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Re: [Alug] Bascule
by MJ Ray 12 Jul '01

12 Jul '01

David Freeman <david_freeman(a)rocketmail.com> writes: > You'll Find most of the nicks I use come from books or literature, There's no originality in nicknames these days.

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next meet meat
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 12 Jul '01

12 Jul '01

David Freeman aka Bascule wrote: >Ergates, >The BBQ means I am trying to get food at the next meet! but I need >cooperation from everyone to make it work. If you commit a date for the meeting and i hardcode it into my virgo diary showing that i can make it, i will commit myself to a variable quantity of pasta salad and Linda Mccartney sausages. Jen. PS list> My problem with apache not reading the css file was because i neglected to use the -R option when i chmodded the directory.

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Next Meet Is BOOKED
by David Freeman 12 Jul '01

12 Jul '01

All, I have booked Martlesham heath scout hut for the 12th august 2001. So the next meet will be sunday 12th August. I will be inviting some members of GLLUG and LONIX. The cost of the hall is �10 and I was going to cover this by raffling off a book and possibly a T-shirt. So Usual system now applies, let me know what you will be bringing in the way of hardware and that you will being coming. ALso Don't forget the LUG BBQ afterwoods. Thanks D ===== -------------------- "We all know Linux is great... it does infinite loops in 5 seconds." Linus Torvalds __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

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Bascule
by Earl Brannigan 12 Jul '01

12 Jul '01

Hi David, David Freeman wrote : > /me runs and hides :o) > > Bascule > just had to ask - "Bascule" is that a "feersum endjinn ?" Cheers Earl

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Re: [Alug] Sending information between databases
by MJ Ray 12 Jul '01

12 Jul '01

oms101(a)freeuk.com writes: > I thought the most common way to do this was to run the transaction > log through the data base you want to replicate to. Sorry all for being off-message here. I thought the OP said that it wasn't just a straight replication problem.

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BEER!!!!!!
by David Freeman 11 Jul '01

11 Jul '01

List, Is anyone on the list planning on going to the linux beer hike in belguim at the end of august? Seriously contemplating it. Thanks D ===== -------------------- "We all know Linux is great... it does infinite loops in 5 seconds." Linus Torvalds __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

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Re: alug digest, Vol 1 #297 - 7 msgs
by terryfilby 11 Jul '01

11 Jul '01

> From: John Woodard <mail(a)johnwoodard.co.uk> > To: David_freeman(a)rocketmail.com, > David Freeman <david_freeman(a)rocketmail.com>, > alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > Subject: Re: [Alug] Dates > Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 19:24:01 -0400 > > On Monday 09 July 2001 08:05, David Freeman wrote: > > Jo, Jen, Mark, BJ, Earl, Neill, adam, fozzy > > > > what sundays in august can all 8 of you make? > > I can't make the 12th > > > We could combine this as a bit of a birthday bash for LUGITES[1], adam > > - 15th, me 31st, Jo - 1/9, jen 17 or 18 /9, et al.. > > Also me on the August 19th! Wow is this the August LUG?? Weird. > > Cheers, > BJ > And me on August 14th, but, unfortunately I won't be able to make it in August, because I will (hopefully) have an operation sometime in August to correct the cataract in my left eye, the right has already been done! Terry

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web page
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 11 Jul '01

11 Jul '01

David Freeman wrote: >Whilst on the subject of books, I was thinking of taking Jens page on >Lniux books and building it into a larger page with details of the ALUG >discounts and also the recommended reading list. My page is a bit crap really. Oh well. I've got more stuff to add to it, so I'll write it out in html format and you can just paste it in the appropriate place, then, yes? Sorry i haven't finished the network card link yet. I've forgotten what i did now, to be honest. Re. this BBQ.....are you saying the meeting on aug Whatever is going to have food at it, or is this something else? FOOD! Ergates.

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Re: [Alug] Sending information between databases
by Andrew.Chandler＠ft.com 11 Jul '01

