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RE: [ALUG] First meeting...
by Ward, Paul 28 Apr '99

28 Apr '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Hi there Both Myself and Pete Bassill will be coming but we'll have to leave arounf 3.30 ish Paul Ward -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Savory [mailto:A.Savory@uea.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 9:25 PM To: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Subject: [ALUG] First meeting... * List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Hi All, Okay, I've updated the website to list those that have said they'll be there - at the moment, it stands at 8, with a couple more I know of that haven't confirmed yet. Drop me a line people if you think you can make it! Laurie: it's up to you on the sarnies front, as long as there's somewhere handy we can buy good grub, I'll be happy! (Those that know me well, yes I do mean "Adnams" when I say grub :-) Hopefully we'll have a fair selection of CDs kicking around, and I can bring along a Zip drive if need be. I'll leave it up to you on the CD-burner front (hate to inflict needless hours of Win95 use on you). > Is someone bringing a mini-hub? Will I need spare cables etc? I'll bring some cheapernet cable, I'll see if I can lay my hands on a hub. If anyone else has one, PLEASE BRING IT! As for advertising: please print out http://www.anglian.lug.org.uk/images/advert.gif and stick it up wherever you can find space. If you'd rather have postscript or some other format, drop me a line. If you'd like the logo to put together another poster, gimme a shout. If you want to throw together a better logo - please do! (I'm not an artist, that's for sure.) Andrew. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - A.Savory at uea.ac.uk All views are my own - who else would want them? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] ____________________________________________________________ This message is confidential. It may also be privileged or otherwise protected by work product immunity or other legal rules. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system; you should not copy the message or disclose its contents to anyone. ____________________________________________________________ [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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KL/Thetford/BSE
by Mark J Ray 28 Apr '99

28 Apr '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk I'm able to offer a lift from anywhere near the A134, basically. Please reply by email to just me if you're interested. Thanks, -- Mark. Stats Postgrad mailto:M.J.Ray@UEA.ac.uk http://stats.mth.uea.ac.uk/ UEA Norwich UK mailto:markj@stu.uea.ac.uk http://www.stu.uea.ac.uk/ "Very peaceful...if you're not being eaten by a tiger" - BBC 5Live [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Re: Alug meeting on sunday
by Andrew Savory 28 Apr '99

28 Apr '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Hi all, We now have lots of volunteers bringing hubs etc, so I think we should be able to set up quite a network! Also, Adam Bower has volunteered to give a lift to anyone travelling from Norwich: > I will be travelling from Aylsham so will be travelling through Norwich if > anyone is in dire need of a lift. .. so give him a shout at <a.bower(a)thebowery.force9.co.uk> if you are stuck. Andrew. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- A.Savory at uea.ac.uk All views are my own - who else would want them? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Time to spread the word
by Mark J Ray 27 Apr '99

27 Apr '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk I wrote this before the email flurry that just took place. Guess it's still useful, though: Dear all, There are now but five short days until our first meeting. Now is the time to spread the word and try to encourage people to come along. We need to make posters (has someone done this? We could use a PostScript file), email friends, arrange transport where needed, etc etc. I think having a rough idea of numbers and compiling a list of what equipment is being taken is a very good idea. So, here's a basic "to-do" list: 1. Email friends and ask them if they want to come to the meeting. If so, perhaps arrange to demo more than one thing on a box and perhaps arrange to car-share. 2. Email A.Savory(a)UEA.ac.uk with names and details of equipment and software to be demo'ed. Bear in mind the notes about taking power supplies, etc. I assume Laurie doesn't want us to blow the fuses, so there will probably be some restriction on how many machines are in action at once. 3. Print off a poster (file location tbc) and stick it in your office window, on a nearby noticeboard, in the back of your car, on a passing cat, whatever. 4. If you need to be collected from Woodbridge rail station, email Laurie and ask nicely. The 1205 arrival is the one for most people, I think. 5. If you can help with Laurie's ISDN+Firewall setup, email both him and Andrew. I suspect doing 5 will make 4 more likely ;) 6. Polish kit and presentation skills until Sunday. Interestingly, I've just heard that Kingfisher (owners of Comet etc) have entered the Free ISP market. Let's see if we get another Linux-friendly one... MJR. sig TBA. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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RE: [ALUG] Need lift for the meeting..
by Ward, Paul 27 Apr '99

