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Re: [ALUG] Pinebook Pro
by Chris Green 03 Oct '20

03 Oct '20

On Sat, Oct 03, 2020 at 10:38:48AM +0100, Phil Thane wrote: > On 03/10/2020 09:26, Chris Green wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 03, 2020 at 09:18:29AM +0100, Mark Rogers wrote: > > > On Sat, 3 Oct 2020 at 08:46, Chris Green <cl(a)isbd.net> wrote: > > > > Do you *really* need any/all of those apps? [...] > > > > > > > > Everthing else is on the laptop. > > > Each to their own, obviously, but these days I increasingly ask myself > > > if I need the laptop; there isn't anything I can't do on the phone, > > > and plenty I often can't do on the laptop for the simple reason it's > > > not with me at the time I want to do it. (Much like the best camera is > > > usually the one you have with you, I find the same with laptop > > > functions.) > > > > > Yes, I can understand that. However when I see other members of my > > family (all younger than me) struggling to reply to E-Mail on their > > phones or trying to buy things on line I realise why (for me) the > > laptop is so much faster and easier. > > > > It's the 'unix philosphy' use small dedicated 'things' each good at > > what they do. :-) I have a digital camera which is pocketable but > > is *way* better than even the best smartphone camera and it's a > > fraction of the price (proper viewfinder, 30:1 zoom, etc.). > > > There's also the online banking app which works on the phone to generate a > code to login on the PC. > Works perfectly on a feature phone like mine, it's just an SMS message. -- Chris Green

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Re: [ALUG] Pinebook Pro
by Chris Green 03 Oct '20

03 Oct '20

On Sat, Oct 03, 2020 at 10:57:19AM +0100, Phil Thane wrote: > > On 03/10/2020 08:45, Chris Green wrote: > > Do you*really* need any/all of those apps? > > I don't actually have many, my personal take is that most ought never to > have been developed when you could achieve much the same via the web. But > companies like apps because they have more control and harvest more data so > some things are hard or even impossible unless you cave in and get the app. > And some odd, niche things really do need them. For example I have OSMand > (satnav based on OSM). I have had, but lost when I upgraded, a canal/river > satnav app with useful info for boaters. I'll reinstall when I go away next > year (Covid willing). I have used a phone tracker app to upload details of > my solo trips for friends and family to keep a track of where I am. As per > previous mail there's online banking too. > A phone is too easily lost or stolen IMHO to be safe for personal banking. > Some of the other apps (Nextcloud for example) could be replaced by the > desktop versions on Linux, but I'm not sure how they'd scale to fit the > screen. And the functions are different, Nextcloud on the desktop is chiefly > designed for syncing files. On a phone that'd be mad because the multi-GB > server isn't going to sync with a phone. The phone app is mostly for syncing > contacts, calendar, downloading files when needed rather than syncing > everything. But I don't have contacts or calendar on my phone so there's no point in syncing them. I so rarely have my phone with me or turned on that calendar in particular would be pointless. I have a calendar on my laptop which is on almost all the time, and with me. > It also has an Instant Upload function so (given a data > connection) photos are uploaded to the server within seconds of taking them. > Useful for an oaf who might at any time fall in the water! > As I said I don't use the camera on my phone, I have a much, much, much better camera in my pocket more often than the phone. -- Chris Green

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Pinebook Pro
by Phil Thane 03 Oct '20

03 Oct '20

Hello Lugs, Pinebook Pro still going well. Issues so far: Changed OS to Manjaro with KDE (default on newer releases). Built-in speakers are tiny, therefore tinny. They were stupidly quite too until I discovered you can use KDE settings to crank up volume. Currently run them at 150%. Earphones OK at 100%. Then app vol sliders work OK. Zoom app not available and Zoom web won't work on FF. Does work on Chromium but is a bit flaky. KDE themes don't always work, fail during install. Maybe some rely on dependancies not ported to Arm64. Struggling to find my ideal KDE theme. AFAIK a light, transparent panel also means a transparent app launcher which is unreadable when it pops over a window with text in. Opaque panels look a bit clunky and I don't like dark themes. Will carry on looking. Sleep mode works but battery consumption whilst asleep is too high. I shut down if I expect to leave it more than an hour or two. Still think it was a good buy. I've been following development of PinePhone too. As with Pineboook the prototyping is being done openly with early adopter versions for software devs released a while ago. There are about 6 OS projects being ported but only one is Android (AOSP) based. The others are 'pure' Linux eg UBports. It's tempting but so much these days relies on mobile apps and there aren't going to be many of them for Linux OSs. Any thoughts anyone? -- Phil Thane Tweet @pthane www.pthane.co.uk 01767 449759 07582 750607

