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[ALUG Announce] ALUG Norwich Pub Meet Thursday 11th April
by Viperfang 08 Apr '13

08 Apr '13

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- Hello Norwich Aluggers, Our monthly ALUG Norwich social meeting will be held this Thursday, 11th April at The Coach and Horses (82 Thorpe Road, Norwich, NR1 1BA). The meeting officially starts at 8pm, although some people may arrive earlier. More information on those people can be found on the list and the IRC channel. If you are unsure if you will recognise us then make yourself and your intent to attend known by either posting on list or visiting us on IRC so we can look out for you rather than hiding in the corner. Optionally you could ask at the bar if they know where the geeky computer weirdos are and they'll point you in the right direction (seriously!). Another possibility is look for heaps of electronics on a table that may possibly look like movie props that would used for detonating explosives. Feel free to bring electronics/laptops/gadgets to the meet, you will by no means be alone. Ben Bewick aka Viperfang NB: This mail is automated, please refer to the usual sources for more information. ALUG Contact Details: Website : http://www.alug.org.uk/ IRC : #alug on irc.alug.org.uk List : http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo Twitter : http://twitter.com/anglianlug Identica: TBA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2381613902 ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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Dropbox alternatives, was Re: Diagnosing high X CPU usage
by Mark Rogers 07 Apr '13

07 Apr '13

On 2 April 2013 16:31, MJ Ray <mjr(a)phonecoop.coop> wrote: > > Owncloud, either with your own storage (it can use lots) but I don't > remember if anyone does loss-leader offers like the free 2GB for it > yet. Following a link from OwnCloud's website, I find that OwnDrive.com do a free 1GB account. However, I have looked at OwnCloud (briefly) a long time ago so I thought I'd have another look at it, using my own server to host it. I decided to go with the install from the OpenSuse Build Farm repositories (onto Ubuntu 12.04), since that takes care of updates. However: $ sudo apt-get install owncloud [...] The following extra packages will be installed: autoconf automake autotools-dev binutils cpp cpp-4.6 gcc gcc-4.6 libc-dev-bin libc6-dev libltdl-dev libmpc2 libmpfr4 libquadmath0 libssl-dev libssl-doc libtool linux-libc-dev m4 manpages-dev php-pear php-xml-parser php5-dev php5-sqlite shtool zlib1g-dev That's a lot of dependencies that I wouldn't expect? -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0844 251 1450 Registered in England (0456 0902) @ 13 Clarke Rd, Milton Keynes, MK1 1LG

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git usage
by Chris Green 04 Apr '13

04 Apr '13

I have lots of scrappy little bash and python scripts that live in ~/bin. I have been trying to keep tabs on them using git but I don't seem to have a good strategy for doing this yet. Should one:- 1 - Have a separate 'development' directory where one mucks around with the scripts and keep that directory under git. Then, when tested copy the script to ~/bin. 2 - Simply put ~/bin under git. The second approach is much easier in some ways and most of the scripts are pretty trivial (but easier to test when in their proper place). ... and/or are there any git commands/tools to help one do this? -- Chris Green

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Diagnosing high X CPU usage
by Mark Rogers 04 Apr '13

04 Apr '13

According to "top", /usr/bin/X is using between 30% and 60% of my CPU (and can go higher). this is on an AMD A6-3670 (quad core) system running Kubuntu (13.04 beta), and my new nVidia G210 graphics card with proprietary drivers. I had the same problems with the onboard GPU in 13.04 and 12.10 before it. Eg: PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 1357 root 20 0 321m 207m 49m R 48.9 1.3 214:58.86 Xorg Why would X CPU be so high, and what can I do about it? -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0844 251 1450 Registered in England (0456 0902) @ 13 Clarke Rd, Milton Keynes, MK1 1LG

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Re: [ALUG] old tat going free
by Anthony Anson 02 Apr '13

