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by Neil Cordner 10 Oct '07

10 Oct '07

Hi all, Thought I'd join your mailing list in the hope to advance my knowledge of Linux. I'm fairly new to Linux and I'm totally fed up with Windoze. I use Fedora and have found it quite a good learning curve. I also hope to come along on thursday evening. Neil

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Open Office and Word
by Bev Nicolson 10 Oct '07

10 Oct '07

I sent a document to someone recently and their machine kept crashing when they tried to put changes into it. (They use MS.) I've not had this problem before and I'm wondering exactly how compatible Open Office and Word are. What's your experience? Bev. -- _______________________________________________ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com Powered by Outblaze

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Preventing ouput mail from shell script
by Jenny Hopkins 10 Oct '07

10 Oct '07

Hullo there, I'm trying to prevent a very simple script in cron.hourly from sending mail when it executes. The script consists of mount -a > /dev/null I hoped the output would be directed to a black hole, but it sends a mail every hour as below. /etc/cron.hourly/checkmounts: mount: knossos:/home already mounted or /nfshome busy mount: xios:/home already mounted or /nfshome-xios busy run-parts: /etc/cron.hourly/checkmounts exited with return code 32 Is the only way to prevent mail output to make the script more complicated with exit codes and whatnot? Thanks, Jenny

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Why does Firefox always use UTF-8 for this page?
by Ross Fenning 10 Oct '07

10 Oct '07

On 10/10/2007, Greg Thomas <Greg(a)thethomashome.co.uk> wrote: > On 10/10/2007, Chris G <cl(a)isbd.net> wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 09:11:37AM +0100, Greg Thomas wrote: > > > > > > What you showed originally was the HTML setting the charset, with the line > > > > > > <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> > > > > > > This is embedded in the HTML, and overwritten by any content-type > > > presented in the HTTP headers, which is completely different. > > > > > > What is the CGI script written in? It probably has a line something like > > > > > > print "Content-Type: text/html\n"; > > > > > > change that to > > > > > > print "Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1\n"; > > > > > There's a line in the config file:- > > > > py["locale"] = "en_US.iso-8859-1" > > > > ... and there's also:- > > > > py["blog_encoding"] = "iso-8859-1" > > > > ... but the output from the browser is still obstinately defaulted to > > UTF-8. > > Is there a way you can examine the headers that the CGI script is > presenting without Apache getting in the way - with Perl you could > just run the script from the command line, and it would send the > output to stdout. Check and see if there is a content-type header > specifying the right charset. I suspect not. Googling turns up > http://www.python.org/doc/current/lib/cgi-intro.html which suggests > that the header is output explicitly ('print "Content-Type: > text/html"'). I use pyblosxom too and the issue there is that it's not just the one script for me; it's a whole series of python files and the content-type header is outputted in a dynamic way, i.e. there's no obvious place you can add in the encoding to the end of the header line. I tested with wget and my installation also seems to be sending charset=UTF-8 despite the pyblosxom config saying py["blog_encoding"] = "iso-8859-1". Either pyblosxom is ignoring it or it's not sending one at all and Apache is jumping in with the default charset. Perhaps pyblosxom needs some hacking to send the right headers. I tried to run it from the command line, but the script is too clever: when it runs from the command line, it goes into an "installation verification system" where it checks it's installed correctly. It only outputs HTML when run as a cgi from what I can tell. Ross

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Why does Firefox always use UTF-8 for this page?
by Chris G 10 Oct '07

10 Oct '07

I have a web page which has a couple of special characters which are ISO-8859-1 encoded, 'View Source' shows that the header is as follows:- <head> <title>Chris Info</title> <link rel="stylesheet" href="http://home.isbd.net/css/infowiki.css" type="text/css"> <link rel="alternate" type="application/xml" title="RSS" href="/blog/rss2.xml"> <link rel="top" href="/" title="pyblosxom.sourceforge.net"> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> </head> ... but when started up Firefox always sets the character encoding to "Unicode (UTF-8)" by default and to see the characters correctly I have to manually switch it to "Western (ISO-8859-1)". Is Firefox subtly trying to push me in the 'right' direction or, more realistically, what am I doing wrong? I have tried setting things to default to ISO-8859-1 in Firefox but I don't seem to be getting anywhere. -- Chris Green

