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[Various] Digested Articles
by MJ Ray 03 Nov '00

03 Nov '00

Ought to go get them on the patents, I feel. If anyone makes a particularly good response, please share it with the group so we can crib from it? Thanks, MJR Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 13:17:51 +0000 From: kevin.taylor(a)powerconv.alstom.com Subject: UK Stance on software patents ... Just in case you haven't heard (yet) - the UK Patent Office are asking for feedback/comments about what to do about software patents ... "We want to know what you think about this so that Government policy is evidence-based and relevant to business, commerce, and consumers - in other words to you. So, whether you are in the software industry, financial services, are a software user, a consumer, or are otherwise interested, we want to hear from you." http://www.patent.gov.uk/snews/notices/softcons.html (deadline is 15th December 2000) Kevin. Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 17:33:16 -0000 From: "Neil Dolan" <neil(a)livepublishing.co.uk> Subject: Linux Magazine UK Hi All I'd like to introduce you all to the launch of Linux Magazine UK after the success of Linux Magazine Germany and Linux User Germany over the last five years. I'm really after a level of interest in you receiving the magazine and even maybe establishing a relationship with group members for feedback on how you feel we can improve on the magazine to give you all the latest news and reviews. You can check out the magazine at www.linux-magazine.co.uk We'd love to hear from you, your views and opinions are extremely important to us. If any of you want a free copy of the magazine, just mail or phone me and we'll send one out to you happily. I look forward to your views Kindest Regards Neil Dolan (ndolan(a)linux-magazine.co.uk) Sales and Marketing Manager, Linux New Media UK Europa House, Adlington Park, Macclesfield SK10 4NP Telephone: 01625 855169 / Fax: 01625 855071 A division of Linux New Media AG, Munich, Germany

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[Alasdair G Kergon <agk@ukuug.org>] FW: LinuxUser Conference programme and issue 4 articles now available
by MJ Ray 03 Nov '00

03 Nov '00

Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 22:56:37 +0000 From: Alasdair G Kergon <agk(a)ukuug.org> The programme of the LinuxUser Conference on 5-6 December in London is now available at http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/conference/programme.html Speakers include Larry Augustin of VA Linux, Dirk Hohndel of SuSE, and author Craig Hunt. Compaq, IBM, Intel, SGI and Informix will also be represented, amongst others. The articles from Issue 4 of LinuxUser are also available for download from the archive at http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/articles/ - now sponsored by Compaq. ends Daniel James Web Editor LinuxUser ----- End forwarded message -----

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Anti-Wintel Campaign
by Mills 03 Nov '00

03 Nov '00

You may interested to know there is an computer movement call Reboot, that as one of it's campaign is an Anti-Wintel one. It's webpages are at: http://www.planet14.sonow.com/comp/reboot/

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Sys Admin (fwd)
by Andrew Savory 02 Nov '00

02 Nov '00

For info... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 15:53:36 -0600 From: marketing(a)cmp.com To: info(a)anglian.lug.org.uk Subject: Sys Admin Hi there! Sys Admin - the journal for UNIX systems administrators - has an exciting offer for your User Group! Sys Admin is the only magazine that can help you keep your system up and running 24/7/365! Sys Admin is the only magazine 100% devoted to UNIX. And Sys Admin is only the magazine written for UNIX systems administrators by UNIX systems administrators. If you are planning on having a seminar, conference, trade show booth or just a regular monthly meeting, Sys Admin would like to help make the event even better. Sys Admin will send T-shirts, mugs and/or magazines to any UNIX event. All you have to do is let us know when the event is! To take advantage of this offer simply reply to this e-mail. Please be sure to include the following information: 1) Contact name 2) Mailing address 3) Date of the event 4) Number of people expected at the event** **If you would like to receive a few sample copies of the magazine to review before we send out copies to the event, just include that request in your reply. We look forward to hearing from you! Bob Cucciniello Marketing Coordinator Sys Admin Magazine info(a)anglian.lug.org.uk

