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PINE // was Re: RedHat 6.0 problems
by Mark J Ray 24 May '99

24 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk M(enu) S(etup) C(onfig), then look for "customized-hdrs" and A(dd) values to it. To see the xtra headers in the message composition screen, press ^R on the header (for Rich header). Is that what you mean? Of course, you should be using better mail clients than PINE these days. Of course, there is always a better mail client no matter what you use ;) -- MJR Stats Postgrad mailto:h089@mth.uea.ac.uk http://stats.mth.uea.ac.uk/ UEA Norwich UK mailto:markj@stu.uea.ac.uk http://www.stu.uea.ac.uk/ <mgb> safetypin: the "off" button works wonders. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG] RedHat 6.0 problems
by Andrew.Chandler＠ft.com 24 May '99

24 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Bring back glint ... all is forgiven!! Mark J Ray <h089(a)mth.uea.ac.uk> on 23/05/99 21:55:15 To: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk cc: (bcc: Andrew Chandler/PSD/LONDON/FTI) Subject: Re: [ALUG] RedHat 6.0 problems * List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Neill Newman <njnewm(a)essex.ac.uk> writes: > the gnorpm proggie (the gnome rpm manager) does exactly the same, > browses rpm databases on the net, downloads and installs/upgrades... > which is kinda neat ;) Oh no, not unless rpm has become a lot less chaotic and they've added a lot of clever stuff to gnorpm. When he says apt-get goes and installs what you tell it, he means and all the right versions of the stuff it depends upon too. Very nice if you're used to playing "hunt the rpm". -- MJR Stats Postgrad mailto:h089@mth.uea.ac.uk http://stats.mth.uea.ac.uk/ UEA Norwich UK mailto:markj@stu.uea.ac.uk http://www.stu.uea.ac.uk/ <mgb> safetypin: the "off" button works wonders. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] **************************************************************************************** *Please visit the web site of the Financial Times at http://www.ft.com * * * *This E-Mail is intended for the use of the addressee only and may contain confidential* *information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any * *use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. * *If you receive this transmission in error, please notify us immediately then * *delete this E-Mail. * * * *postmaster(a)ft.com * **************************************************************************************** [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG] RedHat 6.0 problems
by Andrew.Chandler＠ft.com 24 May '99

24 May '99

Bring back glint ... all is forgiven!! Mark J Ray <h089(a)mth.uea.ac.uk> on 23/05/99 21:55:15 To: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk cc: (bcc: Andrew Chandler/PSD/LONDON/FTI) Subject: Re: [ALUG] RedHat 6.0 problems * List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Neill Newman <njnewm(a)essex.ac.uk> writes: > the gnorpm proggie (the gnome rpm manager) does exactly the same, > browses rpm databases on the net, downloads and installs/upgrades... > which is kinda neat ;) Oh no, not unless rpm has become a lot less chaotic and they've added a lot of clever stuff to gnorpm. When he says apt-get goes and installs what you tell it, he means and all the right versions of the stuff it depends upon too. Very nice if you're used to playing "hunt the rpm". -- MJR Stats Postgrad mailto:h089@mth.uea.ac.uk http://stats.mth.uea.ac.uk/ UEA Norwich UK mailto:markj@stu.uea.ac.uk http://www.stu.uea.ac.uk/ <mgb> safetypin: the "off" button works wonders. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] **************************************************************************************** *Please visit the web site of the Financial Times at http://www.ft.com * * * *This E-Mail is intended for the use of the addressee only and may contain confidential* *information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any * *use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. * *If you receive this transmission in error, please notify us immediately then * *delete this E-Mail. * * * *postmaster(a)ft.com * ****************************************************************************************

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Re: [ALUG] RedHat 6.0 problems
by Andrew.Chandler＠ft.com 24 May '99

24 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk I have a machine which has been running RedHat Bluesky aka preRH6.0/Rawhide 1.0 for a while now with no major problems. True Enlightenment is a bit(!) flakey, but hey it's version 0.15 beta. I'm running SuSE 6.0/6.1 everywhere else now. No problems at all, other than that all .rpm based software seems to be built for RedHat machines. Andi James Green <jg(a)cyberstorm.demon.co.uk> on 23/05/99 22:28:15 To: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk cc: (bcc: Andrew Chandler/PSD/LONDON/FTI) Subject: Re: [ALUG] RedHat 6.0 problems * List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk On Sun, 23 May 1999, Martyn B. Drake wrote: > * List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > > I'm thinking of doing that myself .. RedHat 6.0 has generally been okay, but > it's still rough round the edges. Does anybody actually test this stuff > before it's released? RH5.9 was the 6.0 test-release wasn't it? Now, got a question... How do you insert custom mail headers (for a faq) in pine? James Green [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] **************************************************************************************** *Please visit the web site of the Financial Times at http://www.ft.com * * * *This E-Mail is intended for the use of the addressee only and may contain confidential* *information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any * *use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. * *If you receive this transmission in error, please notify us immediately then * *delete this E-Mail. * * * *postmaster(a)ft.com * **************************************************************************************** [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG] RedHat 6.0 problems
by Martyn B. Drake 23 May '99

