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bridge identification
by atit_ldce 06 Mar '03

06 Mar '03

hello... i am using red hat linux 7.1 which is connected to local ethernet i want to identify bride(s) in my network if any exists.. if exist i want to know address of the same... is there any utility or software for this... _____________________________________________________________________ Get your internet connection from the fastest growing digital network. ICENET visit our site www.icenet.net

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 03 Mar '03

03 Mar '03

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.alug.org.uk in the #alug channel. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server irc.alug.org.uk" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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RE: [Alug] Re: wireless WANS
by Michael Sage 02 Mar '03

02 Mar '03

Tristan, I have just printed off a map for having Freethorpe as the broadcast centre. I think within 2.5 miles should be easy enough to do (bit of hardware cost involved for each thou). It would then cover: Beighton Halvergate Freethorpe Cantley Reedham I suspect within this area we should be able to get enough interest to make it viable. We can always have a line bigger than a meg put in here, although to be honest most people will be happy to have a perminant connection let alone more bandwidth, I know I would be, I have even looked at 64kbps leased lines, I want it more for the IP and the hosting stuff at home more than anything. If we just do the maths quickly. 1mb = 1024kb 1024 / 64 (the minium people would want) = 16 16 / 8000 (yearly cost) = 41.67per month To get down to the 64Kbps all people would have to be connected at once, BT have a 50:1 contention ratio on 512kbp ADSL pipes in a worst case this means people will only get 20Kbps so maybe we should let a couple more in?? Ideas please. Michael -----Original Message----- From: Tristan [mailto:trs@scott998.freeserve.co.uk] Sent: 01 March 2003 12:22 To: Michael Sage Subject: Re: [Alug] Re: wireless WANS > If you could stick up a big enough arial and i can see you from here there great! hmm maybe i can pursuade the factory to let me use their silos.... no maybe not. is there going to be abroadband on this wan somewhere? i am /probably/ getting satellite link to the net (download only), so about 4-6 movies (divx) per night, according to a current subscriber. i am planning to get a small celery 1ghz - something like that, and put something like half a terabyte in, then it will sit there and grab any file going past (as the files are pushed during the night mainly) this could act as a file server for the network. ill probably put my mp3 collection on it too (20gb). this is going to take a while as ive just bought another BMW and have to pay for that first. 2 months maybe? probably nearer 4... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Sage" <lists(a)theangel.net> To: "Tristan Scott" <trs(a)scott998.freeserve.co.uk> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 11:37 AM Subject: RE: [Alug] Re: wireless WANS > If you could stick up a big enough arial and i can see you from here there > is no reason why not, wireless arials will do about 30k as the crow flies, > so there is no reason why not! :o) > > Michael > > -----Original Message----- > From: main-admin(a)lists.alug.org.uk > [mailto:main-admin@lists.alug.org.uk]On Behalf Of Tristan Scott > Sent: 22 February 2003 11:21 > To: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > Subject: Re: [Alug] Re: wireless WANS > > > hmm if freethorpe got it, would it reach to cantley? no methinks not. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Sage" <lists(a)theangel.net> > To: <main(a)lists.alug.org.uk> > Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 12:03 PM > Subject: RE: [Alug] Re: wireless WANS > > > > Jen et al, > > > > The problem with invisible is they are only interested in commercially > > viable villages, which unfortunately Freethorpe isnt. I have been to one > of > > their meetings and what they do is put a leased line into a village and > then > > setup a wireless network round the village, they seemed to be a bit > unclear > > on the old security frount too, like talking about setting up a village > > server that all could access etc, this is not ideal as my missues (now > with > > month old baby) runsa business from home..... hmmmm. > > > > Regards, > > > > M > > > > BTW good to see the interest is there, maybe a ALUG meeting on it?? :o) > pref > > at the UEA, or I could see if we could get the village hall here, bit of a > > travel prob thou i feel. :o| > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: main-admin(a)lists.alug.org.uk > > [mailto:main-admin@lists.alug.org.uk]On Behalf Of jenny > > Sent: 20 February 2003 09:56 > > To: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > > Subject: [Alug] Re: wireless WANS > > > > > > Michael Sage wrote: > > >I would like to make an appeal to all of you without broadband in the > area, > > >how would you feel about setting up a wireless wan (they are doing it all > > >over the country and in other regions (Suffolk, Cambridge)). > > Hi Michael, > > a company called Invisible Networks are setting up the wireless broadband > > around Cambridgeshire, I'm trying to get it in Burwell at the moment. The > > CA are supplying grants if you apply in the correct manner to bring down > the > > installation fee. Perhaps IN will come to Norfolk if there is enough > > interest? > > Jen. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > > http://www.alug.org.uk/ > > http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main > > Unsubscribe? See message headers or the web site above! > > --- > > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com) > > Version: 6.0.455 / Virus Database: 255 - Release Date: 13/02/2003 > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com) > > Version: 6.0.455 / Virus Database: 255 - Release Date: 13/02/2003 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > > http://www.alug.org.uk/ > > http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main > > Unsubscribe? 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Re: [Alug] PCI ADSL modems
by Craig 02 Mar '03

02 Mar '03

On Sun, Mar 02, 2003 at 11:32:29AM +0000, Chris Walker wrote: > Why am I keen to buy an internal rather than an external or USB? The box > doesn't have a USB outlet on it but even if it did, I'd have the problem with > that as I'd have with a normal external device and that is leads and power. > I already have an external modem - 56k USR - on it and if I'm to leave the > smoothie box on all the time I'd like to have as few other things switched on > at the same time. http://www.dslsource.co.uk Go there, you're better off getting a adsl router with firewall built in anyway. Something like the speedtouch pro single port adsl router. Worth considering. -- (o_ - Craig Butcher //\ - IT Technician / Unix Support MTH/ENV @ UEA V_/_ - http://www.wizball.co.uk - Using Gentoo GNU/Linux

