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Re: [ALUG] Could you build a water cooled PC?
by Krishna Birth 13 Jun '11

13 Jun '11

> > Message: 9 > Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 16:03:03 +0100 > From: Wayne Stallwood <ALUGlist(a)digimatic.co.uk> > To: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > Subject: Re: [ALUG] Could you build a water cooled PC? > Message-ID: <4DF4D527.6090709(a)digimatic.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > On 12/06/11 12:43, David Crisp wrote: > >> >> Mineral-free ultrapure water has a resistivity of 18.2 megaohm . cm. I'd >> call that "pretty damn non-conductive", personally. >> >> Of course, eighteen megaohm water is capable of leaching sodium ions out >> of glass, so... > > Yeh this is kinda my point...it is possible to make water fairly non > conductive (although domestic grade distilled water is unlikely to be at > the purity you define) but it is damn near impossible to keep it like that. > > I have access to Reverse Osmosis systems that can produce water that > achieves something like 0.06 microsiemens/CM of conductivity (which > equates roughly to 18meg/CM resistance) but the only way they can do > that is by keeping the water in the RO loop in constant cycle through > the filters let it stop doing that and it will quickly go up. > Wayne, You have access to Reverse Osmosis systems then could you filter a few litres holy river water from India, what are the costs and procedures for doing this? Regards Meeku

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Bring Your Own Server
by Krishna Birth 13 Jun '11

13 Jun '11

I am not a techie and thus could any expert please say if there are any data centres in GB offering inexpensive, 'Bring Your Own Server' service with possibility to set up the India holy river water cooled PC into a server for hosting websites? Sorry if this mailing list post is a bit different to the what you are used to. Regards, Meeku

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Re: [ALUG] Could you build a water cooled PC?
by steve-ALUG＠hst.me.uk 13 Jun '11

13 Jun '11

If Quiet is what you want, I've had stuff from QuietPC that's made a tremendous difference. Not particularly cheap though. (Satisfied customer, otherwise, no connection) On 10/06/11 15:39, Matthew Green wrote: > Why do you want one? > > If you're looking to build something to help overclocking the inexpensive > kits are generally worse than high end air-cooling. > > If you're thinking about reducing noise then passive air cooled heatsinks > and maybe a large slow system fan would be a better direction. > > Matt > > -----Original Message----- > From: main-bounces(a)lists.alug.org.uk [mailto:main-bounces@lists.alug.org.uk] > On Behalf Of Krishna Birth > Sent: 07 June 2011 19:39 > To: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > Subject: [ALUG] Could you build a water cooled PC? > > I am interested also in having a water cooled PC. I am on a budget. > Thus it should not be expensive. The watercooling kit should be open > not closed / sealed unit because it should allow me to put the > distilled water. > > Regards, > > > Meeku > > _______________________________________________ > main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > http://www.alug.org.uk/ > http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main > Unsubscribe? See message headers or the web site above! > > > _______________________________________________ > main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > http://www.alug.org.uk/ > http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main > Unsubscribe? See message headers or the web site above!

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PDF manipulation, how to print a misconfigured booklet with 'two pages per page'?
by Chris G 13 Jun '11

13 Jun '11

I have a PDF document downloaded where the (landscape) pages are actually delivered as two pages per 'page'. Thus if you print it in the normal way you get two landscape pages across each sheet of paper. Is it possible, relatively easily, to tell Acrobat Reader (or any of the alternatives) to print each 'page' of the downloaded PDF as two pages on the printer? -- Chris Green

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Re: [ALUG] Could you build a water cooled PC?
by James Bensley 13 Jun '11

13 Jun '11

On 10 June 2011 15:39, Matthew Green <matthew.j.green(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: > If you're looking to build something to help overclocking the inexpensive > kits are generally worse than high end air-cooling. I agree... > The watercooling kit should be open > not closed / sealed unit because it should allow me to put the > distilled water. Unless I have miss-understand, this is a bad idea. In the event of a leak you want to be using non-conductive coolant liquid. $friend had water cooling, it sprung a leak 'thankfully' over only one part, one of this graphics cards, which after being drained and dried still worked. -- James. http://www.jamesbensley.co.cc/ There are 10 kinds of people in the world; Those who understand Vigesimal, and J others...?

