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Website Plans
by Simon Elliott 18 Jul '06

18 Jul '06

Hello all, So, myself and Dave have agreed to take over looking after the Alug website. We've had a talk and our plans are something along the lines of the following; - Get rid of all old and out-dated content. - Possibility of using Django if hosting is available. - Have a "community" section for stuff like the Planet etc. - A more formal part of the site for new people. - Keep the site more centralised - Have part wiki, part static kept up to date by us. If anyone has any ideas or suggestions, let us know! -Simon

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Brett Parker 17 Jul '06

17 Jul '06

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. Historically, these used to be the only time a lot of us would be about, now the channel has some usual faces that are there most of the time (except at silly o'clock, when we might be sleeping, or on the second thursday of the month, where we might be drinking in the Reindeer), so don't feel limited to visit during this time, come visit us when ever you feel like it! The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.alug.org.uk in the #alug channel. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server irc.alug.org.uk" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include xchat, irssi and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://www.irssi.org/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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Re: [ALUG] Website Plans
by Christopher Dawkins 14 Jul '06

14 Jul '06

> We've had a talk and our plans are something along the lines of the > following; > > - Get rid of all old and out-dated content. Instead of "Get rid of" how about "move down to a subdirectory called something like "old". Then over the next thousand years this can be developed into subdirectories for each decade or century - at any rate, a new one each time the site is redesigned. Our modern trend for "get rid of" causes so much landfill. Let's think of "preservation" instead. Today's boring records become interesting archives a century or two later. -- Christopher Dawkins Garnetts Corner, Braintree Road, Felsted, Dunmow, Essex CM6 3DS cchd(a)pjcd.org 07816 821659 01371 821076

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Password security, Firefox, etc.
by chrisisbd＠leary.csoft.net 14 Jul '06

14 Jul '06

I'm still kicking around ways of remembering/storing passwords and would be pleased to hear any comments on my ideas. First question - how good is the Firefox 'Master password' approach? I run Firefox on two fairly safe/secure systems, one at home and one at work. None of the passwords I could (but don't at present) allow Firefox to save for me is really important but they would control access to things like Web site set up, E-Mail forwarding, zone files and such. The E-Mail in particular is important because my wife's freelance work depends on it (hence my recent questions about hosting). I am a bit wary of relying totally on Firefox, it doesn't give me warm feelings to rely on a 'black box' to save my passwords. On the other hand it would make setting up simple web pages with links to access configuration sites much simpler. What do others think about this? For more important stuff (bank access passwords etc.) I have a simple vi encrypted file which I open and decrypt in a small window by my browser. OK, I'm relying on vi/crypt but that is so unversally available that all I really need to worry about is keeping a secure copy of the file. I think it's pretty secure against most simple cracking approaches, the password is a good quality one and although the encryption algorithm isn't the best it's "good enough". -- Chris Green (chrisisbd(a)leary.csoft.net)

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Re: [ALUG] www.alug - request for adoption
by Simon 13 Jul '06

13 Jul '06

Hello all, I will adopt the site, unless anyone else desperately wants to.. As some people know, I've just finished my first year of university so I've got nothing else to do at the moment. ;) I'll bring the site up to speed with current affairs and do a general spring (or summer) clean and take it from there. -Simon MJ Ray wrote: > Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 11:40:56 +0100 From: MJ Ray > <mjr(a)phonecoop.coop> Subject: [ALUG] www.alug - request for adoption > To: <main(a)lists.alug.org.uk> Message-ID: > <E1G0Ffk-0008Vo-00(a)pipe.localnet.towers.org.uk> As some of you know, > the time I have for ALUG is shrinking again. So, I am looking for > someone to take over www.alug. As most of the other contributors or > likely suspects either already do multiple tasks for ALUG or have left > the area, I'm asking the list first. Personally, I'd prefer new local > help. Hope that's OK. Let the list know what you will do with the site > how and when, everyone argue (politely) for a few days and then let's > see if there's one person agreed on to take it forwards. If there's > any questions about the current html/ssh/cgi/ftp setup (as that may > affect the decision), let me know and I'll answer if no-one beats me > to it. If there's wild disagreement, the hidden powers will make a > random decision and see if it sticks. ;-) Thanks, > --

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Re: [ALUG] www.alug - request for adoption
by John Seago 12 Jul '06

