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Re: [Alug] nvidia graphics card
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 04 Nov '02

04 Nov '02

Adam Bower wrote: >Have you removed the old X v3. from your system? try perhaps >uninstalling all the X packages from that and possibly 4 and getting it >to install from scratch. There is a possibility that you may want to >look at the command update-alternatives instead though as this selects >different packages when you have a choice of more than one. I would get >rid of all the X packages if it was me though, and then try only >installing Xv4. Yes, I'll be happy to completely clean out all the x stuff and start from scratch. Will I do that via apt-get remove [stuff with x before it] or just delete /etc/X11 and contents, or do i need the dreaded dselect to find out what has been put where? This sort of thing has me flapping about like it was two years ago - I can't tell whether or not part of the x system is v3 or v4. Yours Uselessly Jen.

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nvidia graphics card
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 04 Nov '02

04 Nov '02

Hi list, Has anyone any experience in using an nVidia GeForce 2MX graphics card with Debian? I did an apt-get install nvidia-glx-src but although startx apparently gets xserver up and running there is no visual on F7. (Sorry - a bit lacking in helpful info there, there is a bundle of stuff on screen comes up on the console from which I typed startx but I don't now how to trap it in a file.) How was the meeting? Most sorry not to make it. Jenny.

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Re: [Alug] nvidia graphics card
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 04 Nov '02

04 Nov '02

Adam Bower wrote: >Thats your problem then not having the right (X4.x) version of X >windows, things to check are > >1. which release of Debian >2. can you install different versions of X in the newer releases? >3. have you got the correct sources.list >4. have you run apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade etc... 1. Woody 2. I am now doing an upgrade of w-window-system, see 3 and 4. 3. I didn't have "contrib" on one of my sources. I'll rerun update and upgrade. 4. Yes, I did recently, but see 3. Craig wrote: >Simple... get the nvidia-glx-src and nvidia-kernel-src compiled >(providing that in mind that you have left the kernel source in >/usr/src/linux since it will build against your kernel) > >Then in XF86Config: > >Add the line in Section "Module" > > Load "glx" > >And then: > >In Section "Device" change: > >Driver "nv" > >to > >Driver "nvidia" > >Restart 'X' and you should be on your way. I've been running xf86config and it has been generating a completely incompatible file with such sections as "drivers", and X hasn't liked it at all so I've been writing one out manually with section headings it can deal with. Having old version of xwindows explains a lot. Thanks, I'll let you know how it goes when xwindow has rocketed forward into the 21st century. Jenny.

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Re: [Alug] nvidia graphics card
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 04 Nov '02

04 Nov '02

Adam Bower wrote: >you can look in the logfile /var/log/Xfree86.0.log (probably, may have a >slightly different name) anyhow if you don't need 3d acceleration with >the card then you don't need anything apart from X4.x Well for a start the log output shows "XFree86 Version 3.3.6a / X Window System" Ha HA! However, apt-get says I'm already using the most current version of xfree86-common. Is it telling porkies? Thanks, Jen. (Thanks for the logfile trapping thing)

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 04 Nov '02

04 Nov '02

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.alug.org.uk in the #alug channel. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server irc.alug.org.uk" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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A keen newbie on the loose
by Ben Francis 03 Nov '02

03 Nov '02

Hey there I've been subscribed to and reading messages on the Alug mailing list now for around 2 and a half months and thought it was about time I said something. I'm just about a complete newbie to Linux, my experience extends to a failed Red Hat 6.1 graphical installation - it failed because a) I didn't know my hardware well enough and b) because I didn't have a clue what I was doing and didn't know how to configure the thing once it was (semi) installed. I never actually got as far as starting X. I waited for it to start automatically when I booted after I finished the installation (I tried both Gnome and KDE on separate and numerous occasions!) but it didn't so I typed startx and it... flopped. I'm installing on a PII 300mhz box with a 4Gb hdd, 64 meg of RAM with what I thought was a pretty generic graphics card and little else. I've been using Windows for years but have wanted to get into Linux for a long time for a number of reasons - one of them is that I'd like to set up a web server I can use for development with PHP and mySQL or another database application. I'd like your advice on which distro to start with. When I couldn't install redhat I did a bit of reading and found that Mandrake or SuSe might be a good place to start, but a friend is sending me the latest version of Red Hat and Debian (which he thinks I would learn a lot from) on CD - I only have a 56k internet connection. I have a limited experience of unix commands but apart from that I really don't have a lot of knowledge on this kind of thing and feel a bit like I don't know where to start. Do you think I would benefit by coming to one of the ALUG meetings or joining an IRC session? I live near Peterborough but could probably make a UEA meeting, but travel is a problem caus I'm 16. Thanks for your time Ben Francis ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: tola ^/. "there is no spoon"