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Re: [Alug] Sys Admin (fwd)
by cepi x 02 Nov '00

02 Nov '00

yeah some free t-shirts would be nice....i'll pay the postage CEPi --- Aquarius <aquarius(a)kryogenix.org> wrote: > In article > <Pine.OSF.4.05.10011011655530.21132-100000(a)cpca7.uea.ac.uk> > you wrote: > > If you are planning on having a seminar, > conference, trade show booth or > > just a regular monthly meeting, Sys Admin would > like to help make the event even > > better. Sys Admin will send T-shirts, mugs and/or > magazines to any UNIX event. > > All you have to do is let us know when the event > is! > > Should we ask for some free stuff for the next > meeting? ;) > > Aq. > > -- > I can quite imagine Aq rising from the grave just to > tell off anyone who > dares talk about future Buffy at his funeral. ;) > -- Ce' > > > _______________________________________________ > alug, the Anglian Linux User Group list > Email: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > http://rabbit.stu.uea.ac.uk/cgi-bin/listinfo/alug > See the website for instructions on digest or unsub! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!?

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A web site should be coming soon :)
by Martyn Drake 31 Oct '00

31 Oct '00

Hi, I've eventually managed to persaude Zeus to work alongside Zope and Squishdot (turns out I forgot to compile the pcgi wrapper which of course, is vital in executing the Zope.cgi script - d'oh!!!), so I hope that Mark will be able to upload the existing website from freezope within the next day or so (barring any difficulties with my default install of Zope/Squishdot). I'm still awaiting to hear back from the lug.org.uk folks with getting DNS and MX records updated, but I hope this should go through by tomorrow at the latest so that everything is pointing in the right direction. Regards, Martyn

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Re: [Alug] Ports tree
by MJ Ray 31 Oct '00

31 Oct '00

Thom May <thom(a)planetarytramp.net> writes: > I do know some lunatic has created a perl script to turn > Debian's package management infrastructure into a ports tree, > but I imagine that would be somewhat unwieldy. Thanks Thom. Love you too :P > It's a damn cool idea though - I love the ports tree system, if only > keeping it up to date was a bit less hacky. Time for some perl magic > and the freshmeat DB? It might be a better idea to either extend fmports to use configure more intelligently or build something that only lists autoconf'd packages? MJR

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Meetings
by MJ Ray 31 Oct '00

31 Oct '00

Well, it would seem that the IRC meetings are still going on, despite my lack of attendance. Just to remind the newcomers who have subscribed since the website went live, they're on eu.openprojects.net in #alug every Monday at 2000 UK time. Feel free to drop in and get real-time help while we wait for the main meetings to back into their rhythm. (Any news, anyone?) MJR

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Ports tree
by MJ Ray 30 Oct '00

30 Oct '00

Does anyone know of a BSD-ish ports tree being developed for Linux? Either currently, or a project in the past? Is it worthwhile, or does a suitably structured source directory and some discipline make it irrelevant? MJR

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Re: Re[2]: [Alug] Web site not working
by MJ Ray 30 Oct '00

30 Oct '00

"John Woodard" <mail(a)johnwoodard.co.uk> writes: > MJ Ray wrote: > > Is Zeus open source? > Err don't think so somehow. :) Of course, no-one ever made money from developing open source commercial software... I always thought people paid Zeus for the wonderful support? Anyway, very OT now.

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Re: Re[2]: [Alug] Web site not working
by MJ Ray 30 Oct '00

30 Oct '00

Martyn Drake <martyn(a)alug.org.uk> writes: > 2) Until I can get Zope working with Zeus (pesky Zope!), I'll add a > redirect to the Alug site at FreeZope. Similiarly for the alug.org.uk > domain too. Is Zeus open source? If so, you should be able to edit both Zope and Zeus to see what the problem is with interfacing the two? Failing that, can we run Zope's ZServer straight out onto the net for now, caching it later if needed? Just ideas, MJR

