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IRC Stuff.
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 23 Apr '01

23 Apr '01

> David Freeman - Akula > Neill Newman - Scoobz > Jenny Hopkins - jenbass > Laurie Brown - brownowl > William Hill - Rufty > Andrew Savory - savs or ajs > Bamir Hasani - CEPi > Paul Tansom - WhaleTales > Chris Glover - Taral > Adam Bower - abower or quinophex > Jo Mitchell - futurshox

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[Fwd: Re: [Alug] IRC addresses ALUG]
by jo＠yee-ha.demon.co.uk 23 Apr '01

23 Apr '01

> > This is what we have so far. Any more to add? > > > > > David Freeman - Akula > > > Neill Newman - Scoobz > > > Jenny Hopkins - jenbass > > > Laurie Brown - brownowl > > > William Hill - Rufty > > > Andrew Savory - savs or ajs > > > Bamir Hasani - CEPi > > > Paul Tansom - WhaleTales > > > Chris Glover - Taral > > Adam Bower - abower or sometimes (though probably not alug) quinophex /me realises lack of actual contribution to this list Jo Mitchell - futurshox :)

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Re: [Fwd: [Alug] Weekly IRC meeting reminder]
by Chris Glover 23 Apr '01

23 Apr '01

Hi... Depending on how the traffic is tonioght... I'll be known as Taral :-) > Chris > _______________________________________________________________________ > > Chris Glover | Change Control Co-ordinator, Broadcast Systems Engineer, > Playout Areas > > BBC Technology | Room 3077 | BBC Television Centre | Wood Lane | W12 7RJ | > UK > > W: +44 (0)20 857 61629 F: +44 (0)20 857 60098 M: +44 (0)7977 > 420828 > > http://www.bbctechnology.com > This e-mail, and any attachment, is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify me immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC, unless specifically stated.

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Re: [Fwd: [Alug] Weekly IRC meeting reminder]
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 23 Apr '01

23 Apr '01

Hey, I've had a good idea - why don't we use our ORDINARY NAMES! and make life easy! Hee hee. We've got David Freeman - Akula Neill "Bored" Newman - Scoobz Jenny Hopkins - jenbass

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[Fwd: [Alug] Weekly IRC meeting reminder]
by jo＠yee-ha.demon.co.uk 23 Apr '01

23 Apr '01

Did anyone ever get anywhere with that list of (people==IRC nicks) that was being talked about a while ago? Just curious, as I still haven't worked out who everyone is! ;) Jo -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Alug] Weekly IRC meeting reminder Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 06:00:02 +0100 From: Adam Bower <abower(a)zeus.com> To: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk This is the automated ALUG irc meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an irc meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm.

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Weekly IRC meeting reminder
by Adam Bower 23 Apr '01

23 Apr '01

This is the automated ALUG irc meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an irc meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.openprojects.net in the #alug channel, you can take a look at www.openprojects.net to get more info on the openprojects network. Popular irc clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and ircII on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.bitchx.com http://www.xchat.org http://freshmeat.net Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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Re: [Alug] Network Woes! (Telehouse networking)
by MJ Ray 22 Apr '01

22 Apr '01

It definitely sounds like the switch isn't detecting new devices properly. There could be something else, but you don't really want to do forensics (replace bits until things work) on it at this location. -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] I have achieved the impossible.
by MJ Ray 22 Apr '01

22 Apr '01

David Freeman <david_freeman(a)rocketmail.com> writes: > PS I thought making a sun box running solaris was impossible to crash > but managed that one recently as well! No, that's actually very very easy if you know the right (wrong?) way to stroke it. It's also possible to leave it functioning but in various states of unrecoverable brokenness, thanks to the modular nature of most Unix systems. The admin tools and documentation seem rather primitive compared to Linux's, yet are incredibly over-engineered. Basically, it's bizarre. ;-) -- MJR

