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Thunderbird and LDAP
by Jenny Hopkins 15 Oct '14

15 Oct '14

Hullo, I've set up an LDAP server for a client to share his address book between thunderbird (running on Ubuntu 14.04) and webmail. A new entry can be added manually from thunderbird, but there is no option to auto-add new addresses to any other address book than the thunderbird one. I've had a google goggle, and it seems I can't do anything about this - can anyone tell me I'm wrong and it is possible? If not, are there any clients that will allow this option? This is a serious drawback. Thanks, Jenny

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My incremental/snapshot backup system - now working
by Chris Green 09 Oct '14

09 Oct '14

Well I have implemented my simple incremental/snapshot backup strategy and it works pretty well. The whole thing comprises an rsync backup run daily by anacron in /etc/cron.daily, an rsync server/daemon on the backup NAS and a script on the NAS that rotates the backups. The whole lot is probably 100 lines of code in total - and that's *with* lots of comments! :-) I have appended the three main component files for those who want to see. The 'clever' bit is that all of the backups on the NAS except the two latest ones are completely inaccessible from the outside, you can only get at them if you have a login on the NAS. That's the bit that is rare in most backup systems I've looked at. You could maybe get a similar result with a 'pull' system run from the backup server but then that would be very slow on the underpowered NAS processor, on my system most of the work is done at the sending end (my desktop). ... oh and the *BIG* advantage is that all the backups are complete mirrors of the backed up files, no compression, no tar archives, you can navigate around the backups exactly as you can navigate around your current home directory. It means it's *very* eay to check that backups are OK and no special tools at all are needed to restore files, just copy the file you want. So, here is the rsync bit that is run by anacron on my desktop every day. The password is *only* for the rsync server on the backup machine, so access to the script only allows someone to run backups, nothing more. #!/bin/sh export RSYNC_PASSWORD='XXXXXX' # # # Daily backups, copy everything important to the backup machine # EXCLUDE1='--exclude tmp/ --exclude 'Mail/??/' --exclude .VirtualBox/ --exclude .gvfs/' EXCLUDE2='--exclude .cache/ --exclude lost+found' # # # Home directories # rsync -a --port=874 $EXCLUDE1 $EXCLUDE2 --link-dest=/old/home /home/ chris@dlink::chris2day/new/home # # # /etc # rsync -a --port=874 --link-dest=/old/etc /etc/ chris@dlink::chris2day/new/etc This is probably the most difficult bit, the rsyncd configuration file on the backup NAS. I could relax the security somewhat and it would be shorter and simpler. The 'post-xfer exec' runs the rotate.sh script after rsync has transferred the data. hosts allow = 192.168.1.4 hosts deny = * use chroot = no uid = chris gid = allaccount secrets file = /mnt/HD/HD_a2/chris/rsyncd/secrets pid file = /mnt/HD/HD_a2/chris/rsyncd/pid timeout = 300 strict modes = false # log file = /mnt/HD/HD_a2/chris/rsyncd/log [ chris2day ] path = /mnt/HD/HD_a2/chris/today read only = false list = yes post-xfer exec = /mnt/HD/HD_a2/chris/bin/rotate.sh auth users = chris ... and finally the rotate script which is the bit I was asking about previously. I had the algorithm pretty much right. It's a bit clumsy in the shell (ash, it's a busybox based NAS) but it's not quite messy enough to want to move to something better like Python. #!/bin/sh # # # Script to 'rotate' snapshots, runs after rsync creates a new # backup in the today/new directory # cd /mnt/HD/HD_a2/chris/bak # # # Get day, month and year # day=`date +%d` month=`date +%m` year=`date +%Y` # # # Check for first of the month # if [ $day = "1" ] then if [ $month = "1" ] then mv month12 $year else rm month12 fi # # # Move all the months up one # m=11 while [ $m != "0" ] do mv month$m month`expr $m + 1` m=`expr $m - 1` done else rmdir day31 fi # # # Move all the days up one # d=30 while [ $d != "0" ] do mv day$d day`expr $d + 1` d=`expr $d - 1` done # # # and copy the new day1 from today # # # Move the older backup from 'today' to 'bak' and change the # name of the newer one # mv ../today/old day1 mv ../today/new ../today/old mkdir ../today/new chown chris:allaccount ../today/new Like I said I really don't quite understand why rsnapshot et al manage to make it so complicated. OK, the above has 31 days and 12 months hard-coded but given that they're hard-linked snaphots that many backups doesn't take much space at all. -- Chris Green