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Re: [Alug] Web site not working
by MJ Ray 30 Oct '00

30 Oct '00

"John Woodard" <mail(a)johnwoodard.co.uk> writes: > Neither http://www.anglian.lug.org.uk/ nor www.alug.org.uk are working today > but the prototype site at http://freezope.nipltd.net/alug/ is! What gives? No idea. I suspect the number of diving trees we're seeing around here at the moment are giving people something else to think about. Hopefully someone will get to it before too much longer. Portables charged, everyone? :/ MJR

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Web site not working
by John Woodard 29 Oct '00

29 Oct '00

Neither http://www.anglian.lug.org.uk/ nor www.alug.org.uk are working today but the prototype site at http://freezope.nipltd.net/alug/ is! What gives? Cheers, BJ

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Re: [Alug] The future of *nix - opinions sought
by MJ Ray 28 Oct '00

28 Oct '00

David Cartwright <dsc(a)cube8.com> writes: > Are Microsoft really catching up? Are Sun and HP losing out to > Linux? Well, Linux is catching up with MS in terms of market share, while it seems that MS is catching up in terms of stability and "gee wow" UI frippery (from what I see on my neighbour's Win2k desktop). I'm still healthily doubtful about Windows being able to work on two architectures equally well, as we all remember what a success NT on Alpha has been, right? Sun and HP probably are losing the low-end to Linux. How far that goes depends what tactics Sun and HP adopt to block it (as this nearly always results in shooting oneself in the foot) or adopt it (which sometimes helps, sometimes hinders). > Will Linux be big on the desktop? Whatever happened to SGI? Well, as you know, where I'm working already has Unix on the desktop and a growing proportion of them are Linux now, because it's cheaper to roll out than Solaris (even though the Solaris OS has no purchase cost to us either) and there's more documentation and assistance out there for it. SGI appear to be confused. > Should we all forget commercial *nixes, or do the Suns and HPs of > this world still have plenty of marketplace alongside those of us > with Linux on our laptops? Wait and see what happens on SMP, clustering, etc. Some of the pure mathematicians are already a lot happier running their software on Linux rather than the Suns, as they can add more power more cheaply(sp?) to commodity x86 hardware. > Dave Cartwright > (yes, the ex-UEA/SYS one for those who remember) Applying for any upcoming UEA vacancies? ;-) MJR (yes, the current UEA/MTH one)

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[Alasdair Kergon <agk@ukuug.org>] Vinton Cerf - London, Fri 3rd Nov, 6.30pm (UKUUG/ISOC)
by MJ Ray 27 Oct '00

27 Oct '00

Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 20:39:48 +0100 From: Alasdair Kergon <agk(a)ukuug.org> Subject: [lugmaster] Vinton Cerf - London, Fri 3rd Nov, 6.30pm (UKUUG/ISOC) The UKUUG is pleased to announce another free evening meeting in the very successful 1999/2000 series that has included well-known speakers such as Richard Stallman, Eric Raymond, and recently James Gosling. Date: Friday 3rd November 2000 Times: 6.30 p.m. - 8.00 p.m. Speaker: Vinton G. Cerf Sr. Vice President for Internet Architecture and Technology MCI WorldCom Widely known as a "Father of the Internet," Cerf is the co-designer of the TCP/IP protocols and the architecture of the Internet. In December 1997, President Clinton presented the U.S. National Medal of Technology to Cerf and his partner, Robert E. Kahn, for founding and developing the Internet. Title: The 21st Century Internet Tidal Wave The talk opens with a brief bit of history and philosophy related to the Internet, then discusses the current status and scale of the Internet, where its services are available, and then goes on to explore applications of the network, especially the newer ones in addition to email, world wide web, and remote interaction. The talk finishes up with a look at expansion of the Internet beyond planet Earth. The talk will be followed by a question and answer session. Vinton Cerf has been hailed as the father of the Internet. He co-created TCP/IP 24 years ago and broke down policy barriers, a feat that turned the government-based network into a revolutionary commercial medium. Throughout his entire career, the 55-year-old Cerf has taken his love of science fiction, his knowledge of computer science and his sensitivity toward humanity and melded these qualities to vastly improve the way the entire world communicates and gathers knowledge. The Internet has become the fastest-growing communications network, touched by everyone from techies at NASA to schoolchildren in rural America. Venue: Cruciform Building Lecture Theatre 1 (Red Building - opposite UCL's main gate) University College London Gower Street London WC1 This event is open to all - free of charge; advance booking is not required. For further details (Vint Cerf's full biography and related URLs) please visit the UKUUG website: http://www.ukuug.org/events/cerf -- UKUUG Administration -------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.lug.org.uk http://www.linuxportal.co.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------