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Desperate Apache Problem!
by Mark Wilkinson 21 Apr '01

21 Apr '01

One of our RedHat servers decided it wasn't going to play ball this morning (worthy of another email on exactly this subject actually) but as an upshot of this, I've had to move several websites to another server that is being good. So... ftp'ed the websites to the other server and cut-n-pasted the apache config file etc. After fidding around a bit have managed to get everything up and running -except- for two virtual domains which aren't behaving themselves. As it happens, these two domains are on both 80 and 443 (SSL). When I access them, I get an HTTP 302 which I don't really understand. All the other domains are working fine. Have examined the logs and used telnet to connect to port 80 to see exactly what headers etc are coming back. Normally, a 302 should give a URL to redirect to, which in this case is "http://" without any other info. Weird. Any ideas/clues - am getting very frustrated now? Cheers. Mark W. PS. apache 1.3.14 w mod_ssl 2.5.1 and mod_php4.0.4pl1

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Re: [Alug] can anyone help with installing a driver?
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 21 Apr '01

21 Apr '01

>I always thought that the "modconf" program would do it all for you? >It was pretty straight forward when I installed the same network card. It seems to do much the same things as insmod, on looking at the man page. I don't think I've done a single thing that has been "straightforward" since i started doing linux.....makes me suspicious. Perhaps i should stick to being a musician.

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Network Woes!
by Mark Wilkinson 21 Apr '01

21 Apr '01

OK, Here's another one for you experts out there. We've got a 24 port hub/switch in telehouse which is connected to a router. We've got several machines connected up and they are running great. No problems. Excellent connectivity. One of our guys goes down to London yesterday and swops a network card in one of the boxes and installs a fresh new RedHat box in the cabinet for us to play with. Things start to go weird.. The box with the new network card in it and the totally new box can see all the other machines on the subnet and they can see each other. Fine up to now. So.. I try to telnet into these boxes from home (NTL dialup modem) and can't access them. I can access all the other machines on that subnet no problem but not those two machines. In addition, those two machines can't see the router that's attached to the hub. I'm running no clever firewalling or anything on any of those machines. My thoughts are that the switch is misbehaving and is about to smoke or that the router is selectively ignoring certain addresses... Any other thoughts on this? Cheers. Mark W.

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Re: [Alug] can anyone help with installing a driver?
by MJ Ray 20 Apr '01

20 Apr '01

Jenny_Hopkins(a)toby-churchill.com writes: > So does it make sense to create a directory called 3c509 and put the same > info in it and run update-modules? How does update-modules know that it now > edits in from the new 3c509 file rather than the ne file, if so? Personally, I'd make a file and check over the "aliases" file too for good measure. Grep for ne in there if you want to be really sure. > I'm in a "groan, this is all too hard" mood today. man update-modules seems to say as much as there is, but I can't believe that of Debian... it's probably in a manual somewhere too. -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] can anyone help with installing a driver?
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 20 Apr '01

20 Apr '01

>Personally, I'd make a file and check over the "aliases" file too for >good measure. Grep for ne in there if you want to be really sure. Yep, I made the 3c509 file, ran the update modules, and sure as eggs it has picked it up. However, somewhere the card is still bound to ne.....not in aliases, not in modules.conf.....so when I try to bring up eth0 it is telling me "ne.c: No NE*000 card found at i/o=0x2a0 eth0: unknown interface: No such device"........anyone have any idea? Thanks, Jenny.

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can anyone help with installing a driver?
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 20 Apr '01

20 Apr '01

Hi All, I've swapped my DLink net card for a 3com509B to see if I can get better results. I've got as far as loading the necessary 3c509 driver and associating it with eth0, rather than the previous ne driver. However, being unfamiliar with Debian I am not sure as to how to go about changing the modules.conf......in /etc/modutils I have a directory called ne, and in this I edited the address and alias eth0 lines to suit, then ran update-modules. So does it make sense to create a directory called 3c509 and put the same info in it and run update-modules? How does update-modules know that it now edits in from the new 3c509 file rather than the ne file, if so? I'm in a "groan, this is all too hard" mood today. Thanks, Jenny.