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Unwanted hardware
by Chris Walker 08 Oct '14

08 Oct '14

I realise that it's unlikely but does anybody here have a use for an Asus desktop machine and a load of floppy discs? The desktop machine was originally running Windows XP but now has a copy of Robolinux on it - it's had various distros on it as I was trying them out for ease of install among other things. It only has 512MB of RAM but does come with an NEC LCD monitor, keyboard and mouse. Also kicking about are several boxes of 3.5" floppies totalling around 150. A few are 720k but most are 1.44MB and some are unused although I did buy them in 1994! If nobody wants them, they'll be going on Freecycle/Freegle. -- __ __| |_ __ __ .----------------------------------------------. / _/ _` \ V V / | mailto:alug_cdw@the-walker-household.co.uk | \__\__,_|\_/\_/ |______________________________________________|

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[ALUG Announce] ALUG Norwich Pub Meet Thursday 9th October
by Viperfang 06 Oct '14

06 Oct '14

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- Hello Norwich Aluggers, Our monthly ALUG Norwich social meeting will be held this Thursday, 9th October at The Coach and Horses (82 Thorpe Road, Norwich, NR1 1BA). The meeting officially starts at 8pm, although some people may arrive earlier. More information on those people can be found on the list and the IRC channel. If you are unsure if you will recognise us then make yourself and your intent to attend known by either posting on list or visiting us on IRC so we can look out for you rather than hiding in the corner. Optionally you could ask at the bar if they know where the geeky computer weirdos are and they'll point you in the right direction (seriously!). Another possibility is look for heaps of electronics on a table that may possibly look like movie props that would used for detonating explosives. Feel free to bring electronics/laptops/gadgets to the meet, you will by no means be alone. Ben Bewick aka Viperfang NB: This mail is automated, please refer to the usual sources for more information. ALUG Contact Details: Website : http://www.alug.org.uk/ IRC : #alug on irc.alug.org.uk List : http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo Twitter : http://twitter.com/anglianlug Identica: TBA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2381613902 ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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Default anacron run time of 07:30, what's the logic (if any) for this?
by Chris Green 03 Oct '14

03 Oct '14

I was just wondering why my system is sometimes somewhat busy in the morning and it occurred to me to that anacron might be something to do with it. This is my desktop system which is left turned on all the time. So, after digging around a bit I found that anacron gets run (via /etc/cron.d) at 07:30. So anything that takes a while, like a weekly incremental backup, can often be running when I'm using the computer. What's the reason for choosing 07:30? If the computer is never turned on at 07:30 then does anacron ever get run? Presumably it must get run as part of system start-up otherwise anacron tasks would never be run. So, why not set the default time to 02:30 or something similar so that, if the computer is turned on tasks get run in the small hours? It's easy enough to change of course and I will do so, but the default seems a little odd. -- Chris Green

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.deb vs .rpm (or apt-get vs yum)
by Mark Rogers 03 Oct '14

03 Oct '14

It's been many years since I last used a .rpm based distribution in anger, but the experience lead me to dislike them compared with .deb based distros. In particular I had a number of occasions where an installation issue lead me to a system that I could not fix, where that has never happened to me yet in all my years with .deb-based systems (Debian and Ubuntu). Sure I've had conflicts and problems, but I've always been able to get pas them. Am I right to trust .deb more than .rpm? Should I give (eg) Fedora another chance? Incidentally I also found package management faster with .deb (eg apt-get update vs yum update, apt-get install vs yum install). Stable beats speed but .deb seemed to give me both. Mark -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0844 251 1450 Registered in England (0456 0902) @ 13 Clarke Rd, Milton Keynes, MK1 1LG

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Command line database editor (for sqlite3)
by Chris Green 01 Oct '14

01 Oct '14

Is there such a thing? Of course I know and use the sqlite3 command line utility but that's just a way of running SQL from the command line. What I want is some sort of wrapper/utility that reads the data from the database, presents it to me in some sort of reasonably editable format and then, when I've changed something writes it back. I'd be happy enough with a simple browse facility plus some sort of way of changing individual fields. So "dbedit xyz.db table1" just presents me with the data in some sort of reasonable, scrollable column layout. Then some sort of command says "change column 10, row 4 to 'ABCDE'". -- Chris Green

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OT Domain name hosts
by Bev Nicolson 01 Oct '14

01 Oct '14

A bit off topic perhaps but I thought I'd ask you lot. Domain name hosting. Ted might be puzzled by this since I recommended 1&1 a while ago now. They haven't been a bother but it looks like I should think about transferring things for various reasons. Who out there is cheap and reliable? How do you find out exactly how much any one package will cost per year? I'm just talking about a domain name and related email address. Bev.