02 Apr '13

On 02/04/13 20:29, mick wrote: > On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 16:45:42 +0100 > Anthony Anson <tony.anson(a)girolle.co.uk> allegedly wrote: >> I expect to be at the next Norwich meeting > > I've never attended and so don't take much notice of the event > notifications. When and where is the next one? Ah. Do you see any regular attenders? Until my GP gets my beta blockers sorted so that I'm not nearly passing out from time to time, I'm not safe behind the wheel. IIRC, you live near Syleham? That's a bit far to bike. How often do you get into Norwich? I'm sure The Tea House near the bottom of Elm Hill would accept a small parcel. Obviously, I'm not in any hurry. /snip/ >>> Allows equipment with SCART or phono outputs to plug in to a >>> TV or aerial socket Direct channel selection /snip/ >> Thanks - sounds right up my street! (If you still have it...) >> > > Yes, and you can have that too. Many thanks. -- Tony http://www.girolle.co.uk/

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Open/Libre Office and docx
by Bev Nicolson 02 Apr '13

02 Apr '13

I've been finding that opening MS docx files with Libre Office makes the formatting go ever so slightly awol. Is there another office program I could use that doesn't have this problem? Bev.

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2600 meeting at 18:00 on Friday the 5th April.
by Viperfang 02 Apr '13

02 Apr '13

Quick heads up about this months Norwich 2600 meeting, more info at http://www.norwich2600.co.uk

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Network printing
by Chris Walker 28 Mar '13

28 Mar '13

I got fed up with the Huawei router that Talktalk supplied, and wanting to have network printing I bought a Buffalo ADSL router. That has a USB port on it to enable network printing. But I can't make it work. According to the stuff I've looked at, it should be as simple as finding the IP address of the router and configuring the printer to be that address. I know the IP address of the router, it's 192.168.1.1 but I can't get beyond that. Where am I going wrong? Can anybody help please? If it helps, I'm not running ddwrt which is one of the options. When it came to the initial setup of the router, I chose to keep things simple as I was having to copy settings from the Huawei.

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Basic (I think!) Python problem
by Mark Rogers 27 Mar '13

27 Mar '13

I'm a programmer, but I'm not a Python programmer, yet. So I'm sure what I'm doing wrong here relates more to my lack of knowledge than anything else... I'm looking at a Websockets example here: http://eventlet.net/doc/examples.html#websocket-server-example On my Ubuntu system I have tried: sudo apt-get install python-eventlet (which installs Eventlet 0.12.1, which appears to be the current version) I then try to run the example and get: $python eventlet.py Traceback (most recent call last): File "eventlet.py", line 1, in <module> import eventlet File "/home/mark/python/eventlet.py", line 4, in <module> from eventlet import wsgi ImportError: cannot import name wsgi If I Google the error, using the assumption that stupid errors are made by lots of people so I won't be alone, I find only two hits neither of which are remotely related. But I've tried this on more than one system without success. Suggestions? I don't have the relevant build tools installed to try using easy_install instead but as 0.12.1 is the latest version I don't think the install method is the problem here? -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0844 251 1450 Registered in England (0456 0902) @ 13 Clarke Rd, Milton Keynes, MK1 1LG

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Recommended "entry level" nVidia graphics card
by Mark Rogers 25 Mar '13

25 Mar '13

I have a PC with on-board ATI HD-6530D. The motherboard is less than a year old, but apparently this is far too old for AMD/ATI to still support the chipset so proprietary drivers don't exist for it. I'm using the FOSS drivers (which would be my preference anyway) but I'm having issues in X that are causing it to die one way or another every day or so. The research I've done so far suggests that I have two options: give up half my life to working out what's going on, or accept it and move on. With the latter option in mind, that means I want to buy a cheap PCI-X video card, but I'd like to get one that's at least as "good" as the HD6530D. And for reasons of lack of support I'd like to avoid AMD/ATI. That pretty much means nVidia (unless someone tells me they're just as bad?). Any recommendations? No gaming, so just responsive desktop graphics, and reliable under Linux. (I'm on Kubuntu 13.04 (beta) at the moment, which I upgraded to in part to see if it improved things, which it didn't.) Aside: I did manage to install the ATI drivers and it did seem better, albeit with an "unsupported hardware" logo permanently on my screen, which it may be possible to get rid of. But I didn't stick with it long enough to see if it really made things better. If nVidia/ATI are as bad as each other then I'd consider either brand's card that's currently supported if it's cheap enough, especially if it's reliable under the FOSS drivers. I was sure that AMD made some moves to open sourcing their drivers, but I must have dreamed it? -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0844 251 1450 Registered in England (0456 0902) @ 13 Clarke Rd, Milton Keynes, MK1 1LG

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