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Re: [Alug] Linux and USB?
by Edenyard 13 Oct '01

13 Oct '01

Thanks for your response, Adam. > OK it seems as though there is a problem with some of the modules > somewhere. what is the output of the command dmesg when you plug the > camera into the machine? as that would be the first thing to check that > USB is working and the camera is recognised, the next step would be to > check that the SCSI emulation is working. > Here's the relevant part of dmesg: ================== Linux version 2.4.2-2 (root(a)porky.devel.redhat.com) (gcc version 2.96 20000731 (Red Hat Linux 7.1 2.96-79)) #1 Sun Apr 8 19:37:14 EDT 2001 [snip] usb.c: registered new driver usbdevfs usb.c: registered new driver hub usb-uhci.c: $Revision: 1.251 $ time 19:51:15 Apr 8 2001 usb-uhci.c: High bandwidth mode enabled usb-uhci.c: USB UHCI at I/O 0x5400, IRQ 11 usb-uhci.c: Detected 2 ports usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1 hub.c: USB hub found hub.c: 2 ports detected [snip] SCSI subsystem driver Revision: 1.00 Initializing USB Mass Storage driver... usb.c: registered new driver usb-storage USB Mass Storage support registered. hub.c: USB new device connect on bus1/1, assigned device number 2 scsi0 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices scsi: unknown type 2 Vendor: Model: Rev: Type: Printer ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Attached scsi generic sg0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0, type 2 resize_dma_pool: unknown device type 2 WARNING: USB Mass Storage data integrity not assured USB Mass Storage device found at 2 ================== ...and here's the output of lsmod: ================== Module Size Used by vfat 9168 0 (autoclean) usb-storage 31632 0 sd_mod 11856 0 (unused) sg 26592 0 (unused) scsi_mod 94336 3 [usb-storage sd_mod sg] parport_pc 17808 1 (autoclean) lp 5264 0 (autoclean) parport 25856 1 (autoclean) [parport_pc lp] autofs 11136 1 (autoclean) ipchains 38944 0 (unused) nls_iso8859-1 2880 1 (autoclean) nls_cp437 4384 1 (autoclean) msdos 5392 1 (autoclean) fat 32832 0 (autoclean) [vfat msdos] usb-uhci 20848 0 (unused) usbcore 49632 1 [usb-storage usb-uhci] ================== ...and when I type 'mount -t vfat /dev/sda /mnt/camera', this is the message I get: mount: /dev/sda: unknown device I've tried substituting /dev/sda1 for /dev/sda but it makes no difference. Any ideas, please???? Is the order of loading modules important? And is there any utility or command that will list what SCSI devices are actually available for 'mount'? Gerald.

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Re: [Alug] Linux and USB?
by Edenyard 13 Oct '01

13 Oct '01

On Fri, 12 Oct 2001 11:19:20 +0100, Jonathan McDowell wrote: > When you say "SCSI support is already loaded", what exactly do you mean? > SCSI support including SCSI disc support, or just SCSI support? > (sd_mod IIRC if it's a module) > It looks like it isn't even being presented as sda. > According to lsmod, I have these SCSI modules loaded: sd_mod 11856 0 (unused) sg 26592 0 (unused) scsi_mod 94336 3 [usb-storage sd_mod sg] Is that correct, or should I have something else SCSI-wise? Gerald.

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Re: =20 and now 3D as well
by John Seago 13 Oct '01

13 Oct '01

The latest main list displays, (on my Kmail) both myself and Syd's messages with the =20 on the turn overs, and now, on mine, 3D preceding it as well, (on some lines). What should have been obvious to me in the first place, has just struck me, it may not be that the =20 is appearing in what is sent but only in what is being received by me, at least Syd doesn't seem to think he is sending them on his system. As we are both using Mandrake 8, does this seem likely? I am about to attempt to install both Slackware 8 and Debian, use of these may solve my problem. I'm still battling with BT (full story on request), and beginning to think that I've backed yet another lost cause, would I be better off just walking, (in my case wheeling), away or carrying on the fight? (rhetorical question) -- John Seago "Change is NOT a synonym for Progress"

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EDI and X.400
by Earl Brannigan 13 Oct '01

