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Re: [Alug] Last Alug's photos on-line.. + SuSE presentation
by MJ Ray 26 Jun '00

26 Jun '00

Speaking of Zeus... Adam, how definite are you for a Zeus demo at the August meeting? Then I could trail that in a K-A announcement on Monday.

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Last ALUG photos
by Chris Glover 25 Jun '00

25 Jun '00

Hi Peeps, What's happened to Martyn's link to the photo's, just tried looking at it, and it appears to be dead!!!! Oh well, back to transmitting the footie!!! Chris > Chris Glover > Engineer, Broadcast Engineering > BBC Resources > > Work: +44 (0)20 8576 0090 They will transfer call. > Mobile: +44 (0)7977 420828 > Fax: +44 (0)20 8576 4335 > Room 440, Design Building, BBC Television Centre, Wood Lane, London, > W12 7RJ, UK > > mailto:chris.glover@bbc.co.uk > http://www.bbcresources.com > > This e-mail, and any attachment, is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify me immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC, unless specifically stated.

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Re: [Alug] Last Alug's photos on-line.. + SuSE presentation
by MJ Ray 25 Jun '00

25 Jun '00

"Martyn Drake" <martyn.drake(a)bleeding-edge.net> writes: > http://www.bleeding-edge.net/alug/photos What no photo of the dead laptop? /me runs for the hills.

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Last Alug's photos on-line.. + SuSE presentation
by Martyn Drake 25 Jun '00

25 Jun '00

Hi, I've stuck the most recent photos of our last Alug meeting on my own, Red Hat server box running Zeus at:- http://www.bleeding-edge.net/alug/photos If things should go ahead for a meeting on the 19th July at UEA (at 2pm as a rough guide), Roger Whittaker has stated that it is very possible for him to do it at that date and time. If we need to move the date forward or backward, I'll contact Roger and let him know. Regards, Martyn

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Administrivia: List Outage
by MJ Ray 23 Jun '00

23 Jun '00

There is an electrical shutdown at UEA this weekend, so the Student Union mailserver will be offline for the duration. This happens once a year and should not actually be visible other than a slight delay on list traffic (but I'm just announcing it so that you know why it's slow). If it's like last year, services may be restored by Sunday lunchtime. MJR

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Re: [Alug] Next meeting info?
by MJ Ray 23 Jun '00

23 Jun '00

"Martyn Drake" <martyn.drake(a)bleeding-edge.net> writes: > Secondly, I'm going to get in contact with Roger Whittaker from SuSE to > arrange the presentation for our next meeting. I'll need to know the > date and time (and room number at the UEA) and I'll will definately go > and book it and get confirmation. Apologies for the delay on this... I've been having fun with bouncing and looping email for the last few days, but that should be fixed now (if you can see this email) and I'll try to sort this out today or Monday. MJR

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Next meeting info?
by Martyn Drake 23 Jun '00

23 Jun '00

Hi folks, Firstly, for those that witnessed the death of my laptop on the last meeting - it's now been replaced by PC World with a spanking new one and hope this one doesn't die on me (at least for the next three years until I buy a new laptop!) Secondly, I'm going to get in contact with Roger Whittaker from SuSE to arrange the presentation for our next meeting. I'll need to know the date and time (and room number at the UEA) and I'll will definately go and book it and get confirmation. Regards, Martyn

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How do I get rid of empty 15Mb Partition please?
by Terry Filby 22 Jun '00

22 Jun '00

Am getting on very well with Mandrake Lnx4Win - Linux on windows partition - but, on one of my previous abortive attempts to put Linux on a separate partition, I couldn't delete everything, and, despite going into Fdisk on Windows and in Linux I still have a 15Mb empty Partition. I have a 4.3 Gb HD with two Fat 16 partitions - 2047 on C:, 2063 on D: The empty partition is on D:, I have System Commander 2000 with graphic representation of the HD, and you can see the errant partition, but, if I try to amalgamate it in D:, it's got to be a Fat 32 drive, which I don't want. Any suggestions please? If I haven't made it clear enough, please e-mail with any queries. Everything works ok as is, but I don't like having 15Mb doing nothing that I can't delete! Terry

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Cambridge Linux user group
by Adam Bower 22 Jun '00