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Linux (Debian) boot problem
by Barry Samuels 30 Sep '14

30 Sep '14

I want to move my wife's operating system to another computer so that should involve a simple 'move the hard drive' operation shouldn't it? Wrong! I've not come across anything like this before. The drive boots happily in my wife's computer but if I move it to either of two other computers it starts to boot and then stops with various errors. mount: mounting /dev/root on /root failed: No such file of directory the same with sys and proc. Then there is a Busybox line and I end up in a shell prompt: '(initramfs) but the line before that says: /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off and nothing appears when I type on the keyboard so I'm stuck. This is using Squeeze with a standard Debian linux-image package, 2.6.32-5-686, which includes an initrd image. My wife's current computer uses an Athlon XP CPU and the one I'm trying to move to uses a Core 2 Duo both of which are covered by the linux-image. Any ideas would be very welcome. -- Barry Samuels http://www.beenthere-donethat.org.uk The Unofficial Guide to Great Britain

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Sort of design/philosphy/way to do it sort of question about remotely gathering data and putting in a database
by Chris Green 30 Sep '14

30 Sep '14

I have a Beaglebone Black which gathers various bits of data on our boat in France. At present these comprise some temperatures and battery voltages and currents but there might be other things added. I want to store these in a sqlite database on my desktop machine here at home. The mechanics of doing this are easy enough, I store the data in a file named for the date and time on the Beaglebone Black and at intervals my desktop machine mounts the directory where these files are saved (using sshfs), reads the data, inserts it into the database and then deletes the file. This means that if the connection fails for a while then nothing is lost, it's probably not by any means perfect but it's good enough, my life doesn't depend on the data! :-) At the moment the receiving end just assumes there are ten values sent and that they are in a specific order. E.g. there's a file there at the moment whose name is "2014-09-29_15:05.od" and whose contents are:- '2014-09-29 15:05', 22.125, 22.75, 13.6285714286, 13.8876923077, 34.36875, 0.253125, 14.85, 8.803125, 8 I'm not really happy with this because it means that any changes I do have to be 'synchronised' at the two ends to keep their knowledge of which value is which in step. Is there a standard way of labelling values in this sort of situation? Should I send a file something like:- DateTime, '2014-09-29 15:05' InsideTemperature, 22.125 OutsideTemperature, 22.75 LeisureVolts, 13.6285714286 StarterVolts, 13.8876923077 LeisureAmps1, 34.36875 etc. Then the first column of this data is the database field name and the second column is the data. If a field name doesn't exist then the receiving program/script will create a new column. This rather depends on there always being a DateTime field so maybe the receiving script could reject files with no DateTime value. Does this seem a reasonable way to do it or are there better ways, or should I just stay with the existing set-up where the order is significant? -- Chris Green

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2600 meeting at 18:00 on Friday the 3rd October.
by Viperfang 30 Sep '14

30 Sep '14

Quick heads up about this months Norwich 2600 meeting, more info at http://www.norwich2600.co.uk

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Bash flaw - uh oh
by Bev Nicolson 29 Sep '14

29 Sep '14

What should we do? Here it's just me and my computer to worry about for example and I have a firewall and a virus checker installed. Is that enough? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-29361794 Bev

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Phone backups
by Chris Walker 28 Sep '14

28 Sep '14

Hello, I have a Jolla phone which runs linux. Unfortunately the speaker has stopped working which rather renders it useless as a phone so it has to go back to Finland for repair. Jolla have suggested I take a backup as they will reset it and wipe it. But their backup doesn't backup everything so can I copy everything off it perhaps from this machine? I easily ssh into the phone as a user and then switch to 'devel-su' mode but I don't appear to be able to ssh into it as root. I've tried to run scp from within the phone (using ssh) to a NAS drive but I can't make it connect. At this stage I'd rather not install loads of extra software on the phone just to do the backup so any ideas about copying everything off the phone before it goes back would be appreciated. -- __ __| |_ __ __ .----------------------------------------------. / _/ _` \ V V / | mailto:alug_cdw@the-walker-household.co.uk | \__\__,_|\_/\_/ |______________________________________________|

