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Re: [Alug] mouse config puzzle
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 03 Apr '01

03 Apr '01

Thankyou! The line ln -s /dev/psaux /dev/mouse has fixed the problem and I now have xwindow running. (Excitement...........) Jenny

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Linux/Open Source seminar at the University of Birmingham - April 24th
by James G Drever 02 Apr '01

02 Apr '01

I am organising a seminar on Linux and Open Source software at the University of Birmingham on April 24th. The seminar is sponsored by IBM and features speakers from IBM, Red Hat, SUSE, Fujitsu and the University of Birmingham. The intention of the seminar is to highlight the advantages of using Linux/Open Source software in a business environment. If anyone from Anglian LUG is interested in attending, there are further details, including registration forms, at http://www.advanced-telematics.com/ or please contact me at the number below. Many thanks. Dr James Drever The Centre for Advanced Telematics University of Birmingham 0121 414 2215

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Weekly IRC meeting reminder
by Adam Bower 02 Apr '01

02 Apr '01

This is the automated ALUG irc meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an irc meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.openprojects.net in the #alug channel, you can take a look at www.openprojects.net to get more info on the openprojects network. Popular irc clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and ircII on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.bitchx.com http://www.xchat.org http://freshmeat.net Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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ATX, Open Tshirts, 29/4/01 and DVD
by David Freeman 01 Apr '01

01 Apr '01

All, As usual it never rains but it poors. I have a number of questions, and was wondering if anyone else on the list could help. 1) Is it possible to configure linux to turn an ATX pc off when you run halt? 2) Who was the person on mondays IRC who had started a open tshirts project? 3) Does anyone know if and what is happening on 29/04/01 with regard National linux day? We only have 29 days left to plan! 4) And finally, I currently refuse to buy a DVD player(as in Hi-fi seprate) for a number of reasons, most notably I feel that region coding is an infringment on my rights. But I do feel alot happier with the idea of playing DVD's from linux with the DeCSS(or similiar) code. Can anyone advise on what I would need to play DVD's full screen(or even better 16:9 on a normal screen) with normal stereo sound out the sound card. 4-b) What would I then require to output the sound to a AC-3 decoder? Thanks D __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text

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RE: [Alug] ATX, Open Tshirts, 29/4/01 and DVD
by David Freeman 31 Mar '01

31 Mar '01

--- John Woodard <mail(a)johnwoodard.co.uk> wrote: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: alug-admin(a)stu.uea.ac.uk [mailto:alug-admin@stu.uea.ac.uk]On > > Behalf Of David Freeman > > Sent: 31 March 2001 19:47 > > To: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > > Subject: [Alug] ATX, Open Tshirts, 29/4/01 and DVD > > > > > > All, > > > > As usual it never rains but it poors. I have a number of questions, > and > > was wondering if anyone else on the list could help. > > > > 1) Is it possible to configure linux to turn an ATX pc off when you > run > > halt? > > Configure APM in the bios to do so and it should work. APM?? whats APM? > > 2) Who was the person on mondays IRC who had started a open tshirts > > project? > > Missed that put me down for an xxl > > > 3) Does anyone know if and what is happening on 29/04/01 with > regard > > National linux day? We only have 29 days left to plan! > > Mark Ray was getting a room booked. We must do some publicity etc. > though, > I suggest we meet to discuss on IRC tomorrow night. very good idea. Does someone want to take owner ship of this? (tomorrow as in the normal monday meet of tomorrow the sunday meet?) > > 4) And finally, I currently refuse to buy a DVD player(as in Hi-fi > > seprate) for a number of reasons, most notably I feel that region > > coding is an infringment on my rights. But I do feel alot happier > with > > the idea of playing DVD's from linux with the DeCSS(or similiar) > code. > > Can anyone advise on what I would need to play DVD's full screen(or > > even better 16:9 on a normal screen) with normal stereo sound out > the > > sound card. > > Plenty of de-regionalized stand alone players on the market. Is your > DVD > drive firmware fixed or can it be de-regonalized by a flash upgrade? > Mine > can't so I'm stuck with region 2. :( I don't yet have a DVD drive as I wasn't sure If I could get a multi region one or not. Can you? if so which ones are any good? > I'd also be interested in trying out full screen DVD anyone got it > working? When I find out how I'll put it on my web site. Thanks D > Cheers, > BJ > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text