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Re: [ALUG] Why does Firefox always use UTF-8 for this page?
by Matthew 10 Oct '07

10 Oct '07

> ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 19:10:03 +0100 > From: Chris G <cl(a)isbd.net> > Subject: Re: [ALUG] Why does Firefox always use UTF-8 for this page? > To: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > Message-ID: <20071009181003.GB59524@newred> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 06:40:47PM +0100, Chris G wrote: ... > However I'd really prefer to > keep the default Charset as UTF-8 and change it to ISO-8859-1 for just > the /home/chris/webdev/info hierarchy. > > But how do I do it? Adding a .htaccess file with "AddCharset > ISO-8859-1 .rst .txtl" to the directory /home/chris/webdev/info > doesn't seem to do anything, but that doesn't surprise me really > because I don't think my browser ever sees that .rst file. I also > tried:- > > <Directory /var/www/cgi-bin/pyblosxom.cgi> > AddCharset ISO-8859-1 .rst .txtl > AddDefaultCharset ISO-8859-1 > </Directory> I don't really understand the correspondence between your filesystem location and your URL-space one. Which are you trying to specify here? <Directory> is for filesystem locations, otherwise you want <Location>. As has been said, if it's a request to a CGI script you can set the headers in the script. You should probably do it that way if possible, because I'm sure headers set by CGI trump Apache's default Charset and I suspect also the specific sets. You may find that the script already sets a charset (CGI scripts are required to provide a Content-type: header, I think). Matthew

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Inserting a file into a telnet session
by ted.harding＠nessie.mcc.ac.uk 09 Oct '07

09 Oct '07

Hi Folks, Maybe someone knows how to so this! Say I'm logged in to a remote host in a telnet session. At a certain point, I would like to send the contents of a text file to the other end (as if I'd typed them in by hand). OK, in principle I could do this by opening the file in another xterm, and using the mouse to paste the lines into my telnet session. But in this instance I don't want to do that. What I'd really like to do is to be able to "break out" of the direct connection between my keyboard and the far end, and issue a local command to squirt said file down the line via the telnet session. And then break back in again. There doesn't seem to be any method of doing this with normal telnet (as far as I can make out from 'man telnet'). Any suggestions? (After all, one used to be able to do this kind of thing with kermit, when on dial-up via a serial port!) With thanks, and best wishes to all, Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <ted.harding(a)nessie.mcc.ac.uk> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date: 08-Oct-07 Time: 18:09:37 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------

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Flashplayer installation
by Bev Nicolson 09 Oct '07

09 Oct '07

Having trawled through the Ubuntu forums I came across this which looked like it would work to install Adobe Flashplayer (on Ubuntu Dapper 6.06LTS.) << First remove the old paste this in terminal sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree rm ~/.mozilla/plugins/*flash* then download and save the new to the desktop click the link and get Option 1: .tar.gz http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/downl...ShockwaveFlash now paste these commands in the terminal one line at a time and hit enter cd Desktop tar -xvzf install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz sudo mv install_flash_player_9_linux/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/ sudo mv install_flash_player_9_linux/flashplayer.xpt /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/ >> It's unpacked it and put an installation file on the desktop. However, when I get to the last line it announces that there is no destination file given as follows: mv: missing destination file operand after `install_flash_player_9_linux/flashplayerxpt/usr/lib/firefox/plugins/' I cannot find any reference to Firefox plugins within my Firefox browser (version 1.5.0.12) and this is where I imagine they would want to go, so I'm assuming I've missed something. Any help gratefully received. Bev. -- _______________________________________________ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com Powered by Outblaze

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Exim4 virtual hosts
by Richard Lewis 08 Oct '07