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The future of *nix - opinions sought
by David Cartwright 26 Oct '00

26 Oct '00

Hi all, I'm writing about what's next for *nix for the weekly trade paper Network News. The specific brief goes like: "We would be looking at what the Unix world is doing now that Microsoft and Intel are beginning to catch up with IA64 as well as any moves in the market - ie what flavours will survive, and what won't". Are Microsoft really catching up? Are Sun and HP losing out to Linux? Will Linux be big on the desktop? Whatever happened to SGI? Should we all forget commercial *nixes, or do the Suns and HPs of this world still have plenty of marketplace alongside those of us with Linux on our laptops? I'd be very interested in the group's assorted thoughts about the general future for *nix. Cheers, Dave Cartwright (yes, the ex-UEA/SYS one for those who remember)

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Re: [Alug] Printing oddities
by MJ Ray 25 Oct '00

25 Oct '00

Raphael Mankin <raph(a)panache.demon.co.uk> writes: > Some of the time servers I use are a bit flakey. It's not easy finding a good > set :-( dir.mcc.ac.uk is the most common one used by UK University sites, I believe. There is a list of time servers online somewhere (search google for ntp primary), but the nearest official one is Norway at the moment, I believe. MJR

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Printing oddities
by MJ Ray 25 Oct '00

25 Oct '00

Hi, I'm having trouble recently with the tops being chopped off of my printouts, using a usual lpr+ghostscript setup. From talking to a few people, this isn't a rare problem, but does anyone have a solution? Thanks, MJR

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Re: [Alug] Rooms and Website // was Re: Free Hardware Foundation
by MJ Ray 24 Oct '00

24 Oct '00

Martyn Drake <martyn(a)alug.org.uk> writes: > I'm arranging for a redirect for http://www.anglian.lug.org.uk to > temporarily point to the FreeZope hosting site, and then when everything > has been uploaded to my server, I will update DNS as necessary. FYI, it already frame-bounces there. Mail me off-list to co-ordinate the transfer? MJR

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Rooms and Website // was Re: Free Hardware Foundation
by MJ Ray 24 Oct '00

24 Oct '00

"Adrian F. Clark" <alien(a)essex.ac.uk> writes: > How about a meeting here at the University of Essex? I could > undoubtedly book a room 'n' things. Pick a date, any date... it's only John that'll get obstructed, as I've done nothing on the UEA date yet. If you two can pick two of the next three months, I'll get the other at UEA (Christmas permitting). As people seem to want talks to kick meetings off, what shall we have talks on? Finally, we now have a more up-to-date website, but it's sadly missing much of what ought to be there and some design work would probably not go amiss. The initial call for editors is on the site, but I could also do with setting some topics and having little graphics for them. Hackneyed, of course, but would help to break the page up a bit. Once we're sorted out for the next few meetings, I'll post the dates (and topics) to the site and ngs. Feel free to send them on to any interested parties. MJR

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Re: [Alug] Free Hardware Foundation
by MJ Ray 24 Oct '00