11 Jul '01

I would most definitely argree on that one... ...I've seen too many bodges and work arounds in my time. Let the db engine deal with the replication and leave the app to do their stuff. Ther is a question of wether the replication should be asynchronous or synchronous with db updates... the former means the apps will continue without waiting for the replication but would mean the two databases are out of sync for a period of time. I've seen situation were (near) real-time data is being pushed into a db only with the replicated copy ages behind. Just pray you don't query a db with old data in!!! Andi Andrew Savory <a.savory(a)btinternet.com> on 11/07/2001 10:15:29 To: ashley(a)turton.com cc: Andrew Chandler/PSD/LONDON/FTI@FTI, alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Subject: Re: [Alug] Sending information between databases On Wed, 11 Jul, 2001 at 9:50 +0100, Ashley T. Howes Ph.D. wrote: > It's a general question more than anything. Assume the database does not > support native replication. Hrm. All I can say is, perhaps it's time to consider a database that DOES support native replication? Doing it yourself is going to be at best tricky, at worst prone to errors and omissions. When you're talking about customers valuable data, this is a BAD thing. There's plenty of free databases out there that support it, so there's little cost argument against (aside from time to implement). Heck, even MySQL supports replication now, and you should all know my thoughts on *that* particular RDBMS-wannabe by now.... ;-) Andrew. -- All views are my own, who else would want them? _______________________________________________ alug, the Anglian Linux User Group list Send list replies to alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk http://www.anglian.lug.org.uk/ http://rabbit.stu.uea.ac.uk/cgi-bin/listinfo/alug See the website for instructions on digest or unsub! ********************************************************************* * Please visit the web site of the Financial Times at: * * http://www.ft.com * * * * For UK personal finance, please visit http://www.ftyourmoney.com * * * * This E-Mail is intended for the use of the addressee only and may * * contain confidential information. If you are not the intended * * recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination * * of this communication is strictly prohibited. * * If you receive this transmission in error, please notify us * * immediately then delete this E-Mail. * * * * * postmaster(a)ft.com * *********************************************************************

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Re: [Alug] Sending information between databases
by Andrew.Chandler＠ft.com 11 Jul '01

11 Jul '01

Some of the db replication doesn't work to well anyhow AFAIK... ...I know we had to implement some in-house code to replicate some tables manually. Unfortunately, I wasn't on that bit of the project, but I guess it must be possible. Another project actually updated two databases in parallel rather than using some sort of replication software. just my 2 pence... Andi "Ashley T. Howes Ph.D." <ashley(a)turton.com> on 11/07/2001 09:50:20 To: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk cc: Andrew Chandler/PSD/LONDON/FTI@FTI Subject: Re: [Alug] Sending information between databases on 11/7/01 9:22 am, Andrew Chandler at Andrew.Chandler(a)ft.com wrote: > Ashley, what database engine would you be running? It's a general question more than anything. Assume the database does not support native replication. Ashley _______________________________________________ alug, the Anglian Linux User Group list Send list replies to alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk http://www.anglian.lug.org.uk/ http://rabbit.stu.uea.ac.uk/cgi-bin/listinfo/alug See the website for instructions on digest or unsub! ********************************************************************* * Please visit the web site of the Financial Times at: * * http://www.ft.com * * * * For UK personal finance, please visit http://www.ftyourmoney.com * * * * This E-Mail is intended for the use of the addressee only and may * * contain confidential information. If you are not the intended * * recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination * * of this communication is strictly prohibited. * * If you receive this transmission in error, please notify us * * immediately then delete this E-Mail. * * * * * postmaster(a)ft.com * *********************************************************************

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Re: [Alug] Sending information between databases
by Andrew.Chandler＠ft.com 11 Jul '01

11 Jul '01

Ashley, what database engine would you be running? I'm guessing it'll be something Opensource, but we did have a project here a couple of years back that replicated three Oracle databases between three different sites round the World.... AFAIK it worked okay, but the bandwidth becomes an issue if there's a lot of traffic and a high frequency of updates. Andi "Ashley T. Howes" <ashley(a)blueskyresearch.net> on 10/07/2001 19:12:31 To: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk cc: (bcc: Andrew Chandler/PSD/LONDON/FTI) Subject: [Alug] Sending information between databases (This isn't a pure linux question, but I hope you can help) What is a good system for sending information between databases, with minimal human interaction? Situation is that someone has a database in one location, another person has another copy. The list of tables/fields between the 2 databases is not exactly the same, but have several tables in common. The two databases could be synched with a lot of human work, but is there a method to do this automatically - perhaps sending XML between the two? Anyone got experience in doing this sort of stuff? Ashley _______________________________________________ alug, the Anglian Linux User Group list Send list replies to alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk http://www.anglian.lug.org.uk/ http://rabbit.stu.uea.ac.uk/cgi-bin/listinfo/alug See the website for instructions on digest or unsub! ********************************************************************* * Please visit the web site of the Financial Times at: * * http://www.ft.com * * * * For UK personal finance, please visit http://www.ftyourmoney.com * * * * This E-Mail is intended for the use of the addressee only and may * * contain confidential information. If you are not the intended * * recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination * * of this communication is strictly prohibited. * * If you receive this transmission in error, please notify us * * immediately then delete this E-Mail. * * * * * postmaster(a)ft.com * *********************************************************************