22 Jun '00

Hi all, I just found this in cam.misc thought you may be interested it will start around midday. Don't know where/what CB2 is though any ideas? I will try to find out later if poss. Hello everyone Richard Smith, of Cambridge Linux User Group, calling in. (our website is www.cam-lug.org.uk ) We have got a "Linux-fest" combined with "Installfest" this Sunday. The venue is CB2, where we will have the use of the basement (that's not as bad as it sounds - it is done-up for drama, poetry readings, recitals, etc!) This will be the second "Installfest" held by the group. The previous one last year was a great success, with a few people just turning-up and the CLUG group having a good chance to network computers together, do installs, get specialist software "up", etc. 'fraid we have all been busy doing our things, so here I am thinking "oh my god, got to put out some publicity fast...". So, if you want to bring along a computer and install Linux on it, that's the purpose of the "Installfest" part of the event. General advice: - definitely, make a backup of everything valuable on the computer - all you documents and so on. Sod's Law says if you don't make a backup, something is sure to go wrong! - evaluate the two main ways to put Linux on a system for the first time. One is to partition the hard disk, so that an unused portion becomes separate partition(s) for the Linux system. The other way is to install a separate hard disk dedicated to Linux. The latter is probably an attractive option if you already have a lot on you computer. Oh groan - I'm not even sure how much space a Linux distro needs these days - it's easiest to do a "full install", which takes up a couple of gig's, but a lean install will fit on just a few hundred meg's. I hope to be doing a quick presentation on the programming language "C". You may know that C is the "native language" of unix, and has been adopted for general use across quite a range of programming. It is used for major algorithm-writing now in mathematics (trust me - that's good!), science and engineering - which is where I met C. I will be outlining just the "special" parts of C - the ones which cause either a deep fear or euphoric liking for the language (there isn't much in between!). A week or two of BASIC at school is intended to be plenty enough grounding for this talk. Richard Smith -- Adam Bower Tel: +44 1223 525000 System Administrator Fax: +44 1223 525100 Zeus Technology Ltd http://www.zeus.com Newton House, Cambridge Business Park, Cambridge. CB4 OWZ. England

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Announce meetings
by John Woodard 17 Jun '00

17 Jun '00

Where on Usenet should we announce the next meeting apart from uk.comp.os.linux and pcplus.linux? There seem to be so many new Linux newsgroups out there I'm not too sure where is appropriate. Cheers, BJ

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Demo of Zeus things,
by Adam Bower 17 Jun '00

17 Jun '00

Hi all, Not at the meeting on Sunday but maybe at the next one would any of you like a demo of some of the Zeus software? I would probably be able to bring a fair amount of kit to do a load balancer demo, a webserver demo and also could demo our new product Zeus MHE (Mass hosting edition) which is designed for ISP's to use as a managment tool. If you think this is a good idea then let me know and I will see what I can work out. Thanks Adam -- Adam Bower Tel: +44 1223 525000 System Administrator Fax: +44 1223 525100 Zeus Technology Ltd http://www.zeus.com Newton House, Cambridge Business Park, Cambridge. CB4 OWZ. England

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Re: [Alug] Kernel Panic
by Simon Jude 16 Jun '00

16 Jun '00

-----Original Message----- From: Edward Kelly <Edward.Kelly(a)uea.ac.uk> To: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk <alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk> Date: 16 June 2000 08:51 Subject: [Alug] Kernel Panic >Hi there, > >You won't have heard much from me, but I have been following the mailing >list for a while and now I have a question. > >I have recently purchased Linux Mandrake 7.0 and am trying to install >Lnx4win on my E: partition. I tried to install Linux as a dual boot option >but it causes my Windows partition to becom i n c r e d i b l y slow and >unuseable. Since I am using the computer for my doctorate I cannot afford to >let this happen (I had to re-install everything after the last crash - >caused by Linux) but if there is a way of installing Linux on another >partition without it affecting the performance of my Windows system then I >would dearly love to know how. I think my Windows partition needs to know >that a UNIX drive is attatched to the system and live with it (which seems >like a tall order to me!) > Hi, If you want to prevent any problems with your windows system then your best bet is to buy another disk and install linux on that. I have an old 2gb disk with redhat on and I can boot it from my windows disk using loadlin. Using this you can then mount the windows disk if you need access to it. This prevents the risk of causing any problems on my windows disk which contains a lot of my research work. Simon School of Environmental Sciences, University of East Anglia, University Plain, Norwich, NR4 7TJ Telephone (01603) 593124 Fax (01603) 507719