13 Oct '01

Hi all, I am about to embark on an Electronic Data Interchange (EDI) project and have no real knowledge of X.400 (also specifically X.435), what it is etc, though I am getting to grips with the EDI message implementation I shall be dealing with. Does anyone know diddly about this stuff and if so please could you point me at some useful resources. I've been to ITU and registered to receive a couple of docs about MHS and EDI (well dissapointing to see them charging for their 'recommendations' documents - Dmitri Skylarov we love you!!). So far I know that I can set up X400 mailboxes in Exchange Server (cringe) but anyone who knows me would know that I would rather set up an enigma machine to decrypt 168bit 3des encoded messages delivered via morse signals over string and paper cups, transcribe them to phonographic cylinder with a sharp pencil and then forward them via carrier pigeon to the desk of the intended recipient!! But if I can do this in Exchange surely I do it with sendmail of something....... Also, I'd love to find some free software which can do the log-on, retrieval and extraction of EDI Messages from the mailbox. So far I have found a couple of proprietary thingies but again this doesn't appeal. Suffice to say I want to do it all under Linux... Sorry if this is a complete noddy email but as you can see I'm completely new to all of this. (I WRITE CODE DAMMIT!!) ;) If necessary I'd write a goodie to do the latter but I'd rather not (though I'll gladly contribute to any projects ongoing at the moment - as ever) Cheers Earl [earl.brannigan(a)lindenhouse.co.uk] www.lindenhouse.co.uk Tel : [+44] (0)1638 750780 Intellectual : Someone who can spend a whole day locked in a room with a tea cosy without once thinking of trying it on. Highbrow : Someone who can listen to the entire William Tell Overture without once thinking of the Lone Ranger.

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Re: [Alug] From out of the shadows...
by MJ Ray 12 Oct '01

12 Oct '01

"Mat B" <mat.bland(a)btinternet.com> writes: > My name is Mathew and I am a Perl programmer by trade (although I often get "Perl programmer" is a trade now? I thought it was a form of prostitution... ;-) /me runs for the hills and hides from his brothers. Seriously, I think I speak for all the cabal when I say "it's good to have you here". -- MJR Do you need advice about the Internet or particular net services? Why not talk to my employers? See http://www.luminas.co.uk/ for details.

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RE: [ALUG] linux and USB
by u9947868 12 Oct '01

12 Oct '01

I managed to get my Fujifilm Finepix 40i to work with my Toshiba Laptop under Debian 2.2r3 by updating the kernel to 2.4.9, which also meant updating the following utils/modules, check that they are all recent versions: The SCSI modules (they all changed completely for the 2.4.X series kernels) The mount utility USBDEVFS module/util (tells you what devices/drivers you have hooked up, under /proc/bus/usb) I think that should do. There were a few other utils that needed to be upgraded to run my current kernel but they had nothing to to with the SCSI system or USB mass storage devices, or USB itself. If I can get off of my bum and turn up to an ALUG meeting I might bring my laptop and camera if anyone has any trouble setting up their own stuff Pete

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Re: [Alug] Linux and USB?
by Edenyard 12 Oct '01

12 Oct '01

On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 20:20:45 +0100 (BST), Adam Bower wrote: > This appears to work for most people but I have also not got a camera > so can't check this but looking on a couple of resources on the net you > may want to do an > fdisk -l /dev/sda > to find which partition the camera appears at if mount /dev/sda1 doesn't > work. > I've tried that. I get no response at all: no error message, no listing or any other information of any kind. It just returns to the prompt. What does that signify? I tried 'fdisk -l /dev/hda', just as a sanity check really. That gave me some output. But using /dev/sda it just doesn't want to know. I tried /dev/sda1, too - same result. What's up with this /dev/sda thing? Gerald.

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From out of the shadows...
by Mat B 12 Oct '01

12 Oct '01

Hi, I thought I might as well introduce myself and stop my lurking. My name is Mathew and I am a Perl programmer by trade (although I often get up to other things) and I work at home in a small town called Stowmarket in Suffolk. I started using Linux about 3-4 years ago, but have only picked it up again for a serious crack at it just recently. So for all intents and purposes I am a Linux newbie (so please don't hurt me if I ask some stupid questions). My current distro is Mandrake 7.2 which I am finding quite user friendly and helps a lot in the process of weening me off Windows. I hope to be able to make some meets soon, but work schedule is often hectic and I don't get much free time :( Anyhoo, its been great lurking so far. Hopefully one day I'll be able to contribute in a helpful manner :) Cheers, Mat

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This is weird...
by Ricardo Campos 12 Oct '01

12 Oct '01

OK. This is weird. In the new Linux Format, there is a letter by "Steve Bates" about Enlightenment, and how it crashes with "missing line in config". If anyone has kept an archive of messages from the main list, look at my post with the subject "Crash". VERY VERY similar. In fact the printed one seems to be the same except for it's been trimmed down... Did someone forward the message to Linux Format? Ricardo -- Love Ricardo, "Surely this monstrous hybrid comes not from a mother's womb but from an Ephialtes, an Incubus, or some other horrendous demon, as though spawned in a putrid and venemous fungus, son of Fauns and Nymphs, more Devil than man." -Athanasius Kircher, Mundus Subtarraneus, Amsterdam, 1665, pp.279-280 http://www.rscampos.net Get your @hellokitty.com FREE e-mail account at http://www.sanriotown.com Sanrio Town - Your Ultimate Community to meet Sanrio character & friends. Powered by Outblaze

