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Re: [Alug] new graphics card
by MJ Ray 08 Oct '01

08 Oct '01

Jenny_Hopkins(a)toby-churchill.com writes: > >If you are prepared to face the possibility that X may refuser to > >work and that you'd have to come back for more help, I would install > >this new package (xserver-s3) and say yes when it asks you if you > >want to make it the default. > I'd be surprised if the outcome was any different... Why? You have an s3, install an s3 xserver package. apt-get install xserver-s3 That will hopefully do the trick... if not, I'll try to be on IRC this evening to figure out more. -- MJR Do you need advice about the Internet or particular net services? Why not talk to my employers? See http://www.luminas.co.uk/ for details.

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Re: [Alug] Replys (video digitising)
by MJ Ray 08 Oct '01

08 Oct '01

"Lincoln, Michael C" <mclinc(a)essex.ac.uk> writes: > What the alug list needs is a replyto: in the header... No, it does not. We've been here before. A quick refresher: 1/ If alug doesn't set a reply-to, people just need to remember to use "reply to all" when they want to reply to all. This seems a reasonable requirement to me. 2/ If alug sets a reply-to, people pressing "reply to author" actually "reply to all", which is clearly broken. 3/ If alug sets a reply-to, the original value of the reply-to header is lost for all time, which may be bad. 4/ Some people (including me) like to get a copy of replies to my message faster than the list server passes them on. If you don't it's fairly easy to filter off things which have a list in the cc. 5/ There's also the wooly point that many of us are using Linux because we like something which follows reasonable standards and don't want to see it become another gaggle of conflicting closed shops. Therefore, alug will not break standards and screw the headers. PS - main(a)lists.alug.org.uk is where this list now lives. alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk will "go away" soon. Please update yourself. -- MJR Do you need advice about the Internet or particular net services? Why not talk to my employers? See http://www.luminas.co.uk/ for details.

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Test- is this in HTML?
by Ricardo Campos 08 Oct '01

08 Oct '01

If this damned account only sends in HTML, I'll be quite annoyed. Does anyone on this list have a non-HTML supporting e-mail client? I spose there would have been the same problem with my hotmail acct.... Ricardo <<-- formerly of corez23(a)hotmail.com Now using another multinational corporate mail system. But this one's cuter. :P -->> -- Love Ricardo, "Surely this monstrous hybrid comes not from a mother's womb but from an Ephialtes, an Incubus, or some other horrendous demon, as though spawned in a putrid and venemous fungus, son of Fauns and Nymphs, more Devil than man." -Athanasius Kircher, Mundus Subtarraneus, Amsterdam, 1665, pp.279-280 http://www.rscampos.net Get your @hellokitty.com FREE e-mail account at http://www.sanriotown.com Sanrio Town - Your Ultimate Community to meet Sanrio character & friends. Powered by Outblaze

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video digitising
by Syd Hancock 08 Oct '01

08 Oct '01

Does anyone here have any experience of digitising analogue video in linux? I am looking for advice on what capture card (mid-range e.g. Pinnacle DC10plus) to use and possibly a tv tuner card. In particular, if anyone does use a DC10plus I'd be very interested to make contact as I'd like to see one in use if possible. Also can anyone comment on the current state of play with ATI graphic cards and linux? Some of their cards seem to do all that I want but... Thanks Syd

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re:Libraries
by Ricardo Campos 08 Oct '01

08 Oct '01

Hey, I can answer my own question. Luckily the boss isn't in! Surfing for me! ;) ... This has to be done by root, and is only necessary for MDK 8.x >ld --whole-archive -shared-o /usr/X11R6/lib/libXv.so.1 >/usr/X11R6/lib/libXv.a >rpm -Uvh xine-lib-xv-*.rpm --nodeps >ldconfig Other Redhatters merely have to: >rpm -Uvh *.rpm >ldconfig there seems to be about 5 million libraries and extra packages you need to d/l. Well, actually 4.9 million. Darn this CSS business. (Not that I would use the De-CSS plugin, of course. ;) Ricardo _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Libraries.
by Ricardo Campos 08 Oct '01

08 Oct '01

a question about those ever-present (or not as the case is) libraries. I'm trying to get xine up and running. First I did it via the RPM for my distro. It said it needed "LibXv.so.1", but I forced the install. Obviously it said "I need LibXv.so.1" when I tried to run it. So then I uninstalled it, and compiled the Xine src file, the Xine GUI, and the Xine libs. Same problem. In /X11R6/libs there is a file called LibXv.a, opening it in Konqueror invokes the archiver program, and contained within is LibXv.o . Now is this a precursor to LibXv.so.1 ? If so, how can I alter it? Obviously the Xine libs doesn't contain all the libs I need- I suppose that it is an Xfree86 server library. I'm using a fairly current version of X, although not the newest available on my MDK system (the newer version, for some reason, wouldn't allow my computer to boot properly) so it should be more-or-less up to date. I have the most up-to-date stable source for Xfree86, but I'm really not sure whether I should try installing that, incase it hangs on bootup again. Ricardo _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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WWW Patents & Royalties
by John Seago 08 Oct '01

