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Re: [Alug]rtl8139
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 29 Apr '03

29 Apr '03

MJR wrote: >Aren't those drivers built into the bf2.4 kernel? >http://www.uk.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-i386/current/bf2.4/k… >suggests so. Steve wrote: >No, if the driver is built-in to the kernel, as Mark suggests, you won't see a separate file for it - it will be >part of /vmlinuz. Yes, sorry - I see it in my own config now. I was looking for it as a module in modconf. Sorry - a bit hazy on things like this. Two steps forward and one back.... What it is, is I have a new motherboard A7N266-VM which has onboard video (NVIDIA 220D North Bridge) and ethernet (Realtek 8201 PHY controller). The complete output of lspci shows everything to be nvidia corporation "unknown device", anyways I found a thread on the internet that says the ethernet for this motherboard will work with rtl8139. Jen

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Fw: Re: [Alug]Debian Install
by Steve Fosdick 28 Apr '03

28 Apr '03

On Sun, 27 Apr 2003 18:30:03 +0100 Ian Bell <ian(a)redtommo.com> wrote: > Now that one is solved it is time to find out why KDE does not work. > X windows gives a fatal server error 4. What does that indicate? When does this error occur? Is it before login, i.e. is it when you are expecting a graphical login screen like kdm or gdm to appear, or is it after you have logged in? X writes a log file which may help diagnose this - where this gets written may depend on which login manager you are using. For gdm2 I have the log file /var/log/XFree86.0.log. I have also seen a log called gdm:0.log or some such similar thing. Steve.

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RE: [Alug]rtl8139
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 28 Apr '03

28 Apr '03

Jonathan Dye wrote: >The driver should be 8139too. That's what I'm using currently with 3.0 and >I installed from the bf2.4 disks. Is that under drivers/net? I can't see 8139too or any Realtek stuff. Thanks, Jenny

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[Alug]rtl8139
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 28 Apr '03

28 Apr '03

Hi List, Great meeting yesterday, ta for help all. Now, why can't I find any Realtek drivers in the kernel 2.4.18-bf2.4 that comes with the woody 3.0 disk? Could I be looking in the wrong place, or aren't there any? I need one to get a network connection going (onboard Realtex 8201 PHY controller) in order to get a different kernel :-) Thanks Jen

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Re: [Alug]rtl8139
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 28 Apr '03

28 Apr '03

Laurie wrote: >8139too is correct. It *is* compiled either in the kernel or as a module >isn't it? I have a Stupid Moment Feeling coming over me.... Now, one of my problems here is that I can never see where the source tree installs to when I do a fresh install from disk - I've only ever upgraded kernels by installing a new one and then working with that. Anyway, escape from further embarrassment by a timely dentists visit...:-) Will look afresh in the morning. Ta, Jen

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RE: [Alug]rtl8139
by Jonathan Dye 28 Apr '03

28 Apr '03

Jenny_Hopkins(a)toby-churchill.com wrote: > Hi List, > Great meeting yesterday, ta for help all. > > Now, why can't I find any Realtek drivers in the kernel > 2.4.18-bf2.4 that > comes with the woody 3.0 disk? Could I be looking in the wrong > place, or aren't there any? > I need one to get a network connection going (onboard Realtex 8201 PHY > controller) in order to get a different kernel :-) The driver should be 8139too. That's what I'm using currently with 3.0 and I installed from the bf2.4 disks. JD _____________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses by the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service

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[Alug]Suse 8.1
by Syd Hancock 28 Apr '03

28 Apr '03

This month's PC Plus has Suse 8.1 on the DVD - three CDs. AFAIK this is the fully-installable version, not the run-from-cd trial. If anyone wants a copy, contact me off list. No copying fee :-) Syd

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[Alug]Elmswell
by John Seago 28 Apr '03

28 Apr '03

Syd Hancock <syd(a)toufol.com> wrote: > I won't be there, sorry. Entertaining guests today - two Texans who > want to see Norwich! And I went specially to prove that I was'n't dead! -- John Seago

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[Alug]Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 28 Apr '03

28 Apr '03

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.alug.org.uk in the #alug channel. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server irc.alug.org.uk" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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Re: [Alug]Debian Install
by Steve Fosdick 27 Apr '03

27 Apr '03

On Sun, 27 Apr 2003 11:27:56 -0000 MJ Ray <markj(a)cloaked.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > Alternatively, try grub. Beware, as the path specs are a little > different. Grub will definitely enable you to do what you want, though I still think it is possible with LILO too. With LILO most of the inteligence is in the map installer, the 'lilo' command you run to set things up, and the code that actually does the booting is therefore very simplistic, but small and light and loads very fast. By comparison, grub has a second stage loader that is able to read proper file systems rather than just follow a block list so it is very flexible and can cope with things getting changed, but does take noticably longer to load because the second stage loader is bigger. Though I still have LILO for my main boot loader for the extra speed, I have a copy of grub on a floppy as a completely general purpose boot disk - just the job for booting a configuration that is otherwise broken. Steve.

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