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Re : Weird FTP Problem
by Mark Wilkinson 20 Apr '01

20 Apr '01

Just did an "ifconfig -a" on this machine and got these results... lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Bcast:127.255.255.255 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:3924 Metric:1 RX packets:768631 errors:15310 dropped:0 overruns:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:768631 eth0 Link encap:10Mbps Ethernet HWaddr 00:01:02:57:DD:B5 inet addr:213.254.160.138 Bcast:213.254.160.191 Mask:255.255.255.192 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:2147483647 errors:17121303 dropped:0 overruns:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:191986865 Interrupt:12 Base address:0x6c00 eth0:1 Link encap:10Mbps Ethernet HWaddr 00:01:02:57:DD:B5 inet addr:213.254.160.140 Bcast:213.254.160.191 Mask:255.255.255.192 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 Interrupt:12 Base address:0x6c00 Who thinks this is a dodgy network card (see overruns on eth0)? Mark W. BTW : Looks like I was wrong about this machine having a 100meg card in it!

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Weird FTP Problem - any ideas guys??
by Mark Wilkinson 20 Apr '01

20 Apr '01

Well, here I am de-lurking at last! Have got a really infuriating problem with no clues on how to solve it. Have got two Redhat machines, one is 6.2, the other is 7.0. They are on the same network with a 100 meg hub between them. They both have 100meg network cards. I'm trying to ftp a 70meg file from the 6.2 box to the 7.0 box. I would expect the the transfer to take a matter of seconds but it takes an eternity and seems to get slower and slower as it progresses we're talking transfer rates of < 1K here. I'm totally stumped as to what is causing this and need some kind of tool to analyse the problem and work out what is going wrong here. Any ideas about this please? Cheers. Mark Wilkinson IT Manager Triad Internet Blue Triangle Hosting http://www.triad-internet.co.uk http://www.bluetriangle.net

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Re: [Alug] Unix File sharing
by David Freeman 19 Apr '01

19 Apr '01

--- Neill Newman <neill(a)entora.co.uk> wrote: > Adam Bower wrote: > > > > On Thu, 12 Apr 2001, David Freeman wrote: > > > > > Can any one make some recommendations as to the best and most > secure > > > method of sharing files under unix. Th machines are behind a > firewall, > > > but sat in the DMZ, so we want th minimium number of ports to be > left > > > open. > > > > Use NFS and make sure that you have it configured properly and > don't allow > > any NFS traffic through your routers. > > most secure method is definatly not NFS !! use samba instead... Is this being serious(thats not sarcasm, its a genuine question)? I thought that samba was a MS based protocol and as such was as secure as a wet paper bag? Is it really better than NFS? if it is I will remove the NFS from the plan as samba may be used for the nt support. Thanks D > Sz > > > > > Adam > > -- > > Adam Bower, <abower(a)zeus.com> Tel: +44 1223 525000 > > System Administrator Fax: +44 1223 525100 > > Zeus Technology Ltd http://www.zeus.com > > Zeus House, Cowley Road Cambridge CB4 0ZT England > > > > _______________________________________________ > > alug, the Anglian Linux User Group list > > Send list replies to alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > > http://rabbit.stu.uea.ac.uk/cgi-bin/listinfo/alug > > See the website for instructions on digest or unsub! > > -- > Open source solutions at http://www.entora.co.uk/ > ATTACHMENT part 2 application/x-pkcs7-signature name=smime.p7s __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

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Re: [Alug] Poster Worries From A Virgo
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 19 Apr '01

19 Apr '01

http://argosaa.tripod.com/alug/index.html Need to know if more info is necessary (if so WHAT?!!!) and if anyone can print them nice and cheaply, if so how many and who shall they be sent to for distribution.