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Great new plans for alug library afoot!
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 28 Feb '03

28 Feb '03

Hullo All, Adam, Kirsty and I have agreed to share the job of setting up and running the alug library. We are hoping that one or the other of us can take the books to each meeting for members to browse through and borrow. We will even keep overdue fines low - say, two chocolate biscuits per book per week late? ;-) Our first job will be to try and gather together all the books we currently have, then have a think about how to get some more donations or freebies. Any ideas please mail us offlist, and if anyone currently has any alug books, could they do the same so we can start catalogueing them? I hold my hands up to having had Cathedral and Bazaar for at least three months, that is about ten packets of chocolate hobnobs I need to bring to the next meeting by now. Whilst I'm here: I'm currently working on some extremely exciting stuff here at work, and spend all day doing R&D with linux. It occurred to me recently that two years ago I was doing a very different job using very different software, and although I still ask ridiculous questions from time to time of the list, I would like to thank everyone for the help I got when I first joined and my ridiculous questions averaged three a day - your help and patient answers have stood me in good stead. Thanks! :-) Jenny.

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desktop icons
by BenEBoy 27 Feb '03

27 Feb '03

I don't suppose anyone knows of a program that can put icons on the desktop pls? I'm using fluxbox, and although I've seen nautilus working with it, I'm not a fan. It's a bit too...I dunno...clunky? I haven't been able to google anything (which I'm ashamed at ::grin::) and I've been racking my brain, but I don't think I've ever heard of anything apart from nautilus that will do it (well, apart from kde, but I don't fancy hacking the code out ::grin::) cheers, BenE

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Job Vacancy: Moving Picture Company (London)
by Martyn Drake 27 Feb '03

27 Feb '03

Hi folks, We're advertising here at MPC, and I thought anybody who might be thinking about heading down London way to work might be interested in the following vacancy:- -- Begin Quote -- MPC requires Unix Systems Administrators to help with all aspects of running its large network of mainly Linux plus some IRIX and Solaris servers and workstations. A background in video/film/post production would be useful, but not essential. Applicants should have a strong background in: - Network infrastructure (network protocols, routing, firewalls etc.). - Installation, configuration, customization and optimization of Unix operating systems and application software. - Use of various Unix scripting languages, (shell scripts, perl, tcl etc.). - Problem solving and troubleshooting system and user support issues. Please submit your cv for the attention of Rebecca Hare, The Moving Picture Company, 127 Wardour Street, London W1F ONL, or email rebecca-h(a)moving-picture.com -- End Quote -- Regards, Martyn Drake -- Systems Administrator The Moving Picture Company 127 Wardour Street, London, W1F 0NL Telephone: +44 (0)20 7494 7853 (direct line)

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Wireless WANS (i.e. Norfolk)
by Michael Sage 26 Feb '03

26 Feb '03

To Fellow ALUGers, I would like to make an appeal to all of you without broadband in the area, how would you feel about setting up a wireless wan (they are doing it all over the country and in other regions (Suffolk, Cambridge)). As I live in the middle of no where I am not commercially viable, but I believe with the power of the penguin I can jump onto someone else's wireless network, with their permission and do things that way. Check out http://locustworld.com for the meshAP kit, which we can build cheaper, also www.invisible.net.uk for other stuff. Let me know what u think! Maybe ALUG can be held responsible for the birth of Norfolknet! Regards to all, Michael --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com) Version: 6.0.455 / Virus Database: 255 - Release Date: 13/02/2003

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Linux, Java, etc tutorials
by Keith Watson 26 Feb '03

26 Feb '03

A colleague has just pointed me in the direction of the IBM DeveloperWorks site <www.ibm.com/developerworks>. They have a number of areas which they call "Technology Zones" one of which is Linux, if you go to a zone and then select Education from the left hand menu there are a number of tutorials that look interesting e.g. Introduction to XFree86 4.X, Configuring TCP/IP under Linux, Backing up your Linux machines, CVS for the developer or amateur, Getting to know GRUB, Compiling and installing software from sources, to name but a few. You can view them online or download zipped HTML or a PDF. You'll need to register (but what the heck, on the internet no one know you're a dog ;-) ) I've skimmed through a couple and my 1st impression is that they're useful introductory material but tend to lack a bit of detail. Probably a good starting point for someone new to a topic before getting into the more detailed stuff. Keith ____________ BAROMETER, n. An ingenious instrument which indicates what kind of weather we are having. - Ambrose Bierce - The Devil's Dictionary

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Slashdot : UK ISP Imposes Download Limits
by Keith Watson 26 Feb '03

26 Feb '03

<http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/02/09/2210214> [0]Richard_at_work writes "The BBC news site is [1]reporting that NTL have announced it will be imposing 1GB download limits per day for its users. As you can guess, [2]reactions have not been mild :) One thing to note, NTL has said that they will only be persuing persistent offenders, so i guess they understand you cant track your usage to the byte! Also with NTL, they appear to [3]ban the usage of VPNs, citing that their service is for resedential use only. Does this mean I can't email work now?" Links 0. http://www.mysterae.com/ 1. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/2740621.stm 2. http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=7676 3. http://www.adslguide.org.uk/newsarchive.asp?item=993 Keith ____________ The more you wonder why it's so, the more it keeps on happening.

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