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Re: Obvious plug <g>
by James Green 06 Jul '99

06 Jul '99

Resent per error on list: On Sun, 4 Jul 1999, Mark J Ray wrote: > * List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > > On Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 03:54:05PM +0100, Andrew Savory wrote: > > > To place a GUI abstraction on this and expect it > > > to cope with everything is a wrong turn. > > No, it's not. > > Yes it is. No it's not ;-) > > If the underlying config files are ordered and structured sensibly, it > > should not be a problem. And quite frankly, a GUI interface is often far, > > far easier for novice users than hacking a text file. > > No, you're talking about a GUI interface (== A Good Thing), > while I was talking about a Control-Panel like GUI obstruction. Either way, GUIs, when implemented properly, work to effectively limit the damage a user can do be presenting him/her with a set of possible options, rather then risk them typing things in where they should not, or even walking around in the dark not knowing where to start. > > I don't see why you should have to understand the structure of the system. > > Not in general use, perhaps, but if you want to do something > more complicated than an iMac can do, prepare to learn. In a proper GUI, you should only need to enter the relevant section for what you want, or be asked. > > > for concealment of the complexity (in the quoted paragraph) is to argue > > > against Linux. > > You, sir, are talking nonsense. If to argue for concealment of complexity > > is to argue against Linux, why then are almost all the major distributions > > trying to do just that? Take RedHat, with their extensive GUI config tools > > (for better or for worse). Take Debian, with their extensive package > > management system. All attempts to make things less complex for the end > > user. Why? Because at the end of the day, complexity is not what the end > > user wants. Accessibility, flexibility and stability is what it's all > > about. > > You, madam, are talking nonsense. Complexity *is* what the > user wants, although only the brave admit it. What's the first > thing a sane user does when contemplating the install? Looks > to make sure that most (all?) of their hardware is supported. 1. Define "sane" in terms of a computer user. 2. I don't remember the last time someone asked me if their hardware was compatible with Windows or any other OS for that matter, they assume so. > If it doesn't support their super-widget-drive 2935, they don't > install. Flexibility breeds complexity. Accessibility > provides a natural brake on it. Correct. > What is done by most distributions is not concealment of the > underlying system, for it is still accessible when you need to > do something not forseen by the config tool admins. No-one can > really say that using one of the current generation of > distribution-supplied configuration tools really helps you to > make a start on manual configuration. Is this, a family of > completely dissimilar distribution-, release- and even > system-specific fundamental tools where you want to go? Well, > that's your choice. As soon as it moves to try concealment (as > RedHat's *cfg tools look as if they will soon try), you make a > lot of enemies, including me. > > What is needed, now that we're starting to get the FHS kicking > in and a regular structure for configuration files under /etc, > is a tool that uses this structure and puts nicer interfaces on > the parts it knows about, while still allowing you to hack it > directly if needed. It could even adapt to config file formats > it doesn't understand, as far as possible. Quite. It needs to have properties of AI in that sense. > Now please make some attempt at thinking my points through > before responding, instead of just flaming at random prejudices > and misunderstandings, else the list's Signal-Noise ratio is > doomed. Point is, the average user, ime, doesn't want to know about hardware or configuation tools. They just want it at the level of abstration they can understand, and for it to work. When this isn't available, they call in the spotty kid next door. Windows, imo, has done a good attempt at producing configuration tools for particular jobs. Unfortunately, when it doesn't work, it general has dire consequences, and since the registry isn't a dream to administer, the average user is doomed to reinstallion and that, in the words of Microsoft themselves, increases the "TCO". James. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Obvious plug <g>
by James Green 04 Jul '99

04 Jul '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Hey all, I forgot I even did this: "Looking forward to the New Dawn" http://linuxtoday.com/stories/7362.html Heh, it actually got published :0) Whaddaya think? James Green. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG] I have sound!
by John Woodard 02 Jul '99

02 Jul '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: Martyn B. Drake <martyn.drake(a)anglian.lug.org.uk> To: <alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 1999 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [ALUG] I have sound! /snip > Going to get my new SoundBlaster PCI128 to work tonight. It's interesting > to note that these things are not Creative cards, but rather Ensoniq. All > in all, I'm a little disapointed with it in a Windows environment. Is the > Live card any good? /snip All I can say is that it is the nearest thing to hifi I have ever come across in a computer. The 4 speaker 'Environmental Audio' is fun (not really bothered if they ever get that bit working in Linux) but just the front signals injected into a half decent hifi system is nothing short of stunning! Regards, BJ [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Kernel install?
by John Woodard 02 Jul '99

