oct '01

Paul <paul.corner(a)tesco.net> writes: > Thought a few of you might enjoy the fruits of some correspondance I've been > indulging in. Just wish I could think of a suitable reply. Why? He's right. Debian is the only simple avoidance tactic ;-) -- MJR

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Fwd: Re: The Penguin danced this evening-
by Paul 21 Oct '01

21 Oct '01

Hi Folks Thought a few of you might enjoy the fruits of some correspondance I've been indulging in. Just wish I could think of a suitable reply. Regards, Paul. ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Mandrake, Caldera, et al test your skill when it 's time to install -with each new Edition you blow the partition and wind up with nothing at all! Cordially, G. Crum Paul wrote: > 'scuse the cringe, but I had to reply in kind. > I'm afraid I'm out of practise with the five line stanzas. > Please remember, there is no such thing as a stupid question. > Just silly anzers.

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OHP or some kind
by oms101＠freeuk.com 20 Oct '01

20 Oct '01

I am probably going to do a short talk on ipc in linux and the array of options you have, at the UEA meet as I shant get to the red lodge meeting does anyone have a computer projector we could use for the meeting if not how about an OHP Regards Owen Date: 17-Oct-01 Time: 00:39:46

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Re: [Alug] Valid HTML ? Well formed snipit cirtainly
by MJ Ray 20 Oct '01

20 Oct '01

oms101(a)freeuk.com writes: > but what is wrong with > <a href="/path/to/myscript?foo=bar&mine=mine">this</a> Since when has &mine=mine been a valid entity? It should be: <a href="/path/to/myscript?foo=bar&mine=mine">this</a> ...if you're writing it as HTML. -- MJR

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Compaq Proliant 6500
by Simon Parkes 19 Oct '01

19 Oct '01

Anyone ever installed Linux on a 6500 Proliant, just my work are "disposing" of a few so I picked one up, with external RAID thingy... Just wondering if it's been done by anyone here? I'll bring it along to the next ALUG meet (if I can get it back into my car without doing myself and injury).... Simon

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Re: Update you Bookmarks was RE: [Alug] Red lodge meeting - going ahead?
by MJ Ray 19 Oct '01

19 Oct '01

Adam Bower <abower(a)thebowery.co.uk> writes: > Would it not be a good idea to kill the old UEA list now anyway so that we > don't get list fragmentation? One just forwards to the other, but I'll try to set up a vacation message when I next log in there. -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] pcmcia/eth0
by MJ Ray 19 Oct '01

19 Oct '01

"Ricardo Campos" <corez23(a)linuxmail.org> writes: > Funnily enough, that's what my box says- "Maintenance Mode", but it > *DOES* shut down as well, using: > shutdown -h now Erm, what command were you using? On most (all?) Linux systems, calling halt from a non-zero runlevel will invoke "shutdown -h now", but don't *ever* try that on another system. "telinit 0" is probably another synonym. -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] pcmcia/eth0
by Ricardo Campos 18 Oct '01

18 Oct '01

> btw if your x86 box is in runlevel 0 then it is switched off but on some > architectures it means the machine is actually in a system maintenance > mode but I have only ever seen this once myself on some very strange > hardware and may now be a nice legacy from the olden days of Unix or on > very odd computers. > btw if your x86 box is in runlevel 0 then it is switched off but on some > architectures it means the machine is actually in a system maintenance > mode but I have only ever seen this once myself on some very strange > hardware and may now be a nice legacy from the olden days of Unix or on > very odd computers. Funnily enough, that's what my box says- "Maintenance Mode", but it *DOES* shut down as well, using: shutdown -h now So, thanks NuTTer, you were totally correct. I'll be off to find an alias for this command (or create one that I'll remember). Ricardito -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Distributed.net
by Ricardo Campos 18 Oct '01

18 Oct '01

Fancy getting an ALUG team for the www.distributed.net challenge? The client is really unobtrusive... (it's running on a few servers here!). Let's do Linux proud! :) -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Re: [Alug] Red lodge meeting - going ahead?
by MJ Ray 18 Oct '01

18 Oct '01

Adam Bower <abower(a)thebowery.co.uk> writes: > I will try to be there, I think some of the camlug people may turn up. I'll be there, unless something unforeseen occurs. Adam had better be there. Anyone got a projector? Has camlug's list server gone titsup? My subscribe message just bounced, after a week of waiting. -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] pcmcia/eth0
by NuTTeR 18 Oct '01

18 Oct '01

Try "shutdown -h now" to halt the system this should unmount all the disks that are mounted on your computer...or are you allready trying that? sorry i cant help with the rest im a newbe myself. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Get your free email address today at www.nofx.com!

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Re: [Alug] UEA Meeting booked.
by MJ Ray 18 Oct '01

18 Oct '01

willaby(a)pgen.net writes: > As per request. A room is booked at the UEA for 25th November, 2 - 6. Nelson Court B Common Room. Which one is B? Quick rationale: we're no longer able to use the Hive because it is booked for ballroom dancing on Sundays and most other Union House venues are taken up by Ents. Nelson Court Common Rooms are no worse for unloading (their small car park is a short walk away) and are at ground level. The downside is no network, unless someone is able to plug wireless kit into tsw's office, which is almost line-of-sight... -- MJR

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Who knows about Diald ?
by barry＠beenthere-donethat.org.uk 18 Oct '01

18 Oct '01

Debian 2.2 - kernel 2.2.19 I have just tried to setup Diald without much luck. Having installed it I noticed that it tried to connect immediately after boot up. Why should it do this? I had changed the 'Connect' script to suit my requirements as per instructions and also the configuration file. I also noticed that rwhod was trying to contact the IP address (194.109.2.10) in the configuration file every 3 minutes. Is this IP address supposed to be a dummy address ? Am I supposed to change it ? When Chat was started there was an 'alarm' in the output after the modem initialisation although the script would go on to connect but the connection was almost immediately closed. I have now uninstalled it to prevent the very many rwhod messages in the log complaining that it couldn't contact 194.109.2.10. Has anyone installed it and got it working successfully? A few tips would be appreciated. Oh all right then, a lot of tips! Barry Samuels Professional Diald Dummy.

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Progeny Debian
by John Seago 17 Oct '01

17 Oct '01

further to my earliersubmission re Progeny Debian I have just had another go at getting it in, (same result). I then went to Progeny's site and found that as of the 1st of October it isno longer being developed and the last was on sale until the 15th, those who bought a set with support will be supported until December. see: http://www.progeny.com/archive/debian/ John seago

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Re: [Alug] Linux Distribution Sources
by MJ Ray 17 Oct '01

17 Oct '01

oms101(a)freeuk.com writes: > I don't know why one should not to get a Linux distribution from > where ever you find one. Magazine duplicators don't know enough about Linux to actually test the discs they produce and will quite happily print many thousands of the things that should only be used as drinks coasters. The magazine, if they know about the problem, don't usually admit it, as it makes them look bad. I can only think of one case where replacements were issued. Even better are books with CDs in with them :-/ Buy your CDs from someone who a. knows enough to test them properly; b. is honest enough to replace duds. That concludes this public service broadcast. -- MJR

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