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Re: SuSE security and updates
by Joss Winn 25 Jun '01

25 Jun '01

> > Neill Newman wrote: > > > Aparently SuSE has something similar to up2date, but I don't know too > > much about it, any SuSE fans care to comment on th autoupdate features > > of Yast ?? > > Well, it seems to work well enough! Alan has used it, I've just watched > him really, but he ticks the boxes for the kinds of things he wants and > off it goes and does its thing. Simple as that, by all accounts... > > Jo Indeed, the SuSE YAST2 online update is as easy as it gets. You click on the update button, it tells you what updates are available and which of those it recommends for your system, you decide what you think you need and then click on a button for it to download and install. You can automate the whole procedure as much or as little as you like. A short while back, I decided to go through the security of my SuSE system and downloaded a SuSE hardening script, a firewall script and a security checker that checks my system for changes daily, weekly and monthly. It took 15 minutes to finish setting up everything. I thought the harden script would inconvenience me in some way but I haven't noticed it at all. Though when I look at files like /etc/hosts.deny, they are hardened versions with good security settings. For what it is worth, SuSE claim to have had the first dedicated security team on any linux dist. and the previous team leader who still works for SuSE has a decent page you can grab the latest stuff from. http://www.suse.com/~marc I'm sure all distributions are very security aware. Though I can only vouch for the convenience of SuSE. Joss -- http://www.josswinn.org

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(no subject)
by Tim Gowing 25 Jun '01

25 Jun '01

-- Regards Tim Gowing

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Problems with Mandrake, silly questions and the result.
by John Seago 25 Jun '01

25 Jun '01

I last wrote to the forum yesterday, I see that there is some problem with something, and it is still undelivered. The good news is that I have overcome the problem, not by finding the solution but by erasing Mandrake 8 from my Hard drive and installing Red Hat 7.1. Mandrake is promoted as a system suitable for beginners, I however found trying to get it to work so frustrating that I considered taking the easy route and buying a hardware upgrade to make Windows/Office 2000 work. Luckily I had made a mistake when ordering the CD's for my prospective son-in-law and myself and bought two sets of each. Having seen how easily his Red Hat went in I installed it in my computer, the installation was about a 1000% easier than Mandrake, (took less than 90 minutes, I've been trying toget Mandrake function for 8 days), it worked first time, connected to the Internet and the web, and is up and running, I do have one problem with the sound card drivers which are there but not functioning. This however is not a problem as I usually work with the sound muted under Windows anyway. John Seago

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Configuring network card (again)
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 25 Jun '01

25 Jun '01

Hello all, I have been given the following info from someone at LNO on trying to get a 3com NIC to work (one that was given to me by an alug member at the last meet, as it happens). Can anyone confirm this is indeed a good thing to do? I tried for a while to get a Dlink card working, then changed it for this 3com one, which I'm not having much success with either. "3c509 isa cards are PnP jumperless nic's - they were designed to work with winders PnP (work great out of the box for that) in linux, it no worky-worky. you have internet access from a winders pc? if yes, then download disk 2 from here (this link is kicking my butt!!) \http://www.3com.com/products/en_US/detail.jsp?tab=support&pathtype=support&sku=3C509B-COMBO and boot the pc with a dos/winders boot disk - run the PNPDSABL.BAT utility to turn off PnP, then run 3c5x9cfg.exe to set the irq and mem addy you want (i like 10/300 )- after this, you should be good to go" I duly downloaded the disk2, copied it to /tmp on the linux box, started to reboot the linux box with a 95 startup disk, then bottled out and plopped the disk out before it could boot, in a fit of underconfidence at my noncomprehension. The actual history behind the thread at LNO in the first place is here: http://www.linuxnewbie.org/cgi-bin/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=13… Thanks, Jenny

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Re: [Alug] Documentation, network cards and printers
by MJ Ray 25 Jun '01

25 Jun '01

David Freeman <david_freeman(a)rocketmail.com> writes: > Documentation: Does any one know of a javadoc equivilent for C? Is this "literate programming"? -- MJR

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Weekly IRC meeting reminder
by Adam Bower 25 Jun '01

25 Jun '01

This is the automated ALUG irc meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an irc meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.openprojects.net in the #alug channel, you can take a look at www.openprojects.net to get more info on the openprojects network. Popular irc clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and ircII on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.bitchx.com http://www.xchat.org http://freshmeat.net http://www.epicsol.org/ (for Brett!) Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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Re: [Alug] Problems with Mandrake, silly questions and the result.
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 25 Jun '01

25 Jun '01

John Seago writes: >Having seen how easily his Red Hat went in I installed it in my >computer, the installation was about a 1000% easier than...... Hey! Told ya! Everyone should listen to my wise and knowledgable advice ;-) Your two mails arrived together, John. Go and have a look in the rc.d scripts ( /etc/rc.d/)(I think) to see what happens when the computer is booting up, so if you get a nice red failed message again you can start to see where the problem is. If when booting, the log says "entering runlevel 6" (I think that is the default on Dead Rat) you want to look at rc6.d. This will show you which scripts are started up. >.....buying a hardware >upgrade to make Windows/Office 2000 work. You had a lucky escape then! Jenny.

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Re: [Alug] pppd problem
by MJ Ray 25 Jun '01

25 Jun '01

"A Glover" <Flexifoil(a)btinternet.com> writes: > After over a year away from Linux I decided to install it again, > unfortunatly Ive forgotten how to fix small problems. The current one > and im having no success finding an answer for is disconnecting straight > away with pppd. Distribution is Debian, using the script pon. Add "debug" to /etc/ppp/options and tell us what appears in /var/log/debug please. Thanks. (Remember to take the debug line out when you're done, unless you want to eat disk.) -- MJR

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Stupid question from John Seago
by John Seago 25 Jun '01

25 Jun '01

I have made a start on 'Running Linux', and have got to the passage which entreats beginners NOT to ask simple questions. The problem is whilst I can work the word processor etc., in windows, I don't know how to do much else, so I'm ignoring the sound advice and asking stupid questions, I have no doubt that there will be others. Having, by a combination of a faulty CD, a CD drive which didn't like the first disk of Mandrake 8 had to reinstall Mandrake 8 I have in the long list of script which scrolls down at the beginning 1 item marked [FAILED] in red. The item refers to the Kernel libraries, my question is: Is this Failed notice appearing because I didn't use the second disk, if so how do I put the contents of the second disk in please? John Seago

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Re: Microsoft is right Re: [Alug] Microsoft FUD
by MJ Ray 25 Jun '01

25 Jun '01

"Mark Wilkinson" <mark(a)wiggis.com> writes: > Whoops... Time for a list etiquette reminder: - put your reply at the bottom, not the top - trim irrelevant material (esp sigs) from the quote - no HTML email - no attachments, not even automatic ones -- MJR

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