On 06 Dec 13:29, Anthony Anson wrote:
BAH! Just hit 'send' innit!
Sorry Brett
Brett Parker wrote:
On 06 Dec 12:34, Anthony Anson wrote:
Steve Engledow wrote:
Id love a new Mac but cant afford it.
No you don't, that's just the conditioning talking ;)
*I'D* love a Mac too - there are things a Mac can do in its sleep that Linux and Windows make a banquet of.
Erm, such as?
Multitracking and layering music, and tweaking individual tracks for one.
That's not an operating system feature, that's a software feature. And I believe that audacity is capable of this.
Also, a lot of graphics software.
ITYM "A lot of commercial graphics software", and a lot of that is down to taste.
Remembering that a Mac is just a piece of hardware, and is x86 based...
ITF those are a bit passé now.
Assuming you mean x86 is passé, I'm using x86 to cover both ix86 and x86_64 architectures. If x86_64 has suddenly become passé it's news to me.
Do you mean "there are things available in OSX that are difficult in Linux and Windows", in which case, the usual one I hear about is "networking just works, it's lovely!" right up until they hit a network that OSX doesn't know much about, or it's having an off day, or the winds blowing in the wrong direction - at which point it's a complete PITA.
No. Never used a network apart from connecting to wifi.
And it's the wifi connecting that most mac users ooooh and aaaah over at me. Until it doesn't work.
I've got a slightly more complicated wireless setup on my laptop, but it does "just work", and is predicatable in what it's going to do.
If it's printing, then I'm afraid that OSX is actually just using cups, and an out of the box cups on a modern linux is Damned Good at "just working".
Nope -I'm quite content with the abilities of both Linux and Windows (of certain flavours)
And I shall have one, if I live long enough.
Yeah - cos you need to save for years to get the shiny machine, and then you get to consistently pay for OS upgrades because "oh, noes, this piece of software needs the latest version and I needs it, I needs it now!"
What I want it for is probably developed up to the hilt anyway, and like other OSs I rarely consider 'upgrades', mainly becaus they aren't...
So, you don't like security updates, then? Or ongoing security support? These are the bits that I don't like with non-free systems.
So I am looking for suggestions. It will run Ubuntu or Mint alongside Windows (for those times when you have to use Windows).
If you've had a mac for 11 years, what times do you face when need Windows? Go the whole hog, you'll love it :) Life without Gates, Jobs, or other corporate monsters with plural nouns for surnames is far shinier. In the REM sense.
<mode="McEnroe> You *CANNOT* be serious!
</mode> Name me one Linux program which can do what Irfanview does? Name me one Linux program which is as good as Paintshop Pro or Photoshop, and as intuitive?
Irfanview doesn't look far different to Eye of Gnome, actually.
I'll have a look.
And don't say "The Gimp" - IMO it's a pile of poo.
That's your opinion, and you're welcome to it. It's just as intuitive as either that you've listed (i.e. not at all). Personally I can find things a hell of a lot quicker in GIMP than in PSP or Photoshop, and I used to use PSP "rather a lot".
Which is why my notebook has its native Xandros, but my (bigger) flaptop has Debian as a main OS, but XP, so I can run proper graphics.
There's a difference between "proper graphics" and "what I know how to use". But meh.
I can't remember what it was I wanted to do in Gimp some time ago - I think it was some cloning from one pic to another, but I spent an afternoon trying to get it to do it, and failed. I threw together a load of bits: 400 MHz CPU, old m/board, old HDD, installed Win 2000 and PSP 4 and did that lot faster than sraping round Gimp.
That's just a case of using the clone tool, from what I remember. Infact, having just tested, yup... it's "click on source image whilst holding control with the clone tool selected", followed by clicking on the destination image where you want the cloned bit to go. The button is directly available in the toolbox too.
Something, many years ago, were complicated, yes. Gimp 2.6 is actually *really* rather good at doing what you'd expect.
Also, see inkscape, sketch, etc for vector stuff. Or Xara LX (non-free, but free to use).
If I get round to it - or a meeting where someone has them.
Cheers,
Bottoms up!
-- Tony Anson www.girolle.co.uk/
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