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weekly IRC reminder
by Adam Bower 10 Jul '01

10 Jul '01

Hi all, Could someone please now take over responsibility for the weekly IRC reminder as today was the last day that I could say for certain it would get sent. I did toy with the idea of leaving it running but didn't want to upset mjr when it went wrong :) and it may of died without warning when somebody finally noticed a cron job running from someone who left several months ago and had r00t on all of the boxen. Anyway the reason that I can no longer do the weekly reminder mail is that I resigned from my position with Zeus on Friday afternoon, and will not be returning to them in the future as was originally planned. Also if anyone knows of any short term contracts going in the East Anglia region (especially Norfolk) starting some time in August doing Unix/Linux type things then please drop me a line. I was originally planning to leave for an extended holiday in Australia about now but think I would rather be in a better financial position first. Of course I am now looking at a very relaxing July while I decide my next move though. Hopefully this means I will get to (finally) finish the FAQ now I am a man of leisure! Thanks Adam -- This message is Copyleft - all rights reversed Adam

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apache question
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 10 Jul '01

10 Jul '01

Hi all, I've got apache root set as /home/jenny/cwp and in there have an index.html file and a stylesheet.css file and a jpeg file. The index.html file has a link to the css file for formatting, and also contains the jpeg. When I view the file through my samba share, it opens up using the correct formatting and with the jpeg displayed. I've created a shortcut on the windows desktop, target "C: \WINDOWS\EXPLORER.EXE http://trx850/" This opens up the index page in cwp ok, but index.html hasn't been formatted as per the stylesheet and the jpeg image isn't showing. I've done a chmod but no luck. Should there be an application for css files in mime types? jpeg is in there. Thanks, jenny-ergates.

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Re: [Alug] ALUG Meet
by MJ Ray 10 Jul '01

10 Jul '01

John Seago <john.seago(a)btinternet.com> writes: > The only weekends when I have prior appointments are 11th, 12th and 13th of > August. King's Lynn festivals run until the 4th August, I think. -- MJR

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Suse 7.1 Professional(Update edition) Free
by Andrew Cartwright 10 Jul '01

10 Jul '01

Title says it all really, I am in Felixstowe and have the edition surplus to requirements. if anyone wants it let me know. Andy Cartwright

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ALUG Meet
by John Seago 09 Jul '01

09 Jul '01

The only weekends when I have prior appointments are 11th, 12th and 13th of August. John Seago

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3 Button mouse
by John Seago 09 Jul '01

09 Jul '01

I have installed Red hat 7.1, when I made the install I had, (and still have a two button mouse), which the install regarded as emulating a three button mouse. If I buy a three button mouse and plug it in will the system recognise as a three button mouse or have I got to do something arcane to get it to work? My two button mouse make s three commands, (left=L right =R L&R =M), L-1 LL-2 R-3 How many does a three button make? It appears to me that it should makethe following: L-1 LL-2 M-3 R-4 (this much would appear to follow the two button, but does the following apply?) L+M-5 R+M-6 R+L-7 L+M+R-8 and probably other combinations which you can work out for yourself. There used to be in the 1970's, in the magazines which came with the Observer and the Sunday Times, adverts for electric speedwriters which, by using five buttons, one for each digit , used in combinations which it was stated were easy to learn, enabled one to type at hitherto unobtainable speeds. couldthe same principal be applied to the commands that could be made with a three button Mouse?

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Dates
by David Freeman 09 Jul '01

09 Jul '01

Jo, Jen, Mark, BJ, Earl, Neill, adam, fozzy what sundays in august can all 8 of you make? I am trying to get martlesham scout hut for a sunday in august. once we conclude the meet there is a nice big green with a pub so I was going to suggest we get a couple of disposable BBQ's and have a nice social. We could even move the meet to say 1-5 so we get some more time. Also the scout hut will cost to hire, so as well as a small contribution from people coming I will raffle off a T-shirt and book from O'reilly. Also I was thinkning of inviting Lonix as our guests? We could combine this as a bit of a birthday bash for LUGITES[1], adam - 15th, me 31st, Jo - 1/9, jen 17 or 18 /9, et al.. Thanks D [1] Fantastic term Earl. ===== -------------------- "We all know Linux is great... it does infinite loops in 5 seconds." Linus Torvalds __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

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latest IRC list
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 09 Jul '01

