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Where are you Ipswich people??
by cepi x 16 Dec '00

16 Dec '00

Somehow, all Linux-Magazine and Linux-Formats get sold in Ipswich within days and here hasn't seen yet an Ipswich Linux user...where are u guys...wake up...stop me on the street :--)...just a tought CEPi UCS Ipswich Software Engineering __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/

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Re: Where are you Ipswich people??
by Deana 16 Dec '00

16 Dec '00

Hello Jenny. I'm quite new (well, six months or so) to Linux, and getting ready to evict Mr Gate$ machinations from my primary hd. You can get lots of help from the PCPlus forums (nntp.futurenet.com) in the linux.beginner newsgroup, and have a laugh on pcplus.test Good luck. -- Regards, Deana deana(a)linuxfan.com

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Re: [Alug] Where are you Ipswich people??
by David Freeman 15 Dec '00

15 Dec '00

Bear in mind the large campus place on the east side of ipswich has a high consentration of techies. In my office alone about 8 people are hardened linux users. Extrapolate that over the 5000 people on the site it must be a few hundred people. Thats probably where there all going. D --- cepi x <cepi77(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Somehow, all Linux-Magazine and Linux-Formats get sold > in Ipswich within days and here hasn't seen yet an > Ipswich Linux user...where are u guys...wake up...stop > me on the street :--)...just a tought > > CEPi > > UCS Ipswich > Software Engineering > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. > http://shopping.yahoo.com/ > > > _______________________________________________ > alug, the Anglian Linux User Group list > Email: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > http://rabbit.stu.uea.ac.uk/cgi-bin/listinfo/alug > See the website for instructions on digest or unsub! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/

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Re: [Alug] Where are you Ipswich people??
by MJ Ray 15 Dec '00

15 Dec '00

Jenny_Hopkins(a)toby-churchill.com writes: > I was wondering what level you guys are all on....I'm a newcomer, and hope > that I'm not going to waste anyone's time posting idiotic questions. Oh, there's a whole range of us, I think. There aren't enough newbies for my liking, though, so I'd encourage anyone to tell any linux-trying friends to invite them to join the mailing list. > I'll probably lurk for a bit and try and assess the level you are all on, - > are there any others out there who are beginners? I'm sure there are. I've been using Linux for work and at home for a while now, but I still get shown up by these people who actually know what's going on in the internals ;-) -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] Where are you Ipswich people??
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 15 Dec '00

15 Dec '00

>where are u guys...wake up...stop > me on the street Hello All. I've just joined the list, I'm from Burwell (near Newmarket), I work in Cambridge. I know very few other linux users, none in the area. Burwell newsagent doesn't even stock linux magazines. Tsk. I was wondering what level you guys are all on....I'm a newcomer, and hope that I'm not going to waste anyone's time posting idiotic questions. I'll probably lurk for a bit and try and assess the level you are all on, - are there any others out there who are beginners? Jenny.

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De-Lurking - An Introduction
by Steven Fosdick 15 Dec '00