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device only (or caldav) calendar on android
by mick 24 Sep '14

24 Sep '14

Hi Guys I have just bought a new mobile (dual sim Moto G) to replace both my main 'phone and a backup. I am /not/ a huge fan of Google, but since I hate apple even more, the android device offers me the best functionality for the least inavsion of privacy (within limits). Before even transferring my personal data I locked the damned thing down to try to prevent as much google synchronisation as I could (but still, stupidly, managed to let the bloody thing send my contacts because I mssed one of the buried sync settings). That aside, I now really want to move my calendar data to the new device. Previous devices (from HTC, Sony and Samsung) have allowed me to set up a local, "device only" calendar. This new one won't and insists that I link in a google account before I can add /any/ data at all. So I'm looking for an alternative app. What I'd really like is a CalDav style application which allows local only storage on the 'phone, but will later allow me to sync to my own server (when I finally get around to setting up owncloud). Any and all advice (short of "throw the 'phone away") gratefully accepted. Most of the calaenadrs on the google play site appear to be little more than alternative skins to the underlying android calendar. Cheers Mick --------------------------------------------------------------------- Mick Morgan gpg fingerprint: FC23 3338 F664 5E66 876B 72C0 0A1F E60B 5BAD D312 http://baldric.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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Linux Job - Devops/Sytems Engineer - Cambourne/Cambridge. £35k-£45k
by Adam Bower 23 Sep '14

23 Sep '14

Hi all, I currently work for http://www.swiftserve.com and we're recruiting for at least one and possibly 2 Linux systems/devops engineer positions. I've attached the job description below, sorry about the formatting. Currently we're based in Cambourne but we're moving to Milton in January. This is a permanent position and we're wanting people to start as soon as possible. Salary is in a range from £35k-£45k, possibly a bit more for exceptional candidates. If you want to send an application or have questions then please send a CV/email to my work email address: abower(a)swiftserve.com Description: We are looking for a Dev Ops engineer with strong Linux skills to work on automation, deployment, monitoring, integration and investigating complex issues. Responsibilities: The successful candidate will have overall help work closely with our Engineering and Operations teams to help improve our automation, packaging, continuous integration and monitoring across our PaaS offerings. Will help work with our field engineers and support teams to investigate complex issues and design and architect customer solutions to meet customers needs. Investigate complicated issues, debugging distributed systems involving multiple components to isolate problems. As part of investigation it is expected that this person will be able to reference the source code to understand what is going on, and perform investigations involving packet dumps, log files and monitoring data from multiple systems. Work with engineering and product leads to provide feedback on to the product into areas where it can be improved and enhanced. This role will involve some out-of-hours work on deployments and/or on-call rotas. Experience/Skillset Required: Excellent Linux skills - solid background in systems administration, knowledge/experience of investigating issues and bottlenecks. Strong understanding of Internet networking covering IP networks, Internet protocols and technologies, packet dumps. Good basic programming experience, able to write and understand programs in a variety of languages with experience of Python (or at least Python-like languages such as Ruby or Perl) and Javascript. Experience of using Unix tools to help analyse log files (e.g. use of tools like ‘awk’, ‘grep’, ‘uniq’) Experience of using automation tools for deployment (e.g. Puppet or Chef) and monitoring tools. Experience of using/building network monitoring and alerting systems. Experience of Linux software packaging (e.g. building RPMs or DEBs) Pragmatic and flexible attitude, and a desire to solve the customer requirement. Fluent English speaker with good written and verbal communication skills. Able to work in the UK (EU citizen or existing work permit), and able to work predominantly in our Cambourne office. Useful Knowledge of video-related technologies covering encoding (transcoding), protection (DRM) and delivery protocols (HLS, HDS, Smooth, RTMP) Basic understanding of C, C++ and Java. The Company We are a self-funded and established start-up employing about 35 people around the world. We are tackling the challenges around the delivery of large volumes of data (e.g. video) over the Internet. As such we provide content delivery services to some of the largest networks in the world and are responsible for service provision with extremely high uptime requirements. Thanks Adam

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How to change ssh destination depending on connected LAN?
by Chris Green 23 Sep '14