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The Best Possible Linux Laptop Solution (Personal Use)
by Tatsuhiko Maekawa 16 Jun '00

16 Jun '00

Hullo I am thinking of getting a new laptop, now that everything becomes so INconvinient ever after I left the UK - and miss my lovely Siemens Nixdoft computer. (Tokyo sucks!) My question: which one's the best? Give your wishful thinking please. List of my considerations: - Main use is "web development" and "Palm Development" - Might need to use both "client" and "server" dually. Maybe enough to run JavaBean and Servlet (argh). - Require Windows - preferably better if Windows run in Linux (using VMWare, for example) - No DVD necessary - Size doesn't matter, and I really don't care. - Available companies: All Japanese companies you can come up with + Compaq + Dell + Gateway. ----- Tatsuhiko Maekawa [Network Integration Dept. System Div.] Computer Engineering and Consulting, Tokyo Japan mailto:t_maekawa@cec-ltd.co.jp

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You know when you begin to hate Solaris when..
by Martyn Drake 14 Jun '00

14 Jun '00

.. a script that you run called "bash" that sets up a few variables and runs a few programs ends up being entered on the command line as "bah!". Regards, Martyn

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ApacheConn 2000 Europe
by Dr. Ashley T. Howes PHD 13 Jun '00

13 Jun '00

This isn't strictly Linux, but I thought people might be interested in it. There is an Apache event planned for: Conference: October 23-25 2000 Exhibition: October 24-25 2000 Olympia Conference Centre London, UK It is going to cover a load of stuff (over 60 sessions) including: Security & Ecommerce Securing Apache on Unix and Windows Java, PHP, Perl, TCL, Python, XML, XSL Performance, load balancing and case studies Apache installation, compilation, configuration scripting languages and dynamic content (mod_perl, mod_php, mod_jserv, ASP) Tips for writing Apache modules More information is supposed to be available at http://www.apachecon.com/2000/EU/, but the piece of paper I have in front of me has more information on it currently. Oh well. Ashley Dr. Ashley T. Howes PhD Internet Developer Email: ashley_t_howes(a)dial.pipex.com "When all the animals of this world are gone, man will die of loneliness" [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Alug 8
by John Woodard 13 Jun '00

13 Jun '00

Who's coming, what they bringing. I'll definitely be there with 'Dellboy' my trusty laptop running Mandrake 7. Also 'Rodney' my main box which I can't seem to get ATA66 working on so some help there please. and at least one other machine running whatever distro I decide to bung on it this week if I have the time. Plenty of power leads and network stuff, 5 port hub etc., tea/coffee/bikies and anything else I can think of. Cheers, BJ

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Mandrake 7.1
by John Woodard 12 Jun '00

12 Jun '00

Anybody out there with bandwidth to spare (Brett?) who could download the iso images for Mandrake 7.1 cds 1 and 2 for me? 650meg and 350meg bit too much for a 56k modem me thinks. Cheers, BJ

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Next meeting and website
by Toby Jaffey 10 Jun '00

10 Jun '00

Can anyone tell me when the next meeting will be, now that I am back in Norwich. Also, is anyone actively maintaining the alug site? -- (o_ | Toby Jaffey : www.nott.ac.uk/~psystrj/ //\ | Real Programmers don't write in BASIC. Actually, no programmers V_/_ | write in BASIC. . .after age twelve.

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News from a Traitor!
by Terry Filby 10 Jun '00

10 Jun '00

I'm very much a devotee of Linux, particularly so since Andrew installed Debian on my computer at the Aylsham meet. My trouble is that I still don't really understand partitioning and lilo, so my attempts to install Linux myself have been doomed to failure. Until, that is, I got Mandrake 7.0 De Luxe, which must be the easiest distro now available. I started to try to install it in the usual way with the program automatically doing the partitioning - all went well, until, like all the other distro's I've tried before, it didn't boot, but, on looking more closely, I saw that the partion that it was on, originally 2063Mb was now 2071Mb! How did that happen! So I tried the easy way, installing it on the same drive as my Windows 98SE, in dos. And it works! Of course, it's much slower than a 'proper' Linux installation, but at least I now have KDE et al in a form I'm much more sure about! Terry

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Linux Tie
by Terry Filby 10 Jun '00

