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Mandrake 8.2 beta 1
by Martyn Drake 01 Feb '02

01 Feb '02

Just in case nobody has spotted it yet, but Mandrake has now released beata 1 of version 8.2. I'm currently downloading the ISOs and would be willing to burn CDs from these for those that would like them (£1.50 per CD plus £1.50 P&P). In other news, thanks to Rackspace, I have negotiated the rental price of the server that ALUG and it's mailing lists sit upon at a special discounted rate which is easily afforable for me. Many thanks to John Spears at Rackspace for arranging this for me. Regards, Martyn

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Web site contrib area live
by MJ Ray 31 Jan '02

31 Jan '02

Hi all, Some of the changes to the ALUG web site have now gone live. There is now a Wiki-based contrib area. You too can edit and contribute to the site at http://www.alug.org.uk/ -- all I ask is that you add your name to the page that you edit (probably at the end) and that you play with the "sandbox" area of the site and not with the main pages. If you hit any problems, email me and I'll restore it from the backups, or something like that. Thanks, -- MJR

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Python help needed
by Paul 31 Jan '02

31 Jan '02

Hi Folks Are there any python experts in the Norwich area who would be willing to give me a hand with some small .py scripts - I'm not an expert with this language, but I need to get stuck into a project that uses some, and could do with a bit of initial guidance/help. Regards, Paul. P.S. I'll buy the beers.

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RMS Lecture
by Earl Brannigan 30 Jan '02

30 Jan '02

Hi all, just to let you know, I intend to attend the RMS lecture at Queen Mary's University. Hopefully I will be joined by two colleagues. I shall be setting off from Sawston Cambs at 5:00pm, anyone needing a lift is welcome, but you'll have to get here. I have confirmed 3 places for the lecture although it is poss that one colleague may pull out. Thus I can take at least 2 Lugites along (FCFS) but poss more. If you have any contact with CamLug please feel free to forward this mail to them, may be that someone from that neck of the woods would use the lift, being nearer. Cheers Earl ******************************************** Earl Brannigan, Linden House Software LTD, 82 High Street, Sawston, Cambridgeshire CB2 4HJ www.lindenhouse.co.uk Tel : 01223 834383 ********************************************

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RMS in London
by Earl Brannigan 29 Jan '02

29 Jan '02

whoever it was..thanks for the post on the RMS lecture. Anyone hoping to attend, any restrictions on who may attend? I dunno, with RMS and Tony Benn on the road you'd think that there are people around who are interested in personal freedom from corporate tyranny. But that could never be.... Cheers Earl ******************************************** Earl Brannigan, Linden House Software LTD, 82 High Street, Sawston, Cambridgeshire CB2 4HJ www.lindenhouse.co.uk Tel : 01223 834383 ********************************************

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PCMCIA-CS Resources
by James 28 Jan '02