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installing debian probs
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 29 Mar '01

29 Mar '01

Hullo list. I'm stuck in a loop installing this here debian...... "do you want to create /etc/X11/XF86Config file? y/n" y ......."_X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111 Unable to communicate with X server! The /etc/X11/XF86Config file was not created. Press [Enter] to switch to graphics mode. This may take a while... Press [Enter] to continue Pressing enter, of course, takes it back to the beginning, but there doesn't seem to be another option. Any ideas? Thanks, Jenny.

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debian kernel source problem
by d.casal 28 Mar '01

28 Mar '01

Hi all, Just trudging along trying to install ALSA. Have recompiled kernel to support VFAT, sound (with no modules), and loadable module support. Compiled the ALSA driver (finally), after realizing it was looking for sources in /usr/src/linux and inserting --with-kernel=/usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.12 (where my recompiled srcs live). Now though, a problem with recompiling the lib packages (alsa). On the mailing list archives, it says I might have to upgrade libc (suggestion was to upgrade to frozen/potato libc6)... Is it alright to have sources live as kernel-source-2.2.12? How do I change that to /usr/src/linux if I need to? Because I wanted to boot an NTFS partition also, I did 'make zdisk' after 'make bzImage' (linux kernel how-to) so I could boot from diskette...is that the problem? How do I actually get libc6 installed? sorry for the multiple newbie questions, just excited to be close to having ALSA-SBLive! working. d ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------- david casal +44 (0) 1603-613607 | d.casal(a)uea.ac.uk http://www.ariada.uea.ac.uk/~dcasal | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------\

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Follow up to "FTP and telnet connections to a RH box"
by David Howe 27 Mar '01

27 Mar '01

Thanks all of you, my resolve.conf was somewhat blank - fixed it ;) David Howe

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FTP and telnet connections to a RH box
by David Howe 27 Mar '01

27 Mar '01

Greetings, I've just reinstalled RH61 onto the same (local) box it was on before - but now for some reason when I try to FTP or telnet into it it makes the connection but never sends a response request for username and password (or at least it times out after a couple of minutes) so I can't actually log in! I can however Samba into it no probs and http works fine too - any ideas as I'm only a low-to-middling propellorhead. I have changed nothing hardwarewise all I did was reformat and install from the exact same copy of RH61 as previously - I suspect I may not have included something in the custom install. Kind regards, Dave Howe hippy(a)thehippy.com

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Re: [Alug] Debian Install
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 27 Mar '01

27 Mar '01

"apt-get install"?? groan, there go the next three months for a start............the nice Debian book has a section on it, minds. Thanks, though, basic it is. I have to learn sometime, ...........[When's the next meeting......? ;-)] Jen

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Debian Install
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 27 Mar '01

27 Mar '01

Hi All, - any advice? Installing Debian - would you recommend "Basic" as the O'Reilly Debian book instructs for initial users, or would I be better with one of the other options? I want networking, samba, X. I can see me installing basic then spending the rest of the year trying to add the extras. Adam - many thanks for the loan of the Debian book, BTW, it's most helpful. Thanks, Jenny.

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Linux Install Problems?
by tom potts 27 Mar '01

27 Mar '01

Just got a copy of RH7 (£5) from linuxdot.org. I installed a 'workstation' onto my Dell Latitude C600 via the DVD rom - it took 20 (twenty!) minutes from loading the cd, making the boot disk,to install nearly a gig and recognised all the devices, make and boot from a boot floppy and be up and running in Gnome. I though I'd mention this as laptops are often a problem. Tom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text

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Re: [Alug] Tuxedo T Penguin
by MJ Ray 27 Mar '01