08 Oct '01

The deadline for public comments on the above matter hasbeen extended to the 11th of October. All those wo havenowish to contribute to Bill Gates personal fortune, should at least see to it that their opinions are aired. See: http://www.eff.org/alerts/20011004_eff_w3c_patent_alert.html and nodoubt other comments on the matter in the Register and other fora. John seago

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 08 Oct '01

08 Oct '01

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.openprojects.net in the #alug channel, you can take a look at www.openprojects.net to get more info on the openprojects network. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server uk.openprojects.net" or "/server eu.openprojects.net" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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Re: [Alug] Test - please ignore
by MJ Ray 08 Oct '01

08 Oct '01

Ashley <ash(a)blueskyresearch.net> writes: > Just testing to make sure headers are set to come through to list ok Please use the social list if you want to play. Technical test messages to the main list may result in one of the following undesirable results: - being held for approval in future - being booted - a free subscription to the clueless list - me making sarky comments to the list - nothing ...depending on the moods of the list admins ;-) -- MJR Do you need advice about the Internet or particular net services? Why not talk to my employers? See http://www.luminas.co.uk/ for details.

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insmod
by oms101＠freeuk.com 06 Oct '01

06 Oct '01

Dear All I finally took the plunge to install debian because my CDwriter has been playing up (its barely working) anyway, I got debian installed and it seems quite nice but a little under setup but that may be a strength. The 2.2.17 kernel I felt could do with an update, so I compiled the 2.4.8 kernel using the SuSe configuration for their 2.2 kernel in their 7.0 distibution. With this setup I performed my first successful kernel compile, ( I have tried 5 times before but it just takes to long with a P200MMX computer ) I then realised that I had to compile the modules and install them (with make) which meant that it must have taken at least 6 hours. Anyway after all this effort I now have a dewbian system with a 2.4.8 kernal that boots but still cant find the modules, I rearly need TCP/IP so I can continue to setup the system unfortunately this is a module. Anyone with some debian experiance please help Owen. PS insmod /usr/lib/modules/../../sg.o insmod /usr/lib/modules/../../ide-scsi.o does apear to load the scsi system and not work properly so I guess the modules do exist OK Date: 06-Oct-01 Time: 15:19:41

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Re: [Alug] Jinxed!
by Ricardo Campos 06 Oct '01

06 Oct '01

>$HOME/.xmms/config $HOME meaning my (as in the user's) home directory? i.e. /home/ricardo/ or just /home/ ? Cos it's definitely not in /home/ricardo/ , that's the first place I looked. > > Brownie points lost by Linux = 20 > >Sure, let's see you hack the registry keys it stored its settings in >as easily ;-) No need to. uninstall usually removes settings, reinstall adds defaults. The only reg hacking I've had to do is on servers, but you expect to fiddle on a server. I'm just getting grumpy because things either a) never work or b) work for a short period, then fall over. It IS frustrating when you know that you *COULD* boot into M$W2K and do everything I use my home computer for, crash-free. (Believe it or not, I have only experienced 1 or 2 crashes- and that was when I was running a default installation of IIS, unpatched... and u can guess what happened!) Then it was off to d/l the patch and get the Service Pack from Technet, and all is hunky dory. But I'm determined........ And I've always wanted a Penguin. ;) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Test - please ignore
by Ashley 06 Oct '01

06 Oct '01

Just testing to make sure headers are set to come through to list ok -- Ashley T. Howes PhD www.ashleyhowes.com "When all the animals of this world are gone, man will die of loneliness"

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new graphics card
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 06 Oct '01

06 Oct '01

I've just replaced a faulty graphics card in the dualboot machine at home, and was wondering how to let the linux part know it has an S3 Trio64V rather than a Whatever-it-was? I ran XF86Config from a command line, but got all the header and footers for each section in XF86Config come up with "command not found". A search on google showed the driver "accel" can be used with this card....I'm not sure how to activate this driver, or if I can just edit XF86Config by hand. Or how to find if debian has the driver "accel". Or anything much really. Ta, Jenny.

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Parking in Cambridge
by John Seago 06 Oct '01

06 Oct '01

I'm told that using the Park-and-ride is the best way to deal with parking in Cambridge, there's a Park-and -ride just by the Airport. That's assuming that mostofthe membership will be coming from the East, but it does'nt solvethe problems of those who want to bring their machines with them. Having looked at the Cambridge LUG site it might be possible that they could make their cellar availble. John seago

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Re: [Alug] Re: Future meetings
by MJ Ray 06 Oct '01

06 Oct '01

Ducttape <dif2(a)ukc.ac.uk> writes: > I have finally got my mail working so its time for me to rejoin alug. > > A group here at kent uni are looking to create a LUG, we could try and > sync the meetings at the UEA and see if we can get a video link working > (Janet connection at each end, hurrah)? what do people think? I think UEA may have just lost their normal venue, as there seem to be ballroom dancers in there on Sundays now. > Thanks > > D - Will be at the next meeting to collect a fridge^hvax -- MJR Do you need advice about the Internet or particular net services? Why not talk to my employers? See http://www.luminas.co.uk/ for details.