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Poster Worries From A Virgo
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 19 Apr '01

19 Apr '01

>Like the poster Jen....!t Um, on following the URL for the poster I see the text hasn't been edited in the middle section yet, - think we need to put in the where's, when's and wherefore's before we print and distribute? A time would be pretty essential. David, did you get anyone to print any yet? I have a colour printer at home, but from experience of printing band posters it is a costly project. Lake District a bit grim at the moment.

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Re: [Alug] Freedom
by MJ Ray 18 Apr '01

18 Apr '01

David Freeman <david_freeman(a)rocketmail.com> writes: > > > admin : please don't curtail this one yet. > > Nuffink to do wi me, guv. These things run themselves mostly. > Who is the admin for the list? de facto me since MartynD started bouncing email for a bit ages ago (and he's mostly left the area now anyway), but some others can modify things too. -- MJR

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NLD (Shouldn't that be LID?)
by Earl Brannigan 18 Apr '01

18 Apr '01

Like the poster Jen....! Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. (Albert Einstein)

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Re: [Alug] Freedom
by MJ Ray 18 Apr '01

18 Apr '01

Earl Brannigan <earl.brannigan(a)lindenhouse.co.uk> writes: > Sorry, probably being a thick but what's NLD? National Linux Day, I guess. Another thing succumbs to UEA TLA disease. What's the state of the todo list now? I'll hopefully get the material from LinuxSure tomorrow, but we still need a decent disclaimer for people to sign and some other suitable printed material. There's a press release nearing ready to go, I understand, and there's reportedly a poster out there which I'd love a copy of (Hint Hint). > admin : please don't curtail this one yet. Nuffink to do wi me, guv. These things run themselves mostly. -- MJR

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LinuxDay promo
by MJ Ray 16 Apr '01

16 Apr '01

I've set the reply-to accordingly, so if someone would write a short piece on what we're doing, it should go to the list and Denny for the article. This is a good opportunity to promote the LUG and help a new UK-based magazine site. Of course, my involvement in both doesn't colour my opinion ;-) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:16:07 +0100 (BST) From: Denny <denny(a)concretecow.com> This is an excerpt from a mail on the developers' list for the about-to-launch open source website Think Open (www.thinkopen.co.uk) which grew from the ashes of the LinuxUK website... I'd like to hear comments etc... I'm willing to co-ordinate the snippets and write them up into an article if everyone wants to mail them to me? We could do a follow-up afterward as well, that could be quite good... Thoughts? Denny - --------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 09:03:56 +0100 Reply-To: linuxuk-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net To: linuxuk-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [ThinkOpen-devel] Manifesto Instead of just looking for HOWTO articles for the opening, why not add loadsa stuff about what the UK lugs are planning for LinuxDay (10 days now). Get each LUG organiser to write 10 lines describing what they are planning and put it into one article. Perhaps we might get them to write a full article, I dunno. -- MJR

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Weekly IRC meeting reminder
by Adam Bower 16 Apr '01

16 Apr '01

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Re: [Alug] Unix File sharing
by MJ Ray 14 Apr '01

14 Apr '01

Adam Bower <abower(a)zeus.com> writes: > Aah, you have mentioned the unmentionable, I wouldn't use linux as a NFS > server ever! I would recommend that you use Solaris for NFS as Sun > invented NFS (at work we say definitivly broken) it is the reference > platform for other *nix. Linux is a great NFS client though... Oddly enough, the kernel nfs in Linux 2.2 has been better for me than the Solaris implementation in 2.5.1 and 2.6. Solaris 7 and 8 are better than 2.2, so I'm hoping that the 2.4 kernels will level things up again. The non-kernel nfs server isn't worth using, though, and in most cases you should use rsize=8192,wsize=8192. Now I've rebuilt this machine, I'm off to play with ext3 (mangled /home, here we come!). Any last words of advice? -- MJR

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