27 Mar '01

Thom May <thom(a)clearairturbulence.freeserve.co.uk> writes: > The real story is that Linus got bit by a penguin (a 15 foot > mutant one, as he tells it) at Sydney Zoo, when he was visiting > Andrew Tridgell (the guy that started the samba project). Why do fairy penguins always make me think of fairy cakes? I should see someone about that. Anyway, thanks to David for the pointer to a nice read. -- MJR

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alsa-long filenames
by d.casal 27 Mar '01

27 Mar '01

Hi all, anonymous coward (though pretty constant reader): After much elbow grease and humbling experiences, I've managed a Debian 2.2 kernel re-compile (very scary for a newbie like me) so to get sound support without soundcard selection (needed by ALSA drivers) and to enable loadable modules. Now though, everything I read with a long filename (from a CD burnt in windoze, 'course) such as alsa-driver0.5a.bz2 comes up alsa-d~1.bz2, so killing the file when I try to untar. I know there is an easy way to do this (please?), but do I have to recompile the kernel again to support long filenames? Feeling closer than ever to getting a stable system running PD (see www.pure-data.org), proud I'm finally running Debian (a.savory's advice) cheers, david ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------- david casal +44 (0) 1603-613607 | d.casal(a)uea.ac.uk http://www.ariada.uea.ac.uk/~dcasal | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------\

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Weekly IRC meeting reminder
by Adam Bower 26 Mar '01

26 Mar '01

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Linuxcare recovery CD
by Ian Thompson-Bell 25 Mar '01

25 Mar '01

Has anyone else tried out the Linuxcare recovery CD given out at the last meeting. I tried booting from mine but is stalls trying to detect my PCI SCSI card. Ian

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Smoothwall chat, was Re: [Alug] IRC meeting reminders
by MJ Ray 25 Mar '01

25 Mar '01

Paul Tansom <Paul(a)whaletales.co.uk> writes: [...] > Haven't checked the ALUG site for connection details yet, but I have one > available volunteer so far, and if I can get my home machine configured > in time, and juggle the necessary time in I may be able to join myself. > So fingers crossed we should be able to talk techie with you :-) Ugh, I've just had a bad attack of Real Life(tm) and I'm not confident that this will be a success if we do it now, because I haven't promoted this through the channels that I wanted to. All my ALUG time is currently being taken up with trying to straighten out the blasted website (Martyn, where are you?). If we could postpone it to the second Monday in January (the 8th), then I'll try to get the word out properly. The bot for placing questions by those who can't guarantee a presence should be available from some time on the afternoon of Friday the 5th. I'll be backing up the questions at regular intervals just in case UEA drops off the net. Of course, you (like all ALUG members) are more than welcome to join in the usual chat on Monday evening at 2000 on eu.openprojects.net #alug. It would be lovely to meet some more of the newbies and have a big attendance for what will probably be the last opportunity before Christmas. -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] Your reply
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 19 Mar '01

19 Mar '01

>Now I was just thinking it is about time for a FAQ, and I am willing to >spend a bit of time writing one out for us, I will try and make sure I get >a rough draft done before the end of the week so that this does not >stagnate. A useful thing amongst the FAQ would be a list of useful links to linux-related sites. Want me to send along any I've found?

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Linux on a AJP SiS 630 Notebook
by govind chandra (JIC) 19 Mar '01

19 Mar '01

I have recently acquired an AJP notebook which is based on a SiS 630 chipset. The video RAM is shared from the main memory and is currently set to 16 Mb. I am unable to get X running on it. The screen just goes white and stays that way. If someone has configured X on a similar machine I would greatly appreciate some help. The manual says that the display is TFT XGA but gives no hsync or vsync frequencies. If someone could give me an idea of what these are on similar displays then I could try tweaking the modelines in the XF86Config. Best wishes Govind

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Re: [Alug] Your reply
by MJ Ray 19 Mar '01