09 Jul '01

> David Freeman - Akula > Neill Newman - Scoobz > Jenny Hopkins - jenbass > Laurie Brown - brownowl > William Hill - Rufty > Andrew Savory - savs or ajs > Bamir Hasani - CEPi > Paul Tansom - WhaleTales > Chris Glover - Taral > Adam Bower - abower or quinophex > Jo Mitchell - futurshox > Pete Turner - piemaster > Mark J Ray - slef or slav or slaf > Jonathan Pulfer - miniman > Steve Fosdick - fozzy_ > Rob - daetelis > Ben - PleXeR or DOA > Danny - Dingo > Brett Parker - (iDunno|Neo|somethin|somethinweird)

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Re: [Alug] Weekly IRC meeting reminder
by MJ Ray 09 Jul '01

09 Jul '01

Adam Bower <abower(a)zeus.com> writes: > The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.openprojects.net in the > #alug channel, you can take a look at www.openprojects.net to get more > info on the openprojects network. Please note that pratchett.openprojects.net is not available for user connections any more. If you used that, use sterling, herbert, fontana, merrill, zsoldos... The main UK server, hogan, will return soon. But not yet. -- MJR

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FOOD
by David Freeman 09 Jul '01

09 Jul '01

list, For the afor mentioned BBQ idea to go ahead we need some participation from members, we need people to offer to do the cooking and also people to volunteer food and maybe disposable BBQ's. Both jobs are very simple and wont entail much effort, I think cooking can be a sort of collective thing but we will need someone to start off the food etc... Then we need the food, now if with some coordination a few people each bring small individual items we could get a nice collection toegether and share food as well as source[pun intended]. Anyway enough of my ramblings, CU on IRC Thanks D - Akula, FlameBait, Carpel. ===== -------------------- "We all know Linux is great... it does infinite loops in 5 seconds." Linus Torvalds __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

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Alug Book emporuim
by David Freeman 09 Jul '01

09 Jul '01

All, I have just spoken to pearson Education who are offering a discount on there books to ALUG members, we just have to put a link on the web page to there site which if we use gives us the discount. Pearson are offering Prentice hall books which are the publishers of books by Andrew Tanenbaum. Andrews books are some of the best technical ones out there, his book on OS's helped Linus no end when he was writting linux originally. Also his book "Computer Networks" 3rd edition is very good and recommended reading for all members. Whilst on the subject of books, I was thinking of taking Jens page on Lniux books and building it into a larger page with details of the ALUG discounts and also the recommended reading list. Thanks D ===== -------------------- "We all know Linux is great... it does infinite loops in 5 seconds." Linus Torvalds __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

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Suse contact
by David Freeman 09 Jul '01

09 Jul '01

Does anyone know of the LUG contact in SuSE? I remeber phoning someone before NLD but can't find the name or number. An email address would be useful. Thanks D ===== -------------------- "We all know Linux is great... it does infinite loops in 5 seconds." Linus Torvalds __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

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Re: [Alug] Weekly IRC meeting reminder
by MJ Ray 09 Jul '01

09 Jul '01

Neill Newman <neill(a)entora.co.uk> writes: > It probably would be a good idea to have everything in one place, [...] I've always tried to avoid having mailing lists and web site on the same machine. Martyn, how good are your backups? Neill, could you hold backups so we can panic-move if really needed? -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] amigo
by Andrew.Chandler＠ft.com 09 Jul '01

09 Jul '01

..what Neill doesn't know is the web cam I installed in his lounge, showing him lounging on the sofa with his feet up and drinking crates of Pepsi! And that's when he's working!!! He gets lazy when the Formula One is one!! /me hides behind a flame-proof Cisco router... A> Neill Newman <neill(a)entora.co.uk> on 09/07/2001 13:57:55 To: Andrew Chandler/PSD/LONDON/FTI@FTI cc: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Subject: Re: [Alug] amigo Andrew Chandler wrote: > > Well spotted that man!!! Yeah, it does appear to be a theme throughout > the "IT Industry" methinks. I don't think I've ever met any IT bods that have a > quite time at work... okay except Neill!!! *duck* When you are your own boss, you can work at your own pace, therefore I make time for the important things in life .. work and life are of equal importance to me ;).. so when Andi comes up to visit, it looks like I'm not doing much.. little does he know ;).. Sz -- Open Source Specialists http://www.entora.co.uk/ Tel: +44 (0)701 0723686 Fax: +44 (0)870 3214368 ********************************************************************* * Please visit the web site of the Financial Times at: * * http://www.ft.com * * * * For UK personal finance, please visit http://www.ftyourmoney.com * * * * This E-Mail is intended for the use of the addressee only and may * * contain confidential information. If you are not the intended * * recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination * * of this communication is strictly prohibited. * * If you receive this transmission in error, please notify us * * immediately then delete this E-Mail. * * * * * postmaster(a)ft.com * *********************************************************************

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