23 Sep '14

As I move around from home to various other places different systems that I connect to from my laptop become 'local'. Being a lazy person I really don't want to type in long complicated ssh commands when I'm connecting remotely. Thus I have in the ~/.ssh/config file the following:- Host cheddar HostName cheddar.halon.org.uk Host halon HostName cheddar.halon.org.uk Host chris ProxyCommand ssh cheddar nc -q0 zbmc.eu 22 Host odin ProxyCommand ssh cheddar nc -q0 localhost 51234 This means I can simply type 'ssh chris' or 'ssh odin' and ssh with the above config file does all the hard work for me. However it means that when I'm at home for example (where 'chris' is my desktop on the LAN) if I type 'ssh chris' I get connected to my desktop machine via the internet which is rather ridiculous. Can anyone come up with an easy way to change how 'ssh chris' acts according to whether I'm on the LAN where 'chris' is or not. Similarly I want the same to happen when I'm on the LAN where 'odin' is (which is not the same LAN). -- Chris Green

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Re: [ALUG] How to change ssh destination depending on connected LAN?
by Chris Green 22 Sep '14

22 Sep '14

On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 01:58:00PM +0100, Laurie Brown wrote: > On 22/09/14 13:49, Chris Green wrote: > > [SNIP] > > > As I have pointed out in a previous reply this doesn't work because of > > the ProxyAddress stuff I have in my ~/.ssh/config file. I need some > > way to switch the ProxyCommand off when I'm on the LAN. > > Why not have two such files, each specific to a particular location, and > write a bash script with a parameter to copy over your ~/.ssh/config > file whichever version you need? I really don't understand the problem here. > Fine, it's just the sort of thing I was thinking of doing. My question was really how to automate the switch over by (somehow) detecting whether I'm connected to the LAN or not. -- Chris Green

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Re: [ALUG] How to change ssh destination depending on connected LAN?
by Chris Green 22 Sep '14

22 Sep '14

On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 10:38:42AM +0100, mick wrote: > On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 08:52:26 +0100 > Chris Green <cl(a)isbd.net> allegedly wrote: > > > On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 11:25:23PM +0100, steve-ALUG(a)hst.me.uk wrote: > > > On 20/09/14 13:19, Chris Green wrote: > > > >As I move around from home to various other places different > > > >systems that I connect to from my laptop become 'local'. Being a > > > >lazy person I really don't want to type in long complicated ssh > > > >commands when I'm connecting remotely. Thus I have in the > > > >~/.ssh/config file the following:- > > Sigh. > > Chris > > Why do you keep asking variants of the same question? Lots of different > people have taken the time and effort to answer those questions for > you at various times in the past, yet you ignore the answers and come > back with yet another variant of the "how do I do this when connecting > to/from my boat"? > Please read the question! :-) It's very much *not* the same question as I've asked before. The specific issue is because of my use of ProxyCommand in my ~/.ssh/config file. It's *not* "how do I get local names to work". -- Chris Green

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mp3splt and regex
by Chris Walker 22 Sep '14

22 Sep '14

Hello, I'm struggling to split an mp3 file and simultaneously enter some tags in to the output. The input filename which is a get_iplayer download looks like this 'David_Rodigan_-_02_09_2014.mp3' and my problem is adding tags to the output. How do I make 'David_Rodigan' appear as 'title' in the output tags? I guessed that David would appear as first_part and Rodigan as second_part but I can't see a way to concatenate those two items to form title. My attempt looks like this :- mp3splt -G (?<title>):first_part+" "+second_part David_Rodigan_-_02_09_2014.mp3 3.00 60.00 -o /split/David_Rodigan_-_02_09_2014 But that fails with bash: syntax error near unexpected token `(' I'm looking at this page for inspiration but it isn't helping! http://mp3splt.sourceforge.net/mp3splt_page/documentation/man.html Perhaps somebody here can explain where I'm going wrong please? -- __ __| |_ __ __ .----------------------------------------------. / _/ _` \ V V / | mailto:alug_cdw@the-walker-household.co.uk | \__\__,_|\_/\_/ |______________________________________________|

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Any idear how this router running Linux configures itself?
by Chris Green 21 Sep '14

21 Sep '14

I have a little Solwise 3G router on my boat. I have just discovered it runs Linux and I can telnet into it. Even better it runs dnsmasq so, if I can configure it appropriately then I can get it to provide local DNS. However I can't work out where it configures itself from at boot time. If I edit /etc/hosts for example then, if I reboot, my changes are lost. There's an /etc_ro directory but nothing really much in there gives a clue. There's even an /etc_ro/rcS file which is obviously executed fairly early on in the boot sequence but it's not early enough to indicate where the basic configuration lives. The motd file says:- ------------------------------------------------------ Welcome to HAME Technology Co.,Ltd =System Architecture Department= ------------------------------------------------------ ... oh, it as busybox for most of the commands. Does anyone have any idea how it starts up and configures itself? -- Chris Green