02 Jul '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Sorry about all these newbie questions, I really ought to post them on uk.comp.os.linux, but it seems a little more personal asking you good people. After a few re-installs of RH6 after installing a new kernel I thought I'd ask where I was going wrong. This is what I've done so far: cd /usr/src<ENTER> "obvious what this does" mv linux linux.old<ENTER> "rename my old linux directory which is actually a symbolic link to a directory named linux-2.2.5-15?" tar xzf *path*/linux-2.2.10.tar.gz<ENTER> "recursively untar and ungzip a directory named linux under the current directory" cd linux<ENTER> "obvious" make config *or menuconfig/xconfig*<ENTER> "using the howto for guidance - sensible" make dep<ENTER> "dependancies?? - don't really understand this" make clean<ENTER> "cleans up the config file? - not sure" make bzImage<ENTER> "compiles a compressed binary image - I think?" make modules<ENTER> "not sure got this of a newsgroup" make modules_install<ENTER> "as above could be dangerous?" "this is where I start to get confused!" cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/vmlinuz<ENTER> "copy my new compressed binary image to the path in my lilo.conf which is another symbolic link to an image file named vmlinuz-2.2.5-15 don't know if this is significant?" lilo -v<ENTER> "run lilo in verbose mode to load it?" reboot *or shutdown -r now*<ENTER> "obvious" I now get errors on boot up telling me that bootmap?? or something similar points to the wrong kernal version and some other errors which I can't remember (not a great deal of help that I know :-} ) lots of red text though! My screen scrolls too quickly to pick up what these errors are is there a log file somewhere? Can any of you good folks confirm that my understanding of what is going on is either correct (unlikely), total crap (more likely) or go post this to alt.linux.newbies-come-here-to-be-ridiculed (highly likely). :-) Regards, BJ [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Scanners in Linux
by John Woodard 01 Jul '99

01 Jul '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Has anybody had any experience with flatbed scanners in Linux My cheapo parallel port jobbie won't work in a real OS so I'm going to replace it with a nice shiny new one. I'm thinking about a scsi model, because I think I read somewhere that they are more likely to work in Linux. Any ideas on which scanners work in Linux or which to avoid and is there a Linux equivalent to TWAIN? I'm only looking for a low end A4 device for general photos and OCR stuff, not too expensive around 150.00 is my limit. Regards, BJ [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Hmmm...
by Brett Parker 22 Jun '99

22 Jun '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk I think that there should be a change to the ol' About ALUG page...maybe the socialising bit should be emphasized ;-) [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Pics from yesterdays meet
by Gareth Watts 21 Jun '99

21 Jun '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk A few shots are up at http://omnipotent.net/alug2/ Some of the pics are somewhat less than perfect due to my tinkering with the settings (the camera is < 1 week old so I need the practise) ;-) My thanks to the organisers for an interesting afternoon! Gareth [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Next meeting..
by Martyn B. Drake 21 Jun '99

21 Jun '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk All in all, a good afternoon was had yesterday - particularly liked that MP3 player :) Anyway, suppose we ought to start discussing a venue for the third meeting at some stage - anybody have any suggestions? M. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG] ALUG2
by MJ Ray 19 Jun '99

19 Jun '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk James Green <jg(a)cyberstorm.demon.co.uk> writes: > With a bit of luck I'll be getting my dad to drop me off with my kit, but > seeing as I'm only a Norwich resident, not student of UEA, I have no idea > whereabouts this Union House place is. > > We'll prolly be coming from the Fiveways roundabout, down past Earlham > School, left into the campus. From memory there's barriers and a car park. > Any further directions please? Right... I'm anticipating being on campus quite early, so I'll try to tell the people on the barriers about the meeting, or you should just be able to drive straight into the main car park (barrier isn't often down on a Sunday). Sometime around 1, I'll attach penguins to the lamposts on the way out of the car park to direct you towards Union House and to the meeting room. So just follow the penguins. Or look at the directions on the ALUG site. -- MJR Stats Postgrad mailto:h089@mth.uea.ac.uk http://stats.mth.uea.ac.uk/ UEA Norwich UK mailto:markj@stu.uea.ac.uk http://www.stu.uea.ac.uk/ Improves CPU/video memory bandwidth by anything from 20 to 50%. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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ALUG2
by Andrew Savory 19 Jun '99

19 Jun '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Hi all, I updated the ALUG website last night to reflect recent changes and to include details of ALUG2. In particular, see http://www.anglian.lug.org.uk/meetings.html for information on getting here, etc. As before, try and let us know if you're definitely coming, but even if you don't, please feel free to drop by on the day! Andrew. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- A.Savory at uea.ac.uk All views are my own - who else would want them? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Tomorrow!
by Daniel Smith 19 Jun '99