08 Oct '07

Hello ALUG, I mentioned this on #alug the other day, but I thought I'd just check to see if anyone else has any ideas regarding it - especially as I can go into more detail here. My mail setup on my server has broken. I'm using Exim's virtual host method to forward mail sent to the server to a couple of different places. In /etc/exim4/virtual I have files for the domains: /etc/exim4/virtual +- ariada.uea.ac.uk +- sara.uea.ac.uk +- studios.uea.ac.uk which contain rules like: admin : richard.lewis(a)uea.ac.uk * : :fail: Unknown recipient. Please direct general comments to comments(a)studios.uea.ac.uk I have the necessary config in 350_exim4-config_vdom_aliases and I have: domainlist local_domains = @:localhost:dsearch;/etc/exim4/virtual in 01_exim4-config_listmacrosdefs. I've configured Exim using dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config answering like this: 1) internet site; mail is sent and received directly using SMTP 2) System mail name: musariada.mus.uea.ac.uk 3) IP-addresses to listen on for incoming SMTP connections: 139.222.208.19 4) Other destinations for which mail is accepted: studios.uea.ac.uk; sara.uea.ac.uk; ariada.uea.ac.uk 5) Domains to relay mail for: none 6) Machines to relay mail for: none 7) Keep number of DNS-queries minimal: no 8) Delivery method for local mail: mbox format in /var/mail/ 9) Split configuration into small files? yes When I try to send mail to, e.g., events(a)studios.uea.ac.uk I get the following error in /var/log/exim4/mainlog 2007-10-08 10:07:54 no IP address found for host MAIN_RELAY_NETS (during SMTP connection from mailgate5.uea.ac.uk [139.222.130.185]) 2007-10-08 10:07:54 H=mailgate5.uea.ac.uk [139.222.130.185] F=<richardlewis(a)fastmail.co.uk> rejected RCPT <events(a)studios.uea.ac.uk>: Unrouteable address and I get an "undeliverable" message from the UEA mail server (see below). Does anyone know why my Exim is not forwarding mail correctly? I'm afraid I don't really understand email and consequently I don't know exactly what's wrong here. When a message is sent to, e.g., events(a)studios.uea.ac.uk, does it go to some uea.ac.uk server first (mailgate5.uea.ac.uk?) and then does this server attempt to begin an SMTP conversation with my server? If so, is my server engaging with it correctly? And why is my server rejecting mail? (/Is/ my server rejecting mail?) Is it because it can't forward it to richard.lewis(a)uea.ac.uk? If not, why not? When I first set this up (in June, I think) I'm sure it used to work. Someone on #alug suggested that sending mail to canonical domain names (which studios.uea.ac.uk is) is not a good idea? Could this be the problem? But if it is, why do I see evidence of a connection in my Exim log? Surely if it was not possible to send mail to CNAME domains, it wouldn't even begin a connection? Any information would be very much appreciated. Cheers, Richard -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Richard Lewis http://www.richard-lewis.me.uk/ JID: ironchicken(a)jabber.earth.li -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- +-------------------------------------------------------+ |Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.| |http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html | +-------------------------------------------------------+ > Return-Path: <> > X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on aquila > X-Spam-Level: > X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 > autolearn=ham version=3.2.1 > Delivered-To: unknown > Received: from mail.messagingengine.com (66.111.4.52) by aquila > with IMAP4; 08 Oct 2007 09:10:04 -0000 > Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.internal > [10.202.2.41]) by store11m.internal (Cyrus v2.3.9-fmsvn12891) > with LMTPA; Mon, 08 Oct 2007 05:07:56 -0400 > X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.3 > X-Resolved-to: richardlewis(a)fastmail.co.uk > X-Delivered-to: richardlewis(a)fastmail.co.uk > X-Mail-from: > Received: from mx2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.201]) > by compute1.internal (LMTPProxy); Mon, 08 Oct 2007 05:07:56 > -0400 Received: from mailgate5.uea.ac.uk (mailgate5.uea.ac.uk > [139.222.130.185]) by mx2.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with > ESMTP id D97521DE10A for <richardlewis(a)fastmail.co.uk>; Mon, 8 > Oct 2007 05:07:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from eximuea by > mailgate5.uea.ac.uk with local (Exim 4.50) id 1Ieoag-0003rn-Fe > for richardlewis(a)fastmail.co.uk; Mon, 08 Oct 2007 10:07:54 +0100 > X-Failed-Recipients: events(a)studios.uea.ac.uk > Auto-Submitted: auto-generated > From: Mail Delivery System <Mailer-Daemon(a)uea.ac.uk> > To: richardlewis(a)fastmail.co.uk > Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender > Message-Id: <E1Ieoag-0003rn-Fe(a)mailgate5.uea.ac.uk> > Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 10:07:54 +0100 > X-Length: 3185 > X-UID: 1742 > > This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. > > A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of > its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following > address(es) failed: > > events(a)studios.uea.ac.uk > SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT > TO:<events(a)studios.uea.ac.uk>: host musariada.mus.uea.ac.uk > [139.222.208.19]: > 550 Unrouteable address > > ------ This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. > ------ > > Return-path: <richardlewis(a)fastmail.co.uk> > Received: from [139.222.131.82] (helo=ueams4) > by mailgate5.uea.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.50) > id 1IeoaU-0003mk-AU > for events(a)studios.uea.ac.uk; Mon, 08 Oct 2007 10:07:54 +0100 > Received: from [139.222.208.38] (helo=rjl.mus.uea.ac.uk) > by ueams4 with esmtp (Exim 4.66) > (envelope-from <richardlewis(a)fastmail.co.uk>) > id 1IeoaU-00046I-6a > for events(a)studios.uea.ac.uk; Mon, 08 Oct 2007 10:07:42 +0100 > From: Richard Lewis <richardlewis(a)fastmail.co.uk> > To: events(a)studios.uea.ac.uk > Subject: TEST > Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 10:07:40 +0100 > User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="utf-8" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Disposition: inline > Message-Id: <200710081007.41262.richardlewis(a)fastmail.co.uk> > X-UEA-Spam-Score: -2.8 > X-UEA-Spam-Level: -- > X-UEA-Spam-Flag: NO > > TEST > -- > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > Richard Lewis > http://www.richard-lewis.me.uk/ > JID: ironchicken(a)jabber.earth.li > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > +-------------------------------------------------------+ > |Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.| > |http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html | > +-------------------------------------------------------+

