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Announce digest, Vol 2 #23 - 2 msgs
by announce-request＠lists.alug.org.uk 08 Nov '03

08 Nov '03

Send Announce mailing list submissions to announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to announce-request(a)lists.alug.org.uk You can reach the person managing the list at announce-admin(a)lists.alug.org.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Announce digest..." --------------.--------------------------------------------.------------ alug-announce | Newsletter of the Anglian Linux User Group | Weekly(ish) --------------'--------------------------------------------'------------ ** Please send articles for this letter to announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk ** *** Please send replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk, not announce... *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Today's Topics: 1. Web site updates (MJ Ray) 2. LOCAL: GNU/Linux/ALUG/Norwich Thu 13 Nov (MJ Ray) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 01:06:34 +0000 From: MJ Ray <mjr(a)dsl.pipex.com> To: announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Organization: Very poor Subject: [Alug Announce]Web site updates Some changes have been made to the ALUG web site. Most importantly, http://www.alug.org.uk/meetings/2003/ now contains Norwich meeting details until January 2004, thanks to Syd. I have also gone back through the list archives and added links to missing meeting announcements or reports. If you can find one I've missed, please email me. If you'd like to add a page to the web site, please email me about that too. -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only and possibly not of any group I know. Please http://remember.to/edit_messages on lists to be sure I read http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ gopher://g.towers.org.uk/ slef(a)jabber.at Creative copyleft computing services via http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ --__--__-- Message: 2 From: MJ Ray <mjr(a)dsl.pipex.com> To: announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 17:14:14 +0000 Subject: [Alug Announce]LOCAL: GNU/Linux/ALUG/Norwich Thu 13 Nov [1]ALUG [2]Map Meeting 2003.16: Norwich: The Forum bar Thursday 13 November 2003 Plan for the meeting Roughly, as follows: We will meet up from 8pm onwards for an informal evening get-together for anyone interested in GNU/Linux. How to get there For directions, please see [3]the venue information page. Use [4]the meeting transport page if you want to share your journey. People at the meeting If you will be coming to this meeting, please try to say so on the mailing list, so we can be prepared for the numbers! Equipment Equipment is brought at your own risk. NB: This venue is not suitable for anything more than portable equipment (laptops, palmtops, etc). As always, we strongly suggest that you tag or label your kit. No known thefts have occurred at our meetings, but there is ample scope for going home with the wrong cables, etc. Discussion If you want to discuss this meeting, please [5]use the mailing list. [6]Back to the meetings index * Destinations 1. [7]Join ALUG 2. [8]FAQ 3. [9]Meetings * Local LUGs 1. [10]Peterborough 2. [11]Cambridge * Recent Donors 1. [12]PHP4Hosting 2. [13]Black Cat Networks 3. [14]Martyn Drake 4. [15]Turo Technology LLP 5. [16]O'Reilly UK You may think I'm a dreamer... but I'm not the only one [17]UK LUGs References 1. http://www.alug.org.uk/ 2. http://www.alug.org.uk/ 3. http://www.alug.org.uk/venues/forum.html 4. http://www.alug.org.uk/contrib/?MeetingTransport 5. http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main 6. http://www.alug.org.uk/meetings/ 7. http://www.alug.org.uk/background/contacts.html 8. http://www.alug.org.uk/contrib/?AlugFaq 9. http://www.alug.org.uk/meetings/2003/ 10. http://www.peterboro.lug.org.uk/ 11. http://www.cambridge-lug.org/ 12. http://www.php4hosting.co.uk/ 13. http://www.blackcatnetworks.co.uk/ 14. http://www.drake.org.uk/ 15. http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ 16. http://www.oreilly.co.uk/ 17. http://www.lug.org.uk/ --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Announce mailing list Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce End of Announce Digest

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rpm to apt
by BenEBoy 07 Nov '03

07 Nov '03

Evening all, Can I ask you knowlegable lot whether alien is still the preferred way of getting RPM's onto debian or is there a better way and I should be shot for even mentioning alien here? thanks BenE

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Re: [ALUG] Telling Linux to ignore hardware
by Edenyard 07 Nov '03

07 Nov '03

On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 06:25:08 +0000, Graham Trott wrote: > > Do you have a getty process running on ttys0? If so, it's defined in > /etc/inittab. My distribution (SuSE8.x) has the following line: > #S0:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -L 9600 ttys0 vt102 > which as you see is commented out. The port is free for whatever use is > required of it. > I have the line, but it's already commented out. But Linux still knows about /dev/ttyS0 and I'd really like it not to. Gerald.