19 Jun '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Hello All I will be going to the meeting tomorrow and I am able to offer a lift to anybody who needs it. I will leaving from Braintree and then going to Sudbury to Pick Malcolm up. If anybody else on the way requires a lift then let me know. I've got room for two more. Regards -- Daniel Smith [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Further Help
by Daniel Smith 16 Jun '99

16 Jun '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Hello All again Thanks for the previous help, worked a treat. Sorry about the Dual, Duel or even Jewel mistake. Second request for help now. You may all recall I posted a message a few weeks ago about setting up a mail server for my company. If I bring a 'box' and modem along to the meeting on Sunday will anybody be able to spare the time to help me set one up? I will warn you all now, I don't really have a clue what I'm doing. Regards -- Daniel Smith [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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HELP!
by Daniel Smith 16 Jun '99

16 Jun '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Hello! I know that this is not the place to ask but HELP! With the impending meeting I thought I'd have a little play with Red Hat. OK I've got to confess I haven't 'played' with Linux for over two months now! I've been using, dare I say it Micro$haft Windoze 95. I had installed Red Hat from the PC Plus cover disk onto a third hard drive but some how I've lost the duel boot options, can anybody tell me how to create a boot floppy so I can get Linux back? Thanks! -- Daniel Smith [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG] HELP!
by Thomas May 15 Jun '99

15 Jun '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk On Tue, 15 Jun 1999 22:52:21 Mark J Ray wrote: > * List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > > Daniel Smith <daniel(a)capricorn1.demon.co.uk> writes: > > > I had installed Red Hat from the PC Plus cover disk onto a third hard > > drive but some how I've lost the duel boot options, can anybody tell me > > how to create a boot floppy so I can get Linux back? > > Somewhere on the CD, there should be some .IMG files, RAWRITE.EXE and > some instructions, which should tell you how to make a "rescue disk" > and use it. Been a while since I did that, so I'll stop there. > Better yet, the Red Hat cd is bootable anyway, if you've got a newish PC :) Thom [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG] HELP!
by Mark J Ray 15 Jun '99

15 Jun '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Daniel Smith <daniel(a)capricorn1.demon.co.uk> writes: > I had installed Red Hat from the PC Plus cover disk onto a third hard > drive but some how I've lost the duel boot options, can anybody tell me > how to create a boot floppy so I can get Linux back? Somewhere on the CD, there should be some .IMG files, RAWRITE.EXE and some instructions, which should tell you how to make a "rescue disk" and use it. Been a while since I did that, so I'll stop there. -- MJR Stats Postgrad mailto:h089@mth.uea.ac.uk http://stats.mth.uea.ac.uk/ UEA Norwich UK mailto:markj@stu.uea.ac.uk http://www.stu.uea.ac.uk/ Beware the man with the early Sony Handicam... [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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ALUG 2 - another possible event
by Andrew Savory 15 Jun '99

15 Jun '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Here's a thought, of the kind that only occurs having spent an evening in the pub. On a similar vein to the editor paintball wars they have in the States, I'd like to propose an "email client Pool tournament". So far, we have Pine, Balsa, Gnus and Mutt. Whaddayareckon? Andrew. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- A.Savory at uea.ac.uk All views are my own - who else would want them? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG] (no subject)
by Mark J Ray 14 Jun '99

14 Jun '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk "John Woodard" <jwoodard(a)tesco.net> writes: > Things like compiling the kernel, installing .rpms and getting my poxy sound > card (SBLive value) to work on a RH6.0 distro would be great! I'm sure that we can do a kernel compile somewhere. Installing RPMs would need a RedHat box, so maybe we can show you that on your machine when fixing your soundcard (if it's possible). > Anybody needing a lift from the Diss area mail me. Likewise, anyone between Norwich and King's Lynn can contact me for a lift. -- MJR Stats Postgrad mailto:h089@mth.uea.ac.uk http://stats.mth.uea.ac.uk/ UEA Norwich UK mailto:markj@stu.uea.ac.uk http://www.stu.uea.ac.uk/ Is it Friday today? [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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(no subject)
by John Woodard 13 Jun '99

13 Jun '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Excuse the newbie status but would it be possible to go through some fairly basic stuff on Sunday as well as all those really neat demos like last time. Things like compiling the kernel, installing .rpms and getting my poxy sound card (SBLive value) to work on a RH6.0 distro would be great! Anybody needing a lift from the Diss area mail me. Looking forward to it. Cheers, BJ [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Network connectivity
by Martyn B. Drake 12 Jun '99

12 Jun '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk With regards to hubs and so on - what's going to be available for us in the way of networking on Sunday? Regards, Martyn [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG] Network connectivity
by Mark J Ray 11 Jun '99