23 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk I'm thinking of doing that myself .. RedHat 6.0 has generally been okay, but it's still rough round the edges. Does anybody actually test this stuff before it's released? Let's hope we've got the latest Debian released ISO laying around at work .. think I'll bag myself a copy of that if it is :) Regards, Martyn ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Russell <Paul.Russell(a)uea.ac.uk> To: <alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk> Sent: Sunday, May 23, 1999 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [ALUG] RedHat 6.0 problems * List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk >> A large number of reports of stuff wrong with Gnome/E in the RH6 RPMS - >> this is understandable, Gnome at least has come a long way since the >> RH6 build; > >yeah Gnome/E is a little flakey as yet, but hopefully it will mature >with age.. E certain looks good even if it does crash every few seconds >!!.. If you can bear it, I'd strongly recomend ditching RH6 and moving up to Debian. I'm now happily running Enlightenment DR15.5 and Gnome, I've had very few problems (and most of those were caused by me erm 'playing') I have to say, it's 'quite pretty' and it's getting quite close to the point where you could put it on a desktop machine without too many problems. All we need now is a few shit hot productivity apps and we're away. I'm waiting for gnumeric myself... One of the *really* nice things about debian is it's package management. I've not had to compile a single program since installing deb. You want enlightenment? no problem: apt-get install enlightenment. You want gnome? apt-get install gnome-core gnome-session etc... It'll download the packages if you've not got them locally and install them. nice. If you've got a fast internet connection (as in ISDN router or faster) then you can even install it over the network, two boot disks and you're away. Paul [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Linux '99
by James Green 23 May '99

23 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk OK, Linux '99 from UKUUG made it to slashdot. I take it this has been discussed in ucol, I only just got leafnode rpm down. Can we perhaps arrange travel arrangements together? I'd certainly like to go... James Green [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG] RedHat 6.0 problems
by Mark J Ray 23 May '99

23 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Neill Newman <njnewm(a)essex.ac.uk> writes: > the gnorpm proggie (the gnome rpm manager) does exactly the same, > browses rpm databases on the net, downloads and installs/upgrades... > which is kinda neat ;) Oh no, not unless rpm has become a lot less chaotic and they've added a lot of clever stuff to gnorpm. When he says apt-get goes and installs what you tell it, he means and all the right versions of the stuff it depends upon too. Very nice if you're used to playing "hunt the rpm". -- MJR Stats Postgrad mailto:h089@mth.uea.ac.uk http://stats.mth.uea.ac.uk/ UEA Norwich UK mailto:markj@stu.uea.ac.uk http://www.stu.uea.ac.uk/ <mgb> safetypin: the "off" button works wonders. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG] RedHat 6.0 problems
by Neill Newman 23 May '99

23 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Paul Russell wrote: > > * List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > > > One of the *really* nice things about debian is it's package management. > I've not had to compile a single program since installing deb. You want > enlightenment? no problem: apt-get install enlightenment. You want gnome? > apt-get install gnome-core gnome-session etc... It'll download the packages > if you've not got them locally and install them. nice. If you've got a fast > internet connection (as in ISDN router or faster) then you can even install > it over the network, two boot disks and you're away. the gnorpm proggie (the gnome rpm manager) does exactly the same, browses rpm databases on the net, downloads and installs/upgrades... which is kinda neat ;) Sz > > Paul > > [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] > [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] > [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] > [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Neill Newman Tel: Mobile 07970 673722 Department of Electronics Systems Engineering Work 01206 873708 University of Essex Fax: Work 01206 872900 http://wearables.essex.ac.uk/index.html email: njnewm(a)essex.ac.uk ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG] RedHat 6.0 problems
by Paul Russell 23 May '99

23 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk >> A large number of reports of stuff wrong with Gnome/E in the RH6 RPMS - >> this is understandable, Gnome at least has come a long way since the >> RH6 build; > >yeah Gnome/E is a little flakey as yet, but hopefully it will mature >with age.. E certain looks good even if it does crash every few seconds >!!.. If you can bear it, I'd strongly recomend ditching RH6 and moving up to Debian. I'm now happily running Enlightenment DR15.5 and Gnome, I've had very few problems (and most of those were caused by me erm 'playing') I have to say, it's 'quite pretty' and it's getting quite close to the point where you could put it on a desktop machine without too many problems. All we need now is a few shit hot productivity apps and we're away. I'm waiting for gnumeric myself... One of the *really* nice things about debian is it's package management. I've not had to compile a single program since installing deb. You want enlightenment? no problem: apt-get install enlightenment. You want gnome? apt-get install gnome-core gnome-session etc... It'll download the packages if you've not got them locally and install them. nice. If you've got a fast internet connection (as in ISDN router or faster) then you can even install it over the network, two boot disks and you're away. Paul [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: [ALUG] On-Line for FREE (NOT SPAM!)
by Mark J Ray 23 May '99

23 May '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk James Green <jmkgre(a)essex.ac.uk> writes: > Now ask 4 friends to join, and give them your referral ID. Your account > does not become activated until all four referrals are members. For the second time today: DO NOT SIGN UP FOR THIS! This is a pyramid email collection scam. Their site is poorly designed in a GUI tool and is hosted in the US (odd for a UK internet provider, don't you think?). A conservative estimate of the revenue that they need to generate to service the amount of 0800 calls they need is around the £200,000 mark, which is never going to be generated by 2 email adverts per week. See uk.telecom for more details and a *very* long thread about them, even by uk.telecom standards. Save your time and stop wasting bandwidth by telling others. Please tell whoever you heard it from about this and ask them to pass it on to all the others that they've told and who they heard it from. God, these hoaxes take a lot to stamp out. :( -- MJR Stats Postgrad mailto:h089@mth.uea.ac.uk http://stats.mth.uea.ac.uk/ UEA Norwich UK mailto:markj@stu.uea.ac.uk http://www.stu.uea.ac.uk/ Improves CPU/video memory bandwidth by anything from 20 to 50%. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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