10 Jun '00

Saw the ad in the Joff Magazine and sent for the Linux Tie with lots of little Tux's on it, it came this morning. One to wear at the meets? Though, unfortunately I can't manage the next one, pity, because Sylham is nearer to Beccles than UEA. Terry

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What's just happened...
by MJ Ray 09 Jun '00

09 Jun '00

Hi, In case you're just wondering what happened, UUEAS (ie the stu.uea.ac.uk domain) just put its new mailserver in place today. It means that minimalist is no more, but the list is hosted on the new system. It also means: If you only got digest versions, you need to go to the web address that was given in the last post and reselect that (everyone's on the normal form to begin with, I'm afriad). If you've been trying and failing to get off of this list, it should now work ;-) We'd be sad to see you go, though. You can do some more generally clever configuration via the list interface. Archives are automatic. Things that look like list server commands or spam will be trapped. You have to post to the list from your registered address. You might have to reset your filters. The service is still beta <g> I think that's it. Here's hoping it works better than the old one! -- | MJR "Everything is planned, from -- crime to leisure time."

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Delusions?
by MJ Ray 06 Jun '00

06 Jun '00

I thought this might entertain some of you. From Issue 15 of Brave GNU World, <URL:http://www.gnu.org/brave-gnu-world/issue-15.en.html>: """This part was originally triggered by an advertisement of the German "Wirtschaftswoche" (translates to "Business Week") that spread big posters all over the city of Hamburg, Germany stating "Every Generation has its role models." The background picture shows stone busts of Julius Caesar, Napoleon Bonaparte and Bill Gates. If it weren't for Bill Gates I would have considered this ad to be a bad joke; but as this is the "Business Week" and Bill Gates is the richest man on earth, I must assume they are being serious. What does it say to declare these people role models? Julius Caesar and Napoleon Bonaparte were might-ridden conquerors and egomaniacs whose wars caused suffering for hundreds of thousands of people - even if their own population might have seen a slight advantage for a short amount of time. At some point both of them lost contact with reality and deemed themselves almighty. Caeser declared himself dictator and was murdered whereas Napoleon bit off more than he could chew and was exiled. Had there been more space on this picture I guess Attila and Ghengis Khan would also fit into this row pretty well. All of these persons are very much historical and they certainly changed the face of the world. But role models?""" -- | MJR "Everything is planned, from -- crime to leisure time." [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Samba help needed
by John Heaser 02 Jun '00

02 Jun '00

I need help (paid) with getting an HP Netserver to act as a shared file area between an HP Unix box and W98 PCs. The Netserver has been loaded with Mandrake from the recent PC Plus cover cd but then things came to a halt! The plan is to mount the Linux box as an NFS partition to the HPUX and use Samba to make it visible to the W98 PCs and perform the unix to windows ASCII end of line conversion. We are just trying to make it easy for PC users to get at data extract files that are created on the HPUX. The customer site is in Bedford and I would like to prototype the set up here before delivery by using another Linux box (I have Red Hat on a PC) to represent the HPUX. The work can be done at Diss or in Norwich. Commercial rates can be paid to someone proficient in Samba etc. -- Regards John Heaser [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Playing Music
by suffolkchess＠clara.co.uk 31 May '00

31 May '00

Thanks to everyone who suggested ideas for playing music now the problem is mp3's , I know my music is working but I am having problems with X11amp to play my mp3 i downloaded I know it's downloaded o.k I can add it in the list in X11amp but not listen to it. Are there any other good simple MP3 players individuals can recommend for Redhat 6.0 using Gnome or KDE Finally I have never managed to workout mounting my floppy drive. Thanks for offering time to help me Regards Scott Taylor [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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PPP: ping/dns OK but no FTP/telnet...
by Neil Sedger 28 May '00

28 May '00

RE this problem (hmm about an eon ago due to a broken modem...) I found the solution on the RHA support web forum. Go to /etc/ppp/options and add novj novjccomp in there. Works fine now. Currently using linuxconf, with a masq 'gateway' working. Next step is using wvdial (so it redials when busy) and then dial-on-demand. Nice. Neil MJ Ray wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 16, 2000 at 01:24:35AM +0100, Neil Sedger wrote: > > No, I don't think so, because I've never had a problem on Windoze... > > and I've never tried a different ISP on Linux... > > Have you? > > Yes, I have at least 7 other ISPs working fully with Linux. I have not had > Windoze on my home machine for well over two years now. > > > Is it RedHotAnt that give us this problem? > > Yes. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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