15 Dec '00

Hi all, I discovered the Anglian Linux users group shortly before the last meeting back in August but unfortunately other commitments prevented me from coming along. I've been lurking on the list since then and have been meaning to get round to writing a short introduction ever since - finally I have. I first became interested in computers when I saw a Sinclair ZX80 which the maths teacher at secondary school used to demonstrate some simple number theory. Shortly after that I received a ZX81 as a present and on that I learnt Sinclair BASIC and then Z80 machine code (without the benefit of an assembler). From there I moved on to a BBC Micro and learned its variety of BASIC, 6502 assembler, BCPL and Pascal. I now work for BT at Adastral Park, their advanced technology centre at Martlesham and it is there that I was first introduced to Unix when I was given a tape of HP-UX 6.2 and asked to "install it on one of our machines and see what it could do." At the time the PC was becoming popular and it was probably just before Windows 3 was released. I was immediately impressed with Unix (HP-UX) - it seemed to be a proper operating system with real virtual memory, powerful utilities, and a proper scripting language and, if you wanted a GUI, there was the X window system to go on top. I have continued to work with HP-UX and more latterly with Solaris too both as a SysAdmin and as a Developer using C, a little C++, Perl, Unix shell script and PL/SQL (Oracle), HTML and Javascript. I've also done a little development on the PC running Windows (and DOS even) using Visual Basic, Visual C++, C and Assembler. During the same time I witnessed the Internet take off in a big way, remembering when we persuaded one of the gurus on site to set us up with e-mail using uucp over a 19200 serial link back to their server which had 64k capacity to the rest of the net, getting a news feed and finding that just about everything got discussed there without censorship, the emergence of the WWW with early versions of mosaic, and up to the present where everyone can't wait to set up a web site and people at home have almost as much bandwidth each as we started with for 2500 people. I was first introduced to Linux by a contractor at Martlesham who had it running on his Laptop. I had already met some of the GNU tools and if the Linux kernel was to the same quality I knew that Linux as a system would be good. I was very impressed with Linux but sadly, although Linux was small and efficient, the hardware of the day was no match for the X window system and I went back to using the commercial unices on bigger hardware. Since then PC hardware has improved dramatically and more recently I found that Linux had become the focus of most Free software development for Unix like systems and that increasing numbers of people were running it at home. We had just received a talk at work from Richard Stallman of the Free Software Foundation (and author of emacs, and gcc IIRC) and he recommended the Debian distribution so I tried installing it. For someone who already knows about disk partitions etc. and has installed Unix before it presented no difficulty and I now have it running on my PC here at home where I've used it for capturing and editing video and audio as well as e-mail, surfing the net, writing minutes etc. Whilst Windows in it's various flavours still has much more software available than Linux, and that may never change, it nevertheless seems an exciting time for Linux as more generally useful software becomes available (rather than just developer tools) and makes it more useful to your average joe. So back to the user group, I hope that I will be able to help some of you out and at the same time receive help and broaden my knowledge in areas of Linux I have not yet explored. Unfortunately the IRC meets are at a time that I usually can't make but if I get the chance I'll drop in and if not I hope to see some of you at the next physical meeting. Steve Fosdick.

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Getting rid of a Linux boot loader
by Ashley T. Howes 14 Dec '00

14 Dec '00

Some time ago I installed the Storm Linux distribution (it's based on top of Debian). However during installation, it overwrote my master boot record with its own loader (brings up an vga graphic choice between linux and windows with Storm branding). Since then I have removed Storm Linux, formatted the hd, but the loader remains. I was wondering how to get rid of the boot loader, or in some way overwrite it with another? Any hints are appreciated. Ashley Dr. Ashley T. Howes PhD Web Developer Email: ashley(a)blueskyresearch.net Web: http://www.ashleyhowes.com "They think they've beaten us. We smile and say, welcome to the Next Level"

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["crazy" <chris@gimmel.com>] job feedback - help appreciated
by MJ Ray 13 Dec '00

13 Dec '00

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Re: [Alug] The end of an era...
by David Freeman 13 Dec '00

13 Dec '00

--- Laurie Brown <laurie(a)brownowl.com> wrote: > David Freeman wrote: <snip> > > > > D > > IDL seem to be a special case, and are emphatically not BT. They are, > and I'm not being big-headed here, cherry-picking the best. If you're > up > for it, and are a good IT professional with relevant Internet > experience, with good breadth (not just depth), then I'd be happy to > put > you forward. IDL are very actively encouraging personal referrals, > knowing, I suppose, that we won't risk putting knob-heads forward. > They > seem happier with people of a certain age (I'm 44), and are sceptical > of > whizz-kids. Both the people I know who work for IDL were headhunted from inside BT. and both are holding GURU status in alot of areas of IP/programming/unix etc... Unfortunatly like you said they take the mature end of things I'm not in the best situation (age 18) Maybe one day :o) Good luck Thanks D > Cheers, Laurie. > -- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Laurie Brown > laurie(a)brownowl.com > PGP key at http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > _______________________________________________ > alug, the Anglian Linux User Group list > Email: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > http://rabbit.stu.uea.ac.uk/cgi-bin/listinfo/alug > See the website for instructions on digest or unsub! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/

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Moving on
by Andrew Savory 12 Dec '00

12 Dec '00

Hi, As you may already know, as from tomorrow I will no longer be working for UEA. Whilst my account will work for a little while yet, can you please update your address books to use my new address - a.savory(a)btinternet.com Thanks, Andrew. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- A.Savory not at uea.ac.uk : All views are my own - who else would want them? -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [Alug] The end of an era...
by David Freeman 12 Dec '00

