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cups server problem
by Jenny Hopkins 01 Dec '03

01 Dec '03

Hi List, Are there any CUPS experts out there? I tried to set up cups printing system last night, but when I try and print a test page from the webadmin page on the localhost it prints the first top half-inch of "This is a test page" in inch-high letters then grinds to a halt and just sits there. Thanks, jenny

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Playing DVDs with Linux using Ogle
by Ian Douglas 01 Dec '03

01 Dec '03

Hi folks, I thought I would have a go at trying to get my PC to play DVDs this weekend so I done an apt-get install ogle-mmx ogle-gui then ran install-css.sh and linked /dev/dvd to /dev/hdc. If I type "ogle" I get the ogle gui appear and I get the following console errors: Note[ogle_ctrl]: ogle 0.8.2 Debug[ogle_ctrl]: Started /usr/lib/ogle/ogle_gui with pid 4483 warning: failed to load external entity "/home/ian/.oglerc" WARNING[ogle_gui]: Couldn't load config file WARNING[ogle_gui]: interpret_config(): Couldn't read '/home/ian/.oglerc' Debug[ogle_ctrl]: Started /usr/lib/ogle/ogle_nav with pid 4484 warning: failed to load external entity "/home/ian/.oglerc" WARNING[ogle_nav]: Couldn't load config file WARNING[ogle_nav]: interpret_config(): Couldn't read '/home/ian/.oglerc' Debug[ogle_ctrl]: Started /usr/lib/ogle/ogle_mpeg_ps with pid 4485 Debug[ogle_ctrl]: Started /usr/lib/ogle/ogle_vout with pid 4486 However if I then click on FILE and OPEN DSC the following appears: libdvdcss error: failed opening device libdvdread: Can't open /dev/dvd for reading. vm: faild to open/read the DVD Debug[ogle_ctrl]: child: 4484 exited with 1 Debug[ogle_ctrl]: pid: 4484 exited with status: 1 Debug[ogle_ctrl]: child: 4486 killed Debug[ogle_ctrl]: pid: 4486 terminated on signal: 2 Debug[ogle_ctrl]: child: 4485 killed Debug[ogle_ctrl]: pid: 4485 terminated on signal: 2 Debug[ogle_ctrl]: child: 4483 killed Debug[ogle_ctrl]: pid: 4483 terminated on signal: 2 Debug[ogle_ctrl]: removing shmid: 10616832 Note[ogle_ctrl]: exiting ian@rhino:~$ I am confused.... why is ogle unable to open /dev/dvd? Ian.

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 01 Dec '03

01 Dec '03

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.alug.org.uk in the #alug channel. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server irc.alug.org.uk" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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Given the talk of lurkers...
by Owain Sutton 01 Dec '03

01 Dec '03

....thought I'd introduce myself New to Linux, arriving here for various reasons, but the main one is being unable to trust MS with anything remotely secure.... Desperatly wishing I could claim that OpenOffice is better than MS Office, but I can't, sorry. Internet Explorer, on the other hand, deserved retirement a long time ago. In short, I guess I'm hoping that a dual boot box will give me the best of both worlds in the short and medium term (yes, unfortunately there's some software I need which is Windows-only). Anyway, that's my ambivalent position stated :D ....btw count me out of most meetings, because Woodbridge without a car is not fun :S

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Fedora - what's in a name?
by Ben Francis 30 Nov '03

30 Nov '03

It seems RedHat didn't do their research very well when choosing a name for their new project. Is this going to cause any serious problems? http://www.fedora.info/fedora.shtml Building their brand could be quite difficult when it happens to be someone elses... -- Ben "tola" Francis 00101010 tola ^/. http://hippygeek.co.uk mailto://tola_at_imen.org.uk opinions expressed are of the voices in my head only

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Re: [ALUG] Names and topics
by Edenyard 30 Nov '03