19 Mar '01

Jenny_Hopkins(a)toby-churchill.com writes: > I've been thinking about this reply for a day or two. I was actually bit > shocked by it. With all respect to the guys who run the show, I wonder if > you mean to be so elitist? [...] Whoa whoa whoa! It's not intended to be elitist, it's just a self-defence mechanism. Indeed, the point I was trying to make was that OK, ALUG is informal, but we can't let anything go. Security announcements are blatantly best done elsewhere, else malicious types could put out alerts that most of us don't have the knowledge to check and we stop getting any useful work done. There are countless other mailing lists for security announcements. It would be a shame if this list becomes another one and kills our user group in the process. I doubt anyone wants that. Similarly job ads: from some discussions, I'd suggest either adopting Adam's proposal of only allowing a few people to vet and post job ads, to point people to some jobs site or other, or to set up an alug-jobs mailing list. It's probably time to compile a list "Charter" or FAQ, pointing people towards other more appropriate resources for common requirements like good security alerts. Anyone able to help on this? > PS. I am running 6.2 and had no idea that patches were needed. Read The Fine Manuals. You should *always* follow security announcements, regardless of distribution, operating system, etc. All computers are insecure, except when switched off and locked away. Perhaps a "Securing Linux" talk or two at the next meeting? Any takers? Once again, I'm sorry if I upset or intimidated anyone. That wasn't my intention at all. Please don't take it as such. Like the job ads, there's a real danger we could drown in real (new and old) and fake security alerts, which would kill this list. I just didn't want that to happen. The open atmosphere on here is something I love, but sometimes a little note of caution has to be sounded. Sorry for making it a bit loud this time. -- MJR

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irc meeting reminder
by Adam Bower 19 Mar '01

19 Mar '01

Hi People, I havn't put it in cron yet, but here is my sample text for the meeting reminder if there is anything wrong or obviously or broken in this please let me know so I can correct it. Adam This is the automated ALUG irc meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an irc meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.openprojects.net in the #alug channel, you can take a look at www.openprojects.net to get more info on the openprojects network. Popular irc clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and ircII on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.bitchx.com http://www.xchat.org http://freshmeat.net Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!) -- Adam Bower, <abower(a)zeus.com> Tel: +44 1223 525000 System Administrator Fax: +44 1223 525100 Zeus Technology Ltd http://www.zeus.com Zeus House, Cowley Road Cambridge CB4 0ZT England

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Sun Sparcstation
by Chris Allen 18 Mar '01

18 Mar '01

Thanks for the many requests for the SparcStation. The first to reply was Andrew Savory - sorry to everyone else who requested it.. Amazingly I offered this machine to our local school, together with help and advice on setting it up, etc, and they weren't interested. It wasn't windows compatible!!

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ALUG-IRC 8pm tonight (Monday)
by MJ Ray 16 Mar '01

16 Mar '01

ALUG-IRC meetings are held Monday evenings at 8pm on eu.openprojects.net channel #alug ... see you there! (So who said they'd put this email in a crontab?)

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Re: [Alug] who's clever with bash scripts?
by MJ Ray 15 Mar '01

15 Mar '01

bsamuels(a)datamansys.co.uk writes: > I copied this from a posting I saw on a newsgroup and it works > perfectly well when run by root from the command line. However if I > set it up to be run as a root cron job it doesn't work as it should. [...] > Can anyone offer advice as to why this should be happening? Almost certainly a path problem, I would expect. While ifconfig may be in root's default path, cron tends to run with a different environment to minimise security problems. Try giving full path of things like ifconfig and see what happens. -- MJR

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who's clever with bash scripts?
by bsamuels＠datamansys.co.uk 15 Mar '01

15 Mar '01

I have created a script as under: #!/bin/sh # Start the connection pon # Wait until the connection is made until ifconfig ppp0 | grep "inet addr" > /dev/null; do sleep 1; done; # Get the mail and then poff. Using ; is better than && because # fetchmail exits with an error if it doesn't get any mail. fetchmail -d0 > /dev/null ; poff I copied this from a posting I saw on a newsgroup and it works perfectly well when run by root from the command line. However if I set it up to be run as a root cron job it doesn't work as it should. After the script has been started by cron I see an entry for the script and an entry for 'sleep 1' in the list of running processes. If I run ifconfig ppp0 at this time I see a line starting 'inet addr' but the 'until' loop never exits. Can anyone offer advice as to why this should be happening? Barry Samuels

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