12 Dec '00

Not easily from outside. Depending on what you want submit your CV on bt.com and they will pick it up when they want you. A bit of a pain really. Not sure if this applies to IDL or not. Thanks D --- Joe Frost <joe_frost(a)omnis-software.com> wrote: > > I've taken a job as a senior technical consultant with a company > called > > Internet Designers Ltd., one of BT's BrightStar incubations. The > job is > > fantastic, and gives me the chance to carry on with my Linux work, > > alongside the experience built up after 27 years in the IT world. I > > start at Adastral Park, Martlesham on Monday 18 December. Gawd help > me! > > Stonking salary, share options, paid holidays (YES!), no managers, > > working in a technocracy, and so on, I simply couldn't refuse it... > Is there a way to keep an eye on jobs that are available at Adastral > Park? > > Joe > > > _______________________________________________ > alug, the Anglian Linux User Group list > Email: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > http://rabbit.stu.uea.ac.uk/cgi-bin/listinfo/alug > See the website for instructions on digest or unsub! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/

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Re: [Alug] The end of an era...
by David Freeman 12 Dec '00

12 Dec '00

Congratulations, Lucky sod. I have a few friends which work for IDL, it seams a good place to be and pays well. Good luck (you should be based about 100yrds from me!!) D --- Laurie Brown <laurie(a)brownowl.com> wrote: <snip> > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/

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Re: [Alug] IRC meeting reminders
by MJ Ray 12 Dec '00

12 Dec '00

Paul Tansom <paul(a)whaletales.co.uk> writes: > I can't comment on VA as I don't work for or with them, Smoothwall > is an independant project. As for *new* LUGs, the Smoothwall > project is not involved with any attempt to setup new LUGs, it is a > GPL dialup router/firewall project. Again, a separate issue if > anyone involved with Smoothwall is involved with LUGs new or old. > Personally I consider myself involved with UK LUGs - again a > separate issue to Smoothwall, although had that is how I became > aware of it at its inception! Would some of the Smoothwall project team like to visit the ALUG-IRC meeting a week on Monday to present it, answer a few questions, clear the air and show the project in a good light? So that would be 18 Dec 2000 at 2000 +0000, I think. (Yeah, I'm just itching to use the IRC question bot) -- MJR

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music - network - linux
by d.casal 11 Dec '00

11 Dec '00

Neil Newman wrote: >for what it's worth, I run redhat 6.2 on my wearable >(http://wearables.essex.ac.uk/) I'd be really interested in seeing specs for your wearable. I've been looking at MIThrill and a variant of Xybernaut's...how much did you have to scale RD 6.2 to fit? MJR wrote: >Read the hardware HOWTO and www.alsa-project.org to find out if your >sound card is well-supported. support for the soundblaster range is definitely documented, and debian lists seem to think that as long as it's only SB16 to SBLive! it should be ok, thanks for the pointer. >Debian's own installation howto isn't bad, but remember there >are lots of people around UEA to lend a hand if you hit problems. Read the how-to, made the first wave of disks, tried them both on the NT box and the ancient thinkpad I'm trying to turn into wearable goo, so far so good. Now though, I can't really afford the download time for debian full over 56k (30 more like) dialup. A.Savory mentioned that Brett might be able to help with passing a CD of it to us...would that be possible at all? Would anybody else have the time if Brett can't? Anyway, thank you both for your help, off to read more Debian lit. cheers, david casal

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Re: [Alug] Getting rid of a Linux boot loader
by cepi x 10 Dec '00

10 Dec '00

lilo -u /dev/hda or in my SCSI system sda or whatever letter u got......it worked for me a fiew times cheers CEPi --- Brett Parker <b.parker(a)uea.ac.uk> wrote: > On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 09:06:07AM +0000, Ashley T. > Howes wrote: > > Some time ago I installed the Storm Linux > distribution (it's based on top of > > Debian). However during installation, it > overwrote my master boot record > > with its own loader (brings up an vga graphic > choice between linux and > > windows with Storm branding). Since then I have > removed Storm Linux, > > formatted the hd, but the loader remains. > > > > I was wondering how to get rid of the boot loader, > or in some way overwrite > > it with another? > > > > right, if you've got DOS you can use: > fdisk /mbr > > which will kill the MBR. > > Not sure how you'd do it in nux, have never (yet) > needed to. > > Hope that helps, > > Brett > > > _______________________________________________ > alug, the Anglian Linux User Group list > Email: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > http://rabbit.stu.uea.ac.uk/cgi-bin/listinfo/alug > See the website for instructions on digest or unsub! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/

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Re: [Alug] 3com ethernet cards
by David Freeman 10 Dec '00