30 Nov '03

MJR wrote: > > I want the lurkers to speak up. We have 250 addresses getting copies > of this. Even if we assume that all the meeting venues get different > people (definitely untrue IMO), that means we only see about three > dozen of them to talk with. How do we get the other seven-eighths > involved? > Alright, then! I didn't think I had anything useful to add to this thread, but because MJR wrote the above and I have a lot of respect for what he writes, I'll attempt to add in my tuppence. Why don't 'the others' get involved? I can only share my experiences. I run a Linux system, from which I have learnt a lot but I've only scratched the surface, as things go, and I still need lots of help. One area in which I really do need help just now is in getting a good video card. I posted a message about this and, when I saw all those digests waiting to be read earlier today, I felt sure that the answer to my question would be in there. But no! Nothing! What? Does nobody else on this list use a video card? Or have I not used the correct incantation to get a response? So how come no-one had ANYTHING to say on this subject? Now this isn't, by any means, the first time I've had this experience on this list. Maybe I'm not alone (I'll assume that I'm not singled out for this treatment), so if others have had this experience with ALUG (or any LUG, really), then maybe it's not so surprising that lots of would-be members don't participate as much as would be desired. Right - I suppose you'll want to excommunicate me after that contribution.... Cheers, Gerald.

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Re: Jamming the network
by Christopher Dawkins 30 Nov '03

30 Nov '03

>> And to ask you who else has come across the danger to corporate >> networks posed by the convenience of auto-crossover ports. > I had this at a middle school I do work for, One little darling student > did exactly this. <snip> > It is annoying that such a thing can happen, but to be honest it's no > worse than in the old days of a missing t-piece or a cable fault, > bringing down a whole coax lan. True, those were the days. But the Base-T system has been so comparatively rock-solid reliable and proof against all the problems we used to have that it has been a shock to find that it is so easily compromised. And the problem has only arisen with the more recent equipment! > You should be using spanning tree protocol (sometimes called spamming > tree protocol when it breaks) which should allow these kind of redundant > links that you are creating. Indeed redundant links should be/are a good > thing. Yes, redundant links are, I am building up a number, and I have looked at STP. The main reason I haven't used it is that I prefer the idea of subnets, routed, RIP and routers instead: routers based on multi-port FreeBSD boxes. I don't see how STP (or subnets) cure this switch-jamming problem, except that the more intelligent the device the more capable it is of preventing the jam from spreading back onto the network spine. However, we have some quite large (multi-building) branches containing hundreds of outlets that are all within the same easily-jammed area. Luckily I don't yet have a large number of auto MDI/MDIX switches and am hoping to obtain more older models, which are immune to this problem because normal users don't possess crossover leads. -- Christopher Dawkins, Felsted School, Dunmow, Essex CM6 3JG 01371-822698, mobile 07816 821659 cchd(a)felsted.essex.sch.uk

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Enticement, was: Names and topics
by MJ Ray 30 Nov '03

30 Nov '03

On 2003-11-29 11:45:57 +0000 Chris Walker <linux(a)wymondham.demon.co.uk> wrote: > I'm already committed to other meetings on Thursdays so that's why > this > lurker doesn't attend them. I think we've been trying hard to scatter the days. Ely (might be trains there from Wymondham if you like beer) and K.Lynn have been on Tuesdays and Wednesdays so far. Sunday afternoon meetings are being planned further ahead to give people more notice (thanks to Syd and John). Is there something more we can do to make it more attractive? ("No" is fine as an honest answer IMO.) -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only and possibly not of any group I know. Please http://remember.to/edit_messages on lists to be sure I read http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ gopher://g.towers.org.uk/ slef(a)jabber.at Creative copyleft computing services via http://www.ttllp.co.uk/

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Kmail & spam
by Nick Daniels 30 Nov '03

30 Nov '03

Hi All the spam I receive is addressed to xyzy(a)freeserve.co.uk not as above I have configured Kmail pop filters to- If to contains xyzy-delete on server but it takes no notice. I basically do not want to download it -Is it me being stupid? Regards Nick

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Pissup in a Brewery
by Daniel Silverstone 29 Nov '03

29 Nov '03

Hi, I'm organising a party to go on a tour of the Milton Brewery. There are 15 spaces on the tour, five are already allocated, leaving 10 up for grabs. It's £10 per head and we expect the visit to be in early January on a weekday evening. Fridays (and Thursdays) are most busy for the brewery, but if I can get a 15 strong interest, we can see what we can get. Wednesdays seem a possibility for many people. Milton is not near a train station, but there will be some people driving out of Cambridge and Ely to get there (yes, some non-drinkers have booked in already) so lifts may be available. Anyone interested enough to have their name down on the list should mail me privately. I'll subscribe you to the private discussion list we have, and put your name on the website http://users.pepperfish.net/dsilvers/pissup.html We do need to get the decision made by mid December ideally, so please get your dibs in fast. D. -- Daniel Silverstone <dsilvers(a)digital-scurf.org> Digital-Scurf

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