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RE: [ALUG] dual boot - problems?
by Jenny Hopkins 07 Nov '03

07 Nov '03

MJRay wrote: > it didn't sound as though it would be over-reliable for msaccess > > I thought Microsoft Access was one of the normal test applications > used for WINE? The comments on http://appdb.winehq.com/ don't seem > promising, though. By the way, I hear rumours of a multi-platform GUI > database client coming soon. > It's been hard enough trying to learn web programming and php, groan, I wonder what code this one will need to be learnt? Syd Hancock wrote: >(Disclaimer: I haven't used it but..) You might want to look at >Crossover Office - gets good reviews for stability etc. I *think* >it supports Access. Thanks, I'll do this install next week and give these all a go then. I can simply keep the windows hard drive in my desk drawer for should I need to plug it in and get a bit of software from it then, and do away with the dual booting :-) Jen

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RE: [ALUG] dual boot - problems?
by Jenny Hopkins 07 Nov '03

07 Nov '03

Wayne Stallwood wrote: > > On Tuesday 04 November 2003 09:53, Jenny Hopkins wrote: > > > Coo. That sounds exactly like the problems I've been > having. Do you > > have to be moderately good at hardware to check for this? > > > > Thanks, > > Jenny > > /me prepares to whisk new hard drive out of wrapper.... > > It may be Power Supply, to be honest unless you have a > reasonably accurate > Multimeter laying around, Substitution will probably be > cheaper than getting > the equipment to test such things. > > Worse than that it could be ripple or power on spikes on one > of the lines, in > which case you are going to need even more expensive > equipment to check it. > > Just a thought though, Did you plug that Serial modem into > either/both of > these machines (remember the time you mistakenly plugged the > serial port of > your modem into your laptop's parallel port) did you try it > on these machines > as well. If so have you had the parallel ports working since then ? > > Regards > > Wayne > > PS, You should try and convince work to pay for VMware, why > ruin the uptime of > a perfectly good Linux system by starting windows :o) > I'll try replacing the power supply then. Re. serial modem - no, that was a moment of laptop idiocy that fortunately seemed to leave no damage done (good memory you have!). This is my main desktop pc. I did have the printer printing over the parallel port from both OS until recently, as I did the sound. I'm racking my brains to think of any hardware changes I suddenly made (plugging in zip drives instead of printers to parallel ports etc) but can't think of any. I might bring the box along to Syleham meeting and invite speculation, if the psu change doesn't work. VMware - what an excellent idea. I was thinking of looking into WINE, but it didn't sound as though it would be over-reliable for msaccess, and I have to maintain a db for work in this (although I've just ported the back end over to postgresql on the linux server :-)). I'll go off and look at costs and spec. Thanks, Jenny

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Telling Linux to ignore hardware
by Edenyard 07 Nov '03

07 Nov '03

Please can anyone explain the magic invocation that's needed to tell Linux to ignore a serial port? I want my Slack installation (kernel 2.4.22) to ignore /dev/ttyS0 and pretend that it doesn't exist. I'm sure that I've seen it written down somewhere - but that might have been to do with ignoring parallel ports? I've tried 'setserial /dev/ttyS0 uart none', which the man page suggests might do the trick, but it doesn't. Any ideas, please, anyone? Gerald.

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[Alug]Raedeon graphics cards
by Nick Daniels 07 Nov '03

07 Nov '03

Has anybody managed to get a Raedeon 9000 pro graphics card working in 3D on Suse 8.2. Regards Nick Daniels

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RE: [ALUG] dual boot - problems?
by Jenny Hopkins 05 Nov '03

05 Nov '03

Keith Watson wrote: > What boot-loader do you use? I used to use LILO but have > found GRUB to be easier to configure. > LILO. I've never looked at GRUB. > If it is software related I would check out the particular > combination of motherboard/BIOS/chip set you have. However > last time I had a problem like this it turned out to be a > slowly dying power supply where the voltages where drifting > away from the required 5v or 12v and causing odd things to > happen like video/sound card lock-up, keyboard or mouse > problems, etc). > Coo. That sounds exactly like the problems I've been having. Do you have to be moderately good at hardware to check for this? Thanks, Jenny /me prepares to whisk new hard drive out of wrapper....

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GKrellm
by Keith Watson 05 Nov '03

05 Nov '03

I feel I must remonstrate with the members of this list (I'm lead to understand that they can't touch you for it :o) ). To date no-one on this list has mentioned that most excellent piece of Gnome eye-candy - GKrellm. For shame and even tsk tsk, ALUG ;o) I had to rely on a mention on Slashdot to draw my attention to this and downloaded a copy last night. In the vernacular of my younger colleagues - wicked! Keith :o)

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HOWTO meet an ALUG
by MJ Ray 04 Nov '03

04 Nov '03

Finally, the document that you've all been waiting for is available! Now you too can organise your very own ALUG meeting in the comfort of your own city for maximum LUGging, minimum effort! Astound your friends! Amaze your relatives! Be the envy of your peers! Point your web browser at http://www.alug.org.uk/articles/2003/howtomeet.html and follow the simple 10-point plan! [SANITY WARNING: may cause overuse of exclamation marks if ingested.] Seriously, I think that page is accurate and will replace a couple of older pages on the site. If anyone has suggestions for improvements, please drop me an email off-list and I'll see to it. I hope current and future meeting organisers find it useful. -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only and possibly not of any group I know. Please http://remember.to/edit_messages on lists to be sure I read http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ gopher://g.towers.org.uk/ slef(a)jabber.at Creative copyleft computing services via http://www.ttllp.co.uk/

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