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Re: [Alug] Re: Samba problem
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 12 Oct '01

12 Oct '01

Mat B wrote: >I found the problem, I had neglected to uncomment two lines in the smb.conf. >A victim of my own stupidity again... What were they? I remember I had this problem; I've been looking through my notes to see how i sorted it, but don't seem to have written anything down about the problem. Jen

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Samba problem
by Mat B 12 Oct '01

12 Oct '01

Hi, I'm running Mandrake 7.2 on the spare box on my LAN and I decided it was time to stop using FTP to transfer files to it and to start using Samba to share files with the two windows boxes. After much messing about with smb.conf,smbd and nmbd, I managed to get the Linux box to show up in the Windows Network Neighbourhood. Unfortunately, whenever I try to access the shares on the Linux box it asks me for a password. I cannot find any password in the smb.conf and whatever passwords I submit using smbpasswd don't work either. Does anyone know why this is happening? (Sorry if I'm being a bit vague anywhere) TIA, Mat

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=20
by John Seago 12 Oct '01

12 Oct '01

The messages I received from you last nightwere ok, (no =20), but your postto the =20, I'll see if mine, doif this is posted I have only noticed thisproblem when posting to the list, (unless those I've replied to individually know otherwise), I can only conclude that it is caused by part of the route between ourselves and the List, I live in Halesworth, East Suffolk, and am connected via the 01986 (Bungay Exchange), which Bt Anytime claim is unmodenised and therefore unable to cope with my internet connectionat all. John Seago "Change is NOT a synonym for Progress"

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Kmail, line endings and char sets
by Syd Hancock 12 Oct '01

12 Oct '01

Hi all Still battling with the basics. Do my posts appear with =20 line ends (can't remember if these represent CR or LF)? Apparently they do for some list readers. I am using Kmail 1.2 (KDE 2.1.1, mandrake 8.0). A general question: what is the recommended char set to use? And a KDE question - char sets seem to be set both under Settings>Configuration>Composer>Default Charset (main window) and under Options>Set Encoding in the composer window. How do these settings inter-relate? Finally, I have just noticed that word-wrap was set to 78. I have reset this to 68 and would appreciate any comments about whether this has improved things in any way. cheers Syd

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Xine
by Ricardo Campos 12 Oct '01

12 Oct '01

Has anyone got Xine working on their system yet? It's being a bit of a pig. I have installed pretty much all the plugins (incl. the decss one and another for 'encrypted' DVDs)except one, which was not meant to be essential - dx3r I think it was called. I have ln -s /dev/cdrom /dev/dvd mount /mnt/cdrom /mnt/dvd Xine recognises that there is a DVD drive there, it recognises the .VBO files, but I get no output. One thing I think may be a problem is that I haven't set MTRR. (ref. Linux DVD howto). This requires my starting X and outputting to file so I can read a few configs of my videocard- e.g. it's base memory address. Unfortunately I can't do this from within Gnome or KDE. My system boots straight into an X environment (KDE). How can I stop X and go to the command line and startx 2> xoutput (xoutput being a fairly good name for the output of x ;) ) Is it just stopx ? Anyone had any success? Anything else you can think for me to consider? I have a Geforce 2 MX card, with the appropriate drivers and kernel from nvidia. Ricardo -- Love Ricardo, "Surely this monstrous hybrid comes not from a mother's womb but from an Ephialtes, an Incubus, or some other horrendous demon, as though spawned in a putrid and venemous fungus, son of Fauns and Nymphs, more Devil than man." -Athanasius Kircher, Mundus Subtarraneus, Amsterdam, 1665, pp.279-280 http://www.rscampos.net Get your @hellokitty.com FREE e-mail account at http://www.sanriotown.com Sanrio Town - Your Ultimate Community to meet Sanrio character & friends. Powered by Outblaze

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Re: [Alug] Linux and USB?
by Edenyard 12 Oct '01

12 Oct '01

On 11 Oct 2001 19:58:33 +0000, Willaby <willaby(a)pgen.net> wrote: > Ive not got a camera, but I suspect you need '/dev/sda1' so... > 'mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/camera' > That meets with an identical response to just /dev/sda! Somehow it just doesn't seem to understand that there's something there.... Gerald.

