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Re: [ALUG] Asus Eee pc 4G
by Barrys linux mail 10 Dec '07

10 Dec '07

Hi Thanks for your views, I like the machine and may purchase one when my old laptop dies.Like the fact that it runs linux and no i will not put Windoze on it.Lets have more linux base machines cause i think Vista Sucks! Dell now do linux machines maybe others will follow. Barry

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Re: [ALUG] Cheap Dells
by mbm 10 Dec '07

10 Dec '07

A guy I know at Symantec told me that Dell (in common with other volume box shifters) receive a subsidy from the suppliers of products such as AV, firewalls, etc which they pre-install on the windows boxes. The logic here is that the punter will normally sign up to use the pre-installed "freebie" when the initial licence period expires. Thus the third party company (Symantec or whatever) gains market share while the box shifter gets a subsidy. There is not a mature enough "market" in such products in the Linux world so we end up with the anomalous situtation where a Linux installation actually costs the box shifter money - despite the cost of the MS install. Mick >From: MJ Ray <mjr(a)phonecoop.coop> >Subject: Re: [ALUG] Asus Eee pc 4G >To: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk >Message-ID: <475d4a23.4BrVmz4rdyG4m5/F%mjr(a)phonecoop.coop> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Barrys linux mail <bazubuntumail(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > > Dell now do linux machines maybe others will follow. >I've read (and I think I checked when a family friend was after a new >laptop) that it's cheaper to buy a Dell Windows machine of the same >spec than to buy one of their Ubuntu machines. Also, you can try for >the Windows tax refund. >So, that makes me wonder if Dell are either:- >a. market-testing the gullibility of Ubuntu users; >b. looking to say "well, demand wasn't as high as predicted" when they >accept the Microsoft shilling to become an exclusively Windows vendor. >Paranoid or experienced?

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Why is rsync forking copies of itself?
by Chris G 10 Dec '07

10 Dec '07

I'm running some backups using rsync, it seems to be spawning multiple copies of itself:- root 4426 4424 1 11:24 ? 00:01:14 rsync -rqt --size-only /home /freecom/backup root 4427 4426 0 11:24 ? 00:00:01 rsync -rqt --size-only /home /freecom/backup root 4429 4427 4 11:24 ? 00:02:53 rsync -rqt --size-only /home /freecom/backup Why is it doing this? .... and *should* it be doing this as all three copies of rsync appear to be doing exactly the same thing. -- Chris Green

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Good NAS boxes for Linux?
by Chris G 10 Dec '07

10 Dec '07

Does anyone hear use a NAS with their Linux system? I.e. some sort of Network Storage on their home/office network to provide backup disk space and other facilities? I have a Freecom NAS box with 500Gb in it which works OK'ish with Linux but I'd be interested in knowing if anyone has anything which works better. The main problem with the Freecom box is that its SMB implementation is rather old/limited and doesn't work particularly well with mount.cifs to mount the Freecom disk drive across the network. What I'd ideally like is a low powered computer on which I can run Linux. The Freecom NAS (and similar boxes) are Linux based systems but the software isn't easily accessible for updates/fixes etc. I could use an old PC but they consume much more power, the NAS boxes are often fanless and consume only 15 to 20 watts. -- Chris Green

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[ALUG Announce] Pub Meeting Thurs 13th December
by Richard Lewis 10 Dec '07

10 Dec '07

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- Dear ALUG, The monthly second Thursday social meeting of ALUG will take place on * Thursday 13th December * at The Reindeer (10 Dereham Road, Norwich, NR2 4AY; tel. 01603 762223). It's very near the junction of Dereham Road and the Norwich inner ring road (Grapes Hill) and serves a selection of real ales, nice pub food (if you fancy going early to eat) and coffee. I intend to be there from about 20:00. Others may be there earlier. We should have a table reserved at the back of the pub just to the left of the bar. Note that it's late night shopping in Norwich on Thursdays and, with Christmas being close, the traffic could be busy! We look forward to seeing you there. Cheers, Richard -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Richard Lewis - UEA, MUS PG http://www.richard-lewis.me.uk/ JID: ironchicken(a)jabber.earth.li -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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Asus Eee pc 4G
by Barrys linux mail 09 Dec '07

09 Dec '07

Hi This looks a nice little machine , what do ya think? and it runs Linux www.asuslaptop.co.uk Barry

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Recommended DVD player?
by Greg Thomas 09 Dec '07

09 Dec '07

Can any recommend a DVD player for Linux (Ubuntu, specifically)? The default one, Totem Movie Player, will play the DVD, but has no navigation at all other than the slider bar at the bottom, and that's a bit flaky at best. It also only works when a DVD is inserted; when starting from the Applications menu it complains of missing codecs. Or perhaps I've just missed something? TIA, Greg

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[Fwd: Re: Lyx - anyone use it?]
by James Freer 08 Dec '07

08 Dec '07

Is a reply meant to default to individual's private email addresses on this group - or is it yet another problem with gmail [or perhaps my email client setting somewhere]. james

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Linux alternative to Outlook?
by Phil Wade 08 Dec '07

08 Dec '07

I'm wanting to use a Linux machine (just Ubuntu) for my "main" machine to handle my business calls and contacts. The trouble is, there doesn't seem to be a Linux alternative to Outlook - which I use for Calendar and Contacts at the mo. Evolution just seems to be a replacement for Outlook Express, not Outlook. Have I missed something? Regards,Phil Wade

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Wiki spam problem
by samwise 07 Dec '07

07 Dec '07

There's still a spam problem with the wiki - I just cleared out loads of mainly chinese spam pages. At least they don't appear to be editing our own pages (perhaps a fix was put in by someone earlier?) ... If anyone with admin rights wants to look into it, I wonder if we could configure MoinMoin in any of the following ways: a) restrict wiki to English only b) only accept modifications with an explanatory comment (most of the spam ones don't) c) only accept modifications from registered users and require all new accounts to be approved (guess most people who want an account already have one, so that should only be requests from new users. We can always put a note on the wiki asking them to post to the mailing list to get an account.). Just some thoughts ... Peter.

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