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New Member
by John Sherman 03 Nov '02

03 Nov '02

Linux to be installed in due course I like change and have never left my computer the same configuration for very long. I hope to find Linux a challenge and to be able to experiment and enjoy as I will soon have more time available. To this end I shall go in at the deep end and start with Debian but there appears to be plenty of help available for the novice. John

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Announce digest, Vol 1 #29 - 1 msg
by announce-request＠lists.alug.org.uk 03 Nov '02

03 Nov '02

Send Announce mailing list submissions to announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to announce-request(a)lists.alug.org.uk You can reach the person managing the list at announce-admin(a)lists.alug.org.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Announce digest..." --------------.--------------------------------------------.------------ alug-announce | Newsletter of the Anglian Linux User Group | Weekly(ish) --------------'--------------------------------------------'------------ ** Please send articles for this letter to announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk ** *** Please send replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk, not announce... *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Today's Topics: 1. Meeting on 3rd November 2002 (MJ Ray) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: MJ Ray <markj(a)cloaked.freeserve.co.uk> To: announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 15:04:17 +0000 Subject: [Alug Announce] Meeting on 3rd November 2002 ALUG 3rd November 2002 This ALUG meeting will be from 2pm until about 6pm in the normal place at http://www.alug.org.uk/venues/syleham.html but I don't know who's bringing the biscuits and whether the bar will be open. It's 9:00pm on Tuesday 29th, the power just came back on, Syleham has been blacked out since 11:00 am on Sunday. So thankfully the meeting is still on. I will get the keys for the bar and get the hall opened up around 12:30 - 1:00pm on Sunday if anybody fancies a pre meeting drink.(BJ) It seems that there's a great demand for another kit-fixing and demonstration day. Please let us know what you want to see, what you want to know and what you want to get help with fixing, and we can try to organise ourselves a little before the day! For more information, see http://www.alug.org.uk/contrib/?3rd%20November%202002 -- MJR| v ---|--[ Something else will appear here eventually, I guess... ]-----| `--[ http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ ]---------[ slef at jabber.at ]-----' --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Announce mailing list Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce End of Announce Digest

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KDE3 Ksplash and Konquerer/lynx
by Glen Tyler 02 Nov '02

02 Nov '02

Hi I have a RH 7.2 machine which I have just updated with KDE3.0 KDE3 is very nice, but I cannot use konquerer for web browsing, as although KPPP connects OK, any URLs typed in are timed out. The KPPP log shows low rates of traffic, inshort pulses (typically between 0.1 and 0.2 Kb/s) with more data flowing out than coming in. Trying to connect using lynx is exactly the same. Does anyone else have any experience of this and what might be causing the problem? Another anoyance is that at starting KDE the splash screen Ksplash always crashes. This is not fatal, just a bit of a pain and spoils my nice new desktop. Is there anyway that this can be tackled? best wishes Glen

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cuddly toys
by jenny 01 Nov '02

01 Nov '02

Ahem, a bit off-topic: For those who were wondering were to get various soft toys, I just noticed a few in the greenpeace catalogue: www.naturalcollection.com There is a lamb, a bear, an "organic pig in dungarees" (as if you were thinking of eating it....), mouse, penguin etc etc, i can't remember what was asked for in the first place.......... Jenny

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