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by announce-request＠lists.alug.org.uk 19 Feb '02

19 Feb '02

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Virii...
by brettp＠users.sourceforge.net 19 Feb '02

19 Feb '02

OK, now this is possibly one of the strangest requests that you'll ever get... I want virii, basically so that I can test/play with this funky java ScannerDaemon thing that I want to plug in to our server (free virus scanner, yay!). So, all those "really fun" M$ viruses that we all get from time to time, please bounce a copy this way! (works mail server appears to be filtering the main culprits, damn!) so, brettp(a)users.sourceforge.net is the way to go (I use imap on it from work, given that it redirects to liunuxfreemail.com) Thanks guys (and gals), Brett - The totatally insane virus hunting mad fool - Parker

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IP_Tables rulesets
by Ricardo Campos 19 Feb '02

19 Feb '02

As I'm trying to rewrite my firewall script (last one on this system was autogenerated). I'm trying to find a suitable one to crib from. I am a standard dial-up user but with a fixed ip address (I use demon). Obviously I need to browse the net, check my pop3 mailbox etc. and the only services I need to listen on is port 21, IRC and Instant messaging (i.e AIM and MSN). I do no forwarding/masquerading, as I'm not on an internal network. If anyone would like to send me example scripts to this e-mail address, it would be greatly appreciated. TIA Ricardo -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Bit of fun: Your first Linux distro
by Martyn Drake 19 Feb '02

19 Feb '02

Hi folks, Just for a bit of fun (since it's Friday) - what was your very first exposure to Linux and what was your first distribution that you ever installed (and can you remember the kernel version?!). For me, I was about to head off to university and became very interested in UNIX (and in particular, Linux) since it was beginning to make a bit of a splash in various computer magazines at that time. I got hold of a copy of Yggrdrasil Linux which boasted that it had 0.93 (or was it 0.98, I can't remember) of the Linux kernel. I had a relatively new 486DX-33 computer at the time with 8Mb RAM and attempting to run XFree86 on it was incredibly slow. I managed to persuade the folks that I needed more RAM, and eventually ended up with 16Mb which made all the difference which meant that I had a working X-Windows box that did keep swapping it's memory to HD and slowing the thing down to a crawl. Ah - those were the days... (he says with a small tear in his eye..) Regards, Martyn -- http://www.drake.me.uk http://martyn.drake.me.uk http://www.alug.org.uk

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Re: FW: [Alug] Slackware 8 - Cups
by MJ Ray 18 Feb '02

18 Feb '02

John: > Yes it does, but both Chris and I had no success in getting it to work > that way. The Apsfilter list suggested taking out lpr and putting in LPrng > to overcome `permission problems' [...] I have vague memories of the permissions in /var/spool/lpd being wrong, but I don't remember the specifics. That advice about lpr and lprng smacks of "Sprained wrist? Amputate arm!" You should be suspicious that the adviser has some preference for LPRng. In any case, as you probably discovered, the same permission problems will probably recur. If you can uninstall all but one print server and then send us a "good bug report" in the style of http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html and we'll try to help. All other things failing, it's probably safest to go with one of the *lpr* packages, as more people use them. > All I wanted was a controllable system which I could use to produce copy > for publication, save my research notes and connect to the Internet, and > print out papers for Editors. then I found GNU/Linux, and now I'm > addicted, I've even spent a huge chunk of last years pocket money on new > computers, and probably more on a huge GNU/Linux library which I have yet > to understand. Funny. Most people find that GNU/Linux means that they don't have to buy new computers as often and that there is a lot of free documentation and help available online. Maybe this is the impact of the new popular "Linux" movement with less tradition of LUGgers helping one another and huge "desktop environments" eating all the resources? -- MJR

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Re: Fwd: Slackware 8 - Cups
by John Seago 18 Feb '02

18 Feb '02

> I do not know where to go from here. Any help would be gratefull to me > as well as John Seago as I have got to install his printer as well. > > Some details of my system > > Slackware 8 > Kernel 2.4.17 > kde 2.2.2 > xfree86 4.2.0 > cups 1.1.14 > LPRng 3.8.5 > > Chris Drane > He's got to do mine as well as he's married to my Daughter, plus I've got a little out of balance with my drug regime,and reached the point where having successfully negotiated pressing enter to get Slackware to boot, It took me a very long time to remember how to log in. Severe vagueness has set in I'm afraid, I'll probably get a bit better when the warm weather comes. I am determined to learn this GNU/Linux thing, it's just the time scale gets longer every day, all I seem to learn is how much I don't know/need to learn. Still it keeps me busy. Some details of my system Slackware 8 Kernel 2.4.17 KDE 2.2.2 XFree 86 4.1.0 LPrng 3.8.5 lp (to be taken out) All the above handicapped by incompetent, drugged, vague operator, with short term memory loss. (It would be much easier if I could print out the Doc's How-to's etc., to follow the instructions, what's the bit that doesn't work, the printer!)