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Re: [Alug] `Microsoft' � advertising on ALUG main
by MJ Ray 06 Oct '01

06 Oct '01

John Seago <john.seago(a)nutshell.net> writes: > This is just a suggestion, offering a guide to alternative free Email > not an ivitation for rebarbative remarks. (I have no wish to offend, I've even less wish to offend. There's a whole category in the Open Directory (http://www.dmoz.org/ and mirrors), many of which are more reliable and less bundled. -- MJR Do you need advice about the Internet or particular net services? Why not talk to my employers? See http://www.luminas.co.uk/ for details.

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Re: [Alug] Jinxed!
by MJ Ray 06 Oct '01

06 Oct '01

"Ricardo Campos" <corez23(a)hotmail.com> writes: > $HOME meaning my (as in the user's) home directory? i.e. /home/ricardo/ > or just /home/ ? /home/ricardo/ or similar. > Cos it's definitely not in /home/ricardo/ , that's the first place I looked. How did you look? XMMS stores its settings in $HOME/.xmms usually. To do otherwise is to be using a hacked-up source, I think. -- MJR Do you need advice about the Internet or particular net services? Why not talk to my employers? See http://www.luminas.co.uk/ for details.

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Trick of the day.
by MJ Ray 06 Oct '01

06 Oct '01

Want a Palm or Psion copy of a document? Load it into abiword and save it out as one, then! Yes, I know it's been there a while, but I only just found it ;-) -- MJR Do you need advice about the Internet or particular net services? Why not talk to my employers? See http://www.luminas.co.uk/ for details.

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`Microsoft' ® advertising on ALUG main
by John Seago 06 Oct '01

06 Oct '01

If you go to :- http://www.microsuxx.com/ you can get Email that does'nt print adverts for `Microsoft' ® products on the ALUG main, (or any of the other lists). This is just a suggestion, offering a guide to alternative free Email not an ivitation for rebarbative remarks. (I have no wish to offend, having begun my postings to this list via `Outlook' ®). John Seago

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Re: [Alug] Parking in Cambridge
by John Seago 05 Oct '01

05 Oct '01

Reply to: john.seago(a)nutshell.net On Friday 05 October 2001 4:37 am, you wrote: > John Seago <john.seago(a)nutshell.net> writes: > > [...] Having looked at the Cambridge LUG site it might be possible > > that they could make their cellar availble. > > How many cars can they fit in their cellar? Sorry poor grammar and phrasing. See the Cambridge LUG site for details on `their' cellar and the activities carried out therein. John Seago

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Re: [Alug] Jinxed!
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 05 Oct '01

05 Oct '01

Ricardo Campos wrote: >It IS frustrating when you know that you *COULD* boot into M$W2K and do >everything I use my home computer for, But where's the fun in that? ;-) Jen.

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RE: [Alug] Parking in Cambridge
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 05 Oct '01

05 Oct '01

Simon Parkes wrote> >I can organise the meeting in Red Lodge for the 28th Oct if wanted... Suits me, sir. It's the end of half-term week, don't know if that affects anyone...? Jenny.

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Re: [Alug] Jinxed!
by MJ Ray 05 Oct '01

05 Oct '01

"Ricardo Campos" <corez23(a)hotmail.com> writes: > any conf files, so I assume that it is stored in a conf file for my log in. > Where is this? $HOME/.xmms/config > Brownie points lost by Linux = 20 Sure, let's see you hack the registry keys it stored its settings in as easily ;-) -- MJR Do you need advice about the Internet or particular net services? Why not talk to my employers? See http://www.luminas.co.uk/ for details.

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Re: [Alug] Parking in Cambridge
by MJ Ray 05 Oct '01

05 Oct '01

John Seago <john.seago(a)nutshell.net> writes: > [...] Having looked at the Cambridge LUG site it might be possible that > they could make their cellar availble. How many cars can they fit in their cellar? -- MJR Do you need advice about the Internet or particular net services? Why not talk to my employers? See http://www.luminas.co.uk/ for details.

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Jinxed!
by Ricardo Campos 05 Oct '01

05 Oct '01

As soon as I get going, something goes wrong again.... I was using XMMS, and decided to play one of the plug-ins, 'blur'. It was quite cool. I turned XMMS off, came to my computer the next day and hey presto! Opening an MP3 or OGG file, or just clicking on the XMMS applet brings up the plug in window that either a) hangs ad infinitum ad nauseum -until I Xkill it b) comes up then the window disappears. This occurs in Gnome AND KDE. I'm using MDK8.0 I'm pretty sure it must be the plug in, as it was the only thing that changed. I've looked in /usr/shar/apps/xmms but it doesn't appear to have any conf files, so I assume that it is stored in a conf file for my log in. Where is this? Brownie points lost by Linux = 20 Ricardo, "Surely this monstrous hybrid comes not from a mother's womb but from an Ephialtes, an Incubus, or some other horrendous demon, as though spawned in a putrid and venemous fungus, son of Fauns and Nymphs, more Devil than man." -Athanasius Kircher, Mundus Subtarraneus, Amsterdam, 1665, pp.279-280 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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