28 Jan '02

More on that interesting (but failed) attempt to get a Debian 2.2.18pre kernel Toshiba Laptop to talk with its PCMCIA network card at the ALUG Chevely meet last Sunday... First: an interrupt clash problem. Resolving that didn't help. One interesting workaround not tried was a recompile of the stock kernel / pcmcia-cs, including the ``irq_mode=0'' hack for PCI TI bridges (older versions of pcmcia-cs). Should have looked at the more recent release notes: (ain't hindsight wonderful!) The current version of PCMCIA-CS code on sourceforge is 3.1.31 (1st Jan 2002) Too recent for the 2.2.20 kernel.org kernel, even if it had been included... Not being PCMCIA orientated, I wasn't aware that this stuff is not a regular feature included with the kernel.org kernels. But - I expect to be futzing around with a Dell 2500 PCMCIA NIC "Real soon" - so thanks to all those that advised. Forewarned is forearmed... Here is a compendium of useful resources, found from: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=PCMCIA+Linux+Kernel+patch&btnG=Google+… Linux Kernel PCMCIA support resources; see: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/kernel/pcmcia/ ( Text Listing of contents follows ) pcmcia-cs-?.?.?.tar.gz PCMCIA Card Services for Linux. If there are several versions here, the latest may not be stable yet. CHANGES History of changes to pcmcia-cs package PCMCIA-HOWTO How to install and configure Linux PCMCIA support SUPPORTED.CARDS Listing of all cards supported by the current release. diffs/pc-?.?.?-?.?.?.diff.gz Patches for the PCMCIA package. These patches exclude some things in the doc subdirectory, because PostScript and dvi files are hard to patch efficiently. OLD/ Various past versions of the PCMCIA package. NEW/ Things that have not been thoroughly tested yet. doc/ Formatted (dvi and PostScript) versions of the PCMCIA-HOWTO and the Linux PCMCIA Programmer's Guide. contrib/ Drivers contributed by other people, which are not included with the core PCMCIA distribution. extras/ Extra packages that add functionality to the PCMCIA package. Currently, this directory contains the Forms Library (a GUI toolkit used by the PCMCIA control panel utility "cardinfo"). Other interesting links and information: Juan-Mariano de Goyeneche's Links to Key Documents for understanding the Kernel http://jungla.dit.upm.es/~jmseyas/linux/kernel/hackers-docs.html SWSUSP Suspend (no need of APM) and PCMCIA Warning / gcc version sensitivity http://falcon.sch.bme.hu/~seasons/linux/swsusp.html The PCMCIA-CS sourceforge direct links: http://sourceforge.net/projects/pcmcia-cs/ http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=2405&release_id=67945 http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=67945 ( Contents here as plain text ): Release Name: 3.1.31 Notes: This release has some fairly important bug fixes. Most important, if you run an SMP kernel, then the 3.1.28 and 3.1.29 releases were completely broken for you. This is fixed in 3.1.31, as is a bug that prevented PnP BIOS support from working with SMP kernels. This release should also no longer require the ``irq_mode=0'' hack for PCI card readers using TI CardBus bridges. Unfortunately, the hack is still required for Ricoh bridges because the interrupt tests done in the i82365 driver did not seem to always correctly deduce the right way to handle interrupts for these bridges. I've also added a few more sanity checks to the Configure script to catch more common errors. Changes: [01-Jan-02] Version 3.1.31 -- Changed cardmgr, cardctl to report their version info, not the version of the kernel PCMCIA drivers, on 2.4.* kernels. -- Changed i82365 module to always trust irq probe on TI bridges. -- Added tests to Configure script for 2.4 kernel debug options. -- Added 'realclean' target to top level Makefile. -- Added Nextcom NC5310B support to fmvj18x_cs, from Komuro. -- Added tests for 'gcc' and 'make', and sanity checks for module install directory, to the Configure script. -- Fixed CardBus CIS memory window management bug, from Rick Sulack. -- Fixed memory_cs driver to not oops when a block erase is attempted on a non-block-oriented memory card. -- Fixed HWADDR parsing in network script to be language independent. -- Fixed 'probe' to check alternate location for ISA card readers. -- Fixed bad SMP breakage introduced in 3.1.29 release. -- Fixed PnP BIOS support to work on SMP kernels. -=-=-=-=- Anyone care to contribute additional links to material they found to be useful when fixing up PCMCIA issues? --James

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penguin case
by John Seago 28 Jan '02

28 Jan '02

I am afraid that I have unfortunately forgotten the name of the person who was interested in this. A picture is available here:- http://www.colorcase.com/products/case/penguin/penguinbig.jpg and details here:- http://www.colorcase.com/products/case/penguin/penguin.html John Seago

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 28 Jan '02

28 Jan '02

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.openprojects.net in the #alug channel, you can take a look at www.openprojects.net to get more info on the openprojects network. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server uk.openprojects.net" or "/server eu.openprojects.net" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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Announce digest, Vol 1 #9 - 2 msgs
by announce-request＠lists.alug.org.uk 27 Jan '02

