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CSS/HTML question - how to vary a CSS value easily?
by Chris G 20 Jul '11

20 Jul '11

I have done a Google search for 'dynamic CSS' and I can see large scale ways of doing what I want to do but I was wondering if anyone has a simple way of doing it. What I want is a way to insert a variable amount of vertical space between blocks of HTML. The particular case I'm interested in is where I have a <UL> below either a <P>...</P> or below a heading <Hx>. The problem is that the HTML is generated by a Wiki so one doesn't have *direct* access to the generated code and the text above a list is *always* a paragraph, it's not possible to turn it off. The existing CSS setting margins for paragraphs and headings works right for 99% of cases but when you have lists under heading *and* lists under paragraphs it's very difficult to get things right using just the CSS. So, a quick (and dirty?!) approach to fixing the few places where the spacing is too small or too large would be to have the ability to insert an empty block/paragraph where one could set the height/margins easily. A quick, single case, bodge is something like:- <DIV id=unvert><P></P></DIV> With CSS for div#unvert setting appropriate size/margins. However what I'd *really* like to do would be to enable setting of the margins or height of the paragraph from the code somehow, that would allow one to insert more/less space as required rather than needing lots of different CSS ids, one for each different spacing. Any ideas, or completely different approaches, or am I missing something entirely? -- Chris Green

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Surprised at different 'rm -f' operation when root or not root work?
by Chris G 20 Jul '11

20 Jul '11

I have just discovered that 'rm -f' (also 'rm -fr') only overrides permissions when run as root. I.e. if I have a file I own that is read only I *can't* delete it if I am the user that owns the file, even using 'rm -f', however if I sudo to root privileges then 'rm -f' will remove the file even if there is no write permission. Strangely the man pages on my system don't seem to document this difference between root and non-root use of rm. For the -f option it just says:- `-f' `--force' Ignore nonexistent files and never prompt the user. Ignore any previous `--interactive' (`-i') option. Which seems to be the non-root case, i.e. it *doesn't* remove a file where you don't have write permission even with '-f'. So where is the 'do it regardless of permissions' action which happens when root uses 'rm -f' documented? Finally, the thing that caused the problem, how do I guarantee that an 'rm -fr' run by a user will be able to delete everything in the specified directory tree? Do I have to do a 'chmod -R +w' first? -- Chris Green

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Scripting question - how to get *relative* directory within a bash script?
by Chris G 19 Jul '11

19 Jul '11

I need to find what the relative directory (relative to $HOME that is) within a bash script and, at the moment, I can only see rather messy ways of doing it. To go into more detail I want a way to generate a string of the form ~/subdir1/subdir2 when a script is run from ~/subdir1/subdir2. The best I can come up with at the moment is to get the full path to the current directory using pwd and then to remove $HOME from that string using sed, e.g.:- fullpath=`pwd` relpath=`echo $fullpath | sed s#$HOME#~#` Actually that's not quite as nasty a I thought, but it still feels like there should be a neater way. (I haven't tried it so there may well be issues with quoting etc. but you can see the idea) Any ideas? -- Chris Green

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[ALUG Announce] 3rd Monday Monthly Ipswich Social Meeting : McGintys, Northgate Street
by samwise 18 Jul '11

18 Jul '11

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- After an inexplicable absence in June, the monthly "Third Monday" ALUG Ipswich Social Meeting is back tonight, Monday 18th July, at 20:00: P J McGinty & Sons 15 Northgate Street Ipswich Suffolk IP1 3BY Tel: 01473 251 515 Map/Directions URI: http://maps.google.co.uk/?q=IP1+3BY WWW: http://www.pjmcgintys.co.uk/ McGintys pub is in the centre of Ipswich. It's directly opposite the town's central library and has a reputation for good Irish beer. We're usually to be found in the lowest section of the bar, near the library entrance to the pub. All are welcome, novices and experienced users. Feel free to ask for further information on the Main ALUG mailing list. I'll definitely be there, so if any one new wants to drop in, look for the guy in the corner with the latest copy of LXF ... ;) We're normally in the downstairs-from-the-bar-bit, nearest the entrance on the library side. Peter. ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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Installing Ununtu server to degraded RAID
by Mark Rogers 13 Jul '11

13 Jul '11

I want to set up a server using software RAID1 as follows: - Install single disk, do the OS install (Ubuntu server 11.04), creating RAID array (but degraded as only one disk) - Boot the system and check it all works - Install second disk and add to array The install works fine (I create an md partition and an array of 2 devices but only add one to it), and install grub to /dev/sda1 as usual. However it won't boot. Grub starts and gives me my menu, but gets no further. Suggestions? Am I doing this all wrong? (Reason for doing this: migrating an existing RAID1 array using the onboard RAID to an mdraid array; I want to keep one of the original disks to recover some files off once the system is up before wiping it and adding it to the new array. But also I want to confirm that my new array will boot with only one disk otherwise there's not a lot of point to it!) -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0844 251 1450 Registered in England (0456 0902) 21 Drakes Mews, Milton Keynes, MK8 0ER

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[ALUG Announce] ALUG Norwich Pub Meet Thursday 14th July
by Viperfang 11 Jul '11

