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Re: [ALUG] So where do I start then?
by John Seago 20 Jul '04

20 Jul '04

Further to my earlier post on this matter, I will put something in the uk.local East Anglian and uk.local Essex, with a view to eliciting a response to the ALUG main list. -- John Seago Linux User #219566 (http://counter.li.org)

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Linspire (Lindows) "Light my fire" Parody
by kpwatson＠pop3.ukfsn.org 20 Jul '04

20 Jul '04

Gotta see and hear this; <http://www.linspire.com/RunLinspireFlash.php>

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Re: [ALUG] So where do I start then?
by John Seago 20 Jul '04

20 Jul '04

On Tuesday 20 Jul 2004 06:25, Steve Purkiss <bnmlist(a)open4.org> wrote: > > Met Chris from frugalIT in Witham the other night at my A12 business > networking club meeting and he said would be good to set something up > for the - let's say "lower" regions of East Anglia - Norwich is a bit > too far and Southend is an entirely different world to Chelmsford. > > So, where do I start then? Do I buy a domain or set up a subdomain? > Anyone wanna point me in the right direction? > > I may not be a sysadmin wizard but I'll help all I can to set up and > run... > > I'm planning a "training" event for ecademy sometime in the next month > or two so may just slip Linux on all the machines and run a dual event. > At the end of the day, all that is needed is a web browser to run > ecademy so why not?! > > Steve Purkiss I would have thought that it depends on whether this is an extension South of ALUG, or the construction of ELUG. The former may make an easer start, which can be developed into something else if there is a big enough base, later. The ALUG Web site is already there, along with this mailing list. It looks as though all you really need to do is find the bodies and perhaps when you think you've got enough organise a meeting for them. Whilst it may seem a long way to go perhaps attending the ALUG Barbecue may give you an idea of what works further North. -- John Seago Linux User #219566 (http://counter.li.org)

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So where do I start then?
by Steve Purkiss 20 Jul '04

20 Jul '04

Met Chris from frugalIT in Witham the other night at my A12 business networking club meeting and he said would be good to set something up for the - let's say "lower" regions of East Anglia - Norwich is a bit too far and Southend is an entirely different world to Chelmsford. So, where do I start then? Do I buy a domain or set up a subdomain? Anyone wanna point me in the right direction? I may not be a sysadmin wizard but I'll help all I can to set up and run... I'm planning a "training" event for ecademy sometime in the next month or two so may just slip Linux on all the machines and run a dual event. At the end of the day, all that is needed is a web browser to run ecademy so why not?! Steve Purkiss -- Open for Organisations supporting open source software http://www.open4.org/

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Problem delivering local mail
by Ian Douglas 19 Jul '04

19 Jul '04

Hi Folks, I am having trouble sending mail to other users on my PC. I used to me able to type "mail tux" at the shell prompt and create a mail which was delivered to user "tux" on my local PC but can no longer do this. Now if I try and send mail to local user "tux" then something on my system is incorrectly expanding the "To" address to tux(a)uk2.net (uk2 is my ISP) and sending it to my ISPs SMTP server, rather than simply putting it in tux's local inbox. My message to my local user therefore gets bounced back by UK2 as undeliverable (i.e mail to local users is now being treated as mail for remote users and leaves my PC rather than remaining on it and being instantly put in their local mailbox). If I try and send mail to my local user "tux" by quoting the full name of the local PC after his username: tux(a)bobbin.haberdashery.willowwindmill.net it again leaves my PC and is sent to my ISPs SMTP mailserver and is bounced back as undeliverable. I have copied the full text of the error messages I am getting onto the following webpage rather than appending them to this message: www.k1ngph1cher.uklinux.net/bobbinmailerrors.htm I guess I must have misconfigured something but am unsure what and don't know which files I need to edit to correct this. What do I need to tweak so that mail for local users is routed locally within my PC instead of being sent externally via my ISP? In case it is relevant the particular PC concerned (bobbin.haberdashery.willowwindmill.net) is running Slackware 10.0 Second question: Because of my mail delivery tests I now appear to have several test mail messages stuck in a mail queue somewhere on my PC. How do I delete all these duff messages from the mail queue so I can start sending valid emails again? Ta muchly! Ian.