27 Jan '02

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Forwarded message about Sheffield Linux Seminar (markj(a)cloaked.freeserve.co.uk) 2. RMS talking in London, 12 Feb (MJ Ray) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: markj(a)cloaked.freeserve.co.uk To: announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 12:05:15 +0000 Subject: [Alug Announce] Forwarded message about Sheffield Linux Seminar Organization: Sheffield Linux User's Group Subject: Linux Seminar Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 10:05:45 +0000 Reply-To: Richard Ibbotson <richard(a)sheflug.co.uk> Hi Just a quick note to explain about our seminar in February. If you would like to know about Samba 2.3 then you might like to come along and ask Jeremy Allison some questions. You might also want to talk to Georg Greve who is the president of the European Free Software Foundation. For more info have a look at.... http://www.sheflug.co.uk/seminar.html There will also be several other speakers who can probably give you some interesting facts. Although the whole thing is free and lunch will be served you will need to use the online registration form so that we can understand how many people will be coming along for lunch..... http://www.clubukonline.co.uk/local-events/Linux/linux.html we find that for some reason just the Netscape browser refuses to look at this page but I'm fine with Opera, Konqueror and Mozilla. Thanks -- Richard www.sheflug.co.uk --__--__-- Message: 2 From: MJ Ray <markj(a)cloaked.freeserve.co.uk> To: announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 10:57:16 +0000 Subject: [Alug Announce] RMS talking in London, 12 Feb It looks as though I'll be there, as there's a possibly interesting (to me) conference in London that day. -- MJR Reply-To: Alex Hudson <home(a)alexhudson.com> To: FSFE-UK <fsfe-uk(a)gnu.org> Subject: [Fsfe-uk] [Fwd: [Gllug] Talk by Richard Stallman in London, 12 Feb] For those unaware, QMUL = Queen Mary, University of London, in the East end. I don't know if I'll be going yet - I'm going to try - if there are any fsfe-uk'ers going I might try harder ;) I know it's preaching to the converted, but hey. Alex. - -----Forwarded Message----- > Tuesday, 12 February at 7pm > Skeel lecture theatre, the people's palace > QMUL Mile End Campus > http://www.qmul.ac.uk/travel/mileend.shtml > > RICHARD STALLMAN, software hacker (in the "geek" sense), founder of the > Free Software Foundation and of the GNU Project, and principal author of > some of the most important GNU software, will briefly be in London in > February. We are fortunate enough to have him come to Queen Mary, > University of London, at short notice to give a public lecture on > "Copyright vs Community in the Age of Computer Networks". > > Stallman has a long-held belief that software should be free in the same > way that mathematical knowledge has traditionally been free--this is > manifested in the GNU General Public Licence (and friends) and "copyleft". > > In order that we may gauge numbers, if you wish to attend the lecture > please contact Sue White: suew/rms(a)dcs.qmul.ac.uk or 020 7882 5217. > > > Lecture Abstract: > > Copyright developed in the age of the printing press, and was designed > to fit with the system of centralized copying imposed by the printing > press. But the copyright system does not fit well with computer > networks, and only draconian punishments can enforce it. > > The global corporations that profit from copyright are lobbying > for draconian punishments, and to increase their copyright powers, > while suppressing public access to technology. But if we > seriously hope to serve the only legitimate purpose of > copyright--to promote progress, for the benefit of the > public--then what must be done is either to reduce copyright > powers or effectively eliminate them, depending on the kind of > work. Governments must now protect the public's right to copy. > > > Background URLs about the GNU project, "GNU/Linux" and free software: > > http://www.uk.gnu.org/ > http://www.uk.gnu.org/philosophy/philosophy.html > http://www.uk.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html > http://www.uk.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-for-freedom.html > http://www.uk.gnu.org/philosophy/free-doc.html > http://www.uk.gnu.org/licenses/licenses.html > http://www.uk.gnu.org/copyleft/copyleft.html > http://www.uk.gnu.org/gnu/manifesto.html > http://www.uk.gnu.org/gnu/thegnuproject.html > http://www.uk.gnu.org/gnu/linux-and-gnu.html > http://www.uk.gnu.org/gnu/why-gnu-linux.html > > Richard Stallman's personal web page: > > http://www.stallman.org/ - -- Gllug mailing list - Gllug(a)linux.co.uk http://list.ftech.net/mailman/listinfo/gllug ------- End of Forwarded Message -- MJR --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Announce mailing list Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce End of Announce Digest

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Re: [Alug] Debian rsync update has problems!
by MJ Ray 27 Jan '02

27 Jan '02

> A disturbing report about problems with the Debian rsync > security update http://lwn.net/daily/ ... But no details seen. Details are thin on the ground. Allegedly, there is data corruption involved, but there is no reference about that on the debian lists that I have spotted. If anyone feels like doing a test... > Anyone on the list know exactly what the problem with it is? > LWN is not a source prone to spreading FUD. LWN have just done exactly that by posting rumours without reference or an apparent reason for withholding such a reference. Extremely bad journalism. -- MJR

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