10 Dec '00

I Have always used 3Com Cards with Linux, In every box I have used one it has worked just fine straight away, it seams 3Com cards give me the least hassle of any that I have tried. HTH D --- "Ashley T. Howes" <ashley(a)blueskyresearch.net> wrote: > Final question for today :) > > I am planning to purchase a 3com ethernet card for my Linux box > (Athlon 650 > - PCI card required). I know some of you have bought 3com cards in > the past > and was wondering what the best option was for Linux support. > > I have tended to use NE2000 compatible cards in the past, but > recently heard > that they put more load on the CPU than they are supposed to. So I > thought > a change to 3com would be best. Any pros or cons I should be aware > of in > using 3com ethernet cards with Linux? > > Thanks again for your help. > > > Ashley > > > Dr. Ashley T. Howes PhD > Web Developer > Email: ashley(a)blueskyresearch.net Web: http://www.ashleyhowes.com > > "When he sees the dream he seeks, he will sleep" > > > > _______________________________________________ > alug, the Anglian Linux User Group list > Email: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > http://rabbit.stu.uea.ac.uk/cgi-bin/listinfo/alug > See the website for instructions on digest or unsub! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/

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Re: Get ready for the 12 Days of WHISKAS
by MJ Ray 10 Dec '00

10 Dec '00

12days(a)12daysofwhiskas.co.uk writes: > You have been sent this e-mail because your friend Terry Filby thinks you > may enjoy the 12 Days of WHISKAS Web site. Terry will cease to be anything approaching a friend if he keeps feeding email addresses of people he knows to spammers. [...] > To unsubscribe from the 12 days of WHISKAS click on > http://www.12daysofwhiskas.co.uk/unsubscribe.asp. What a surprise, that website is down. Complaint filed. -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] Getting rid of a Linux boot loader
by MJ Ray 10 Dec '00

10 Dec '00

Brett Parker <b.parker(a)uea.ac.uk> writes: > Not sure how you'd do it in nux, have never (yet) needed to. In general, lilo -u, I think, but I suspect that won't work in this case. -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] Options for mounting drives across ethernet
by MJ Ray 10 Dec '00

10 Dec '00

"Ashley T. Howes" <ashley(a)blueskyresearch.net> writes: > I was wondering about options to connect 2 Linux boxes together over > Ethernet, so I could mount the filesystem of one machine on another. I was > wondering what options are open to me to do this? I know of NFS. Are there > any systems which can cache the files pulled over the connection, so if the > same file is requested twice, it is only pulled over the network once? Do > the machines both need IP addresses to do this (either private or real), or > are there different way to address the boxes (using the ethernet mac address > for example)? I think most of the "next generation" of network file systems will do the sort of thing you describe, with various other performance caveats (eg it needs a sizeable cache). I'd suggest you start by looking at CODA, but when I last tried this around a year ago it wasn't yet usable. Any reason for not giving the machines IP addresses? It makes it a lot easier than using the ethernet cards raw. -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] ["Jo Denton" <jdenton@sybex.co.uk>] Fw: Sybex books
by MJ Ray 10 Dec '00

10 Dec '00

Andrew Savory <A.Savory(a)uea.ac.uk> writes: > Indeed. Where was the delay, and how can we unblock it for the future? Between my ears. Send a shotgun to... -- MJR

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3com ethernet cards
by Ashley T. Howes 10 Dec '00

10 Dec '00

Final question for today :) I am planning to purchase a 3com ethernet card for my Linux box (Athlon 650 - PCI card required). I know some of you have bought 3com cards in the past and was wondering what the best option was for Linux support. I have tended to use NE2000 compatible cards in the past, but recently heard that they put more load on the CPU than they are supposed to. So I thought a change to 3com would be best. Any pros or cons I should be aware of in using 3com ethernet cards with Linux? Thanks again for your help. Ashley Dr. Ashley T. Howes PhD Web Developer Email: ashley(a)blueskyresearch.net Web: http://www.ashleyhowes.com "When he sees the dream he seeks, he will sleep"

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Re: [Alug] music department - linux - etc.
by MJ Ray 08 Dec '00