12 Jul '06

On Wednesday 12 July 2006 12:00 Simon <simon(a)sionide.net> wrote: > Hello all, > > I will adopt the site, unless anyone else desperately wants to.. As some > people know, I've just finished my first year of university so I've got > nothing else to do at the moment. ;) I'll bring the site up to speed > with current affairs and do a general spring (or summer) clean and take > it from there. What happens when you finish University? Will we be back at the same point in another 2 years? -- John Seago GNU/Linux Registered User No. #219566 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html mail /\ - against microsoft attachments

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www.alug - request for adoption
by MJ Ray 11 Jul '06

11 Jul '06

As some of you know, the time I have for ALUG is shrinking again. So, I am looking for someone to take over www.alug. As most of the other contributors or likely suspects either already do multiple tasks for ALUG or have left the area, I'm asking the list first. Personally, I'd prefer new local help. Hope that's OK. Let the list know what you will do with the site how and when, everyone argue (politely) for a few days and then let's see if there's one person agreed on to take it forwards. If there's any questions about the current html/ssh/cgi/ftp setup (as that may affect the decision), let me know and I'll answer if no-one beats me to it. If there's wild disagreement, the hidden powers will make a random decision and see if it sticks. ;-) Thanks, -- MJ Ray - personal email, see http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html Work: http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ irc.oftc.net/slef Jabber/SIP ask

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[ALUG Announce] 2nd Thursday Norwich Meet : Reindeer, Dereham Road
by Jonathan McDowell 10 Jul '06

10 Jul '06

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- The monthly "Second Thursday" ALUG Norwich Pub Meet is this Thursday, 13th July. It's at the Reindeer pub on the Dereham Road, just opposite the City Gate. People will be there from 8pm-ish, though there may be a few people there earlier. I may be a little late myself. Topics for discussion will no doubt be as varied as ever. The Reindeer has a reasonable selection of beer as well as decent coffee (with biscuits, if you're lucky). Directions to the Reindeer can be found at: http://www.alug.org.uk/venues/reindeer.html Pictures of some of the regulars, and irregulars, and, well, just some pictures of people that might or might not turn up are available from: http://www.earth.li/~noodles/Photos/2006-02-ALUG/ http://the.earth.li/~noodles/stilvoid-alug/mp20050811/ http://www.earth.li/~noodles/Photos/2005-01-ALUG-Xmas/ http://www.earth.li/~noodles/Photos/2004-08-ALUG/ Which should hopefully aid those of you wondering who to look out for. We're /normally/ just to the left of the main entrance, though sometimes we've ended up at the far end of the pub beside the pool table, as there are comfy seats at that end. J. -- noodles is the only noodle house in cleveland ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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Mail hosting recommendations wanted
by chrisisbd＠leary.csoft.net 10 Jul '06

10 Jul '06

My present web hosting is becoming a bit iffy, the web hosting isn't very important but Maxine relies on the mail for her business so I'm looking for alternatives. What I'm after is:- Hosting one domain, basically for E-Mail but very basic web hosting would be welcome too (domain I already own, either isbd.net or isbd.co.uk). Unlimited POP3 and IMAP mailboxes for the hosted domain. Ideally Linux/Unix shell login but at the very least web based management for the E-Mail. Web mail access to the mailboxes. A *lot* of space for E-Mail, several hundred megabytes at the very least, don't mind buying this as an extra but it has to be reasonably cheap. Prefer UK based because I feel that it will be marginally quicker, I'm willing to be dissuaded though. I'm happy to pay a reasonable amount for this but not a silly amount, i.e. I think anything more than around £100/year is definitely excessive. Places I've considered are:- Areti Internet (because I know their support etc. is excellent), but too expensive really, especially £30 per IMAP and £80 per year for an additional 100MB. Gradwell, good reputation but moderately expensive. Do it myself on my Slackware Linux box at home, very cheap! However there are support issues (i.e. my time) and I don't get the warm feeling of mail being backed up 'off site'. csoft.net which I currently use for my own E-Mail, reasonable price (I'd step up from my current $60/year to $120/year to get a domain hosted) and support is good so far. The $120/year account includes 2Gb of disk space which is more than ample! However they are in Canada. A company similar to Csoft based in the UK would be my perfect solution, they appear to be a techie company which has learned how to sell itself as well. -- Chris Green (chrisisbd(a)leary.csoft.net)

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Brett Parker 10 Jul '06

10 Jul '06

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. Historically, these used to be the only time a lot of us would be about, now the channel has some usual faces that are there most of the time (except at silly o'clock, when we might be sleeping, or on the second thursday of the month, where we might be drinking in the Reindeer), so don't feel limited to visit during this time, come visit us when ever you feel like it! The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.alug.org.uk in the #alug channel. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server irc.alug.org.uk" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include xchat, irssi and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://www.irssi.org/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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