24 Oct '00

Mills <planet14(a)boyznow.net> writes: > If there is another meeting in Norwich/UEA I will probably be there. I think November/December may be at UEA. Not really got that far ahead yet, but I suspect Syleham may get a bit less fun to get to in the depths of winter? I'd love to go to a Cambridgeshire or Essex venue, if anyone there can host a meeting... > If there is a Free Software Foundation (FSF) why is there no Free > Hardware Foundation (FHF). FHF could have open source chip designs, > that could be loaded on to FPGAs. Image free modem, cpus etc.. You > could get the latest bug-fix, speed improvement, feature etc. There are several related projects underway, I think. None have reached completion (and given how much has to be put in to chip design, perhaps they won't for some time yet). Try looking at http://f-cpu.tux.org/ for example. MJR

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Re: [Alug] Printing oddities
by MJ Ray 24 Oct '00

24 Oct '00

Raphael Mankin <raph(a)panache.demon.co.uk> writes: > Sounds as if you ahge the wrong paper size configured Edited /usr/share/ghostscript/5.10/gs_init.ps to use a4 which seems to have cured it. I wonder what changed that then :/ Thanks... I didn't realise US Letter showed itself by chopping the top off (I'm more used to it chopping the bottom, as someone else said). MJR

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Free Hardware Foundation
by Mills 24 Oct '00

24 Oct '00

Hello ALUG, If there is another meeting in Norwich/UEA I will probably be there. If there is a Free Software Foundation (FSF) why is there no Free Hardware Foundation (FHF). FHF could have open source chip designs, that could be loaded on to FPGAs. Image free modem, cpus etc.. You could get the latest bug-fix, speed improvement, feature etc. Yours Tarquin Mills

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Re: Linux Group (fwd)
by Andrew Savory 23 Oct '00

23 Oct '00

For info. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 14:28:00 +0100 From: Kevin Revill <krevill(a)myopenapps.com> To: info(a)anglian.lug.org.uk Subject: Re: Linux Group Dear Linux group organiser We are a major UK applications Service Provider looking to recruit. Could you please pass on the message below to your members who may wish to take up positions with us. -- | Kevin Revill "Smart Applications - Tools for life" | available @ | Insight ASP LTD http://www.myopenapps.com +---------------Open Source Innovation-------------------- PROGRAMMERS MyOpenApps is an ASP from Sheffield England, with backing from a US Fortune 1000 company turning over $2 billion per annum, that is committed to making a lot of noise! We are expanding rapidly and are looking for people who want to work with exciting customers and partners who turn us on and stretch us mentally, from whom we can learn, and whom we enjoy associating. We want people who are innovative, not restricted by their own imagination, and who want to help build their own futures the way they see them. We want people who DON'T want: 1). to wear shirts and ties to work. (if they don't want to) 2). to engage in office politics. 3). to work in a strict authoritian environment which stifles their progress and hampers their creativity. BUT DO want: 1). to learn. 2). to pursue excellence in ALL areas. (after all, we DO have customers to die for!) 2). to be part of a team building the future. So if you want to push the boundaries of your career to new highs, and you want to excel in ALL areas then come down and meet us. Pre-Requisites: ---------------- Experience of : 1). HTML or DHTML 2). PHP or C 3). SQL. 4). Sun Solaris or Linux 5). A passion for Pizza and Diet Coke! Excellent Salary & Working Environment available NOW!!! Successful applicants will receive notification within 24 hours of interview. Send your C.V to careers(a)myopenapps.com or visit us at http://www.myopenapps.com/

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Re: [Alug] Are we alive?
by MJ Ray 22 Oct '00

22 Oct '00

Aquarius <aquarius(a)kryogenix.org> writes: > I've been quiet because I've been persuading the alug list to be a > newsgroup, which now works very nicely indeed :-) So that's why you were bouncing mail and confusing the hell out of me with the errors? TYVM ;-) > contact details at all, apart from webmaster(a)tree.uk.com, and mails to > there seemed to be ignored. People: do not buy stuff from them. I bought from tree once, waited double the stated delivery time and had the order arrive in pieces interspersed with much hassling. People, do not but stuff from them. They are the exact opposite of the good service I've had from the Emporium. MJR

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