08 Dec '00

"d.casal" <d.casal(a)ntlworld.com> writes: > What I think I need, from reading the debian site: > A Devel_comp setup with X11 (planning for sound) and Server_std. Will > promise to do my homework on install docs and sound setup, but need pointers > + - miracles to start this well... Read the hardware HOWTO and www.alsa-project.org to find out if your sound card is well-supported. Depending on whether you're using the standard kernel drivers or ALSA, the setup will vary a bit. Unless something changed, the ALSA package in debian is a little out of date. Debian's own installation howto isn't bad, but remember there are lots of people around UEA to lend a hand if you hit problems. Back everything up first, though. -- MJR

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music department - linux - etc.
by d.casal 08 Dec '00

08 Dec '00

Hey/ An e-mail exchange with andrew savory where I asked questions on linux/sound/cocoon+xml(xslt), went something like: (me)<< > -where do you think I should start as far as distributions? slackware seems > too hardcore, mandrake seems to give you 5000 apps I don't need...I'm > looking for a fast, stable, server system for sound and network tasks, > pretty much only...though X11 will be needed, since my unix skills aren't > that good at all. (a.savory)>> I'd go for Debian. It's a bit of a beast to install, but worth sticking with as maintenance is a dream. and... (me)<< > I really could use some advice on this, + any references to books, dists on > CD you may have lying around, etc. Hope I'm not being to cheeky there, but > Jonathan Impett (new guy at MUS) is plotting little nets of penguins talking > sound at each other, and it would be great to build a couple as test > boxes... (a.savory)>> Sounds cool - best bet is to email the alug list and ask someone to burn a CD for you. Brett is usually pretty happy to help in that respect. so anyway, I've read this list for a while (never active, anonymous coward like), earlier attempts with redhat 5.x etc thwarted by lack of unix know-how, though managed sound and a couple o' apps...back again to try (hopefully for good) and build a stable sound/networking box, then a first version of PC-104 or hacked laptop based wearable with a smaller, (maybe Work_std?) debian installation to run scaled down sound + net applications, which will form part of ARiADA (advanced research in aesthetics in the digital arts)... I really need all the help I can get, basically. What I think I need, from reading the debian site: A Devel_comp setup with X11 (planning for sound) and Server_std. Will promise to do my homework on install docs and sound setup, but need pointers + - miracles to start this well... people directly involved and/or about to be: j.impett(a)uea.ac.uk (music faculty) m.dixon(a)uea.ac.uk (researcher, ARiADA, SARA, music department) d.casal(a)uea.ac.uk (me, codemonkey helper for the above projects, XHTML, SMIL, etc) pseudoshark(a)netscapeonline.co.uk (edward.kelly(a)uea.ac.uk postgraduate researcher @ MUS) any help at all will be greatly appreciated. cheers, david casal

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Re: [Alug] IRC meeting reminders
by MJ Ray 08 Dec '00

08 Dec '00

Paul Tansom <paul(a)whaletales.co.uk> writes: > I can't comment on VA as I don't work for or with them, Smoothwall is > an independant project. As for *new* LUGs, the Smoothwall project is > not involved with any attempt to setup new LUGs, it is a GPL dialup > router/firewall project. Again, a separate issue if anyone involved > with Smoothwall is involved with LUGs new or old. Personally I > consider myself involved with UK LUGs - again a separate issue to > Smoothwall, although had that is how I became aware of it at its > inception! Your project manager appears to have a real problem with keeping his various roles apart. The Smoothwall website mentions *both* VA and a project to start a new LUG. While it makes it clear Smoothwall is not a VA project, it does no such thing about SUK-LUG. It may surprise you that some southern English LUGs are taking this combined with Richard not answering requests for material as offensive. OK, it shouldn't surprise you, but it may ;-) -- MJR

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[Denny <denny@concretecow.com>] UK LUGs useless?
by MJ Ray 06 Dec '00

06 Dec '00

What that LinuxUK/SmoothWall comment was about. Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 11:00:45 +0000 (GMT) From: Denny <denny(a)concretecow.com> To: MK LUG <mk(a)lists.lug.org.uk> If you read the recent announcement on www.linuxuk.co.uk about the release of SmoothWall, you will note that the author is less than impressed with the amount of help he has received from people in the UK LUGs. There are a few replies on there from people (myself included) who run LUGs, but I thought it might be good if a few LUG members wanted to comment also? Have a read and see what you think of his opinions... please try to respond intelligently, not in a confrontational manner. Regards, Denny # Denny De La Haye # Milton Keynes Linux User Group # denny(a)concretecow.com # info(a)mk.lug.org.uk # www.concretecow.com/denny # www.mk.lug.org.uk -- MJR

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