11 Jun '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Paul.Russell(a)uea.ac.uk writes: > Failing that, we'll have to make do with sneakernet :-/ Well, I've got an extremely long bit of serial cable... I may even be able to *ahem* "borrow" some patch cables. -- MJR Stats Postgrad mailto:h089@mth.uea.ac.uk http://stats.mth.uea.ac.uk/ UEA Norwich UK mailto:markj@stu.uea.ac.uk http://www.stu.uea.ac.uk/ What's On? http://www.stu.uea.ac.uk/cgi-bin/entsdb?Q [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG] [ALUG-announce] ALUG2, Norwich, 20 June 1999
by Mark J Ray 11 Jun '99

11 Jun '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Raphael Mankin <raph(a)panache.demon.co.uk> writes: > For the sake of definiteness, would you care to put a date on this? Do you mean > 20 or 27 June? See subject line. 20 June. -- MJR Stats Postgrad mailto:h089@mth.uea.ac.uk http://stats.mth.uea.ac.uk/ UEA Norwich UK mailto:markj@stu.uea.ac.uk http://www.stu.uea.ac.uk/ What's On? http://www.stu.uea.ac.uk/cgi-bin/entsdb?Q [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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[ALUG-announce] ALUG2, Norwich, 20 June 1999
by Mark J Ray 11 Jun '99

11 Jun '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk * List: alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Hi, A room has been booked in Union House at UEA for ALUG2 a week on Sunday, from 1400 until 1900. If you can now tell me what we're going to do, I'll publicise it on the newsgroups. We may be able to set up a IP-masq network connection for the meeting, too. -- MJR Stats Postgrad mailto:h089@mth.uea.ac.uk http://stats.mth.uea.ac.uk/ UEA Norwich UK mailto:markj@stu.uea.ac.uk http://www.stu.uea.ac.uk/ require("witty_comment"); [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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distributed.net
by Paul.Russell＠uea.ac.uk 11 Jun '99

11 Jun '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk So, you know all that spare processor time you've got? Feel like donating it to a (very) worthy cause? I've set up a team for ALUG on distributed.net. If you've not come across them before, distributed.net is a distributed computer on a quite insane scale. They currently have somewhere in the region of 175,000 members working together on somewhere in the region on 220,000 computers ranging from 386s up to supercomputers. As the distributed.net tagline says: The largest computer on earth. It's all pretty impressive stuff - distributed.net is currently working on breaking an RC5 code (basically to prove that it's possible to do it in a sensible amount of time) If you'd care to join distributed.net and the ALUG team, then we'll see just how much useful work our computers can get done while we're not using them. Take a look at http://www.distributed.net/ for more details. See you next sunday! Paul Russell [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG] Lift share?
by Mark J Ray 06 Jun '99

06 Jun '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Andrew Savory <A.Savory(a)uea.ac.uk> writes: > I've been suspiciously quiet on the whole matter cos frankly I'm not sure > myself! We were thinking some time fairly soon at UEA, but I'm not sure of > the exact location - possibly in the Student Union building here, but I > can't say for definite till I speak with Mark. Hi, I'm back ;) We can certainly hold a meeting in one of the meetings rooms in Union House, or possibly the Hive bar if it's not in use, but I need a suggestion of a time before I can see what we've got. Next weekend or the one after? Also, UH isn't blessed with very good net connections in/near the possible meeting rooms, so we'll be confined to localnet, I suspect. Shame. -- MJR Stats Postgrad mailto:h089@mth.uea.ac.uk http://stats.mth.uea.ac.uk/ UEA Norwich UK mailto:markj@stu.uea.ac.uk http://www.stu.uea.ac.uk/ What's On? http://www.stu.uea.ac.uk/cgi-bin/entsdb?Q [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG] Lift share?
by Andrew.Chandler＠ft.com 04 Jun '99

04 Jun '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk ..and what topics? Emmm... chocolate... Andi "Martyn B. Drake" <martyn.drake(a)anglian.lug.org.uk> on 06/03/99 03:30:36 PM To: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk cc: (bcc: Andrew Chandler/PSD/LONDON/FTI) Subject: Re: [ALUG] Lift share? * List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk At 03:20 PM 6/3/99 +0100, you wrote: >erm. where is the next meeting... . and when? Regards, Martyn [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] **************************************************************************************** *Please visit the web site of the Financial Times at http://www.ft.com * * * *This E-Mail is intended for the use of the addressee only and may contain confidential* *information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any * *use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. * *If you receive this transmission in error, please notify us immediately then * *delete this E-Mail. * * * *postmaster(a)ft.com * **************************************************************************************** [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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