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weird website
by Phil Thane 28 Sep '20

28 Sep '20

Here's an odd one, probably not a Linux issue but I am using Mint + Firefox and I guess the site is on LAMP so it's Linux-ish... I'm trying to buy some hardware from https://www.ironmongerydirect.co.uk <https://www.ironmongerydirect.co.uk> There was >£50 of bits in the basket and I went to Checkout. The site asked me to log in or register, so I registered. Firefox gave me a random secure password to use and saved it for me. So far, so normal. Now I'm back at the home page with the total still showing in my basket. But the 'My Basket' button doesn't work. Neither does Contact or 'Hi Phil' (My Account on sensible sites!) I'm sure you all now that on FF hovering over a link shows the real destination. Hovering over these buttons shows the link is to the current page. I can use the main menu to choose other pages in the catalogue but those three buttons always link to the current page. So all they do is refresh the page. This means not only can I not return to the checkout, I can't even logout via 'Hi Phil' I've tried closing all the pages then starting again, but FF helpfully remembers the password and logs me in again, with the same issue. I even deleted the saved login from FF, but I still get logged in automatically. Is there some magic way to log out of a disfunctional site? -- Phil Thane www.pthane.co.uk Tweet @pthane 01767 449759 07582 750607

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NHS Covid app
by Phil Thane 28 Sep '20

28 Sep '20

You may not: ...use the NHS App Native Version on any device or operating system that has been modified outside the mobile device or operating system vendor supported or warranted configurations. This includes devices that have been "jail-broken" or "rooted". That's me an my LineageOS phone out then. -- Phil Thane www.pthane.co.uk Tweet @pthane 01767 449759 07582 750607

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Covid 19 app?
by Phil Thane 27 Sep '20

27 Sep '20

Hello, I've gone to some effort to install LineageOS on my phone and remove all Google accounts. The UK Covid 19 app is unlikely I would think to ever be OSS and available on Fdroid (obvs it should, other countries have make OSS apps). So would anyone with a conventional Android phone who intends to install the app be prepared to make an APK file for me to sideload? -- Phil Thane www.pthane.co.uk Tweet @pthane 01767 449759 07582 750607

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Printer sharing gone wrong(2)
by Phil Thane 19 Sep '20

19 Sep '20

Cancel previous, it works. First on PC connected to printer go to KDE printer settings and enable sharing in menu, not on tick box which is greyed out. Second on client PC (also KDE) ignore 'discovered printer' and go through set up new printer. Which it discovers all over again, but works. Weird! -- Phil Thane www.pthane.co.uk Tweet @pthane 01767 449759 07582 750607

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Printer
by Phil Thane 19 Sep '20

19 Sep '20

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Printer sharing gone wrong
by Phil Thane 19 Sep '20

19 Sep '20

Hello, Can anyone advise on CUPS? Wife and I have two PCs in the study, both Linux. For years we have had the printer plugged into hers via USB and Shared via CUPS setup so I can use it occasionally. It has worked like that through several changes of disro on both machines and one house move. But now it doesn't. It still prints OK from her machine but mine can't 'see' it at all. On CUPS (web interface) on Linda's machine if I go to Administration > Modify Printer there is a checkbox to 'Share this Printer' It's checked (ie blue). If I go to Printers on the menu bar and click the link to the printer in question (we've only got one) the status line says 'Not Shared'. Which probably explains why I can't print. Any suggestions? (KDE printer set up doesn't help either). -- Phil Thane www.pthane.co.uk Tweet @pthane 01767 449759 07582 750607

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Printing speeds, Linux vs Windows
by Mark Rogers 04 Sep '20

04 Sep '20

If I have a large file to print, on Linux it can takes ages spooling - hours even - where on Windows it can be printing in seconds. I've noticed this many times over the years, on all types of printer I've had use of. (Large typically means graphical, eg I tried printing a 2 page A3 PDF as my Windows PC was offline, and I managed to rebuild my Windows PC, transfer the file and be ready to print before I hear a peep from the printer, and on cancelling the Linux print, Windows had the printer clunking away a few seconds later.) Is there a good reason for this? Is it just me? -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0844 251 1450 Registered in England (0456 0902) 21 Drakes Mews, Milton Keynes, MK8 0ER

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