11 Jul '11

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- Hello Aluggers, Our monthly ALUG Norwich social meeting will be held this Thursday, 14th July at The Coach and Horses (82 Thorpe Road, Norwich, NR1 1BA). The meeting officially starts at 8pm, although some people may arrive earlier. More information on those people can be found on the list and the IRC channel. If you are unsure if you will recognise us then make yourself and your intent to attend known by either posting on list or visiting us on IRC so we can look out for you rather than hiding in the corner. Optionally you could ask at the bar if they know where the geeky computer weirdos are and they'll point you in the right direction (seriously!). Another possibility is look for heaps of electronics on a table that may possibly look like movie props that would used for detonating explosives. Feel free to bring electronics/laptops/gadgets to the meet, you will by no means be alone. Ben Bewick aka Viperfang NB: This mail is automated, please refer to the usual sources for more information. ALUG Contact Details: Website : http://www.alug.org.uk/ IRC : #alug on irc.alug.org.uk List : http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo Twitter : http://twitter.com/anglianlug Identica: TBA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2381613902 ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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Reg Exp question
by Stuart Bailey 08 Jul '11

08 Jul '11

Hello, I'm trying to search for a file name by pattern that will output the full path and timestamps. I've tried using ls -Rl | grep "^\." to show all the directories. but then I need to show all files within those directories that match my pattern, eg *abc.png Can I do this with my reg exp? Find does not give the timestamps. Many thanks, Stuart Bailey BSc (hons) CEng CITP MBCS LinuSoft (Managing Director) Linux Specialist & Software Developer ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Phone: (0845) 658 3563 Direct: +44 (0) 1953 878162 Fax: +44 (0) 1603 858583 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.linusoft.co.uk __________ Information from ESET Mail Security, version of virus signature database 6276 (20110708) __________ The message was checked by ESET Mail Security. http://www.eset.com

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Re: [ALUG] Reg Exp question
by James Bensley 08 Jul '11

08 Jul '11

Classic school boy reply-to-person-not-to-list fail On 8 July 2011 11:37, James Bensley <jwbensley(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I'm not sure i' I under stand your request but are you looking for: > ls -Rl | grep ".abc.png" > > -- > James. > http://www.jamesbensley.co.cc/

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APC UPS Batteries (RBC18) going spare
by Mark Rogers 07 Jul '11

07 Jul '11

If anyone is interested I have a box of used but working RBC18 battery sets from APC UPS's. Basically they've been replaced as part of routine maintenance, they've been in use approx 2yrs. I need to know asap (today) if there's interest else they'll probably go off to recycling. They'd need collecting from our office in Peterborough. -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0844 251 1450 Registered in England (0456 0902) @ 13 Clarke Rd, Milton Keynes, MK1 1LG

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Re: [ALUG] svn tags, branches, etc
by Phil Ashby 06 Jul '11

06 Jul '11

Mark Rogers wrote: >> After an hour or so of reading tutorials and trawling Google I'm >> still stuck on something. I find the best place to start is the on line official book. Here's chapter 4 on branches (and merging): http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn.branchmerge.using.html >> Suppose I want to call my current software tree "v1", and create a >> copy to become "v2". The software is a PHP web library and basically >> the purpose of v2 is to start removing all the old PHP3/PHP4 >> compatibility code, and tidy things up, thus breaking backwards >> compatibility. >> >> I think I start with something like: >> svn copy -m "v2" <svnrepo> <svnrepo>/tags/v1 >> svn copy -m "v2" <svnrepo> <svnrepo>/tags/v2 >> >> My current code is already in a directory ~/mylib/v1, and I want to >> keep that as it is (several apps on the server are using it), and >> checkout v2 directory ~/mylib/v2; new apps will start to use that >> version. AIUI, you should be able to create a branch for v2 development without affecting the v1 tree, just by doing this: svn copy -m 'making v2 branch' <repo>/mylib/v1 <repo>/mylib/v2 >> So far so good. Where I'm stuck is how to make sure that ~/mylib/v1 >> stays on the v1 branch so I can continue to fix bugs and add >> features (unlikely but possible) to it if I need to, and ~/mylib/v2 >> similarly stays on the v2 branch. Both will have regular commits to >> their respective branches, and I may want to merge fixes from v1 >> into v2 (and vice versa). In other words v1 will become v1.0.1, >> v1.0.2, ... and v2 will independently become v2.0.1, v2.0.2, ... >> whilst sharing common history and allowing me to migrate some >> changes between branches. According to the book, you can now check out your v2 branch to a separate working area: svn checkout <repo>/mylib/v2 ..where you can continue development of v2 separate from the v1 working area. These two work areas will initially be the same of course, however changes checked into v2 will not appear in v1 and vice versa. If you want to 'tag' specific releases of anything, you simply copy the relevant tree again, but give it a tag name eg: svn copy <repo>/mylib/v1 <repo>/mylib/v1.0.3 ..this is the same as creating a branch, thus the *humans* have to understand that this directory should not have changes committed (you can also use the paranoid access control mentioned in the book to prevent this happening). Merging is covered in the next page of the book (after branching): http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn.branchmerge.basicmerging.html ..where you will want to merge specific changes (that fix specific bugs) from one branch to the other. This works well as long as the humans don't commit bug fixes with other work, preventing the selection of changes by a changeset number (read the part on cherrypicking). HTH, Phil

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