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Re: [ALUG] Bring Your Own Server
by Krishna Birth 12 Jun '11

12 Jun '11

n.b. I am re-posting with subject line corresponding to the original post, is that the way to respond to mailing list digests? There was an item quite interesting. This was from: eweekeurope.co.uk http://www.eweekeurope.co.uk/news/liquid-cooling-gets-sun-co-founders-backi… "Liquid Cooling Gets Sun Co-Founder’s Backing" Regards Meeku

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Re: [ALUG] main Digest, Vol 72, Issue 9
by Krishna Birth 12 Jun '11

12 Jun '11

There was an item quite interesting. This was from: eweekeurope.co.uk http://www.eweekeurope.co.uk/news/liquid-cooling-gets-sun-co-founders-backi… "Liquid Cooling Gets Sun Co-Founder’s Backing" Regards Meeku

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Re: [ALUG] Could you build a water cooled PC?
by David Crisp 12 Jun '11

12 Jun '11

On 11 Jun 2011, at 20:11, Matthew Green wrote: >>> >> Distilled water *is* virtually non-conductive. It's only the salts >> and >> impurities in tap water (and/or river water etc.) that make it >> moderately conductive. > > > It's not only the salts. There is some natural ionisation that will > result in free H+ and OH- ions. You can't really escape that so even > mineral free ultra pure water in a perfectly sealed sterile container > (of a material that won't release minerals as the water desperately > tries to leach them) will still be *slightly* conductive. Mineral-free ultrapure water has a resistivity of 18.2 megaohm . cm. I'd call that "pretty damn non-conductive", personally. Of course, eighteen megaohm water is capable of leaching sodium ions out of glass, so... DC.

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Re: [ALUG] Could you build a water cooled PC?
by Ricky Bruce 11 Jun '11

11 Jun '11

On the subject of mineral oils, i am sure most people have already seen this, but it is still cool, especially if you like Bioshock http://imgur.com/a/jYv3X Ricky On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 8:11 PM, Matthew Green <matthew.j.green(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: > Yeah, you can go for cooling fluids which are basically distilled water with > additives (Which is what I've gone for). But the only options for proper > non-conductivity are mineral oils (which can be a bit viscous) or another > option is Fluronert by 3M which was used by Cray, but that's more expensive > than fine champagne. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: main-bounces(a)lists.alug.org.uk [mailto:main-bounces@lists.alug.org.uk] > On Behalf Of Wayne Stallwood > Sent: 11 June 2011 17:36 > To: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > Subject: Re: [ALUG] Could you build a water cooled PC? > > >>> >> Distilled water *is* virtually non-conductive. It's only the salts and >> impurities in tap water (and/or river water etc.) that make it >> moderately conductive. > > > It's not only the salts. There is some natural ionisation that will > result in free H+ and OH- ions. You can't really escape that so even > mineral free ultra pure water in a perfectly sealed sterile container > (of a material that won't release minerals as the water desperately > tries to leach them) will still be *slightly* conductive. > > Also pretty much as soon as it came into contact with the guts of a PC > it will absorb enough minerals to become conductive rather quickly if it > hadn't already done so in the cooling loop of a cheap Watercooling system. > > _______________________________________________ > main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > http://www.alug.org.uk/ > http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main > Unsubscribe? See message headers or the web site above! > > > _______________________________________________ > main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > http://www.alug.org.uk/ > http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main > Unsubscribe? See message headers or the web site above! >

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CSS question about using float
by Chris G 11 Jun '11

11 Jun '11

I have a little CSS conundrum. I want to have a heading (H1 or H2) followed by some small and different coloured text on the same line. I can't do much manipulation of the headings because they are generated by a Wiki, but I can apply CSS to them as well if necessary. So, I have got as far as something like:- <html><div class="textright">&nbsp Text on right</div></html> <html><h1>Heading 1</h1><html> with CSS:- .textright { margin-top: 1em; margin-bottom: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; float: right; } This works to an extent, the 'Text on right' does appear on the same line as the H1 heading as I want. However it's right across on the RHS and I really want it nestled up against the H1 text. Is there any reasonably easy way to get what I want? I'd really prefer not to have to make the heading 'float: left;' as this causes all sort of other fun and games, mainly because there's no easy way to 'clear: both;' afterwards. What I want is a box that occupies the whole width of the page the the right of the heading and then place the 'Text on right' within that box aligned to the left, but how do I get a box to place itself like that? -- Chris Green

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