27 Apr '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Both myself and Peter Bassill from Halstead will be coming but we will have to leave about 3.15 3.30 ish okay ? Paul Ward -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Savory [mailto:A.Savory@uea.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 4:23 PM To: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Subject: Re: [ALUG] Need lift for the meeting.. * List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk On Tue, 27 Apr 1999, Martyn B. Drake wrote: > Are there any kind souls in Norwich with enough space in a car to be able to > get me to the meeting on Sunday? I'm based along the Ipswich Road and would > happily throw a few pounds in their direction for petrol costs, etc. Certainly - I'll give you a shout nearer the weekend to sort out times etc. > Does anybody have any copies of RedHat 6.0 burnt on a CD-ROM as yet, as a > matter of interest? I was kinda hoping you'd be able to do that ;-) I've got RedHat 5.2, and I'll try and get a Debian CD or two sorted out as well. > And me final doodah is what is currently planned for > the Sunday anyway? So far - * Welcome, introductions etc * Demos of Gnome, KDE, mozilla? * Installations / linux troubleshooting *Close at around 4, drink in the bar/pub? :-) Any suggestions for stuff to do are welcome. Andrew. --------- The University of East Anglia's - World Wide Web Group ------------ User Services Consultant (Web Information), IT & Computing Services, UEA a.savory(a)uea.ac.uk www.uea@uea.ac.uk www.intra@uea.ac.uk ------------------------Speaking for myself again!--------------------------- [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] ____________________________________________________________ This message is confidential. It may also be privileged or otherwise protected by work product immunity or other legal rules. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system; you should not copy the message or disclose its contents to anyone. ____________________________________________________________ [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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A helping hand from a close group (fwd)
by Andrew Savory 26 Apr '99

26 Apr '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Just got this... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:05:51 +0100 From: Peter Bassill <peter.bassill(a)internal.dircon.net> To: "'info(a)anglian.lug.org.uk'" <info(a)anglian.lug.org.uk> Subject: A helping hand from a close group Hi Fellow Linuxers Welcome to the land of collective thought, help and co-operation. (I come in peace ;) ) An introduction from me; Peter Bassill, Cambridge Linux User Group Web Master. Looking forward to coming to your first meeting, meeting you all and finding out what you all do. Check out our web site, you might like it. www.cam-lug.org. Its still in its childhood but its getting bigger every day. If you need support with anything then please ask. We have an extensive library of distributions, data, libraries etc, all presses to cd or available from our FTP site. Drop me a mail and let me know if you need anything for Sunday. All the best! Peter Bassill Internet Systems Administrator Direct Connection *********************************************** To err is Human To rm -r * from / is luser [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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ADSL update
by Raphael Mankin 23 Apr '99

23 Apr '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Further to my note of the otehr day. If I use my 'spare' host IP that BT gave me, the oepration of the net is distinctly flaky. However, I find that I can use my Demon IP (158.152.9.237) over the ADSL network. It gets masqueraded in the normal way, but appears to be perfectly reliable. My main m/c now has three IPs. One for demon, one for ADSL and one for the internal network. I have also set up masquerading from the rest of my local net, but I have not checked my filter rules all that thoroughly yet. Also, my Win 3.1 machine (they do still exist) does not seem to fetch web pages ;-( ---------------------------------- 2 + 2 = 5 (for large values of 2) Raphael Mankin E-Mail: raph(a)panache.demon.co.uk ---------------------------------- [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Using ADSL
by Raphael Mankin 23 Apr '99