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Postfix problems - local email has stopped
by Barry Samuels 08 Oct '07

08 Oct '07

I was trying to enable SASL support for Postfix but couldn't get it to work and have now tried to disable it again and although outside mail still seems to be arriving local mail is stuck in the queue. Postfix -p gives: -Queue ID- --Size-- ----Arrival Time---- -Sender/Recipient------- 0C8EF34FA4 1892 Mon Oct 8 14:02:04 logcheck@mydomain (mail transport unavailable) barry@mydomain Nothing I've done will shift this. If I restart Postfix I get this in syslog: postfix/master[9161]: daemon started -- version 2.4.5, configuration etc/postfix postfix/postfix-script[9182]: refreshing the Postfix mail system postfix/master[9161]: reload configuration /etc/postfix postfix/qmgr[9188]: 0C8EF34FA4: from=<logcheck@mydomain>, size=1892, nrcpt=1 (queue active) postfix/smtp[9198]: fatal: garbage after numerical service in server description: [127.0.0.1]:10024 smtp_sasl_auth_enable = yes smtp_sasl_password_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sasl_passwd postfix/qmgr[9188]: warning: private/smtp-amavis socket: malformed response postfix/qmgr[9188]: warning: transport smtp-amavis failure -- see a previous warning/fatal/panic logfile record for the problem description postfix/qmgr[9188]: warning: connect to transport retry: No such file or directory postfix/master[9161]: warning: process /usr/lib/postfix/smtp pid 9198 exit status 1 postfix/master[9161]: warning: /usr/lib/postfix/smtp: bad command startup -- throttling Some emergency help would be appreciated. -- Barry Samuels http://www.beenthere-donethat.org.uk The Unofficial Guide to Great Britain

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