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 19 Jul '04

19 Jul '04

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.alug.org.uk in the #alug channel. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server irc.alug.org.uk" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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gtoaster
by Ted.Harding＠nessie.mcc.ac.uk 17 Jul '04

17 Jul '04

Hi Folks, I'm experimenting with gtoaster (can use xcdroast OK but interested by this other program). All I'm trying to do at the moment is to write a backup copy of my home directory ( /home/ted ) to CD. However, I'm up against a blank wall at one point, and I'd be grateful if anyone can help me past it. 1. Startup gtoaster -- OK 2. In top left-hand panel, click "+" of "Unix Tree" to expand it -- OK 3. Click on "+" of "home" to expand it -- OK 4. "Drag&drop" "ted" into borrom RH panel -- OK (list of files flashes by) 5. Bottom LH panel has an item "CDROM" whose "+" expands to "ted" which in turn expands to the files in /home/ted. So far so good, apparently. However, at the bottom is "Fillstate 0MB/ 746<B" and there seems to be nothing I can do to get it to recognise that there's 488MB in the filesystem /home/ted. Also, on the lower RH panel, all it says is "ted 4096 bytes" which is just the size of the directory stub itself, not of its contents. Gtoaster will now allow me to write a CD, but all it contains is the directory stub. So that's my blank wall: I want to climb past this so that it actually writes the files under /home/ted to the CD, and I can't for the life of me see what the trick is! Nor does the documentation help. gtoaster-1.0beta6 on Red Hat 9.1 So all suggestions gratefully received. Best wishes to all, Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <Ted.Harding(a)nessie.mcc.ac.uk> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 167 1972 Date: 17-Jul-04 Time: 23:03:38 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------

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Coming down to earth
by Bryce Martin 16 Jul '04

16 Jul '04

Hello, I would like to extend the discussion about weekend trials or expositions of various equipment or software. I consider myself to be an ordinary modern linux user that struggles with the most basic problems of everyday useage. I don't want to list the most common difficulties that face the 'ordinary (none technical) user' because I don't know what they might be, but plugins for the very popular browsers konqueror and mozilla 1.7 could possibly be dealt with via the alug mailing list. I don't just mean refering users to a web site, which could be a good thing, but actually creating emails that show 'step by step' how to install a certain plugin or other task. Our top exponents of linux might enjoy writing these postings. Documentation relating to linux across the board is poor, in my opinion. Could we as a user group make a difference to this problem of documentation by helping with a (very loosely) structured education program that is conducted via the alug mailing list? The mailing list serves the really knowledgable linux users quite well in a conversational way, but now that linux is so much more mainstream, it would be nice to punctuate these savvy conversations with (possibly) regular(ish) instruction on the basics of linux. We could focus on the most basic configuration tasks via our mailing list to help NEW users of linux, and still enjoy the very stimulating discussions of experienced users. I would enjoy reading the unsolicited configurational instruction of an experienced user that was posted to the list on more BASIC topics. It could become normal practice. It can't hurt, but would take a little effort admittedly. Kind regards, Bryce. ___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - sooooo many all-new ways to express yourself http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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External CD-RW for laptop?
by Ted.Harding＠nessie.mcc.ac.uk 15 Jul '04

15 Jul '04

Hi Folks, Has anyone any comments on possibilities for external CD-RW units for attaching to a laptop? DVD support is not needed, but if inevitable in order to have CD-RW then so be it. All I'm really interested in is writing CDs (there's already an internal CRDOM reader). I suppose USB is the way to go. One thing I'm (perhaps too theoretically) concerned about: To write a CD, the unit will need power which would be drawn from the laptop (unless the unit has an external power supply). Any known issues about this aspect of the matter? Might the laptop not be able to cope with the power demand? Any other issues? Total ignoramus here! Thanks, Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <Ted.Harding(a)nessie.mcc.ac.uk> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 167 1972 Date: 15-Jul-04 Time: 13:46:05 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------

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Problem configuring procmail
by Ian Douglas 14 Jul '04

14 Jul '04

Hi Folks, I am having a bit of hassle configuring procmail. I have created a test user called tux and have confirmed I can send mail to him. I have then created a /home/tux/.procmailrc file containing: [tux@alice tux]$ cat .procmailrc VERBOSE=on MAILDIR=$HOME/mail PMDIR=$HOME/.procmail LOGFILE=$PMDIR/log INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rc.testing I have also created a /home/tux/.procmail directory and created a rc.testing file in it containing: [tux@alice tux]$ cat ~/.procmail/rc.testing :0: * ^Subject:.*HOT SPAM.HOT I then created a /home/tux/.forward file (which I copied from a book and don't understand) containing: [tux@alice tux]$ cat ~/.forward "|IFS=' ' && exec /usr/bin/procmail -f || exec 75 tux" If however I try to send tux an email I get an error email back containing the following: ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- "|IFS=' ' && exec /usr/bin/procmail -f || exec 75 tux" (expanded from: tux) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- sh: cannot use & in command 554 "|IFS=' ' && exec /usr/bin/procmail -f || exec 75 tux"... Service unavailable Do any ALUGers have any experience of configuring procmail and can help me suss out a correct ~/.forward file to invoke it? Ta muchly! Ian.

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