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Re: [Alug] Linux and USB?
by Edenyard 12 Oct '01

12 Oct '01

On 11 Oct 2001 22:14:04 +0100, MJ Ray wrote: > Out of interest, why would a USB device appear as a SCSI one? > Well - as I understand it (which isn't perfectly), there's some sort of emulation going on between SCSI and the USB memory device in the camera, so that the images stored in the camera APPEAR to be files on a SCSI device. The SCSI device doesn't really exist of course, but looks as though it does, so that you can read these 'files' (camera images) via it. As I said - my understanding isn't perfect, or even adequate.... Gerald.

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Re: [Alug] Linux and USB?
by MJ Ray 12 Oct '01

12 Oct '01

"Edenyard" <mail(a)edenyard.co.uk> writes: [...] > So then I do the "mount /dev/sda /mnt/camera" bit and I always get a > message that /dev/sda isn't a block device or sda doesn't exist. [...] Out of interest, why would a USB device appear as a SCSI one? -- MJR

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Linux and USB?
by Edenyard 12 Oct '01

12 Oct '01

Please could anyone shed some light on this for me. I borrowed a digital camera and wanted to download its shots into my Linux box (Redhat 7.1 2.4.2 kernel P166 64Mb RAM). I hunted around and managed to find a place on the linux-usb.org site where several people had managed this feat with the same camera that I'm using (and using all sorts of kernel versions such as 2.0.x, 2.2.x, 2.4.x), which is a Fuji finepix 1400 Zoom with 8Mb memory card. However, I simply cannot get it to work for me. I modprobe the usb-storage, usb-core and usb-uhci modules, as per instructions and they all appear to load, according to lsmod. SCSI support is already loaded. When I then plug the camera in and switch it on, there's disk activity and files appear in /proc/scsi. So then I do the "mount /dev/sda /mnt/camera" bit and I always get a message that /dev/sda isn't a block device or sda doesn't exist. I've tried variations, like "mount -t msdos ..." or "mount -t vfat ..." but it makes no difference. It seems that the USB link works but it all falls over when it comes time to access the mythical SCSI emulation or whatever it is to read the image files. Has anyone ever succeeded in this? I'd appreciate any guidance that's going - thanks! Gerald.

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Xine
by Edenyard 11 Oct '01

11 Oct '01

Ricardo asked: > My system boots straight into an X environment (KDE). How can I stop X and go to > the command line and > startx 2> xoutput > I don't know whether this is the 'official' way, but this is how I've always stopped Redhat going straight into X fom boot-up: find the file /etc/inittab and look for a line in it that says something like this: id:5:initdefault: Edit the file, change the 5 in that line into a 3 and save the changed file. Now when you boot up, it SHOULD go to the normal text login screen. Well - it does for me.... Someone else on this list will most likely have a better way of doing what you want. Hope that helps? Gerald (still very much a Linux beginer!)

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Re: clug Anglian Linux user group
by Mark Roberts 11 Oct '01

11 Oct '01

Hi, Red Lodge is quite a distance from Cambridge, especially with the strong culture of walking/cycling in this city, which is the main reason that we currently meet in such a central location. I enjoy a trip out though. I will be happy to drive over, so if anyone else wants to come you are welcome to a lift - I can take up to four other people. The proposed time and day is the same time we usually meet, so perhaps those going could meet at CB2 and go on from there? Sorry, I just saw Convoy on TV the other week ;-) The first message that made it to our list suggested that ALUG were thinking of having a meeting in Cambridge at some point. I was just wondering, if ALUG has members in Cambridge that want to meet, why don't they come along to Cambridge LUG meetings? Just curious. Oh, and is it really going to be in the truck stop? Linux chat and an all day breakfast, cool. Don't know what the truckers will think mind you :-) Best regards, Mark. On Tuesday 09 Oct 2001 11:03 pm, Adam Bower wrote: > hi people, > > You should have all got a cross-posted message a few days back from the > Alug list that probably didn't make itself 100% clear as to what was > going on. Now we havn't got a firm date for our next meet but you guys > may want to check out the alug website at http://www.alug.org.uk/ as there > is loads of crossover between our groups and we are always looking for new > members and input. > > Anyhow we are looking to get a meeting at Red Lodge near Thetford very > soon and you will all be very welcome and we would perhaps try to sort out > some other linkups between the groups soon. > > Anyhow any thoughts you have would be very welcome. > > Life, Love, Linux... > > Adam

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Re: [Alug] Re: clug Anglian Linux user group
by MJ Ray 11 Oct '01

11 Oct '01

Mark Roberts <mark(a)taurine.demon.co.uk> writes: > The first message that made it to our list suggested that ALUG were thinking > of having a meeting in Cambridge at some point. I was just wondering, if ALUG > has members in Cambridge that want to meet, why don't they come along to > Cambridge LUG meetings? Just curious. I'm not sure we'd want to hold a meeting in Cambridge, as I don't think we'd want to tread on Cam-LUG's toes, but if we could guest at a Cam-LUG meet, that would be great. I'm not sure what your venue is like, though? Would it cope with people bringing kit? Or even just laptops/ palmtops? -- MJR Do you need advice about the Internet or particular net services? Why not talk to my employers? See http://www.luminas.co.uk/ for details.