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RE: [Alug] php anyone?
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 18 Feb '02

18 Feb '02

Ted wrote: >BTW, I think it's time Jenny told in a bit more detail >what she needs to do when the web-page is accessed. >Is it any web-page, with a different action for each >web page? Or is it the same action for any access? >Is it simply access to the web-site as a whole? OK...the guy in despatch clicks a button in my ms access database (stop spitting) , which sends the out put in html format to the web directory. There is a link to this file from my intranet website so that anyone (and in particular my boss, who likes to keep a nice tight hold on credit matters) can scrutinise it with an eagle eye. If stuff is being omitted, I'll get my knuckles rapped. So it is just one page, I need to take the multiple pages access has generated and turn them back into one. This must be done before anyone accesses the page, but after the report has been run (daily). It seemed to me that when the page was accessed was a good trigger. If I can use the apache log file to trigger a script that does the appending, i would be delighted....but i now have half an hour left to mend this ugly oversight on my part ( I blame access) and don't know if I can understand this awk thing in that time. Mind you...or php...... (/me finds table and crawls under it with brown paper bag over head...) Now, how about if I try and use a file date changing as a trigger to run a file? So if the date on my html file changes (as the despatch guy sends a new one) it runs a script doing the appending...is *that* more simple? :-) Thanks all! Jen.

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Re: FW: [Alug] Slackware 8 - Cups
by John Seago 18 Feb '02

18 Feb '02

On Tuesday 19 Feb 2002 6:50 pm, you wrote >> This is odd. One or the other, not both. I'd go for the BSD-derived >> lpr, along with magicfilter or similar, as they're very very simple. >> LPRng is probably overkill for you. CUPS is nice when it works, but is >> a very monolithic solution. > > I seem to remember Slackware leaving an email about how to set up >> printing in the root mailbox after installation. Does it still? Yes it does, but both Chris and I had no success in getting it to work that way. The Apsfilter list suggested taking out lpr and putting in LPrng to overcome `permission problems', Slackware current has a Slackware package of LPrng to try to improve matters (for the same reason I presume), but in my case there have been that many ill informed attempts to get it to work, that I am seriously considering taking everything out and making a clean install, trouble is I lack not only the GNU/Linux experience but computing experience in general, (see previous post). All I wanted was a controllable system which I could use to produce copy for publication, save my research notes and connect to the Internet, and print out papers for Editors. then I found GNU/Linux, and now I'm addicted, I've even spent a huge chunk of last years pocket money on new computers, and probably more on a huge GNU/Linux library which I have yet to understand. -- John Seago Change is not synonymous with `progress'. PS there may be both a considerable delay in sending this and/or multiple posts again. Time to complain to BT about their Exchange again! John

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Subject: Re: [Alug] Bit of fun: Your first Linux distro
by John Seago 18 Feb '02

18 Feb '02

My Linux Notebook shows my first install was mandrake 8 on the 5th of the 7th last year, (this after two years of having Windows as an electric typewriter and nothing more; second-hand computer cheaper than new word processor). Moved up to 8.1 which showed every sign of becoming a Linux version of Windows by 8.2 so moved on to Slackware 8, which looks as if, if I live long enough I might just be able to catch up enough to be able to control it by the time I'm 70 or so. My insoluable problem, printing, it won't! But I'll have to get Chris my son-in-law to outline the problem. (I'm expecting his post to follow). John Seago

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Re: [Alug] Full archives of ALUG since June 2000 now on-line!
by MJ Ray 18 Feb '02

18 Feb '02

Martyn: > we now have a complete set of articles posted to the ALUG mailing lists > since June, 2000. [...] I've just found and uploaded emails covering the period April 1999 to May 2000 (Martyn, this is the file alug-original.mbox.gz -- pipermail may not like them). This leaves most of 6th, 7th and 8th June 2000 missing, I think. If anyone has files covering the missing period, please can you offer them to Martyn or myself? Nearly a complete history now... you see, you should have paid that blackmail demand at the last meeting, BJ! ;-) -- MJR

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