23 Apr '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk BT's ADSL --------- What do you get? --------------- 1. A permanent internet connection. 2Mb/s download, 256Kb/s upload. 2. Static, masqueraded IP. The addresses used are in the 192.168.*.* range. 3. ADSL shares your phone line with voice traffic. You can use voice and data at the same time. 4. Two wall boxes, each about 10" square and about 1 1/2" deep. One is the analogue/data splitter, te other is a 'modem' that provides a utp connection to your network. BT also provide a PCI ethernet card (ne2000 clone, RealTek RTL8029 chip) and a cable. 5. Lots of BT 'constent servers' that no-one in his right mind would want to look at. 6. Access to the whole internet. BT provide web proxies that you can use. What do you not get? ------------------- 1. Mail services. You must register with some ISP for that. 2. Usenet. How do you get it? ----------------- 1. You have to live in the right area. 2. You *must* be running W95/W98. If not, BT won't even talk to you. 3. Connect your web browser to www.btinteractive.com/Registration/. For this site you will need Flash Graphics. BT *say* that you have to be running IE to use their site. I was totally unable to get it to work with IE, but Netscape worked fine. This web site is one of the worst designed and most annoying that I have seen in a long time. 4. Go through the rather long-winded registration process that will include, inter alia, downloading a program (W95/W98) that will examine your machine. You then mail the output of this program back to BT. 5. In due course BT will come and install the equipment in your premises. 6. Use the BT supplied floppies to configure your W95/W98. Donwload about 30Mb of other software and install it. You can now get at the BT content services. Apart from access to the BT servers you can ignore all their instructions. For Linux configuration, see below. Network Config -------------- You get a 2-bit (4 address) network allocated to you. BT tell you about two of the addresses, but not the other two. The address is of the form 192.168.x.y with a 30-bit netmask. 192.168.x.y+1 is the BT 'modem' 192.168.x.y+2 is the address BT tell you to use for your machine 192.168.x.y+3 is the broadcast address. 192.168.x.y is a spare host address and can be used if you have two machines on your network. BT's name servers are on 192.168.0.* and 192.168.1.*, so that rather rules out using the 192.168.*.* private address range on your home network. You just don't know who else might be using your addresses and causing conflicts. However you can still use 10.*.*.*. Routing ------- In /etc/networks create entries for your local network and for the BT network. loopback 127.0.0.0 localnet 10.0.0.0 BTnet 192.168.x.y In /etc/hosts create entries for the BT hosts, e.g. 192.168.0.18 dns1.BTInteractive.net alderney.BTInteractive.net 192.168.1.5 dns2.BTInteractive.net 12.168.x.y+1 gate.BTInteractive I assume that you have just one ethernet card in your machine. If you have two then it becomes easier to isolate your private network from the public one. At a suitable place in your rc scripts add: /sbin/ifconfig eth0 10.0.0.1 broadcast 10.255.255.255 netmask 10.0.0.0 /sbin/ifconfig eth0:0 192.168.x.y+2 broadcast 192.168.x.y+3 netmask 192.168.x.y /sbin/route add -net localnet netmask 10.0.0.0 eth0 /sbin/route add -net BTnet netmask 192.168.x.y eth0:0 /sbin/route add default netmask 0.0.0.0 gw gate.BTInteractive eth0:0 With two ethernet cards replace eth0:0 by eth1, or vice versa. In /etc/resolve.conf put: nameserver 192.168.0.18 nameserver 192.168.1.5 Security -------- You are now directly connect to the internet, so security is a major issue. Make sure all user accounts have *good* passwords. Use shadow passwords. Run pwck and grpck regularly. Disable system accounts such as bin, sync, daemon etc. by putting an 'x' in the password field of /etc/shadow. In /etc/inetd.conf comment out the entries for chargen, finger, netstat, systat, bootps and tftp. Put sensible values in /etc/hosts.deny and /etc/hosts.allow. A good place to start is to put ALL:ALL in hosts.deny and then to enable just those services you want, e.g. smtp, in hosts.allow. When a connection is denied run a script to log the event; for instance, in hosts.deny put the line: ALL:ALL:spawn ( /usr/bin/logger -p auth.debug "%a %d %c %h %p %s")& Implement packet filtering to discard any packets that look suspicious, e.g. those trying to use your machine as a gateway. Also drop any packets to the local net that try to go out through the BT gateway; any packets from the gateway that purport to come from the local network. If you are running a private netowrk you may want to nominate one machine as a masquerading gateway so that you can control access more easily. Update your Samba config to allow connections only to/from the local network. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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RE:
by Peter Onion 21 Apr '99

21 Apr '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Sadly I am busy on the 2nd :-( Peter Onion. ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Peter Onion <Peter.Onion(a)btinternet.com> Date: 20-Apr-99 Time: 07:57:39 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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So, where now?
by Mark J Ray 20 Apr '99

20 Apr '99

* List: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Hiya, Since starting the mailing list about 10 days ago, we've got a meeting organised for 2nd May, the domain name, some web pages, listings in some of the LUG indices, started dialogue with neighbouring LUGs, publicised ourselves a bit with a press release and doubled (when I last looked) our subscribers. But we've only just begun. So I'm writing yet another "TO-DO" list, as far as I see it. Feel free to dispute or add to this list, but I don't think anyone can deny that if we get the first few done, then we'll gain people and have no problem with the later ones. So, here it is: * Announce the meeting to uk.comp.os.linux and u.l.e-a (Andrew?) Include details of how to join this list. Feel free to copy the posting to any other local groups at your Service Provider. * Any members posting there (eg Me!) add the ALUG web address to their signature block that they use to post to news (yeah, I know they're crowded already). I think ALUG members are becoming more visible on u.c.o.l (although I could probably incite a flamewar on any given topic :P). * Anyone keeping some Linux web pages stick an ALUG link-back logo on them and add them to the ALUG links on the main web site (Andrew, can you add a few more categories? Damn, I'm asking you to do a lot!) * Discuss who's going to bring what to the meeting. Andrew, could you keep a (basic) web page about the meeting, with links to Laurie's site and details of who's bringing what? * Produce a poster that we can all post around our local areas. (I know some kind souls have offered to do this.) * In a week or two, start trying to work out a venue and date for another meeting. * Keep up the good work! Publicise, invite people, etc. Food for thought? -- MJR Please use the address in the Reply-To line at the top, if set. http://www.stu.uea.ac.uk/ http://stats.mth.uea.ac.uk/ http://www.anglian.lug.org.uk/ [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECT of "unsubscribe" to this list and "subscribe" to ] [ alug-announce(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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