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Re: [Alug] Re: clug Anglian Linux user group
by MJ Ray 11 Oct '01

11 Oct '01

Adam Bower <abower(a)thebowery.co.uk> writes: > One other thing which I don't know why is that not many people on the > alug list knew that the camlug even existed but I think quite a few have > now signed up to the camlug mailing list. I knew camlug existed, but at the time ALUG formed, it appeared to be mostly idling and didn't answer emails. I think we had a couple of visitors who were also camluggers at the early meetings in Woodbridge. Initially ALUG seemed to spend much time over the very east of our region, so I guess we weren't that attractive to the Cambridge area and camlug returned to ignoring us? Personally, I'm not really significantly nearer Cambridge than other ALUG venues, and each camlug meeting appears to be less of an event (with fun kit!) than an ALUG meeting (but maybe this is wrong), so I'm not terribly inclined to make the tedious trek to Cambridge and couldn't get there every week anyway. -- MJR Do you need advice about the Internet or particular net services? Why not talk to my employers? See http://www.luminas.co.uk/ for details.

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October meeting...
by Simon Parkes 10 Oct '01

10 Oct '01

So guys, do you want me to go ahead and get the place booked at Red Lodge for October 28th ??? Things sort of petered off on this, but if I'm to get something organised I need to know, what's the general consensus.. Simon

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Re: [Alug] Xine
by Ricardo Campos 10 Oct '01

10 Oct '01

When I run Xine in a terminal I get this: xine open dvd://VIDEO_TS.VOB, start pos = 0 input_dvd: seek VIDEO_TS.VOB to block 0x240: 0x120000 select audio channel : 0 ac3_reset input_dvd: read error: Input/output error demux_mpeg_block: checking if we can branch to dvd://VTS_01_0.VOB input_dvd: is_branch_possible to dvd://VTS_01_0.VOB ? video stream end audio stream end xine_notify_stream_finished Which means I'm still stumped! It doesn't even try to access the DVD drive (i.e. no flashy lights or disc-spinning).Perhaps I need to install another driver? :( Ricardo -- Love Ricardo, "Surely this monstrous hybrid comes not from a mother's womb but from an Ephialtes, an Incubus, or some other horrendous demon, as though spawned in a putrid and venemous fungus, son of Fauns and Nymphs, more Devil than man." -Athanasius Kircher, Mundus Subtarraneus, Amsterdam, 1665, pp.279-280 http://www.rscampos.net Get your @hellokitty.com FREE e-mail account at http://www.sanriotown.com Sanrio Town - Your Ultimate Community to meet Sanrio character & friends. Powered by Outblaze

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Whose is this? [spam_filter@linuxfreemail.com] Re: [Alug] Xine
by MJ Ray 10 Oct '01

10 Oct '01

Hi, Someone's email provider doesn't like Ricardo's new mail provider. While I think that someone really should fix the line wrap on the webmail he's using, I'm not bouncing every email from him like the following one. I've sent a few copies as requested, but unless anyone can tell me how to fix this, I'm going to seek and destroy whatever subscription is causing this. So, any ideas why I'm getting this all of a sudden? TIA... Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 00:54:42 -0700 Message-Id: <200110100754.f9A7sga10105(a)superglide.netfx-2000.net> To: main-admin(a)lists.alug.org.uk Subject: Re: [Alug] Xine In-Reply-To: <20011010195012.24269.qmail(a)hellokitty.com> From: spam_filter(a)linuxfreemail.com [...] *** Your message did not reach its recipient *** It was caught by the mailing system as spam. If this message is not spam and you feel that this message was caught in error, please email a note to spam_filter(a)netfx-2000.net. If this message is spam, knock it off! This server is in California where it is illegal to spam! We do not accept spam here! We will go after all spammers to the maximum extent of the law! -- MJR, off to add a paragraph about repeated filter complaints to the welcome. Do you need advice about the Internet or particular net services? Why not talk to my employers? See http://www.luminas.co.uk/ for details.

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