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Is there such a thing as a 'WiFi switch' to add WiFi to a LAN - if so what's it called?
by Chris Green 18 Sep '14

18 Sep '14

I'm not even sure such a thing exists but it feels as if it ought to. I want a 'WiFi switch' that I can plug into an existing LAN such that it allows WiFi access on the *same* subnet. Thus it won't do anything clever like DHCP or DNS or anything as that will be done by existing devices on the LAN. All the 'range extenders' I can find are WiFi both in and out and also tend to create their own subnet. Anyway I need something that hangs on a hard-wired ethernet connection. Is there such a thing? -- Chris Green

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Ubuntu startup scripts
by Mark Rogers 17 Sep '14

17 Sep '14

Where are the various places that processes can be started on desktop login on Ubuntu? Specifically: My laptop has an encrypted Truecrypt partition, and a Dropbox share on it. On login Dropbox tries to start and can't access its directory because at that point I haven't mounted the TC volume. Dropbox is listed in the Startup Applications GUI, which as far as I can tell just lists whatever is in ~/.config/autostart. However, if I remove it from there (either from the GUI or by deleting dropbox.desktop, and with Dropbox stopped when I do it), if I log out and back in again it puts itself back and starts again. Where is that coming from? Furthermore: if I replace dropbox.desktop with an empty read only file, it doesn't get replaced but Dropbox still starts. How? Further furthemore: I have my own bash script which prompts me for the TC volume password, mounts it, then starts dropbox. I have added that to ~/.config/autostart (via the GUI), but my script doesn't seem to start. What might I be doing wrong? Over the years I have spent ages removing viruses on Windows and got used to the idea that there are dozens of places that you can configure applications to start automatically but I thought Linux would be a bit cleaner than that! This has prompted me to learn more about the startup process. -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0844 251 1450 Registered in England (0456 0902) @ 13 Clarke Rd, Milton Keynes, MK1 1LG

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Simple way to find local subnet?
by Chris Green 16 Sep '14

16 Sep '14

Is there a simple way to get the value of the local subnet to which one is connected? I know I can derive it from what ifconfig outputs but using grep to get '192.168.13.0' from output like:- eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr f0:de:f1:2b:f9:13 UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:1533 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:2135 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:820119 (820.1 KB) TX bytes:231948 (231.9 KB) Interrupt:20 Memory:f2500000-f2520000 lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:65536 Metric:1 RX packets:1181 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:1181 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:126765 (126.7 KB) TX bytes:126765 (126.7 KB) wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:24:d7:6e:3d:08 inet addr:192.168.13.104 Bcast:192.168.13.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::224:d7ff:fe6e:3d08/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:8144 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:8180 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:3358385 (3.3 MB) TX bytes:1152063 (1.1 MB) .... seems a little more difficult than it should be. Presumably arp-scan does it somehow when you use 'arp-scan -l'. -- Chris Green

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Thunderbird oddness
by Bev Nicolson 15 Sep '14

15 Sep '14

Thunderbird seems to be selective about which emails it marks as replied to with the blue arrow now so I'm uncertain whether they've been sent or not. I haven't changed any settings so does anyone know why this might be? (24.2.0) Bev.

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Raspberry Pi hwclock
by Mark Rogers 15 Sep '14

15 Sep '14

Anyone here added a real time clock to the Pi? It's pretty trivial in principle but "The Internet" seems to be littered with various ways to configure the Pi to use it, most of which include adding it to /etc/rc.local rather than (for example) /etc/init.d/hwclock.sh. My objective is to have a solution that (a) requires minimal changes to a stock Raspbian (ie the fewer files to add/modify the better), (b) will detect whether an RTC has been added and roll back to using the fake hwclock concept otherwise, (c) use NTP to maintain the clock (including writing to hwclock) when an Internet connection is available and (d) do all this as early into the boot process as possible so minimal services start up with an inaccurate clock. All of that sounds like a fairly desirable standard but most solutions I've found seem to fall short of at least part, and frequently most, of that. -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0844 251 1450 Registered in England (0456 0902) @ 13 Clarke Rd, Milton Keynes, MK1 1LG

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